verhrzn Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 This is just yet another thread where the OP can convince himself that women have it better, the cards are stacked completely against men, etc. His argument ALWAYS comes back to "guys will date girls so long as they're not fat, but girls won't date perfectly decent guys, so pity us poor average guys." Even when presented with evidence of women being rejected due to their looks, and an actual ugly girl, he STILL refuses to see their side or express any empathy for them. It's all about how women are so lucky, because even when they're ugly, guys will date them. Ugh. 1
Ross MwcFan Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 In the UK it is really common to see a woman who most people would consider ugly, even though usually I'd personally still find them attractive.
xxoo Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Age does funny things to women AND men. Young Al Pacino - I would date him in a second Old Al Pacino - No longer datable Still hot to me! Marlon Brando young and old was startling, though.
jerbear Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 In the UK it is really common to see a woman who most people would consider ugly, even though usually I'd personally still find them attractive. If you find them attractive, you should say hi to them; especially when they are single.
verhrzn Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Women do have it better. I'm a 42 year old virgin and no female will touch me and no one has any sympathy. A 42 year old virgin female would have all the sympathy and help in the world. And I could find just as many women in that situation. I'm 27 years old and no man will touch me, either, unless he's really desperate. If you just want to get used for sex, go pay a prostitute, and you'll be able to feel what it's like for a woman who no one desires either. The lack of empathy on this board for ugly women and women who have trouble dating is disgusting to me.
Ross MwcFan Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 If you find them attractive, you should say hi to them; especially when they are single. I only see them when walking down the street or when I'm in the shops as I don't really socialise at the moment and I'm not working either. At least in the UK, saying hi to them in those situations would make me look like a weirdo.
jerbear Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 I only see them when walking down the street or when I'm in the shops as I don't really socialise at the moment and I'm not working either. At least in the UK, saying hi to them in those situations would make me look like a weirdo. Ahh! well it takes guts to be a weirdo and cold chat a person. If it is customary to not talk and be a weirdo, then break some conventions and say hi.
verhrzn Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Whes does no man will tough you unless they are desperate mean? No woman will tough me desperate or non desperate. What does desperate mean? I can't even get the ugliest females. They put me aside. If a desperate man will sleep with you, that's a whole lot better than I have it. Sometimes these desperate men turn out to be good guys who've had bad luck. Desperate means they just want sex, and they'll take anything. Go to Las Vegas, hire a prostitute. There, you're no longer a virgin, and you've just had the experience of someone using you for their own selfish reasons without any scrape of attraction towards you.
jerbear Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 Desperate means they just want sex, and they'll take anything. Go to Las Vegas, hire a prostitute. There, you're no longer a virgin, and you've just had the experience of someone using you for their own selfish reasons without any scrape of attraction towards you. I'm going to revise this! Don't go to Vegas to hire a prostitute, it is illegal in Clark County. It is legal in Nye County.
RiverRunning Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 I don't think that 'ugly' girls are that common - and just because they aren't pretty does not mean that they are ugly, but likely that they're smack around average. Most of us are pretty average. Some of us are attractive. Some are a little ugly. Some are very ugly. Some are very hot. I'd estimate maybe one out of ten, or even fewer, would be considered stereotypically ugly. 1
Author somedude81 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Posted March 25, 2012 If that is true, why even qualify it? Why mention something that is so rare to encounter? When a guy says something like that, it sounds like he is encountering and passing over commonly enough to bring it up. That's actually a great point. I guess I'm afraid that when I say that I just want a girl, somebody is going to say, "What about ugly girls?" If they do, then I just need to remember that ugly girls are so rare, that I don't even need to worry about it.
