Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I know but it seems like these past few weeks I have seen several threads where women ask why men are so afraid to approach and then I see this thread. It is very contradictory. As somebody else already said, and you know all by yourself anyway (because it's common sense), threads are started and participated in by MANY different people. And THIS thread was started to scoff at women who might feel "scared" if they feel stalked; also to then accuse the "scared" women of being full of themselves, too. We've all ended up talking about guys who do watch, stalk, lurk, spy, follow - but really, it's about the women who are on the receiving end. And the bottom line is, if it makes them feel scared or even uncomfortable, that's the way it makes them feel and that's what they have to react to. No, they don't have to wait around to find out whether the guy might actually do something bad. It has ZERO to do with what you're talking about. Why are you thread jacking, anyway? Not enough attention? 1
Badsingularity Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) This thread reminds me of something that happened to me a while back. I was headed to the store to do some shopping and my GF called me as I was pulling in the parking lot, so I decided to talk to her for a couple of minutes before I went into the store. So I'm sitting in my car talking to her and a woman comes up to her car that is parked in front of mine. She starts to get in her car and then stops and stares at me with a crazy scared look on her face. I tell my GF that she's doing this and it's realy starting to creep me out. Finally she gets in her car and leaves. About 30 seconds later the store security pulls up and asks me what I'm doing. I say I'm talking to my GF on the phone and then I was going to go in and shop. I had only been in the parking lot for about 10 minutes by this point. Security tells me I need to go in and shop or leave. Apparently the woman who creeped ME out and stared at ME went and told them I was dangerous or something. All the while I was just talking to my GF on the phone. Crazy. So I do think that there are a very small minority of women out there that think all men are dangerous and out to get them. I say small minority, because most women when they see me just want to get closer. Edited March 27, 2012 by Badsingularity
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 So I do think that there are a very small minority of women out there that think all men are dangerous and out to get them. There are definitely paranoid women who think all men are out to get them. I think the point has been well made on this thread by both men and women, though, that most women who are NOT paranoid nutcases do, indeed, find it to be anywhere from creepy to threatening to realize that they are being watched, followed, stalked, spied upon, or any combination of these by a strange man. Even if he's "hot."
Badsingularity Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I think the point has been well made on this thread by both men and women, though, that most women who are NOT paranoid nutcases do, indeed, find it to be anywhere from creepy to threatening to realize that they are being watched, followed, stalked, spied upon, or any combination of these by a strange man. Even if he's "hot." I agree. My GF complains about it all the time. Guys should either politely approach or just admire for a few seconds and then go about their business.
Quiet Storm Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) If you hate men looking at you, why did you marry? Didn't your husband watch you and approach before becoming your husband? Think about it. Another thing: why does a man have to be tall to qualify as a protector? I disagree with that statement as it's rather ridiculous. I'm a short guy at 5'6 but can and have protected my women from men of any size. I don't hate being looked at. I just don't like been stared at by strangers. My husband came up to me and started talking to me. He made me feel comfortable, not stalked. I love when my husband looks at my body. Short men may be physically capable of taking on some tall guys, I agree with that. But their presence isn't as imposing. Why are bouncers big? Why are bodyguards big? Because their size alone can deter trouble, regardless of their ability to fight. Edited March 27, 2012 by Quiet Storm
Cracker Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 But eye contact is NOT the same as "watching" a woman. Well, that makes me feel a bit better. I thought I was going to have to avoid looking at women whenever I was out:laugh:
Dust Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Well, that makes me feel a bit better. I thought I was going to have to avoid looking at women whenever I was out:laugh: You're the exact kind of weak (when it comes to this topic) man who shouldn't even listen to women speak about their insecurites. In fact if you're the right guy women love being watched. Also watching a woman will get your blood pumped making you more likely to do something appropriate like ask her out then if you only look at her quickly then look a way. Also what kind of mind set is it to ask a girl out if you are always worried about them. You need to just relax girls hate a guy who is alway like "are you ok" and etc. Just be yourself dude. All this being scared of men may or may not be in their benefit. It certainly has zero benefit to you. 2
Cracker Jack Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I was sorta exaggerating there:cool: But I agree with you. I think too much sometimes. And when I read a topic like this, I start to question myself on stupid things. It's a bad habit I need to get rid of. Thanks for the post, bro.
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I don't hate being looked at. I just don't like been stared at by strangers. My husband came up to me and started talking to me. He made me feel comfortable, not stalked. I love when my husband looks at my body. Short men may be physically capable of taking on some tall guys, I agree with that. But their presence isn't as imposing. Why are bouncers big? Why are bodyguards big? Because their size alone can deter trouble, regardless of their ability to fight. Bouncers can be tall, but they aren't all. The ones I know are average and sometimes short, with a couple of exceptions, but stocky/muscular. Being tall doesn't make you imposing or scary. I know a 5'4 guy whose mixed up in drugs but is pretty stocky with no neck, whose far more threatening and imposing than any tall guy I've ever met. I've yet to see him lose a fight, against tall or short. Hopefully one day you will walk around in the neighborhood he likes to cause havoc in with your husband, and he will show you how impotent all the soft, pudgy tall oafs women call "big" or "imposing" really are when faced with someone that has nothing to lose. I cross my fingers he will then take you using your invincible-just-because-he's-tall husband as a mattress, cause he could be good for that .
