Imajerk17 Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) There is a lot of complaining by the Lovable Losers how they can't get what they want from women. And they think that women are "shallow" for not giving them what they want. Well guess what--I'm shallow too. I have a physical type. I have other criteria that I need to be in place with someone I date. I know I'm discounting a lot of awesome people, but thing is, I need to feel attraction for me to be into it. C'est la vie. Thing is though, I don't expect the women I want to date to just fall into my lap. I don't expect people to like me "just because". I'm on the short side, and I definitely wasn't born with social skills. I even had something of a learning disability growing up. So I learned the only way I was going to get what I want is to go for it. To that end, I approach women. I go to the gym and work out, and work out hard. I did lots of crazy things to get what I wanted in life. I sure as hell didn't come on to a message board to whine. I also strike out a lot. And very often it's my own fault. Maybe I wasn't bold enough. I chicken out sometimes. I'm sure that it might have also been because I wasn't tall enough or young enough or whatever, but c'est la vie. Everyone has their preferences just as I have mine. Here is the sad truth: Not everyone is going to get to reproduce. Things won't be handed to you in life. You can get what you want in life, but you have to go for it. Edited March 31, 2012 by Imajerk17 10
ThaWholigan Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 I have had similar experiences (well, except that I have been above 6 foot since 14). I also have things I'm attracted to about women. I am unapologetic about it either. I think it's just better to get on with it. I like the debates and the different points of view, but I really like take part in them more impersonally. I'll add personal anecdotes, but I make sure it is seen as such, rather than a whine . 2
Art_Critic Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Here is the sad truth: Not everyone is going to get to reproduce. Some won't even get the chance to try either... Of course we all have our must haves.. IMO if you are using physical appearance as a must have at the expense of living and dating then you are doing it all wrong and most likely spend a lot of time alone. 1
Author Imajerk17 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Some won't even get the chance to try either... Of course we all have our must haves.. IMO if you are using physical appearance as a must have at the expense of living and dating then you are doing it all wrong and most likely spend a lot of time alone. From the threads lately, there are a few guys on here whom I can't see ever getting a chance to try I don't like to make fun of anyone's plight in life, but if all someone does is whine or spew vile, then that's actually good news. Let their genes die out. Seriously, not without a serious change in attitude. Edited March 31, 2012 by Imajerk17 1
Mr Frisky Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 There is a lot of complaining by the Lovable Losers how they can't get what they want from women. And they think that women are "shallow" for not giving them what they want. Well guess what--I'm shallow too. I have a physical type. I have other criteria that I need to be in place with someone I date. I know I'm discounting a lot of awesome people, but thing is, I need to feel attraction for me to be into it. C'est la vie. Thing is though, I don't expect the women I want to date to just fall into my lap. I don't expect people to like me "just because". I'm on the short side, and I definitely wasn't born with social skills. I even had something of a learning disability growing up. So I learned the only way I was going to get what I want is to go for it. To that end, I approach women. I go to the gym and work out, and work out hard. I did lots of crazy things to get what I wanted in life. I sure as hell didn't come on to a message board to whine. I also strike out a lot. And very often it's my own fault. Maybe I wasn't bold enough. I chicken out sometimes. I'm sure that it might have also been because I wasn't tall enough or young enough or whatever, but c'est la vie. Everyone has their preferences just as I have mine. Here is the sad truth: Not everyone is going to get to reproduce. Things won't be handed to you in life. You can get what you want in life, but you have to go for it. This a very truthful post, friend. The real sad truth is that these "Lovable Losers" will waste their time on this board, listening to the demonic ramblings of other "lovable Losers" to reinforce the world view that the reason they can not get laid is because women are superficial and evil. There is only one way for these mens to find favor with that girl of their dreams....Money....Lots of money. Money is the greatest aphrodisiac, friend. I Suggest maybe entering the entry level position in a drug cartel to help meet the money requirements to land the golddigger of your dreams. Chop Chop, friends. Feeling sorry for yourselves is so demonic, friend. 4
Cracker Jack Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Definitely agree completely. Unfortunately, topics like this are usually the ones that get the least attention, while the ones filled with whining do. Some people would rather spend their time blaming women, men, or fate than doing what they can to improve themselves. After awhile, you just start to realize some people aren't worth the hassle. 2
tigressA Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 Definitely agree completely. Unfortunately, topics like this are usually the ones that get the least attention, while the ones filled with whining do. Some people would rather spend their time blaming women, men, or fate than doing what they can to improve themselves. After awhile, you just start to realize some people aren't worth the hassle. But apparently they are worth it as entertainment as people continue to give them attention when they whine... 2
FitChick Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 A few of the women are just as bad as the men. I generally avoid both sets of losers' threads because, frankly, they are boring. 5
Author Imajerk17 Posted March 31, 2012 Author Posted March 31, 2012 I want to emphasize that I don't get every girl. Not by any means. But, BUT I learned to take responsibility for it. This and other areas of my life, both successful and areas that I wish were better. As I said, I talk about how guys should be approaching but I sometimes chicken out myself. I don't know why I do this, because 99% of the time even if the girl isn't interested or has a boyfriend, she is very nice.
somedude81 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 I sure as hell didn't come on to a message board to whine. And yet here you are.
sLiPpeTh Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 I don't care what women want. Whatever it is, they're not getting any wallet from me.