missyme04 Posted March 25, 2012 Posted March 25, 2012 You know something somedude? I've learned that every woman can be beautiful! Someone who is beautiful to you could be ugly to someone else. So true! every person have different perception in terms of "beauty"
Leigh 87 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I'm currently with an "ugly girl." She was one of those women who I thought were unattractive to me at first sight, but as I got to know her and see her change, she's beautiful now. What physical traits do u deam ugly? What MAKES you aware that a girl is unnattractive? As a women, I find these traits as factors that DIMI(NISH attractivness: girls with big or crooked shaped noses ( bad profile type noses): girls with terrible skin. Those are pretty much the only things to me, that make a women " unpleasant" looking. How unnatractive did u find your g/f, and was it a nice feeling, to see how ones inside, determines how beautiful you view them? I ask, because if a girl has an awesome personality, the type of girl who truly is AWESOME: I seriously do not view her as unnattractive, cos I unconsciously try to see her in a good light, in general. People do change or appear better than they otherwise could have been , if they are great people:)
Leigh 87 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 To me, truly ugly would mean that the person was very unpleasant to look at. The thought of sexually being with them would make u feel very uneasy. These are the things I find inherently ugly in women: - big noses - crooked noses ( big ones are okay if they are shaped nicely, crooked ones make for terrible profile). - yellow teeth - very crooked teeth -noticable bad acne - significant rashes or marks on their faces ( although a beautiful, stunning face would make them okay and compensate) -very small eyes - very, vry thin lips. The bolded are ohysical characteristics that would hinder a women from being physically attractive. It is subjective and a truly ugly girl can change. I did. - I had yellow, crooked teeth. I got braces and teeth whitening. - I had a mono brow. I get them professionally shaped now. - I fell ill and my hair fell out: so I got extentions, so I do not have to be pracrtically BALD, while I await my hair to grow back - I hgad terrible acne: I educated myself on hormonal imbalances, saw doctors, and respested the anti androgen hormones to balance my raging male hormones that caused acne. Money DOES buy beauty. Physical beauty. Money can fix an "ugly" person. It matters to me personally, so I changed my "? ugly" status with the money I was offered, rather than remaining ugly, and giving that money to charity. Being proufoundly ugly was NO CUP OF TEA.Kids would not go near me at school, because my appearance make them uncomfortable and feel afraid, ill, and confused. I wish ALL the truly ugly people, like I WAS, would be able to fix their terrible teeth: I wish they could afford to get their mono brows waxed, if that is what they had wrong also. NOT MANY PEOPLE are ugly in the way I was. It IS rare. MOst people have at least normal sized noses, for instance. To have crooked noses, mono brows, terrible teeth AND acne..... that is unlucky. I was the only truly ugly girl in my grade growing up, right up until I got it all fixed. It is rare in my experience. MOre often than not, girls are not overall " attractive" ; they have something, or severl physical characteristics, that ruin their chances of overall attractivness. For instance: a bad nose, but an otherwise nice face ( ncie smile): or, a LOT of people have CUTE noses, but their faces are otherwise unremarkable ( not ugly features, just not beautiful). It is very common to just be plain; no stunning features, but no unnatractive ones, either. I have a bad nose, it is slightly crooked and I have a bad profile, bt it is not bad enough to ruin the fact I have nice teeth, nice eyes, clear skin, long hair, and a killer shaped body. As we all know, a girl with a cute nose, but otherwise plain features, is not stunning at first, but they are pleasant and NON offensive, therefore they will be viewed as beautiful by a guy who comes to love them. Where as, a truly ugly person, like I once was, will find it very hard to find a man to view them as beautiful on the outside. MOST MEN will choose a girl who is bearable to look at, who has an amazing personality, over a proufoundly ugly women with a killer personality. There are average and attractive women with killer personalities, so ugly girls with great personalities are easily overlooked. MY POINT: Unless you are truly ugly, which is RARE, stop complaining, accept the hotter guys normally favour the hot girls with great personalities, over the average girl with a great personality, and be HAPPY you can at least FINE a great guy who will think your beautiful. DO NOT go for jerks who are superficial, because some guys TRULY WILL find a plain women to be very attractive. Only shallow jerks need a model, in ordder to find a girl beautiful.
Leigh 87 Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I don't think that 'ugly' girls are that common - and just because they aren't pretty does not mean that they are ugly, but likely that they're smack around average. Most of us are pretty average. Some of us are attractive. Some are a little ugly. Some are very ugly. Some are very hot. I'd estimate maybe one out of ten, or even fewer, would be considered stereotypically ugly. And things can make a plain women beautiful. If a girl has a cute nose, and a normal body type, they can make themselves to be ATTRACTIVE, by - wearing mascara to give them thick eyelashes - embrace their personalities. An average girl who is just the BEST person to be around, will get a man who will find them truly beautiful! If, like me, you have a nose that is not attractive ( but not ugly), and are otherwise attractive, you: - work on getting a great personality, which draws others into loving you more - get super fit physically to compensate for your normal./ not hot nose. - invest in braces if u can afford it.
