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xxoo Established Member

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My hair is already curly...they were telling me I should change my curl pattern.:rolleyes:

 

Maybe she is just naturally gorgeous or maybe she is happy with whatever male attention she can get, I don't know or maybe your area is different. I want and go after attractive men. I can get the nerdy guys who can't get a girl for their lives anytime I want. For attractive men, there is more competition and being low maintenance apparently doesn't cut it.

 

The man she married had a 6-pack :p But we are the outdoorsy type, not the gym type.

 

My H chimes in to say that she is well above average in prettiness. But FS claims to be, as well!

mesmerized Established Member

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Of course men care about how a woman looks but we don't care about brands or how much clothes cost and we certainly don't care about hand bags.

 

DUH! expensive cloth usually look much better than cheap ones!

 

Some guys can indeed be extremely discriminating in this regard, I admit. It's not too common, but I see it. I've personally never been too bothered, whatever is hot to me just is.

 

 

 

Do you. I'd imagine you'll bump into an attractive guy who doesn't care. Or do you live in a town where every type of person is the same? :laugh:

 

I've never been more glad that I live in London :D

 

I would love to bump into a guy who doesn't care! If you know one, send him my way. I don't know many!

Woggle Established Member

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DUH! expensive cloth usually look much better than cheap ones!

 

 

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Not always true. I used to know women that could look gorgeous with what they bought at the thrift store. A woman does not need a thousand dollar hand bag to look good.

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gibson Established Member

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I can get the nerdy guys who can't get a girl for their lives anytime I want. For attractive men, there is more competition and being low maintenance apparently doesn't cut it.

 

Okay... so now what?

 

Are you going with the nerdy guy who is only with you out of desperation or did you decided to put in the same amount of effort, energy and time that an attractive man does when he cares about his appearance, how he presents himself and putting his best foot forward?

 

I'm curious...

xxoo Established Member

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I want and go after attractive men. I can get the nerdy guys who can't get a girl for their lives anytime I want. For attractive men, there is more competition and being low maintenance apparently doesn't cut it.

 

But without the maintenance, you describe yourself as "cute girl" and not a "hottie".

 

What happens when the trappings come off, and it is just you and the guy? Does he lose attraction?

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FrustratedStandards Established Member

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But without the maintenance, you describe yourself as "cute girl" and not a "hottie".

 

What happens when the trappings come off, and it is just you and the guy? Does he lose attraction?

 

Cute is better than hot.

 

Hot, as all men on this forum have said, equates to one time sex.

 

Cute, however, is girlfriend material. So it's good that she is cute without the makeup and all.

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But without the maintenance, you describe yourself as "cute girl" and not a "hottie".

 

What happens when the trappings come off, and it is just you and the guy? Does he lose attraction?

 

Not that I know of, they haven't told me if they did. And it seems like guys tend to think I don't look that different with or without makeup and that I don't put much on whereas I think I do lol Or maybe after they get to know me as a person, the maintainance matters less than the initial stages of dating. They do however get excited when I get dolled up still, so apparently dressing up occasionally works for keeping their interest. Perhaps they would dump me if I became completely low maintenance. And I kinda have a nice body so my body alone is hot to a lot of guys. For that I don't need to do a lot of maintainance, just have to show it off with right clothing :p

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xxoo Established Member

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Cute is better than hot.

 

Hot, as all men on this forum have said, equates to one time sex.

 

Cute, however, is girlfriend material. So it's good that she is cute without the makeup and all.

 

Then we've come full circle. The 100s of dollars on makeup and clothing is unnecessary. Cute is easy-peasy, and cheap.

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And I kinda have a nice body so my body alone is hot to a lot of guys. For that I don't need to do a lot of maintainance, just have to show it off with right clothing :p

 

I may be a long time out of the dating game, but that part hasn't changed! :laugh:

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mesmerized Established Member

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I may be a long time out of the dating game, but that part hasn't changed! :laugh:

 

haha true. Still have to combine it with a nice face tho and a hot face with some earrings is better than a cute smiling face with unshaped eyebrows in my experience!

