Mme. Chaucer Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Have you seen the link I posted that has young and old pictures of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi etc? Yes. Your point? Is that all older women are ugly?
Author somedude81 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 Yes. Your point? Is that all older women are ugly? Nope, but I see how it can be taken that way. The fact of the matter is both men and women can change from good looking to not so good looking just from getting older.
jerbear Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 “Everything has its beauty, but not everyone sees it.” -Confucius
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Nope, but I see how it can be taken that way. The fact of the matter is both men and women can change from good looking to not so good looking just from getting older. I was just noting that you included women of over 50 in your "automatically ugly" group along with the druggies and plastic surgery victims. I think you're an ageist. Of course, I don't think that I (or any of my age peers) have the same qualities of beauty as young women do, but I certainly don't think that age has anything to do with being "UGLY."
Author somedude81 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 An ageist, oh boy. I'm not, and I'm not going to say anything beyond that. It's just not worth my time and energy.
Dust Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 An ageist, oh boy. I'm not, and I'm not going to say anything beyond that. It's just not worth my time and energy. You put yourself in this position by focusing so hard on all the people you don't want to date. I'm in my 20's and no I don't see myself dating some one 50+. Thing is I'm not going to go around calling them "ugly" because they're old in comparison to myself. You're mind is just working in this way that really can rub a lot of people the wrong way. When I see some one I wouldn't date I don't feel the need to take the analysis past "I'm not into them." In fact if I see an old lady on the street I don't even have to call her "ugly" to myself. For instance I saw an old lady hobbling down the street and thought "thats cute hope she doesn't fall" it never had to go into "god she's so old and ugly I would never date her." It's just you're insecurity that causes you to evaluate and focus on this subject. You're insecurity causes you to do things like write this thread that rub people the wrong way. You should focus on the things you do like instead of tearing down things you should just ignore. 2
Meeks7 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 You put yourself in this position by focusing so hard on all the people you don't want to date. I'm in my 20's and no I don't see myself dating some one 50+. Thing is I'm not going to go around calling them "ugly" because they're old in comparison to myself. You're mind is just working in this way that really can rub a lot of people the wrong way. When I see some one I wouldn't date I don't feel the need to take the analysis past "I'm not into them." In fact if I see an old lady on the street I don't even have to call her "ugly" to myself. For instance I saw an old lady hobbling down the street and thought "thats cute hope she doesn't fall" it never had to go into "god she's so old and ugly I would never date her." It's just you're insecurity that causes you to evaluate and focus on this subject. You're insecurity causes you to do things like write this thread that rub people the wrong way. You should focus on the things you do like instead of tearing down things you should just ignore. Agreed. OP needs to stop focusing so much of his energy on negativity. He's so bogged down by it that he's absolutely stuck in the thick of the mud. People have offered throwing a rope his way, but methinks he'd rather be comfortable in his rut than face the scary possibility of change.
zengirl Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Aww, this makes me feel a little sad. I do think that the innate skin disease that I suffer from, does preclude me from being physically attractive. I suppose that's why I have sympathy for the others who were equally precluded from birth. Interestingly, the guys whom I've been with did not seem to mind. Perhaps I was very lucky to land guys who aren't easily squicked, or are less superficial. Or perhaps it matters less than us women think it does, to men? I don't know. I don't know what the condition is, but I did say "With the right makeup and styling." Most skin conditions can be covered with GOOD makeup. FWIW, I have psoriasis, though I don't often have flareups anymore and they were always easy to cover up, so I can understand the feeling. When I was a little kid, I had really bad scalp psoriasis. That was the worst, but was luckily in control by HS. Wow. Are you 21 years old? No way. Maybe for the few women who develop early, but mid to late 20s I'd say is easily the peak period if not longer. Asian women and black women tend to look younger and can keep their peak looks until well into their late 30s. I'm 27. I think you didn't take away what I was actually saying, though. I don't disagree with any of that. I look better now at 27 than I did at 21 for sure. However, I think you get a wide variation at this age. I know 27 year olds who don't look as good as my Mom does in her 50s, to be honest, and 27 year olds who look hotter than any 21 year old. I think you just get a wider range outside of the age set I gave. In the age set given, you find a lot more common ground in the way women look, IMO. I wasn't actually intending to suggest it was the most attractive age range. My mother hit her peak in her mid 30s, as did many women I've seen age. I just think many women go in either direction in their mid20s. I'm not sure about men, but I'd imagine it's roughly similar, though perhaps slightly later.
gotye Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I have one friend who is very ugly... odd looking. she has a boyfriend and is intelligent, so who cares?
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) You put yourself in this position by focusing so hard on all the people you don't want to date. I'm in my 20's and no I don't see myself dating some one 50+. Thing is I'm not going to go around calling them "ugly" because they're old in comparison to myself. You're mind is just working in this way that really can rub a lot of people the wrong way. When I see some one I wouldn't date I don't feel the need to take the analysis past "I'm not into them." In fact if I see an old lady on the street I don't even have to call her "ugly" to myself. For instance I saw an old lady hobbling down the street and thought "thats cute hope she doesn't fall" it never had to go into "god she's so old and ugly I would never date her." It's just you're insecurity that causes you to evaluate and focus on this subject. You're insecurity causes you to do things like write this thread that rub people the wrong way. You should focus on the things you do like instead of tearing down things you should just ignore. That's what I'm saying. I am not offended or insulted about the OP classifying women over 50 in the "we all know they're ugly like plastic surgery disasters" department. I just think it's really weird and skewed. Actually, I think it's weird and skewed to make a thread about the quantity of ugly women in the world. In what way could that be pertinent to your life, somedude? Edited March 26, 2012 by Mme. Chaucer
xxoo Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 That's what I'm saying. I am not offended or insulted about the OP classifying women over 50 in the "we all know they're ugly like plastic surgery disasters" department. I just think it's really weird and skewed. I can't speak for sd, but I didn't take it that way. I took it as women under a certain age, with no drug habit or plastic surgery, are nearly all attractive by default. Not that women over a certain age are all unattractive by default. I agree that age can steal beauty from many, but certainly not all. 1
Author somedude81 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 I can't speak for sd, but I didn't take it that way. I took it as women under a certain age, with no drug habit or plastic surgery, are nearly all attractive by default. Not that women over a certain age are all unattractive by default. I agree that age can steal beauty from many, but certainly not all. That's exactly what I meant. Thanks xxoo. I didn't want to say it myself because somebody was bound to take offense. 1
reallyhotguy Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I can't speak for sd, but I didn't take it that way. I took it as women under a certain age, with no drug habit or plastic surgery, are nearly all attractive by default. Not that women over a certain age are all unattractive by default. I agree that age can steal beauty from many, but certainly not all. Couldn't you say the same about men, too? Except that the "certain age" is probably higher?
xxoo Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Couldn't you say the same about men, too? Except that the "certain age" is probably higher? Yes, the same is true for men--although I'm not sure the "certain age" is any higher. Life can be hard and take its toll, on men and women alike.
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