Chubbi Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 OP, I actually think this is a very uplifting thread. You're right; there aren't a lot of people that are ugly. In elementary, I had messed up teeth. I was also the most popular girl in school. In middle school, I had bad acne. I also had a good-looking boyfriend every year. In high school, I had braces and acne. Guys were still wanting to date me. Now, all the way in graduate school (22) I am at my best in terms of looks (straight teeth, breasts! no acne!), but I haven't dated in awhile! Look how that goes:laugh:. 1
Chubbi Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Why are you a virgin so late in life? Have you just got out of jail or were you in a coma? What were you doing all those years?
jerbear Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Now, all the way in graduate school (22) I am at my best in terms of looks (straight teeth, breasts! no acne!), but I haven't dated in awhile! Look how that goes:laugh:. In graduate school, you have no life! My advisor advised us to NOT date each other. :lmao: During our commencement, the University President commented about graduate student's significant others. She said if you two are not married, now is the time. If you two are married, god bless them. If you're single, go thank your family! :lmao:
Chubbi Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 In graduate school, you have no life! My advisor advised us to NOT date each other. :lmao: During our commencement, the University President commented about graduate student's significant others. She said if you two are not married, now is the time. If you two are married, god bless them. If you're single, go thank your family! :lmao: Yes, they sent us a pamphlet titled something like "Graduate School and Relationships." It wasn't a good depiction, so this is true.
jerbear Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Yes, they sent us a pamphlet titled something like "Graduate School and Relationships." It wasn't a good depiction, so this is true. The kicker was, we still did! One of my fellow cohorts pursued another person in the class and was resoundly rejected. It got bad that she asked me to dance so her "dance card" won't be full with his name.
Chubbi Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 The kicker was, we still did! One of my fellow cohorts pursued another person in the class and was resoundly rejected. It got bad that she asked me to dance so her "dance card" won't be full with his name. I am still deciding if I am going to date while here next year and also over the summer while abroad. I feel ready about it; i just don't know if I can keep up both. We have a dance at my grad school too! I was just going to take myself and then find someone to dance with when I get there. My friends don't have dates either so it's not awkward, but I'm not the type to worry about if I don't have a date or not. I usually find some guy:laugh:
jerbear Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I am still deciding if I am going to date while here next year and also over the summer while abroad. I feel ready about it; i just don't know if I can keep up both. We have a dance at my grad school too! I was just going to take myself and then find someone to dance with when I get there. My friends don't have dates either so it's not awkward, but I'm not the type to worry about if I don't have a date or not. I usually find some guy:laugh: Well to be honest, my classmates were not ugly, none of them were. The women in my class were at least 8's depending on day and time. It does not hurt to open your mind to go on a date with your classmates. Edit: many of us didn't have dates, those that did were married or attached. The dances were after the party and we took over the town. Edited March 26, 2012 by jerbear
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 This is something I just thought of. How many people actually know a woman that is ugly? This has nothing to do with being fat, in-fact, if she's fat that doesn't count because a face will change with the loss of weight. How many of them do you see around? To keep things fair, I'm only talking about women under 50 who do not have any disorders, drug problems or plastic surgery mishaps. Does the bolded represent the automatically ugly population? Bummer for me to be in the category with the disordered, drug addled plastic surgery failures! 1
Author somedude81 Posted March 26, 2012 Author Posted March 26, 2012 Does the bolded represent the automatically ugly population? Bummer for me to be in the category with the disordered, drug addled plastic surgery failures! Have you seen the link I posted that has young and old pictures of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi etc?
Febreze Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 This is something I just thought of. How many people actually know a woman that is ugly? This has nothing to do with being fat, in-fact, if she's fat that doesn't count because a face will change with the loss of weight. How many of them do you see around? To keep things fair, I'm only talking about women under 50 who do not have any disorders, drug problems or plastic surgery mishaps. Only one girl comes to mind for me. We were in the same campus club and she was a nice girl, but not cute at all. If it wasn't for her face, I'm sure she would have had no problems dating. Ugly is only on the inside not the outside so get it straight buddy-boy! Its not a good idea to think this way or u will never meet the perfect 1 for u.
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