Woggle Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I have been thinking about it and I think the reason there is so much animosity between the genders these days is because both men and women feel powerless and like to think that the other gender is just living the good life while they struggle. The grass always looks greener on the other side and it causes a load of resentment.
threebyfate Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Missing Kei$ha and Nickelback? The need for power is the overarching problem within intrapersonal interactions. Power is the manifestation of fear and insecurity in their most corrupt form.
phineas Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I really only see animosity between genders on this message board. I hardly ever see it in my day to day life. 8
january2011 Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I really only see animosity between genders on this message board. I hardly ever see it in my day to day life. I see a lot on message boards and some in my daily life. It could be about power. In my experience, that seems most evident in the workplace but not necessarily in one's personal life. Though it does depend a lot on location and culture.
MrCastle Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 surely though this is understandable? people use forums to vent, to open debates that attract people of varying beliefs, and sadly sometimes, to troll i know when something good happens to me, women wise, my initial thought is not to post on a forum about it. i'm out enjoying my life. but when something bad happens i'm like baaah, women suck. who else can relate to the problems i'm going through? and i look to forums to either vent or to see if other people agree with what i feel 1
Star Gazer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 If you're looking at relationships as a measure of "power" or trying to have "power," you'll never be happy. The notion of "power" has no place in a healthy relationship.
Saxis Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I think people just make this sh*t more complicated than it actually is... Easier to blame the opposite gender than to admit failure and ignorance. 3
Author Woggle Posted March 27, 2012 Author Posted March 27, 2012 Missing Kei$ha and Nickelback? The need for power is the overarching problem within intrapersonal interactions. Power is the manifestation of fear and insecurity in their most corrupt form. I am not slamming women. I am saying this about both genders. We live in a society with a lot of angry people who feel that life is not fair and when you look at somebody else it is easy to point the finger. Also add to the fact that the media in many ways promotes the gender wars and you have the animosity you see today.
phineas Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I see a lot on message boards and some in my daily life. It could be about power. In my experience, that seems most evident in the workplace but not necessarily in one's personal life. Though it does depend a lot on location and culture. In my workplace women out number the men in the cubicles & the offices. At the top of the food chain there is a woman. If I see anything it's how catty the women are to each other in the workplace. It's hell having to listen to it.
ThaWholigan Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Interesting, I don't feel powerless at all. In fact, I believe that when it comes to relating with women, my personal power is such that I won't feel the need to partake in any power games that people play, as I rarely do. 4
El Brujo Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 I don't feel powerless at all either. To be surrounded by stupid games and half-assed temptation, and to not fall for any of it... hey, man, THAT'S some POWER. 1
threebyfate Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 I am not slamming women. I am saying this about both genders. We live in a society with a lot of angry people who feel that life is not fair and when you look at somebody else it is easy to point the finger. Also add to the fact that the media in many ways promotes the gender wars and you have the animosity you see today.The gender wars in real life are usually a form of flirtatious entertainment between couples. Didn't realise misogyny still existed until I experienced it on LS. This tells me quite clearly that like draws like, since LS does nothing to disband or dissuade misogyny. In doing nothing, it enables more to flock, turning this place from the community it once was, into one of the armpits of the Internet. 1
Feelsgoodman Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 The gender wars in real life are usually a form of flirtatious entertainment between couples. Gender wars in real life are fought in the court rooms. You should check it out sometimes...court hearings are open to the public. The male gender is losing this war in a big way, which is why many men are deserting the battlefield by skipping on marriage and commitment.
johan Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 I don't feel powerless. On Sunday I was driving the ball over 270 yards. And today, after only 2 weeks back running, after waiting for months for a stress fracture to heal, I ran 3 miles at 7:44/mile. I can hear the last cylinder coming to life.
