xxoo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I agree with this. You primarily burn fat while sleeping. I've noticed I loose weight slightly quicker if i'm getting more than 6hrs a night. Also, It's bad to cut cals while breast feeding. But it's just as bad to eat so much food you start packing on the lbs. But like I said, getting fat = eating more calories than your body is using. There is no hidden force causing you to gain weight. But a woman MUST gain weight during pregnancy. So even a woman who gains a healthy amt of weight will have pounds to lose after birth. And those pounds can take longer than a year to lose, due to real medical factors such as nursing or sleep deprivation. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Yes, I will try to dig some sources up later, but there is. It's one of the many reasons I've never been to keen on pregnancy. I love my high metabolism -- not just for the thinness, but for other reasons (medicine, for example, kicks in almost instantly when I take it, as does a glass of any kind of alcohol when I drink it, and alcohol also 'burns off' faster). Women with particularly high metabolisms are most likely to be impacted in the most dramatic fashion. A woman with an already slow or average metabolism was far less likely to be strong impacted, though. The impacts of pregnancy on cognitive function were the most disturbing to me, though. I know it's a miracle and all, but pregnancy really Fs you up! Thanks, Zen, I'd love to read that. My metabolism has remained high after babies. My mom's did, too, but slowed with menopause. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Phineas, You understand that in a healthy pregnancy a woman gains a significant amount of weight, right? Many women do overeat and gain more than that (most doctors tell them to cool it when they do) but all pregnancy includes a significant weight gain. So I understand if you're trying to say many women overeat -- many do -- but not if you're suggesting there should be no or little weight gain in pregnancy. It's unclear which you mean. Yes, I will try to dig some sources up later, but there is. It's one of the many reasons I've never been to keen on pregnancy. I love my high metabolism -- not just for the thinness, but for other reasons (medicine, for example, kicks in almost instantly when I take it, as does a glass of any kind of alcohol when I drink it, and alcohol also 'burns off' faster). Women with particularly high metabolisms are most likely to be impacted in the most dramatic fashion. A woman with an already slow or average metabolism was far less likely to be strong impacted, though. The impacts of pregnancy on cognitive function were the most disturbing to me, though. I know it's a miracle and all, but pregnancy really Fs you up! Weight gain is fine. Large amounts FAT is not. There is a difference. There is no reason a woman should develop bingo arm & a double chin just because she is pregnant. It's unhealthy. Link to post Share on other sites
Feelin Frisky Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 A person gaining significant weight signifies an overall unhappiness and not caring about their looks. That's different than a person who loses a job and finds himself making less. The man who makes less can still be happy and strive to achieve. I know people who went to a job that earned them less but were much happier and much more sociable than when they earned more. I have yet to meet a person that gained significant weight and were much happier. You have no idea what people with obesity problems feel or think and your comment is unflattering to YOU. Look at Oprah Winfrey just for an expedient illustration. With all her money and all the incentive in the world to keep off the weight she lost, it came back and made what was I'm sure very uncomfortable tabloid newspaper headlines. No one who does not have recurrent obesity problem has any business generalizing about people who do "not caring about how they look". I know how it is to suffer the embarrassment of getting big and answering doofuses who would say "so, you're putting on weight, huh"? No one in their right mind "puts on" weight. It happens because some people don't have a natural "off switch" that makes them indifferent to food where eating becomes something you have to force yourself to do. Can you imagine having a major system in your body like your autonomic breathing function not work and the only way to stay alive was to consciously control every breath? Well a person with a compulsive eating disorder can fight really hard to win a battle over an impulse, But no more than a minute later they are back with the same impulse over-taking them. That's how it can be ALLL THE TIME. And most everyone cares about how they look--they just have a compulsion that knocks every other thought out of their heads just like a dope addict who is about to get that satisfaction of his or her drug of choice. You don't have to like, admire, or otherwise favor obese persons, just at least try not to insult them while patting yourself on the back for something that comes easy and natural for you. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 But a woman MUST gain weight during pregnancy. So even a woman who gains a healthy amt of weight will have pounds to lose after birth. And those pounds can take longer than a year to lose, due to real medical factors such as nursing or sleep deprivation. Ok. I see the problem. I'm not being clear. when I say "weight" i'm referring to excess bodyfat. I'll clarify that from here out. If it isn't healthy for the mother it can't be healthy for the baby. gaining weight is expected. There is all kinds of stuff growing in there. I've seen it all come out. LOL! so I know. There is no set amount of weight either that I know of off. You can't starve the baby. Breast feeding also. It's stupid to try & be on a deficit. But once breast feeding is done there is no reason anyone can't loose 1 to 2 lbs a week through diet alone. