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Els Established Member

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I disagree that guys would enjoy it, if it was a woman they found unattractive or disgusting in some way.

 

Have you actually tried it? I have trouble believing that.

 

Granted, you have to ensure that the guy is, of course, a NSA sort of guy. If he's in a committed relationship, or only interested in committed relationships, I doubt he'll agree no matter who the woman is. But if he's interested in NSAs and a less-than-attractive woman offers sex to him, I'm pretty sure he'll snatch it up regardless.

verhrzn Established Member

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Have you actually tried it? I have trouble believing that.

 

Granted, you have to ensure that the guy is, of course, a NSA sort of guy. If he's in a committed relationship, or only interested in committed relationships, I doubt he'll agree no matter who the woman is. But if he's interested in NSAs and a less-than-attractive woman offers sex to him, I'm pretty sure he'll snatch it up regardless.

 

Oh I totally have. A few years ago, my male friend made some dumba** comment about how girls "can get sex whenever they want." And I was so very tired of listening to his gendered whine that I responded," Challenge accepted!"

 

We went down to our local college watering street (we're in the Midwest, we have an entire street of bars, compared to a "watering hole.") We choose 5 guys at 5 different "types" of bars (hippie, pub, dance club, Bro bar, and "get STDs walking through the door") in 5 different states of intoxication.

 

I went up to each of them and said," I want to have sex with you." Each of them declined, some more politely than others. Some of them acted downright offended, and got hassled by their friends as I was leaving.

 

It shut my friend up for a year.

Eddie Edirol Established Member

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I really don't understand why guys have such a hard time emphasizing with the fact that someone whom you are not romantically attracted to, saying this is creepy/insulting.

 

 

Because most men and women shoot to date out of their league, and dont even know it, and alot of people like QG dont understand the art of mystery. Some people want to believe they worked for the sex, they dont want it handed to them.

Els Established Member

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Oh I totally have. A few years ago, my male friend made some dumba** comment about how girls "can get sex whenever they want." And I was so very tired of listening to his gendered whine that I responded," Challenge accepted!"

 

We went down to our local college watering street (we're in the Midwest, we have an entire street of bars, compared to a "watering hole.") We choose 5 guys at 5 different "types" of bars (hippie, pub, dance club, Bro bar, and "get STDs walking through the door") in 5 different states of intoxication.

 

I went up to each of them and said," I want to have sex with you." Each of them declined, some more politely than others. Some of them acted downright offended, and got hassled by their friends as I was leaving.

 

It shut my friend up for a year.

 

Uhhhhm, okay. I concede. :confused:

verhrzn Established Member

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Uhhhhm, okay. I concede. :confused:

 

*Victory lap*

 

I wish the OP would just get a prostitute. He'd be much happier than he apparently is posting here.

Oxy Moronovich Established Member

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Wow, does that work for everything?

 

I can just walk into Best Buy, ask for a TV and they'll give it to me just like that?

It might work. Or you could spend all your time attention-whoring on the internet about how sh*tty your dating life is.

Els Established Member

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*Victory lap*

 

I wish the OP would just get a prostitute. He'd be much happier than he apparently is posting here.

 

I definitely agree with that.

 

He could even get TWO prostitutes to indulge his 'lesbian sex is better' fetish.. :laugh:

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verhrzn Established Member

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One instance doesn't conclude the whole deal.

 

I think tons of guys, married or not, if confronted by some young, blond with an apple butt asking if she can bang him, would take the opportunity no questions asked.

 

Uh... yeah cause she's young and blonde with an apple butt. If a man that fit an individual woman's opinion of gorgeous (gorgeous being a different set of qualities for each woman) came up to her and said he just HAD to sweep her off to a romantic weekend in Paris for some sexy, she'd probably take the opportunity as well.

 

Attractive people can do things unattractive people cannot. If you are not attractive, but demand sex from attractive people, then pay for it. The end.

Oxy Moronovich Established Member

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I'm a total woman who loves to have sex with a total, complete man. I don't sleep with a guy's wallet. Same feeling.

"Total, complete man"? What the hell is that?

Woggle Established Member

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It is 100% possible for a man to be sexually attracted to a woman and respect her as a person. I admit my wife's kindness, intelligence and all the other good traits she has but I also want to have sex with her. The two are not mutually exclusive.

casanovadude81 Established Member

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Sex is only taboo if you make it so. Don't let others have power over you. Live your life for love.

