Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Again, if the practical reality is only 10 people on Earth find you attractive, yeah, sure, it means SOMEone does, but is that really useful? 10? Really, when it comes to love, you only need one .
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Because I am attracted to a girl with unsymetrical teeth, and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. Without knowing her history, based on observation and life experience, I'd suspect her teeth have caused her much anguish with guys in the past. Or maybe others have been easily smitten REGUARDLESS just like me. Maybe it seems like there maybe only 2 in the country that attracted to someone, but consider this: generally, one will seek companionship WITHIN THE TOWN THEY RESIDE IN. The net can change that a little, but generally, locally we look. There could be TWO in that town. Now multiply that by the number of towns you COULD live in, if you moved or simply lived elsewhere. Now, you are talking literally thousands that could exist.... two in each and every town. Plenty of possible attractants. Yeah, you can't live everywhere at once, but you don't know that maybe those two are in your town right now. This kind of goes along with my "Scale" theory though. Yeah she has weird teeth, but I bet otherwise she's gorgeous. So let's say on a sliding scale, she's 90 out of 100; she'll attract 9 out of every 10 guys. But let's say in addition to weird teeth, she also had a bulbous nose, fat body, and acne. Now she's more 40/50 out of 100; so 4 out of every 10 guys. There are just some characteristics that are more attractive than others, and the less of those you have, the less people find you attractive. Who the heck is gonna be able to live in hundreds of towns?? Finding work and moving is expensive and time-consuming enough! That's just not realistic. Heck, I live in a city and I can't find a single guy within 50 miles who finds me attractive... I sincerely doubt my luck would increase in an even smaller town.
ascendotum Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I don't care WHO you are, everyone is different when it comes to attraction. A gal I think is attractive, my friends might be repelled by them. And gals they've liked did nothing for me. She may not be a "10" or be perfect shape or whatever and none of that matters if the ATTRACTION simply exists. I disagree, some are different, but most people pretty much like the same stuff. Someone's 10 might not be someone else's 10, but they are not going to be a 3 or 4 to them. There are certain traits that really appeal to me in terms of me getting mesmerised over a woman, that my single freinds are not going to be wowed by, but there is a good chance they are still going to find the woman reasonably attractive, but they are just not going to be starstruck over her. Its been pretty rare for a girl that my friends found attractive that 'repelled' me. The less attractive the girl or guy, the less options they had, and could well as likely have adjusted their perspective on what they find attractive, so as to find a partner. I can say, I found all my good looking mates, gfs attractive, but not so much my less attractive mate's gfs. Here I am describing my mates as attractive or not....and thats based on how hard it was for them to get a woman. Some of my friends when single, going out on a Fri + Sat night, getting laid was a given, week in week out, for others it was multiple years between girls. Attraction is not random or equally diverse. Look at the women on magazine covers, there are not too many where you will say, 'what were they thinking there!'. Only a few might have you going OMG, but none of them are going to have you or the vast majority of M+F 'repelled' by them. In the end, it doesn't matter how you look or if you measure up to the world's cookie cutter ideas of attraction, there are still plenty of people that will be attracted to you. I agree to a point. Depends how many are single in your age bracket and where you live, and what other options are around for the people you are attracted to. PJkino posted how all the women in his social group throw themselves at his friend. In one of my social groups its basically a simliar story, the majority of the women (and their friends that have come out with us on ocassions) have had sex (ons, flings, fwbs) with the 2 best looking guys in the group at various times over the past 3yrs. They arent doing equal opportunity sex for all the other guys in the group.
mesmerized Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Different or not, it's been proven to me that most guys prefer blonds to brunettes even if they say otherwise.
Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Different or not, it's been proven to me that most guys prefer blonds to brunettes even if they say otherwise. And yet, brunettes continue to get married and procreate. It's a mystery how they do it. 1
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 And yet, brunettes continue to get married and procreate. It's a mystery how they do it. All the blondes are taken or undesirable in some other way. I am slowly coming to terms with the fact that if I ever do end up in a relationship, it'll be cause the guy settled for me, cause there was no one else. Sometimes there really is no hope for the unattractive.
Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 All the blondes are taken or undesirable in some other way. So you're saying all the men who proclaimed they loved me lied? That's a new take on my love life. Clearly, the right interpretation is that some guys find brunettes attractive. (Or hair color isn't the main thing that will determine who they find attractive).
mesmerized Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 And yet, brunettes continue to get married and procreate. It's a mystery how they do it. Lol, OBVIOUSLY! because there are way more brunettes in the world than blonds. Most men would end up empty handed if blonds are their only preference. I just see a lot of girls who are not even that pretty but get so much attention just because of being blond. I have no doubt they wouldn't get nearly as much if they were brunettes.
Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Lol, OBVIOUSLY! because there are way more brunettes in the world than blonds. Most men would end up empty handed if blonds are their only preference. I just see a lot of girls who are not even that pretty but get so much attention just because of being blond. I have no doubt they wouldn't get nearly as much if they were brunettes. See above.
Anela Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Especially if they're 5'9"! Long legs and a round ass = boing! Us shorties can have long legs, too. I think that's why everyone expected me to grow taller than I am. With the "boing", you've just reminded me of something I need to look up. An old joke.
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 So you're saying all the men who proclaimed they loved me lied? That's a new take on my love life. Clearly, the right interpretation is that some guys find brunettes attractive. (Or hair color isn't the main thing that will determine who they find attractive). Well did ya read my "sliding scale" theory? That the further away from ideal the woman is, the less desirable. So you can have brunette hair () but if you have lots of other desirable traits, congrats, you're still attractive. If you have no desirable traits, or very few, on the other hand, you are unattractive. 1
Feelin Frisky Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 We should all get not just a birth certificate but a certificate of uniqueness. We really shouldn't have to because nature writes it right on our faces that no tow people are the same, but things like "creationism" and industrialization make for messages of "sameness" and relative uniformity when in truth, we are unique and should be reforming institutions to embrace and unleash that. That's what Jesus would do b/t/w--stand up, blow the whistle and tell the world it's wrong just like he did last time. Maybe this time there won't be the nails and cross. It's worth finding out because we have some serious problems with institutions that turn out very under-developed and under-facilitated individuals whom are much more capable than the trappings of their schools and TV shows tell them. Parents are products of the same crap and don't know that putting their kids through the same meat grinder is going to turn them into limited shlubbs just like them who watch "The Long Island Psychic" while their country teters on free fall. I'll have my green beans blanched and chilled with some vinegar, oil, garlic and fesh basil thanks.
ThaWholigan Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I so agree with this post I've been attracted to some women that normally I would be like "ugh", but for some reason I was feeling them . There is no universal ideal, it's a myth that people buy into at their own expense or stupidity. No offense, but I just don't subscribe..... Edited April 4, 2012 by ThaWholigan
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I so agree with this post I've been attracted to some women that normally I would be like "ugh", but for some reason I was feeling them . There is no universal ideal, it's a myth that people by into at their own expense or stupidity. No offense, but I just don't subscribe..... Not universal, no, but there is a cultural one. And you can say that there are traits that most people find attractive, and traits most people find unattractive. Doesn't the numerous "ugh a FATTIE, gross" threads support this?... that most people don't find overweight people attractive? If attractiveness isn't tied to a universal ideal, then why is this such a common preference?
xxoo Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I'm with you, OP. Tastes really do vary. Some like dark hair, some like blonde. More may like blondes in our culture, but plenty genuinely prefer dark. Some like button noses, and some like strong noses. There is no one that is considered universally beautiful. Culture plays a significant role, and people in some cultures may find the greatest western beauties unattractive because we don't have rings around our necks, face tattoos, or haven't removed our front teeth in the name of beauty (I personally find surgically implanting bags of saline equally odd). But let's say in addition to weird teeth, she also had a bulbous nose, fat body, and acne. Now she's more 40/50 out of 100; so 4 out of every 10 guys. This is why I question the "symmetry" theory. What if she had symmetrically buck teeth, bulbous nose, fat body, and acne? (imagine symmetrical acne )
Cracker Jack Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 It definitely is. My attraction radar, while being similar to a few of my friends on certain women, can also be vastly different. I lost count of the amount of women I found sexy who were considered "regular" or "unattractive" to my friends or people I knew. I'm actually glad. Most of the women I've seen guys go weak at the knees for were nothing special to me. Oh, and I see V is still continuing on with her typical "I'm so unattractive" tirade. Give it a rest.