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Then we've come full circle. The 100s of dollars on makeup and clothing is unnecessary. Cute is easy-peasy, and cheap.

 

I agree. However, there seem to be a growing number of men who require much of these things in women. Those guys make me laugh :laugh:

 

Not that I know of, they haven't told me if they did. And it seems like guys tend to think I don't look that different with or without makeup and that I don't put much on whereas I think I do lol Or maybe after they get to know me as a person, the maintainance matters less than the initial stages of dating. They do however get excited when I get dolled up still, so apparently dressing up occasionally works for keeping their interest. Perhaps they would dump me if I became completely low maintenance. And I kinda have a nice body so my body alone is hot to a lot of guys. For that I don't need to do a lot of maintainance, just have to show it off with right clothing :p

 

Yes, we do appreciate a great body :cool:. I take it you live in US, do the guys in your state tend to prioritize these things a lot? I can't really imagine too many guys that do where I live, although they are definitely about. Usually, they are like that because they themselves take meticulous care of their appearance.

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If im going out with a women i know i have no problem paying or spoling her at times..But in the begining before i know a women when were both getting to know each other i think it should be 50/50

 

The courting process the op and some others want is where basically the man has to prove himself to the women and not vice versa..

 

The Man is suppose to have blind faith that this is a good women he can trust and is worthy of being paid for and spoiled without knowing her..

 

Why shouldnt both partners have to prove their worth?

 

How do i know the women isnt crazy or a goldigger or using me for a few dinners?

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Yes, we do appreciate a great body :cool:. I take it you live in US, do the guys in your state tend to prioritize these things a lot? I can't really imagine too many guys that do where I live, although they are definitely about. Usually, they are like that because they themselves take meticulous care of their appearance.

 

They do, you can't believe the comments I get from some men here sometimes. But lets say if I go to a bar, I get way more attention looking like a "hottie" than looking like a "cutie".

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My problem is they are never good looking. OR they are too westernized.

 

Or both.

 

My advice is this...

 

Create a thread and describe the type of guy you are looking for and if there is a particular "culture" you are looking for, be sure to share that too.

 

There are plenty of people (guys and girls) on LS that are like you or know people like you and will have some great ideas and suggestions on where to meet the type of person you describe.

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They do, you can't believe the comments I get from some men here sometimes. But lets say if I go to a bar, I get way more attention looking like a "hottie" than looking like a "cutie".

Well that's a given in a bar :laugh:. The ones who are dressed up and made up the most generally get the most attention. Same with guys, guys who turn up looking like they just got home from work or just finished clocking final fantasy don't get the looks. The guys who look like the prestigious 1%er most certainly will lol.

 

You have to figure out, do you at heart want to be a hottie or a cutie.

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Well that's a given in a bar :laugh:. The ones who are dressed up and made up the most generally get the most attention. Same with guys, guys who turn up looking like they just got home from work or just finished clocking final fantasy don't get the looks. The guys who look like the prestigious 1%er most certainly will lol.

 

You have to figure out, do you at heart want to be a hottie or a cutie.

 

Hottie, always....but I get cutie more :((

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Hottie, always....but I get cutie more :((

Don't worry. Sometimes I wish I was better looking too, but I've grown very comfortable with how I look recently, and am looking to improve upon that.

 

I wouldn't fret about not being a hottie. Being a cutie is not very different in fact, it's just a different variation of a beautiful woman. And a cutie with a multidimensional character can definitely be way hotter than a typical hottie :love:.

 

Out of curiosity, are you mixed raced???

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I admit, I was once like that. I did not like doors being held open for me or chairs being pulled out for me. But not anymore. In the dating world, I find that if you encounter a man who is ok with having the woman pay her way and whatnot, they don't treat you nicely for the rest of the relationship. They kind of expect for women to chase after them and make them happy and whatnot. It's a 2 way street and they don't want to play nicely with you.