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 You have no idea what people with obesity problems feel or think and your comment is unflattering to YOU. Look at Oprah Winfrey just for an expedient illustration. With all her money and all the incentive in the world to keep off the weight she lost, it came back and made what was I'm sure very uncomfortable tabloid newspaper headlines. No one who does not have recurrent obesity problem has any business generalizing about people who do "not caring about how they look". I know how it is to suffer the embarrassment of getting big and answering doofuses who would say "so, you're putting on weight, huh"? No one in their right mind "puts on" weight. It happens because some people don't have a natural "off switch" that makes them indifferent to food where eating becomes something you have to force yourself to do. Can you imagine having a major system in your body like your autonomic breathing function not work and the only way to stay alive was to consciously control every breath? Well a person with a compulsive eating disorder can fight really hard to win a battle over an impulse, But no more than a minute later they are back with the same impulse over-taking them. That's how it can be ALLL THE TIME. And most everyone cares about how they look--they just have a compulsion that knocks every other thought out of their heads just like a dope addict who is about to get that satisfaction of his or her drug of choice. You don't have to like, admire, or otherwise favor obese persons, just at least try not to insult them while patting yourself on the back for something that comes easy and natural for you. And this is probably why i'm such a dick about people giving bad advice. I wasn't born fat. I ate myself to 260lbs at a height of 5'8". That's a size 48 pants. I was round. It took a yr alone for me to fight the urge to stuff my face. It was torture. But I WANTED IT. It took me a yr to drop 50lbs & another yr to drop another 50lbs. The 2nd yr was the easiest. When I bulked to add muscle I had to force myself to eat more so I could grow & I had indigestion. I had to switch to a weight gain shake because I couldn't digest that much food comfortably anymore. Crash dieting doesn't work it's just going to lead to failure. You need a lifestyle change and that takes time. About as much time as it took you to develop the need to eat all the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 No, not cleared up. Babies can breastfeed for a year. It can be nearly impossible for some women to (safely) lose the weight while breastfeeding. Also, studies suggest that the amt of sleep a new mother gets every night affects her ability to lose weight. That would depend on the baby, other children, other responsibilities, the dad's contribution, etc. Okay. If that's the case, something can be arranged. If a man wants his wife to lose weight after the pregnancy, he should be doing whatever he can to help her do this. He can hire someone to help. Or he can even take over the responsibilities of raising the child himself. If a guy wants his wife to be thin, he should be willing to go the extra mile so she can have time to get in shape. Hopefully, he doesn't have a woman like phineas' wife, who wishes to give excuses for her weight gain even if her husband is trying to support her to get into a diet. You have no idea what people with obesity problems feel or think and your comment is unflattering to YOU. Look at Oprah Winfrey just for an expedient illustration. With all her money and all the incentive in the world to keep off the weight she lost, it came back and made what was I'm sure very uncomfortable tabloid newspaper headlines. No one who does not have recurrent obesity problem has any business generalizing about people who do "not caring about how they look". I know how it is to suffer the embarrassment of getting big and answering doofuses who would say "so, you're putting on weight, huh"? No one in their right mind "puts on" weight. It happens because some people don't have a natural "off switch" that makes them indifferent to food where eating becomes something you have to force yourself to do. Can you imagine having a major system in your body like your autonomic breathing function not work and the only way to stay alive was to consciously control every breath? Well a person with a compulsive eating disorder can fight really hard to win a battle over an impulse, But no more than a minute later they are back with the same impulse over-taking them. That's how it can be ALLL THE TIME. And most everyone cares about how they look--they just have a compulsion that knocks every other thought out of their heads just like a dope addict who is about to get that satisfaction of his or her drug of choice. You don't have to like, admire, or otherwise favor obese persons, just at least try not to insult them while patting yourself on the back for something that comes easy and natural for you. Here's a fact you are clearly unaware of: I DO KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE OVERWEIGHT. I used to be out of shape myself. When I was 23, I became depressed. I stopped caring about my weight, diet, and overall looks. I ate pizza at 9am, Taco Bell at 11:30 am, Macaroni and cheese at 5pm, and buffalo wings at 10 pm. I might have other snacks and maybe some fruit and salad in there somewhere sometimes. I could no longer zip up my pants, you could see my man-boobs through a thick sweater, and I could sweat like nobodies business. And yes, I did hear the idiots who said, "Wow. You've gotten bigger." When it came to the point where I couldn't walk without my thighs rubbing against one another, I finally decided to change my life. So think twice before you say I don't know what it's like to be overweight. My argument still stands: weight gain is a sign of depression and not caring about your looks. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Bodytypes is a myth. Please stop spreading poor information. also. Lovely "I know you are but what am i" response at the end. Prove you are educated. what are your daily cals & macro's. If you can't answer that off the top of your head then you are not educated. I weigh & measure everything I eat every day & it takes very little effort to do. You are spreading bad advice/information & need to stop. Boydtypes are a myth? So everyone is exactly the same body type? Some people aren't naturally slender where being thin comes more easy? While others have a harder time getting the weight off? People don't have different muscle capabilities? We could all be the next Micheal Phelps with the right training? Come on. You can't seriously believe that. It's like claiming that everyone can be Albert Einstein with minimal effort. Not everyone has those capabilties. Not everyone is of the same intellgence. And not because they are lazy or stupid. Just because people are different. Some people are better at math. Some people have naturally slimmer or chunkier build. This does not justify being grossly over weight. As I have said have a dozen times and you have ignored. But that doesn't mean it's easy for everyone or that everyone is capable of having the same body type just because it's easy for you. You need to stop spreading bad advice/information. I said to you earlier, "Please read more information on health and body". Then you shot back your nonsense telling me how uneducated I am and then resorted to childish claims of "I know you are but what am I," comments. Which I hardly see have anything to do with what we are talking about here. If you know you are right, then YOU prove it. Show me the information that backs up your claims. You are not so special that you get to make claims without research to back it up. If you can produce the information, great. Lets see it. Your specific calorie intake will not help this conversation. Since we are not specifically only talking about you or what your body is capable of. And to show you that I am subject to the same rules, here are some sites that prove what I am saying: Website: Does Everyone's Metabolism Metabolize Calories At The Same Rate? | LIVESTRONG.COM Website: What is Metabolism and Why is it Important? Specific Information from website: Does Genetics Play a Role in Metabolism? Yes it does. Everyone has a different bone structure and body type (mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph or combination). It is not realistic to think that everyone can look like the Baywatch beauties or like Arnold Schwartzenagger. However, given your body type and genetic make-up, you can exercise (with weights and aerobically) to look the best that you can. Notice that body types are medically explained as mesomorph, extomorph, endomorph and a combination of those! Hence, "body types" do exist and are recongnized by the medical community. I Never Gained Weight Until I Reached 30, What Happened? After the age of 30, your body gradually begins to lose it's muscle. If your activity level stays the same and the amount of calories you eat stay the same, you will gain weight because your metabolism has slowed down (you don't have as much muscle as you did in your 20's). If you exercise with weights and do some type of aerobic activity on a regular basis, you probably won't notice much of a change in your metabolism as you age. Proving that using weight training and exercise are important for most people. Especially over a certain age. Website: Body Types: The Ectomorph, Endomorph and Mesomorph These body types are more commonly known as Apples and pears and other names. Here is a website about how women store fat differently then men: Why Do Women Store Fat Differently From Men? And despite this scientific information, women are held to higher standards and more strict ideals about being thin! Here is another site: Learn why women carry more fat than men Women have to work harder to be thin and have muscle tone then men do! Perhaps men should try appreciating us as women instead of what men wish we were through over idealized versions they see in media. Now it's your turn. Can you disprove this information? Go for it. If you want to educate, educate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Okay. If that's the case, something can be arranged. If a man wants his wife to lose weight after the pregnancy, he should be doing whatever he can to help her do this. He can hire someone to help. Or he can even take over the responsibilities of raising the child himself. If a guy wants his wife to be thin, he should be willing to go the extra mile so she can have time to get in shape. Hopefully, he doesn't have a woman like phineas' wife, who wishes to give excuses for her weight gain even if her husband is trying to support her to get into a diet. WARNING: This kind of thinking is highly likely to backfire. I understand a man wanting his wife to be thin, and women wanting their husbands to have a fit body. There is nothing wrong with it. But when a person is dealing (or not dealing) with a weight gain, if there is an emotional component to it, pressure from a loved one in the form of "wanting a thin wife" or "supporting her to get to a diet" can really backfire. Food and how we use it represents a LOT more than fuel and the body that the food results in for many people. It's a very loaded issue. I ate pizza at 9am, Taco Bell at 11:30 am, Macaroni and cheese at 5pm, and buffalo wings at 10 pm. I might have other snacks and maybe some fruit and salad in there somewhere sometimes. Be right back, I'm going out for a morning pizza. You made me really hungry! Link to post Share on other sites