Els Established Member

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The interesting thing that I note about threads like these is that the same male posters who complain about the inequality of women finding it easier to get someone to have sex with, or that women hold the 'power' when it comes to sex... are also the same male posters who will defend to the death the male 'need' for sex, variety, and physical attraction, citing biological and evolutionary/animal reasons.

 

My opinion is that if you wish to live by your biological impulses as your evolutionary ancestors did, then you should be willing to accept the consequences as your evolutionary ancestors did. Which for the most part, involves females holding the 'power'. The animal male jumps through more hoops than the human one does to have sex - this is limited not only to dancing around with the most impractical of feathers and colored fins, or building the best nests or the earliest spring arrivals... it often also involves bloody and often fatal battles with other males to keep your mate, or fighting to the death for the position of leader of the pack.

 

So yes, biology IS all about women 'withholding sex as a commodity'. A man can either choose to play the biology game... or, he can choose to exercise his cerebral cortex's powerful override ability, and control his impulses instead of using biology as an excuse. Something can only be treated as a valuable commodity if there is significant demand in excess of supply. If you wish sex to be, to modern humans, an expression of love and mutual pleasure, then treat gender relations as such, and stop using 'biological impulses' as an excuse only where you like it. The surest way to be treated like an animal is to act like one.

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Oxy Moronovich Established Member

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The interesting thing that I note about threads like these is that the same male posters who complain about the inequality of women finding it easier to get someone to have sex with, or that women hold the 'power' when it comes to sex... are also the same male posters who will defend to the death the male 'need' for sex, variety, and physical attraction, citing biological and evolutionary/animal reasons.

 

Can you name these male posters? Or do you want us to take your word for it these are the same male posters?

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IMO, it's the objectification in most cases.

 

My husband says I'm sexy and that he wants to have sex with me all the time, so the notion of someone saying that really doesn't offend me (obviously). Hubby does not get slapped, and he frequently gets heartily sexed up when he says such a thing. I was never offended, either, by any other SO I had over the years saying how sexy I was or how much he wanted to or liked having sex with me. Sex, itself, does not offend me.

 

Actually, a guy calling me "sexy" (even if he is not an SO) in a reasonable context does not (by itself) offend me. A guy propositioning me for sex often does because it's usually done in a lewd, objectifying manner where I am no longer seen as a whole and complete person. I do not doubt that hubby sees me as a whole and complete person, which is why when he says things about sex to me, I light up, rather than wish to slap him or toss my drink in his face.

 

I think it would be very hard to approach a stranger, in any context, and proposition them for sex without objectifying them. But not impossible. I'm sure it could be done, and while I'd still say, "No," I might not be offended. However, certainly it would not be done by someone who felt sex was the main reason to want a woman. That person would be fixating on the woman as a sexual object and then it would be offensive.

 

There's an actor I like (Nathan Fillion) who's like a geek girl magnet. I remember once reading of him complaining in a tweet (I follow him on Twitter mainly because I'm still waiting for a new Dr. Horrible and I follow anyone that might ever mention when DH2 will happen) about a woman grabbing his ass. Hubby has also complained about being objectified by women before, and he's not even a celebrity. :) So, it's not just women who feel objectified these days, though women are subjected to it more than men -- for their looks, at least. Not everyone minds being objectified either. Some people like it -- usually the ones who do it to others, but even most of those think they'd like it but really wouldn't if it happened over and over again.

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The interesting thing that I note about threads like these is that the same male posters who complain about the inequality of women finding it easier to get someone to have sex with, or that women hold the 'power' when it comes to sex... are also the same male posters who will defend to the death the male 'need' for sex, variety, and physical attraction, citing biological and evolutionary/animal reasons.

 

 

And, the same male poster(s) usually finds a way of slipping in his "factoid" that all women use sex as wampum, if they aren't outright selling it for money.

 

Oh, I am so weary of these clowns.

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Chubbi Established Member

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Apparently, Cristiano Ronaldo told a waitress he wanted to eff her and now he has a baby!

 

Also, Tupac and Lil Wayne are very forward and I think it works for them.

 

For me, at 22, hell yes there are definitely men out there who if they ever wanted it, I would have sex with and enjoy myself immensely if they used that line. wolverine guy, Ryan Gosling, Alexander Skargard, Boris Kodjoe. Since I'm a virgin, I can get away with a few dalliances and hookups and no one would bat an eye, but that's fantasy land (Ryan Gosling wanting to have sex with me).

