gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 http://www.shakesville.com/2007/12/explainer-what-is-nice-guy. I am so tired of hearing people complain about the nice guy thing... it really peeves me when a guy tells me; girls only go for the jerks excuse me, what? all the men who i have dated have treated me great and I find it insulting you would call the man I am dating a jerk
darkmoon Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 only a masochist loves a bastard/jerk = too unhealthy
Oxy Moronovich Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 only a masochist loves a bastard/jerk = too unhealthy The majority (or all?) of women are masochists.
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 The majority (or all?) of women are masochists. how stupid that sounds
darkmoon Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 over time, oldie me speaking, we grow tired of set-ups that fall short of friendship, bastards can look lovely but just lack respect
Oxy Moronovich Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 how stupid that sounds Women always think the truth sounds stupid.
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 Women always think the truth sounds stupid. I assume by you're attitude, the women you attract are probably stupid masochists your own fault
phineas Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 well, if they were all so great, why are there so many of them? I mean, I only break up with women who treat me bad.
Necris Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 Hold up. Isn't it true that women in general love to be dominated? They may not say this but upon observing their interactions with males it appears that they prefer for a man to be dominant and sometimes dominate them, but generally not to the point of abuse. But this all goes to the "nice guy" "bad boy" thing where alot of women while they say they want a "nice guy" actually usually always go for the so-called "bad boy". The "bad boy" is capable of attracting women because of his display of dominance which seems to activate a primal instinct within women to perceive him as a higher value mate. 1
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 It is really amusing to me how quickly women will immediately jump up on their high horse to cut the throat of another women because of differing opinions. How about a cogent argument from a women without calling names, placing labels or casting aspersions towards other women. You are your own worst enemy. And by the way, nice guys do finish last. Agree or disagree, but it's true. where are women calling each other names? what does that have to do with anything
Woggle Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 The fact of the matter though is that some women really do seem to gravitate towards men that mistreat them. Look at how many women have a thing for guys like Chris Brown. Rihanna is rich and can have any man she wants yet she is fixated on him.
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 Hold up. Isn't it true that women in general love to be dominated? They may not say this but upon observing their interactions with males it appears that they prefer for a man to be dominant and sometimes dominate them, but generally not to the point of abuse. But this all goes to the "nice guy" "bad boy" thing where alot of women while they say they want a "nice guy" actually usually always go for the so-called "bad boy". The "bad boy" is capable of attracting women because of his display of dominance which seems to activate a primal instinct within women to perceive him as a higher value mate. i agree to a point... being a dominant male doesn't mean you're a `bad guy'
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 The fact of the matter though is that some women really do seem to gravitate towards men that mistreat them. Look at how many women have a thing for guys like Chris Brown. Rihanna is rich and can have any man she wants yet she is fixated on him. ya it does happen, I just hate being generalized also the fact that a lot of the time these `nice guys' aren't as amazing as they think they are (i love how the link describes it)
Woggle Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 ya it does happen, I just hate being generalized also the fact that a lot of the time these `nice guys' aren't as amazing as they think they are (i love how the link describes it) Of course not all women are this way but enough men have dealt with this to know that it is not some rare occurrence.
Imported Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 I've hated the never ending claim, "nice guys always finish last" for a long time now. It is not that nice guys finish last, it is guys that finish last like to think they are "nice" and that them being "nice" was the problem. Nevermind anything else that is most likely the problem and that them pretending to be "nice" is for their own gain. You are pretending and it's fake. You reek of fake nicenes. I don't think of myself as a nice guy. I can actually be an ******* to people I don't like pretty easily, but I know a few nice guys. Actual nice guys, not the fake wanna-be losers claiming their problems are because they are too "nice". That really is laughable that they actually think that. If you were actually nice, you wouldn't think being nice was a problem because you wouldn't be going out of your way to be nice expecting anything in return. Actualy nice guys don't go out of their way to be nice, they just are nice and they don't do it expecting anything, that's just how they are. If you're complaining and blaming your failures on you being too "nice", better take a long hard look at yourself, because that isn't the problem. 3
Author gotye Posted April 8, 2012 Author Posted April 8, 2012 Of course not all women are this way but enough men have dealt with this to know that it is not some rare occurrence. i think for the most part lot of guys should just move on instead of being so angry and bitter about it I am a female and guys have rejected me and were interested in girls who had like no personality and i didnt complain about how guys just want stupid, bland girls maybe it has something to do with confidence, dunno, all I know is if a guy rejects me I can easily attract another guy who will be more than happy to be my companion.