Author gotye Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Read first few sentences, don't need to read any more. You are just simply ignorant and your excuses make my brain hurt. I lost 100lbs hunny. I didn't starve myself & I didn't spend hrs in the gym. I know what i'm talking about. you don't. Come to me when you are ready to be educated & LISTEN to what people who actually know what their talking about tell you. your bodies are not the same, she says she knows what works for her Edited March 31, 2012 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Unnecessary and personal Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) your bodies are not the same, she says she knows what works for her Like I said before, if you want your woman to lose weight, you better be willing to step up and help her lose weight. That includes paying for gym membership, eating healthy and exercising with her, encouraging her, etc. I wouldn't be so quickly to jump on phineas though. There are many women like his ex. They have a lot of time and encouragement to lose weight but have a plethora of excuses. I'm sure it would be frustrating to be with a woman like that. Edited March 31, 2012 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Edited quote Link to post Share on other sites
carhill Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 If the amount of money the guy made was a big part of the lifestyle they lived as a couple, then I don't see why the woman couldn't dump the guy for taking on a less lucrative job. Yes, this (taking the 'less lucrative' job of caregiving with a 'pay cut' from normal business income) was the primary disclosed reason my exW divorced me. It may or may not have been the real reason. She maintained her 'fatness' to varying degrees throughout our M and it wasn't an issue for me either then or while dating. Each of us has a unique relationship 'style' and, for those who closely relate 'fatness' or 'thinness' with attraction, that style could impact their perception if a partner changes in such a way. Another compatibility canary. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Gaining weight is not always a result of depression and not caring about looks, I assure you. I was a SKINNY girl. Really skinny. I hated it. So, that was me. I ate a LOT. Later … I got older. My metabolism changed. My relationship with food didn't. I gained weight. Yes, I realized it was happening, but I didn't jump right on it. I had developed my eating habits over decades. Then I started to feel a sense of shame and kind of denial. I would not weigh myself. I still felt like I looked pretty good. I didn't want to give up my freedom of eating whatever I wanted whenever I wanted. I wasn't ready to. There is a lot more in that story; I did stop abusing substances AND smoking in those years, and food became a good stand-in for those things. I was in a bad car accident and could not continue with my dancing (I was in classes / rehearsals or performing constantly and burning off tons of calories, plus REALLY conscious of my body). It took me a long time to figure out alternative exercise that I didn't HATE. Anyway, I did not become obese, but I experienced many things around the complicated relationship I have with food. I really needed to come to terms with all that on MY OWN TERMS. Having a husband who "wanted a thin wife" would probably have driven me in the opposite direction. I can't really explain why, but pressure from the outside does not seem to help people lose weight. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) your bodies are not the same, she says she knows what works for her But it isn't working for her if she's complaining so much about it now can it? Edited March 31, 2012 by a LoveShack.org Moderator Edited quote Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Boydtypes are a myth? So everyone is exactly the same body type? Some people aren't naturally slender where being thin comes more easy? While others have a harder time getting the weight off? People don't have different muscle capabilities? We could all be the next Micheal Phelps with the right training? Come on. You can't seriously believe that. It's like claiming that everyone can be Albert Einstein with minimal effort. Not everyone has those capabilties. Not everyone is of the same intellgence. And not because they are lazy or stupid. Just because people are different. Some people are better at math. Some people have naturally slimmer or chunkier build. This does not justify being grossly over weight. As I have said have a dozen times and you have ignored. But that doesn't mean it's easy for everyone or that everyone is capable of having the same body type just because it's easy for you. You need to stop spreading bad advice/information. I said to you earlier, "Please read more information on health and body". Then