 

For most part, no, that line will not work for the vast majority of men, sorry.

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Well, both.

 

It's rude to just come out to say that, because the woman feels objectified.

 

On the other hand, it saves time.

 

I guess you have to be clever and hint at it subtly. If she's smart enough, she'll get the point and with her next move, you'll get your answer.

 

If she doesn't get it, she's either stupid or you need to be more obvious.

 

Although to be honest, I think a woman can almost always sense it anyways.

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For me, at 22, hell yes there are definitely men out there who if they ever wanted it, I would have sex with and enjoy myself immensely if they used that line. wolverine guy, Ryan Gosling, Alexander Skargard, Boris Kodjoe. Since I'm a virgin, I can get away with a few dalliances and hookups and no one would bat an eye, but that's fantasy land (Ryan Gosling wanting to have sex with me).

 

Hah. So would the rest of us honey, but good luck finding a man as successful and good looking to have sex with. If you do, let me know!

Eddie Edirol Established Member

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*Victory lap*

 

I wish the OP would just get a prostitute. He'd be much happier than he apparently is posting here.

 

The OP's excuse for not getting a prostitute is that he's disabled, so he cant dial the phone, or drive to skid row or walk up to the hookers on skid row, or talk straight to say he needs sex. Dont even ask him about getting money.

 

 

Bumping this for QuietGuy, he may not be able to find it on second page.

 

He doesnt look at these threads after he's started them.

somedude81 Established Member

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Look at it this way, would you really want a girl like that who actually takes him up on his request like that? Possibly for a one night stand or a whore, but a partner? Nah.

For a partner, of course not.

 

But something casual, hell yeah.

 

The interesting thing that I note about threads like these is that the same male posters who complain about the inequality of women finding it easier to get someone to have sex with, or that women hold the 'power' when it comes to sex... are also the same male posters who will defend to the death the male 'need' for sex, variety, and physical attraction, citing biological and evolutionary/animal reasons.

And?

 

The animal male jumps through more hoops than the human one does to have sex

That's debatable.

 

- this is limited not only to dancing around with the most impractical of feathers and colored fins, or building the best nests or the earliest spring arrivals... it often also involves bloody and often fatal battles with other males to keep your mate, or fighting to the death for the position of leader of the pack.
Don't forget all the crazy things human males do to get female attention. Dressing in funny clothes, lifting and putting down weights in repetitive motions, playing group games that may or may not involve a ball, making something called music or singing, acquiring large amounts of "money." That's not even mentioning the actual physical fights that happened between men, because of a woman.

 

So yes, biology IS all about women 'withholding sex as a commodity'.
Did anybody say it wasn't?

 

A man can either choose to play the biology game... or, he can choose to exercise his cerebral cortex's powerful override ability, and control his impulses instead of using biology as an excuse.

Sorry, only a very limited number of men can use their brain to override their sexual impulse. And they do it through long years of meditation.

 

Something can only be treated as a valuable commodity if there is significant demand in excess of supply.
And the supply and demand of women/sex are pretty much equal. So women/sex shouldn't be treated as a valuable commodity but it is for some reason.

 

The fact that an average woman can sell herself for $300 an hour is retarded. Sex isn't worth that much money, but the market says otherwise.

 

If you wish sex to be, to modern humans, an expression of love and mutual pleasure, then treat gender relations as such, and stop using 'biological impulses' as an excuse only where you like it. The surest way to be treated like an animal is to act like one.

I don't fallow. What excuse are you talking about and how does it related to an expression of love and mutual pleasure?

Oh I totally have. A few years ago, my male friend made some dumba** comment about how girls "can get sex whenever they want." And I was so very tired of listening to his gendered whine that I responded," Challenge accepted!"

 

We went down to our local college watering street (we're in the Midwest, we have an entire street of bars, compared to a "watering hole.") We choose 5 guys at 5 different "types" of bars (hippie, pub, dance club, Bro bar, and "get STDs walking through the door") in 5 different states of intoxication.

 

I went up to each of them and said," I want to have sex with you." Each of them declined, some more politely than others. Some of them acted downright offended, and got hassled by their friends as I was leaving.

 

It shut my friend up for a year.

I'd..

 

Oh wait :o

 

Been down that road already.