prune juice Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 It is really amusing to me how quickly women will immediately jump up on their high horse to cut the throat of another women because of differing opinions. How about a cogent argument from a women without calling names, placing labels or casting aspersions towards other women. You are your own worst enemy. And by the way, nice guys do finish last. Agree or disagree, but it's true. it is and treating gals nicely is a losing proposition almost every time if you want more than friendship. 1
prune juice Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 I've hated the never ending claim, "nice guys always finish last" for a long time now. It is not that nice guys finish last, it is guys that finish last like to think they are "nice" and that them being "nice" was the problem. Nevermind anything else that is most likely the problem and that them pretending to be "nice" is for their own gain. You are pretending and it's fake. You reek of fake nicenes. I don't think of myself as a nice guy. I can actually be an ******* to people I don't like pretty easily, but I know a few nice guys. Actual nice guys, not the fake wanna-be losers claiming their problems are because they are too "nice". That really is laughable that they actually think that. If you were actually nice, you wouldn't think being nice was a problem because you wouldn't be going out of your way to be nice expecting anything in return. Actualy nice guys don't go out of their way to be nice, they just are nice and they don't do it expecting anything, that's just how they are. If you're complaining and blaming your failures on you being too "nice", better take a long hard look at yourself, because that isn't the problem. theres a whole bushel of truth to it. it isn't some made up claim. it isn't not nice guys pretending they are nice that finish last. i wised up. i couldn't believe that the less i treated gals like a human the better i did. a guy needs sex.
prune juice Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 i think for the most part lot of guys should just move on instead of being so angry and bitter about it I am a female and guys have rejected me and were interested in girls who had like no personality and i didnt complain about how guys just want stupid, bland girls maybe it has something to do with confidence, dunno, all I know is if a guy rejects me I can easily attract another guy who will be more than happy to be my companion. nice guys do move on and on and on. but when they wake up one day as a 30 year old who's barely experinced a relationship what do ya expect? bitterness builds up and it's almost always from no real success with women over an extended period of time. 1
phineas Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 it is and treating gals nicely is a losing proposition almost every time if you want more than friendship. nice guy to me = creep/chump who does things for a girl under the guise of friendship hoping she'll eventually want to sleep with him. These guys come here homesteaded into the friendzone & just refuse to admit it & think doing more stuff for her will work. LOL! what I figured out is It's not treating them nice that is the problem. It's treating them nice before they have earned it. It's playing their games, chasing them, doing things for them before their even your GF, & giving them free passes when their disrespectful. This is a surefire one-way ticket to the friendzone. If a woman pushes, you push back. If she flakes on you or does something disrespectful you freeze her out until she apologizes. She doesn't apologize? then she really wasn't all that into you & you should consider yourself having dodged a bullet. Though i've had women come back months later thinking it's water under the bridge & we can just pick up where we left off. ROTFLMAO! errr, no? So on one side of the coin you have the "nice guy" who tries to creep his way into a woman's pants & get frustrated because he's getting nowhere & on the other you have the Basket cases who only date bad boys & get frustrated because they can't keep a man for more than a yr. They don't feel used for sex however (I don't know why) maybe because these same women will use a nice guy for favors? 2
prune juice Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 nice guy to me = creep/chump who does things for a girl under the guise of friendship hoping she'll eventually want to sleep with him. These guys come here homesteaded into the friendzone & just refuse to admit it & think doing more stuff for her will work. LOL! what I figured out is It's not treating them nice that is the problem. It's treating them nice before they have earned it. It's playing their games, chasing them, doing things for them before their even your GF, & giving them free passes when their disrespectful. This is a surefire one-way ticket to the friendzone. If a woman pushes, you push back. If she flakes on you or does something disrespectful you freeze her out until she apologizes. She doesn't apologize? then she really wasn't all that into you & you should consider yourself having dodged a bullet. Though i've had women come back months later thinking it's water under the bridge & we can just pick up where we left off. ROTFLMAO! errr, no? So on one side of the coin you have the "nice guy" who tries to creep his way into a woman's pants & get frustrated because he's getting nowhere & on the other you have the Basket cases who only date bad boys & get frustrated because they can't keep a man for more than a yr. They don't feel used for sex however (I don't know why) maybe because these same women will use a nice guy for favors? some of these guys hear the friends first mantra over and over and over from women and believe it with all their heart and others use the niceness as a ploy. guess what? the gals often can't tell them apart and they often falsely assume it is a ploy
Pyro Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 one thing to note is that there are quite a few guys on here who believe that treating a girl like crap is the best way to go and they claim that they have such great success with women. If they are so great at it then why are they here? 2
SteveC80 Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 Simply being nice is not attratcive if youre an ugly dude u can be gandhi like its not gonna make women attracted to you over the good looking dude
Frank13 Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 excuse me, what? all the men who i have dated have treated me great and I find it insulting you would call the man I am dating a jerk If they were all so great why aren't you with them? You just proved the point. You went from nice guy to nice guy. Had any of them been bad boys you wouldn't have so many nice guys in your dating history.
Frank13 Posted April 8, 2012 Posted April 8, 2012 (edited) Go over to the "Coping" forum and read the threat "Post here instead of contacting your ex". Many, many of the posts have to do with women pining for a guy who treated them like crap. You will be hard pressed to find any that say "You treated me great and I miss you". The reason for that is that if a guy treats a woman well she dumps him. Nice guys are boring. 99% of guys are nice guys. Woman want to feel alive. Being treated negatively makes women feel more alive than boredom. I hate to keep saying it, but from the book "The Art of Seduction" - "Wounding people binds them to you more deeply than kindness". Women say they want a nice guy. They just don't realize how boring and predictable they are once they get one. Edited April 8, 2012 by Frank13 1
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