you shot back your nonsense telling me how uneducated I am and then resorted to childish claims of "I know you are but what am I," comments. Which I hardly see have anything to do with what we are talking about here. If you know you are right, then YOU prove it. Show me the information that backs up your claims. You are not so special that you get to make claims without research to back it up. If you can produce the information, great. Lets see it. Your specific calorie intake will not help this conversation. Since we are not specifically only talking about you or what your body is capable of. And to show you that I am subject to the same rules, here are some sites that prove what I am saying: Website: Does Everyone's Metabolism Metabolize Calories At The Same Rate? | LIVESTRONG.COM Website: What is Metabolism and Why is it Important? Specific Information from website: Notice that body types are medically explained as mesomorph, extomorph, endomorph and a combination of those! Hence, "body types" do exist and are recongnized by the medical community. Proving that using weight training and exercise are important for most people. Especially over a certain age. Website: Body Types: The Ectomorph, Endomorph and Mesomorph These body types are more commonly known as Apples and pears and other names. Here is a website about how women store fat differently then men: Why Do Women Store Fat Differently From Men? And despite this scientific information, women are held to higher standards and more strict ideals about being thin! Here is another site: Learn why women carry more fat than men Women have to work harder to be thin and have muscle tone then men do! Perhaps men should try appreciating us as women instead of what men wish we were through over idealized versions they see in media. Now it's your turn. Can you disprove this information? Go for it. If you want to educate, educate. Just one big straw-man post. You aren't even arguing against what I claimed. which was calories in = calories out. If you eat more calories than your body burns you get fat. Not single one of those articles claims you can eat at a deficit & gain fat. If even one of those does, quote it for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 But it isn't working for her if she's complaining so much about it now can it? Huh? What isn't working for me? I know that I have to eat right AND exercise. And that I need to do weight training because I do not have a natural muscle mass. My one girlfriend doesn't ever have to go to the gym and she has natural muscle tone. I don't. But I am only human and maintaining my weight takes a lot of time and effort. Things I don't always have the time and energy for. I was never obese but I was chubby in high school. I lost that weight in my early 20s. But it took me a long time. I got a lot more attention when I was at my lowest weight. And when I gained some of it back, I got less attention. Life happens. I don't always have the time or energy to dedicate to exercise. But I do what I can. If yo looked at me, you wouldn't think I spent so much time at the gym. But I do. And I sweat for it. Not everyone is blessed with a natural good looking body. I know I can not just eat right to get by.My brother and I came from the same parents! He could eat huge amounts of food and still be thin. I ate 1/10th of what he ate and still was chubby. So don't tell me people don't have different body types. Link to post Share on other sites
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Just one big straw-man post. You aren't even arguing against what I claimed. which was calories in = calories out. If you eat more calories than your body burns you get fat. Not single one of those articles claims you can eat at a deficit & gain fat. If even one of those does, quote it for me. You don't play fair. And you aren't interested in a discussion or real facts. You asked for proof about the things I was takling about, I gave it. I have given you the information. People can read for themselves and see the truth. Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 You don't play fair. And you aren't interested in a discussion or real facts. You asked for proof about the things I was takling about, I gave it. I have given you the information. People can read for themselves and see the truth. Hunny, I have always maintained in this thread that if you eat too much you get fat. If you eat at deficit you loose weight. It's up to each person to put in the effort to determine what those values are. you obviously don't want to do that. Instead, you post a bunch of unrelated articles that don't address caloric intake that I can see & claim i'm not playing fair or don't want to discuss the facts. The facts are if you eat more than your body burns you get fat. Period. Or are you going to claim all the rescued victims of concentration camps during WW2 were ectomorphs? Or that ectomorphs only existed 60yrs ago when the average weight for a person in this country was 25lbs lighter? Americans Getting Taller, Bigger, Fatter, Says CDC You are the one who doesn't want to discuss the facts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