Jane2011 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 There is a lot of complaining by the Lovable Losers how they can't get what they want from women. And they think that women are "shallow" for not giving them what they want. Well guess what--I'm shallow too. I have a physical type. I have other criteria that I need to be in place with someone I date. I know I'm discounting a lot of awesome people, but thing is, I need to feel attraction for me to be into it. C'est la vie. Thing is though, I don't expect the women I want to date to just fall into my lap. I don't expect people to like me "just because". I'm on the short side, and I definitely wasn't born with social skills. I even had something of a learning disability growing up. So I learned the only way I was going to get what I want is to go for it. To that end, I approach women. I go to the gym and work out, and work out hard. I did lots of crazy things to get what I wanted in life. I sure as hell didn't come on to a message board to whine. I also strike out a lot. And very often it's my own fault. Maybe I wasn't bold enough. I chicken out sometimes. I'm sure that it might have also been because I wasn't tall enough or young enough or whatever, but c'est la vie. Everyone has their preferences just as I have mine. Here is the sad truth: Not everyone is going to get to reproduce. Things won't be handed to you in life. You can get what you want in life, but you have to go for it. I really like this attitude, especially the part about not reproducing. I know some old people who died alone and unrequited (including my stepfather). We need to accept the fact that we may be one of these people, and it's nothing personal. Not everyone in the world can have it good. If we all had it good, no one would be aware of having it good because there would be no people who had it bad to contrast one's own good life with. Some of us are just meant to be the unlucky ones who don't have the fairy tale. I'm increasingly pessimistic about love, dating, relationships, and the idea of 'the one', but it's in a very peaceful way. I don't feel too angry about it, but rather...like...who cares! Just have fun in life. Get together with people even if it's not going to last forever. Enjoy your relationships without jealousy and ill will. Stop hating in general. Stop caring about whether you're going to find 'the one' or not. 'The one' is overrated, anyway.
Jane2011 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 That being said, I don't really mind the whining. I find it entertaining, truthfully. And I have to say, this board is a cool place. I've enjoyed the people and it's actually served to make me more peaceful / zen about things. (surprisingly). I've talked in private to at least one member who actually dramatically shifted my viewpoint about something.
Oxy Moronovich Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 A few of the women are just as bad as the men. I generally avoid both sets of losers' threads because, frankly, they are boring. One of the women is FrustratedStandards. Her attention whorish posts grated on my last nerve. I had to put her on ignore. But people quote her way too often. I wonder why people who consider themselves members here for a serious discussion find themselves constantly engaging in jibber-jabber posts with LS' attention whores and trolls. 1
somedude81 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 I really like this attitude, especially the part about not reproducing. I know some old people who died alone and unrequited (including my stepfather). We need to accept the fact that we may be one of these people, and it's nothing personal. Not everyone in the world can have it good. If we all had it good, no one would be aware of having it good because there would be no people who had it bad to contrast one's own good life with. Some of us are just meant to be the unlucky ones who don't have the fairy tale. Sure it's a fairy tale to always have it good. But shouldn't the same be said about always having it bad? Surely the sun must come out every once in a while right?
somedude81 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 One of the women is FrustratedStandards. Her attention whorish posts grated on my last nerve. I had to put her on ignore. But people quote her way too often. I wonder why people who consider themselves members here for a serious discussion find themselves constantly engaging in jibber-jabber posts with LS' attention whores and trolls. I like FS. The very fact that she has that name means that she's aware of her problems. She sounds like somebody who is very desirable, and it only makes sense that she would want to be with men who are like her.
RiverRunning Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Cliche as it is, there is someone out there for -everyone-. Isn't it one of the rules of the Internet? If it exists, it's involved in porn somewhere? I've visited feeder forums and fat admirer forums just to see what the culture is like. It is truly something to see men and women - who quite literally appear to be models from pages of magazines - cooing and ahhing over people who are 100+, 200+ or 500+ pounds overweight. Although I'm starting to wonder if I'm a freak - I don't have a type. I see individuals who are in and of themselves attractive. I never would have thought my ex was my type - a bit shorter than me, an obvious aesthetic disfiguration, pasty, thin but with little muscle, etc, but there you have it. I have fallen helplessly in love with men who are fat and round, men who are lanky and so thin their ribs are jutting out, short men, tall men, white men, black men, handsome men, unconventionally handsome men (if I like them, they're all handsome! ), etc. To limit yourself to a type is defeating, I would think. An open mind to all different people is important when you're dating. Of course, if certain features are deal-breakers for you, it is best not to waste anyone's time. But I also think dealbreakers should be thought over and examined (are these my preferences or am I regurgitating someone else's preferences because I want to maintain a certain status?) before casting out a potential mate. 1
Author Imajerk17 Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) FWIW, I don't consider someone who struggles (or who completely strikes out) when it comes to dating to be a Loser. What I consider Loser BEHAVIOR is just sitting on one's duff whining, and coming on here making asinine thread after asinine thread. How is that possibly going to help you learn? At the end of the day, you got to attract her, and the only way to do that is to approach, make your mistakes, and THEN get *specific* advice/soul-searching on how you could do better. True, what women/men are attracted to isn't "fair". I've done my share of head-shaking about the crazy filters of the opposite gender. Let's get past that though. What we are attracted to isn't "fair" either. I've had some painful strike-outs (I still do) but I did plenty of soul-searching of what I could have done better. I've turned to friends, mentors, and even the Internet. I learned an awful lot and did tonnes of growing. Guys, there is no reason why you can't grow yourselves. You just have to want it. Edited April 3, 2012 by Imajerk17
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