I wish the OP would just get a prostitute. He'd be much happier than he apparently is posting here.

Why don't you just hook up with the guy from your work. I'm sure his offer still stands.

Apparently, Cristiano Ronaldo told a waitress he wanted to eff her and now he has a baby!

 

Also, Tupac and Lil Wayne are very forward and I think it works for them.

 

For me, at 22, hell yes there are definitely men out there who if they ever wanted it, I would have sex with and enjoy myself immensely if they used that line. wolverine guy, Ryan Gosling, Alexander Skargard, Boris Kodjoe. Since I'm a virgin, I can get away with a few dalliances and hookups and no one would bat an eye, but that's fantasy land (Ryan Gosling wanting to have sex with me).

 

For most part, no, that line will not work for the vast majority of men, sorry.

And my point is proven.

Hah. So would the rest of us honey, but good luck finding a man as successful and good looking to have sex with. If you do, let me know!

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verhrzn Established Member

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Why don't you just hook up with the guy from your work. I'm sure his offer still stands.

 

You are confusing guys. I have a crush on a guy at work, but he is engaged. There was a guy in my social group who was looking for an FWB, and I hooked him up with my friend. The only reason he went for me was because he didn't know any other single women. Now that he knows another single woman (my friend), the offer is no longer open.

 

I still don't get what's the big deal with using prostitution, since sex with pretty ladies is oh so damn important. Have a weekend in Nevada, wear a condom, ta-da.

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You are confusing guys. I have a crush on a guy at work, but he is engaged. There was a guy in my social group who was looking for an FWB, and I hooked him up with my friend. The only reason he went for me was because he didn't know any other single women. Now that he knows another single woman (my friend), the offer is no longer open.

 

I still don't get what's the big deal with using prostitution, since sex with pretty ladies is oh so damn important. Have a weekend in Nevada, wear a condom, ta-da.

My mistake about mixing the guys up.

 

How does it feel having sex with a guy who wants nothing else to do with you? I'm sure the actual sex is great which is why you'd do it, and it meets the physical need. But does it take care of everything?

verhrzn Established Member

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My mistake about mixing the guys up.

 

How does it feel having sex with a guy who wants nothing else to do with you? I'm sure the actual sex is great which is why you'd do it, and it meets the physical need. But does it take care of everything?

 

Actually, the physical sex is usually lousy. The guy has no interest in me; he just wants to get off. I'm usually just a blow-up toy. It does not satisfy the sexual need almost at all.

 

What it fulfills is the emotional need. Being lonely in someone else's company is better than being lonely by yourself, the saying goes.

 

However, an FWB is vastly different from what the OP wants. He wants to be able to go up to a pretty girl, tell her he wants sex, and get it. Prostitution would fulfill that need beautifully.

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Actually, the physical sex is usually lousy. The guy has no interest in me; he just wants to get off. I'm usually just a blow-up toy. It does not satisfy the sexual need almost at all.

Really?

 

I'm sorry :(

 

I thought the guy would at least make sure you have a great time. That's...

 

What it fulfills is the emotional need. Being lonely in someone else's company is better than being lonely by yourself, the saying goes.

Ugh!

However, an FWB is vastly different from what the OP wants. He wants to be able to go up to a pretty girl, tell her he wants sex, and get it. Prostitution would fulfill that need beautifully.

Honestly, I don't know what QuietGuy wants. I was just projecting.

 

A prostitute is just empty sex and it seems to be the equivalently of a woman booty from a guy when she wants more, but only does it because she wants sex. I wasn't aware that women tried to get their emotional needs met though something that empty.

verhrzn Established Member

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Really?

 

I'm sorry :(

 

I thought the guy would at least make sure you have a great time. That's...

 

Ugh!

Honestly, I don't know what QuietGuy wants. I was just projecting.

 

A prostitute is just empty sex and it seems to be the equivalently of a woman booty from a guy when she wants more, but only does it because she wants sex. I wasn't aware that women tried to get their emotional needs met though something that empty.

 

Well... most women don't, which is why they don't do FWB. The women who do FWB fall into two categories: either they are in it just for the empty sex, or they tell themselves they're in it for the empty sex but secretly hope it leads to a relationship because she likes the guy.

 

For me, it's just better than nothing. Which is why I suggest prostitution for guys who can't get beautiful women to have sex with them in every day life... empty or not, it's better than nothing, and it gives you at least some of what you want.

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