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Hey Quiet Storm, maybe men stopped staring at you because you popped out a few kids and no longer are attractive? I have been out with women and I'm omg "only" 5'8, men don't start at them when I'm around. Does that mean I'm imposing and have a superhero aura too?
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Are you a man or woman? I'm a man who wants to empower women with equality. Equal accountability for men and women , instead of the Vagina Supremacy Syndicate telling me its "just a prefence" and not insane for a 4'9 woman to refuse to date a guy who is 5'9 instead of 5'10 no matter what other factors, but calling me a hypocrite when I say I would prefer to date a woman who is 29 over a woman who is 30, although I'm 35.
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Equal accountability for men and women , instead of the Vagina Supremacy Syndicate telling me its "just a prefence" and not insane for a 4'9 woman to refuse to date a guy who is 5'9 instead of 5'10 no matter what other factors, but calling me a hypocrite when I say I would prefer to date a woman who is 29 over a woman who is 30, although I'm 35. Haha. Do you really think that the concept of "accountability" is applicable to who prefers what qualities in their potential dates? Nobody has to be "accountable" for their preferences, except insofar as they need to accept that adhering to them might render them alone for longer than discarding them would. Prefer away. No one cares if you want to date 29 year olds and not 30 year olds. Really, though, you aren't dating anyone at all, are you.
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Haha. Do you really think that the concept of "accountability" is applicable to who prefers what qualities in their potential dates? Nobody has to be "accountable" for their preferences, except insofar as they need to accept that adhering to them might render them alone for longer than discarding them would. Prefer away. No one cares if you want to date 29 year olds and not 30 year olds. Really, though, you aren't dating anyone at all, are you. Well look who it is, the ice queen of all the she-pocrites. Just a few threads back, you were whining incessantly and took it personally that some poster thought women over 50 with bad plastic surgery weren't attractive. You may not care, since you're old and know most men are not nearly as moronic as women to have such a petty and stringent "preference", but a lot of women in that thread were getting angry and wanted to lynch me! No one has the right to be called stupid or shallow... as long as they're women. That's what I meant by accountability, if you're a stupid and shallow woman, you get off easy. If you're a boobyman, an equivalent to the billions of tall-men-are-all-superheroes women, always talking about how amazing huge tits are, how you can only date women with huge tits, etc you are called all kinds of names and told you see women only as sexual objects by the likes of you. And that's considering the big boobs thing is really just some men, not a virtually universal preference like women for tall men.
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 ^^^^ What a load of incoherent crap. I have NO problem with ANYONE'S preferences. Sometimes I take issue with people here on LS who are complaining ad infinitum about being alone, when their preferences are so specific or unrealistic that they ensure the person will always be alone. Otherwise, have at it. I have my preferences too. Also, I NEVER whine. 1
Woggle Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 So it is okay to go up and talk to a woman but not stare at her and stalk her? This makes sense to me. 4
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 ^^^^ What a load of incoherent crap. I have NO problem with ANYONE'S preferences. Sometimes I take issue with people here on LS who are complaining ad infinitum about being alone, when their preferences are so specific or unrealistic that they ensure the person will always be alone. Otherwise, have at it. I have my preferences too. Also, I NEVER whine. Yadda , yadda yadda, "It's ok when I do it" is all you just said. You do whine. Somedude posted something about a deformed, 50 year old with really bad plastic surgery, and you immediatly jumped up in offense to inform him you are part of that group, asking him how it was fair to judge people on soulless decisions they make like getting plastic surgery or being old. Point is, you tell someone that them having a preference is stupid (despite some dudes preferences being far more logical and less obsessive/psychotic than a 5'2 woman who demands a 6'2 man, as is all too common) , not that they can't have it. I don't tell anyone that they can't have a preference, merely that they are shallow, empty and symptoms of the matriarchal and ever-decaying modern world. 1
FrustratedStandards Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 It's not scary, at least not for me, but it does make me feel uncomfortable. I mean, you got your look. Why are you still staring? Truthfully, and I know this is the wrong reaction, but usually I just want to punch them in the face. I don't mind if you look, but if you STARE? No. I just... no. I cannot.