 

Chivalry is not dead, but there are some we have to beat it out of. Now I say I don't want to be treated as your equal, I want to be treated a whole lot better than you do! Not because I am a princess, but because it's about a sense of respect.

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Not always true. I used to know women that could look gorgeous with what they bought at the thrift store. A woman does not need a thousand dollar hand bag to look good.

I agree.

 

I grew up in a very affluent area, and I can assure you the clothing we wore did not determine our attractiveness, or more importantly our character.

 

It might be expensive, but it doesn’t perform miracles. I don’t care how expensive an article of clothing is, it won’t make the wearer more attractive. It will simply make them look like they are wearing expensive clothes. Meh…men are just imagining women without them anyway, so I don’t think it really matters what they cost…

 

*Holy bajesus! Exercising is high maintenance? Well, that explains it! That must be why some men didn’t pursue me; they had nose bleeds from how high my maintenance is and they were too busy taking care of them...

 

Wonders off, pondering if brushing and flossing my teeth is considered high maintenance too…

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Chivalry is not dead, but there are some we have to beat it out of. Now I say I don't want to be treated as your equal, I want to be treated a whole lot better than you do! Not because I am a princess, but because it's about a sense of respect.

 

Sorry that is princess treatment

 

If a man said he wanted to be treated whole lot better then a women i could imagine the names hed be called

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I admit, I was once like that. I did not like doors being held open for me or chairs being pulled out for me. But not anymore. In the dating world, I find that if you encounter a man who is ok with having the woman pay her way and whatnot, they don't treat you nicely for the rest of the relationship. They kind of expect for women to chase after them and make them happy and whatnot. It's a 2 way street and they don't want to play nicely with you.

 

Chivalry is not dead, but there are some we have to beat it out of. Now I say I don't want to be treated as your equal, I want to be treated a whole lot better than you do! Not because I am a princess, but because it's about a sense of respect.

Hahaha...you are not a hypocrite at all :laugh:

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Chivalry is not dead, but there are some we have to beat it out of. Now I say I don't want to be treated as your equal, I want to be treated a whole lot better than you do! Not because I am a princess, but because it's about a sense of respect.

 

You expect him to treat you better than you treat him? :confused:

 

Doesn't he also deserve a sense of respect?

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Yes, I agree with you. Thank you for understanding! And you're right, i've been deemed a gold-digger more than I can count, all because I think a man should pay on dates. It's so frustrating. They just don't get it.

 

Even though gentlemen still exist, they are very small in numbers. And I blame this "movement" for it. I use the term movement very loosely because it has done great things. By "movement" I mean women becoming so stone cold and rude with men because they think that's what makes a woman independent or tough.

 

Stupidity is so bothersome. *sigh*

 

 

 

This is true, but often time men complain because the think that when a woman wants "chivalry" she is expecting "too much" and wants a "prince charming". They just don't get it.

 

Holding a door opem for me is something I have no problem with. However if my SO started treating me as if I was a helpless little child. (.... opening my car door, pulling my chair out for me when we go to dinner, standing up when I leave the table) then I think I would have to say something to him.

 

Thankfully he is enough of a gentlemen when he needs to be, but also knows that I am able to do at least a few things by myself.

 

Whats funny to me is... on our third date after he paid I told him I wanted to take him out next time wherever he wanted to go and I would pay. He said he was so shocked by this because most women expect the guy to pay for everything just because he is a guy. I honestly have never understood why the guy should *always* pay. I can understand the first few dates, but after that why should it always be all on him

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Out of curiosity, are you mixed raced???

 

no, I wish I was though:love:

ThaWholigan Established Member

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no, I wish I was though:love:

;)

 

You're OK, I think you shouldn't worry too much about high maintenance. And good looking guys don't always go to bars :D. I should know - I hang out at Waterstones :laugh:. Cuties always on my radar in that place. As a cutie, you gotta narrow down your areas of expertise when it comes to locations. What kind of guy you're looking to attract, and where you can attract them, and what setting suits you and your look the best.

 

Sounds like a maths exam :D

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