Jane2011 Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 I don't feel powerless. I feel pretty powerful, actually. I mean, relatively. Also, I don't have the notion that men have it easy. I think they have it hard, actually. 1
threebyfate Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Gender wars in real life are fought in the court rooms. You should check it out sometimes...court hearings are open to the public. The male gender is losing this war in a big way, which is why many men are deserting the battlefield by skipping on marriage and commitment.All this is irrelevant to me since I'm in a non-traditional marriage. If men want a traditional SAHM, better be prepared to pay the traditional consequences, if your marriage doesn't work out. 1
RedRobin Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Here's the answer to your question, Woggle. Just found this on another thread... hilarious... 5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com
ScreamingTrees Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 All this is irrelevant to me since I'm in a non-traditional marriage. If men want a traditional SAHM, better be prepared to pay the traditional consequences, if your marriage doesn't work out. I'm not attacking you, but is a non-traditional marriage not really a marriage in the sense that it isn't really a union between two people? Or is it just the same thing but not a legalized thing for you and your partner? What exactly does your non-traditional marriage entail? Is that code-word for polyamorous? (I kid, I kid)
threebyfate Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 I'm not attacking you, but is a non-traditional marriage not really a marriage in the sense that it isn't really a union between two people? Or is it just the same thing but not a legalized thing for you and your partner? What exactly does your non-traditional marriage entail? Is that code-word for polyamorous? (I kid, I kid)We're both working and have a post-nup. This ensures that neither gets fragged, if our marriage doesn't last forever. This doesn't mean that all non-traditional marriages are the same. It just means that it's a marriage that's not based on the traditional guidelines of the man working and the woman staying at home to cook, clean and breed.
ScreamingTrees Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 We're both working and have a post-nup. This ensures that neither gets fragged, if our marriage doesn't last forever. This doesn't mean that all non-traditional marriages are the same. It just means that it's a marriage that's not based on the traditional guidelines of the man working and the woman staying at home to cook, clean and breed. Well, I only mentioned the polyamorous because the thread popped up. I understand, though, and it's cool. I think most marriages should be that way, so that NEITHER person, male or female, could intentionally get with someone just to leech off of them. There'd be no alterior motives for being togeher.. I don't know who would do the whole leech thing, male or female, but apparently some people do, so whatever.
threebyfate Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 Well, I only mentioned the polyamorous because the thread popped up. I understand, though, and it's cool. I think most marriages should be that way, so that NEITHER person, male or female, could intentionally get with someone just to leech off of them. There'd be no alterior motives for being togeher.. I don't know who would do the whole leech thing, male or female, but apparently some people do, so whatever.This is the issue. That male rightists enjoy the comforts of having the built in free domestic labour/sex partner/child minder who gives up her working years to take care of everything and everyone besides herself, then they scream bloody murder when they find they have to pay to support her post divorce. Hello? Woman has no employable skills since she gave up her career years to raise a family and take care of all the man's domestic needs. 1
ScreamingTrees Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 This is the issue. That male rightists enjoy the comforts of having the built in free domestic labour/sex partner/child minder who gives up her working years to take care of everything and everyone besides herself, then they scream bloody murder when they find they have to pay to support her post divorce. Hello? Woman has no employable skills since she gave up her career years to raise a family and take care of all the man's domestic needs. While I don't believe that I would ultimately end up with someone who will leave me, as I hope to make sure that it's something that can last (unaccounting for any supernatural incidents. lol).. I definitely would have no problem paying for a child s'long as it IS going towards the child and not used irresponsibly, but if we had a child, I'd want us both to be equally involved and I wouldn't want her to give up her job. It's all difficult to figure out, but I'm sure many couples make it work as best as they can, and I'm sure I can do the same someday when I'm in that situation.
sLiPpeTh Posted March 28, 2012 Posted March 28, 2012 This is the issue. That male rightists enjoy the comforts of having the built in free domestic labour/sex partner/child minder who gives up her working years to take care of everything and everyone besides herself, then they scream bloody murder when they find they have to pay to support her post divorce. Hello? Woman has no employable skills since she gave up her career years to raise a family and take care of all the man's domestic needs. A woman taking care of all of a man's domestic needs? Holy cow. 1
Author Woggle Posted March 28, 2012 Author Posted March 28, 2012 The gender wars in real life are usually a form of flirtatious entertainment between couples. Didn't realise misogyny still existed until I experienced it on LS. This tells me quite clearly that like draws like, since LS does nothing to disband or dissuade misogyny. In doing nothing, it enables more to flock, turning this place from the community it once was, into one of the armpits of the Internet. I don't think there is any kind of good natured teasing in the kinds of gender wars you see these days. I agree that misogyny is very much alive and well but so is misandry. There is enough to go around to everybody.
Author Woggle Posted March 28, 2012 Author Posted March 28, 2012 Here's the answer to your question, Woggle. Just found this on another thread... hilarious... 5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com The same kind of last can be made the other way.
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