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Sometimes I really do wonder. These guys who manipulate women on a daily basis. It just seems like girls just naively fall for everything these guys say or do. I know over time they become master manipulators however when a girl knows a guy is a player and knows he cannot be trusted yet still falls for his words and games...they have to be doing it on purpose right?

 

I know it is all in the challenge and that is what women like to try and overcome. but why repeatedly fall for a guy who just uses women. They know the players use other women and yet they still pursue the hell out of him.

 

So do girls play dumb on purpose? Or just let guys manipulate them to try and stop the manipulation and be the one to change them?

 

Sorry I don't even know what I am asking I guess. haha. Women are just confusing and I get sick of manipulative *******s playing a bunch of women and running them over like buses time and time again and other women thinking the guys are still sooo awesome and they just have to try too and it all repeats over and over.

 

Hate this cycle.

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Hmmmm....I don't know.

 

Some women are naive/idealistic.

Some women like a challenge/project and believe that they can change a guy.

Some women mix their hormones/lust up with their common sense.

 

I think most people have a gut instinct when someone is bad for them, but that can be mixed up with lust/positivity/hope/seeing the best in people, and sometimes it's ignored.

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The guy who likes sex and having fun with women will always do better at getting those things than the guy afraid to hurt peoples feelings.

 

Does that make sense.

 

It makes sense I guess

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Hmmmm....I don't know.

 

Some women are naive/idealistic.

Some women like a challenge/project and believe that they can change a guy.

Some women mix their hormones/lust up with their common sense.

 

I think most people have a gut instinct when someone is bad for them, but that can be mixed up with lust/positivity/hope/seeing the best in people, and sometimes it's ignored.

 

Are any women logical when it comes to guys instead of emotionally challenged?

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I try to be. But when my mind, body and soul want him, my brain gets overruled.

 

As far as I know though, I'm not being manipulated. My current relationship is probably one of the most honest and open that I've been in. Ever. When you're in an LDR, all you really have is communication. And if you don't communicate well, it all falls down pretty quickly.

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Your question in escense is asking why does a guy who gets lots of girls get lots of girls... well because he's attractive to them and obviously that is the real thing at play here. Girls don't date a guy no matter how safe a bet unless they are attracted.

 

So in the end sexual attraction manipulates us all into doing things that while against our own nature and well being perpetuates the survival of the species. This gets very complicated with people since we have artificialy removed ourselves from nature with our constructs. Still attraction is at play.

 

A guy shouldn't want to fck a girl to make her a better person. He should want to do it because he's horny.

 

Well obviously. My problem isnt with all the ****ing. It is with girls ****ing a guy who they know has other girls on the side. Why not just have a big old orgy then. In stead of falling for his hollow words.

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Well obviously. My problem isnt with all the ****ing. It is with girls ****ing a guy who they know has other girls on the side. Why not just have a big old orgy then. In stead of falling for his hollow words.

 

Coz....being get horny. That's the truth of the matter isn't it? Maybe they really fancy the guy. They know in the long run they'll get hurt, but in the short term they are caught up in an infatuation. We're all guilty of it one way or another i.e. eating that donut :p

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Sorry, when I wrote, "I try to be," I meant that I try to be logical.

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Wish I had model looks so I could be the donut. Sigh.

 

Guess women just have no resistance is the answer then.

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I try to be. But when my mind, body and soul want him, my brain gets overruled.

 

As far as I know though, I'm not being manipulated. My current relationship is probably one of the most honest and open that I've been in. Ever. When you're in an LDR, all you really have is communication. And if you don't communicate well, it all falls down pretty quickly.

 

I can understand that.

 

However should temptation really be stronger than the brain when you know you will just get hurt?

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Wish I had model looks so I could be the donut. Sigh.

 

Guess women just have no resistance is the answer then.

 

Trust me - you will be the donut to some girl :)

 

And lots of girls do show resistance, but we are all people and we all have unmet needs, wants and urges and sometimes we indulge them.

 

It's an eternal problem isn't it? Getting the balance right between what we want now and what we need long term.

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I can understand that.

 

However should temptation really be stronger than the brain when you know you will just get hurt?

 

I would say...yes...it can be.

 

Otherwise spouses wouldn't cheat on their partners.

There would be no infidelity, no flirting, no risk, no danger, no adventure.

No-one would eat fatty foods or drink alcohol or smoke a cigarette or take drugs.

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Trust me - you will be the donut to some girl :)

 

And lots of girls do show resistance, but we are all people and we all have unmet needs, wants and urges and sometimes we indulge them.

 

It's an eternal problem isn't it? Getting the balance right between what we want now and what we need long term.

 

Well I'm a donut being tossed away by a girl at the moment. Oy.

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Well I'm a donut being tossed away by a girl at the moment. Oy.

 

It's okay - I think we all get dumped along the road. She might get fined for littering :p

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Are any women logical when it comes to guys instead of emotionally challenged?

 

Are you really frustrated with the women or are you frustrated that you don't earn any points for NOT being one who manipulates women? For me, THAT's been the tough pill to swallow.

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I can understand that.

 

However should temptation really be stronger than the brain when you know you will just get hurt?

 

No matter how logical or cerebral I try to be, I cannot escape the fact that I am on occasion ruled entirely by my emotions. Even if the choices that I make during those times are detrimental to my mental health in the short-term.

 

But with time and experience = wisdom. If faced with similar situations, I would hope that I would make the right choices for my short and long-term happiness. However, one can't help but succumb to 'f_ _ _ it' moments. Some of these have not been wise but nearly all of them have given me great adventures. I know that hand on heart, I can say that I've not lead a boring life though I've played it safe most of the time, I think.

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Are you really frustrated with the women or are you frustrated that you don't earn any points for NOT being one who manipulates women? For me, THAT's been the tough pill to swallow.

 

YES!

I think I am just jealous honestly.

That I like to be an open book but guys who will manipulate even if many people get hurt are so adored by women. This includes my soon to be ex falling for some player playa.

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I understand totally. One silver lining is that you now know about a major red flag to be aware of in the future -- being easily swayed by superficial attention from players.

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Yeah that is true man

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So, is your girlfriend actually beginning to talk to this player guy more after that rating post? Or is this simply your jealousy beginning to take over more and more?

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I just tricked a girl into sex by telling her I was casting her in a photoshoot. She is a model, and I told her she needed to sleep with me if she wanted in.

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So, is your girlfriend actually beginning to talk to this player guy more after that rating post? Or is this simply your jealousy beginning to take over more and more?

 

Well I never brought that up but we talked about her distance over the last month and she admitted that she thinks we should take a break.

 

As for him. The two do not work together but the places they were are next to each other and I have the worst gut feeling that there is something going on. They have mutual friends so they have hung out while with other friends lately.

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Yeah, that's...probably not good. Your gut feeling is likely on point. Hopefully it's not, of course.

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I guess time will tell.

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just cos you're dating an immature cunt doesn't mean all women fall for silly games.

 

 

Are all men lame ass doormats just cos you are?

 

 

All the 'quality women' decided we don't need men, sorry your left with the trash that remains.

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