Woggle Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 It's not scary, at least not for me, but it does make me feel uncomfortable. I mean, you got your look. Why are you still staring? Truthfully, and I know this is the wrong reaction, but usually I just want to punch them in the face. I don't mind if you look, but if you STARE? No. I just... no. I cannot. It looks like at least you now have the answer to the question in your thread. 1
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Yadda , yadda yadda, "It's ok when I do it" is all you just said. No, it's not. But I accept that you have very poor reading comprehension. You do whine. Somedude posted something about a deformed, 50 year old with really bad plastic surgery, and you immediatly jumped up in offense to inform him you are part of that group, asking him how it was fair to judge people on soulless decisions they make like getting plastic surgery or being old. Or, like the soulless decisions you've made, like being a shorty. Point is, you tell someone that them having a preference is stupid (despite some dudes preferences being far more logical and less obsessive/psychotic than a 5'2 woman who demands a 6'2 man, as is all too common) , not that they can't have it. I don't tell anyone that they can't have a preference, merely that they are shallow, empty and symptoms of the matriarchal and ever-decaying modern world. I don't have any problems with somedude's preferences, and I have not said that I have a problem with them. I also have no problem with the preferences of women who like to date tall men, or men who only want to date women with giant boobs. You, my tiny little pissant, are not a symptom of the "ever-decaying modern world." You are the decay itself. I just scraped you off my shoe before I came through the door of my beautiful home.
FrustratedStandards Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 I'm a man who wants to empower women with equality. Yup, by calling women b*tchy cunts who should appreciate that men "tolerate" them. Enjoy these insane times, Frustrated Standards, this is the only epoch in human history where men have actually tolerated the attitudes of the cunts in your generation and down. 1
udolipixie Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 (edited) I've come to discover that women speak in several languages, Quite interesting if took you this long to realize women are human beings with different tastes. none here meaning one or the other, but in fact something entirely different, so I'm not about to take what's stated by you girls too seriously. Inserting women vary so it's not serious when one says something. Edited March 27, 2012 by udolipixie
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Shaun-Dro I've come to discover that women speak in several languages, Brilliant! Men can be multi lingual too!
FrustratedStandards Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Originally Posted by Shaun-Dro Brilliant! Men can be multi lingual too! Allow me to pull a Sheldon Polyglot is the correct term.
EmpoweredWoman Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 No, it's not. But I accept that you have very poor reading comprehension. Or, like the soulless decisions you've made, like being a shorty. I don't have any problems with somedude's preferences, and I have not said that I have a problem with them. I also have no problem with the preferences of women who like to date tall men, or men who only want to date women with giant boobs. You, my tiny little pissant, are not a symptom of the "ever-decaying modern world." You are the decay itself. I just scraped you off my shoe before I came through the door of my beautiful home. Looky here SomeDude if you want to see the nature of women telling you it's just your personality 90% of this old windbags argument is "short jokes", for someone like me who isn't nor do I think I'm particularly short, neither do a lot of men actually; only women think that about me. Do you guys think, if I was 6'3, that she would make fun of me for being tall? No, of course not. It's the deep seated and shallow thoughts of women coming out with just one little poke (where I didn't make fun of their physical attributes like being old , fat or ugly, atleast not at first). Think about that next time these very same cunts brand you with the "women are infallible and never simply more superficial than men could ever imagine, you just lack confidence and it's all your fault". I don't expect anyone to date me if they don't like my height, but what really pushes me over the edge is the bitches who push all kinds of impossible theories of why women date who they date (IE the best looking or richest guy they can get, regardless of personality ((within reason)) that always lay the blame squarely on men. And we have to accept it, why? Because it helps them sleep at night and avoid the label "Shallow Bitch who sees men as nothing but height and money objects".
Quiet Storm Posted March 27, 2012 Posted March 27, 2012 Hopefully one day you will walk around in the neighborhood he likes to cause havoc in with your husband, and he will show you how impotent all the soft, pudgy tall oafs women call "big" or "imposing" really are when faced with someone that has nothing to lose. I cross my fingers he will then take you using your invincible-just-because-he's-tall husband as a mattress, cause he could be good for that Hey Quiet Storm, maybe men stopped staring at you because you popped out a few kids and no longer are attractive? I still get looks even at 35 with three kids because of my body type. I just don’t get stared at when my husband is with me. Men will still do the sideways glance, but not the full on stare. I don’t mind men looking, if they are respectful about it. I don’t want to get into the tall guy short guy debate. I know there are short Bruce Lee types that can kick tall man butt, okay? But in defense of my husband, he is not doughy. He’s not as cut, but his body reminds me of Ray Lewis. We take good care of ourselves , work out and eat right. And why would you hope that he gets beat up by a short guy? What did he ever do to you? As far as that goes, Baltimore isn't exaclty known for our safe streets, and we've made it this far, so I guess it's served me well. I don't have double standards. You will never see me complaining about men preferring younger or hotter women. I've even made posts defending men's porn use. It doesn't bother me if men have preferences. I accept that as I age, that my looks and sexual attractiveness will fade. It sucks but it's reality and there's nothing I can do about it, besides taking good care of myself. I'm not going to hate on younger, hotter women. I'm not going to hate men because of what they are attracted to, even if I don't meet that criteria.
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