somedude81 Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Well did ya read my "sliding scale" theory? That the further away from ideal the woman is, the less desirable. So you can have brunette hair () but if you have lots of other desirable traits, congrats, you're still attractive. If you have no desirable traits, or very few, on the other hand, you are unattractive. And some traits have more of a positive or negative affect depending on what they are. For me, I see blonde hair as a +1. Big boobs can be up to a +5. That's because some traits are on a scale themselves. Like one shade of blonde hair isn't better than another it's still blonde. But boobs can keep increasing till the appreciateable max, then they start losing points. Basically, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, then starts counting down 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. And it's possible to get into the negatives for being too big or too small. The same thing can apply to mens bodies as well. Generally the taller a man is, the more points he gets for height, until he hits a point where people may think he's too tall and points start going down.
ThaWholigan Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Not universal, no, but there is a cultural one. And you can say that there are traits that most people find attractive, and traits most people find unattractive. Doesn't the numerous "ugh a FATTIE, gross" threads support this?... that most people don't find overweight people attractive? If attractiveness isn't tied to a universal ideal, then why is this such a common preference? I think there are many cultural ones, but even they tend to vary a great deal. People will talk **** about fat girls, yes. However, nearly every fat girl/woman I know gets ****ed regularly by their boyfriends . So obviously, somebody likes them. Hell, I'd date a fat girl, I see quite a few big girls I would give a good stiff one to before you can say super size. 1
Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Not universal, no, but there is a cultural one. And you can say that there are traits that most people find attractive, and traits most people find unattractive. Doesn't the numerous "ugh a FATTIE, gross" threads support this?... that most people don't find overweight people attractive? If attractiveness isn't tied to a universal ideal, then why is this such a common preference? I recommend you spend less time paying attention to what people say in threads, and more attention to what people around you are actually doing. Do your theories bare out? Please keep yourself out of the equation, so as to be more objective.
Kamille Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 And some traits have more of a positive or negative affect depending on what they are. For me, I see blonde hair as a +1. Big boobs can be up to a +5. That's because some traits are on a scale themselves. Like one shade of blonde hair isn't better than another it's still blonde. But boobs can keep increasing till the appreciateable max, then they start losing points. Basically, 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, then starts counting down 4, 3, 2, 1, 0. And it's possible to get into the negatives for being too big or too small. The same thing can apply to mens bodies as well. Generally the taller a man is, the more points he gets for height, until he hits a point where people may think he's too tall and points start going down. See above advice, replace expression "say in threads" by "look like in porn".
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Oh, and I see V is still continuing on with her typical "I'm so unattractive" tirade. Give it a rest. Why shouldn't I continue? Should I just shut up about being unattractive so everyone can go around and pat themselves on the back about how "diverse" and positive they are? Maybe the reason people in this thread think ugly people don't exist is because you never hear from them. Or are ugly people supposed to just shut up about their situation? 1
Ross MwcFan Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I don't care WHO you are, everyone is different when it comes to attraction. A gal I think is attractive, my friends might be repelled by them. And gals they've liked did nothing for me. Sometimes I just see something in her eyes. She may not be a "10" or be perfect shape or whatever and none of that matters if the ATTRACTION simply exists. Many people like green beans. Green beans taste like skunk expulsion to me. TO ME. Goes to prove EVERYONE can have different things that are ATTRACTIVE, or different tastes. In the end, it doesn't matter how you look or if you measure up to the world's cookie cutter ideas of attraction, there are still plenty of people that will be attracted to you. But I don't know if the green beans are attracted back to the people that like them. Where are they?
tman666 Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Or are ugly people supposed to just shut up about their situation? Why not try to change such a situation? If I am unhappy with my situation, and yet I do nothing to try and change it, complaining about it just makes me, well... a complainer.
verhrzn Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Why not try to change such a situation? If I am unhappy with my situation, and yet I do nothing to try and change it, complaining about it just makes me, well... a complainer. You can't make people attracted to you. They are either or they aren't. But that doesn't mean I have to sit back and listen to yet another Rainbows-and-Unicorns message that "everyone is beautiful!" Some people aren't, and it sucks when we're told we just "don't get it." It denies our experience, and it denies our pain. 1
ThaWholigan Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Maybe the reason people in this thread think ugly people don't exist is because you never hear from them. Or are ugly people supposed to just shut up about their situation? Ugly people are probably with their SO's getting laid . That sounds mean now that I've typed it out......
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