phineas Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Huh? What isn't working for me? I know that I have to eat right AND exercise. And that I need to do weight training because I do not have a natural muscle mass. My one girlfriend doesn't ever have to go to the gym and she has natural muscle tone. I don't. But I am only human and maintaining my weight takes a lot of time and effort. Things I don't always have the time and energy for. I was never obese but I was chubby in high school. I lost that weight in my early 20s. But it took me a long time. I got a lot more attention when I was at my lowest weight. And when I gained some of it back, I got less attention. Life happens. I don't always have the time or energy to dedicate to exercise. But I do what I can. If yo looked at me, you wouldn't think I spent so much time at the gym. But I do. And I sweat for it. Not everyone is blessed with a natural good looking body. I know I can not just eat right to get by.My brother and I came from the same parents! He could eat huge amounts of food and still be thin. I ate 1/10th of what he ate and still was chubby. So don't tell me people don't have different body types. Unless you are counting calories (measuring & weighing food) you can't honestly make any legitimate claims about what you eat at all. People eat way more than they think. It's why they don't loose weight. Link to post Share on other sites
dasein Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 If you are angry and bitter over a female partner that gains weight, then perhaps committed relationships aren't for you. If someone lets themself go in a relationship, and I don't think anyone in the thread is talking about mild weight gain, 5 or 10 pounds, as "getting fat," then they don't deserve to have a relationship, because they don't respect the relationship or their partner enough. Women do have more fat on average, and the standards of attractiveness are adjusted accordingly, so the mere fact that women have more fat on their bodies generally is irrelevant. Partners who let themselves go in a relationship don't deserve for that relationship to continue. Having a partner maintain whatever appearance they had at the start to a reasonable degree is just not that high an expectation, rather low actually. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Here is a website about how women store fat differently then men: Why Do Women Store Fat Differently From Men? And despite this scientific information, women are held to higher standards and more strict ideals about being thin! Here is another site: Learn why women carry more fat than men Women have to work harder to be thin and have muscle tone then men do! Perhaps men should try appreciating us as women instead of what men wish we were through over idealized versions they see in media. Now it's your turn. Can you disprove this information? Go for it. If you want to educate, educate. These links explain how women manage to keep higher levels of fat despite exercising as much as men. I disagree that women are held to higher standards of thinness than men. A woman with a fat percentage as low as a healthy man would not be very attractive to men. Men are attracted to women with healthy levels of fat for a women. What the links don't explain is why women (and men) are getting fatter on the whole with each decade. Link to post Share on other sites
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Do you have any cake? Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I understand that women's bodies change, and the fat can redistribute after pregnancy. I've experienced that What I am asking is, is there a medical reason that it is harder for women to lose weight after pregnancy than before? Well right off the bat, women can develop post partum depression. So on top of the lifestyle changes (less sleep, less time to eat) that come with a toddler, new mothers may have mental issues to deal with, which can be very very very hard to overcome. Most anti-depressants have a side effect of weight gain. So, fix one problem, give yourself another. Add stress to the lifestyle change, which has a strong relationship to gaining weight, and you've got a very big mess. The research also suggests that women's hormones drastically shift after pregnancy. During pregnancy, women's bodies actually grow new fat cells in order to prepare for labor and breast feeding. So, if you're a body type (Endomorphic) that doesn't lose weight easily, you may now have ADDITIONAL weight to deal with. I've said it before and I'll say it again; science still has a very loose grip on how our bodies lose weight, and female hormones just complicate things even further. The human body is MADE to store fat. That is one of its primary purposes; women have to have a certain threshold of body fat to conceive, and their body actually CREATES fat during pregnancy. By putting up such an idealistic expectation (that all women will naturally be thin, never gain weight, and lose it immediately after pregnancy), we are actually working against nature, creating even more stress on our bodies. Link to post Share on other sites
xxoo Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Do you have any cake? No, sorry. But I did in fact have pizza for breakfast! Before it was even mentioned in the thread Link to post Share on other sites
verhrzn Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Unless you are counting calories (measuring & weighing food) you can't honestly make any legitimate claims about what you eat at all. People eat way more than they think. It's why they don't loose weight. I count calories, and exercise according to my BMI, and I'm not losing weight. Weight is NOT always an indicator of health. We all have different body types, that sometimes DO NOT want to lose weight. My body has stubbornly stayed in the 120-130 range no matter what I do or try. It'd be a lot more productive in society to stop focusing so much on WEIGHT, and focus on HEALTH instead. Link to post Share on other sites
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