Bros, Bros, Bros. I told you it was easier than you think.

[g450]

Looks dont mean a thing to a lot of women.

 

Hell I got hit on and I am a 50 year old fat old guy with gray hair LOL. And I dont even dress or dance well.

 

I think consistancy is the thing. I go almost every friday night. Eventually even strangers there will become comfortable with you. And eventually women will talk to you and approach you, if you dont look like the stalkerish creepy old guy at the bar that is LOL.

 

No clue what you guys are doing wrong. I just try to have a good time when I go out. No expectations at all. And ironically I met my Fiancee in a club. Will be married in June. Wish me luck.

Edited March 18, 2012 by g450

[kaylan]

Looks dont mean a thing to a lot of women.

 

Hell I got hit on and I am a 50 year old fat old guy with gray hair LOL. And I dont even dress or dance well.

 

No clue what you guys are doing wrong. I just try to have a good time when I go out. No expectations at all. And ironically my I met my Fiancee in a club. Will be married in June. Wish me luck.

Looks do matter to plenty of women though. However, at your age I wouldnt expect looks to play a major role in dating like it does for young folks.

 

P.S. - But best of luck with your soon to be wife.

[g450]

Both? approaching men never works for me. they never want me

 

Whaaaaa?

 

If that is you in the profile picture then something is defenitely wrong on your side of the universe. IMHO you are a knockout.

 

I am willing to bet that a lot of guys that say they dont get hit on actually do, they just either read the girl wrong or they didnt find her attractive for whatever reason. Which is sad because I find all women beautiful, doesnt matter what they look like.

[ScreamingTrees]

Whaaaaa?

 

If that is you in the profile picture then something is defenitely wrong on your side of the universe. IMHO you are a knockout.

 

I am willing to bet that a lot of guys that say they dont get hit on actually do, they just either read the girl wrong or they didnt find her attractive for whatever reason. Which is sad because I find all women beautiful, doesnt matter what they look like.

 

Well, I must mis-read and not actually ask them for a phone number or something, because I don't believe that half of the situations that people have confirmed as sounding "flirty" were actually what they were.. They were very vague and that "store clerk" or random girl could've looked at me with some deer in headlights look as if my come-on was totally unexpected based on falsely perceived green lights..

 

And, Eleanor, if I was out and about ANYWHERE and a girl like you made moves on me, I'd get your number.. But chances are, you probably wouldn't approach a guy like me regardless, and if you did, I'd assume you were asking me a question because you really didn't know.

 

We'd talk a bit about random **** or have a conversation about the place we're at, but I wouldn't think that having a conversation with a friendly girl would automatically mean that the girl is totally receptive to my advances. Then again, maybe that's why females seem to avoid me like the plague? I guess they desperately want to avoid giving a guy like me the wrong idea.

 

I've never experienced girls actually going up to me and spontaneously talking to me, and if they have and I don't remember, it led to nothing. It's always been about the eye-dancing.. And who knows if that's just in my head or not. Hell, I used to AVOID female eyes for the longest time - even giving them a chance to make me feel inadequate would make me uncomfortable.

 

Sure, it's NICE to BELIEVE that the girl giving me a few glances is interested in me, but unless I'm incredibly intimidating based on how great I look and I don't give myself enough credit.. Well, If they WERE that into me, they'd talk to me or go out of their way to get my attention. Instead, I go out to these non-bar places, I fantasize, and go home alone.

 

Seems to be the case for more attractive dudes, from what I see. Girls seem to gravitate towards them just for being around. I don't consider myself quasi-moto, so I don't know what the deal is. I'm not standing around with a serial killer's grimace as if I'm trying (and failing) to pinch a loaf in my pants..

[Necris]

Men of LoveShack. Harken unto my calling. I verily say to all of you, that the female...she is not the confusing creature you seem to think she is. No, no. But what is she then you may ask?

 

Well lemme tell ya bros.

 

Ok two nights ago I visited my college town to hang out with my buddy who is still there. I graduated back in the summer but still have friends there. Anyways, we went out with a couple of friends for "tower hour". For those who dont know "tower hour" is something some bars do on a night during the week where you buy large towers of beer for great prices.

 

Anyways, the bar we went to has a dance floor and plays club music. So we always end up dancing. One of our friends is actually a new friend who just moved into my old house with my buddy. This guy doesnt drink, and doesnt go out dancing too much. Its not so much his scene, but hes a chill dude. Hes def more of a toker.

 

We are all on the dance floor enjoying the music, and this girl is with her friends and decides to ask him for the time or something. I forget exactly what she said, but she made an excuse to talk to him. She was cute, and had an attractive body. I looked at him and said "dude...what are you doing ...go back over there and capitalize on that...a girl wont randomly talk to you like that unless shes feeling you" Hes actually kind of awkward when it comes to talking to women it seems.

 

Hes obviously not used to the atmosphere...so we pushed him along, and they ended up talking, dancing, kissing, and he got her number. Score brah, seriously lol. After we left he kept thanking us for getting him to talk to her, because he was oblivious to her interest at first. He kept saying how great of a time he had. And like I said, this isnt a guy who does the party/club/bar dance thing too often.

 

Before the assumptions come flying in...no he wasnt super tall or super good looking. He was just an average bloke who was looking kinda scruffy that night as well. Whats the point of this story? Decent dudes like my new friend here can easily make headway with women. Its as simple as putting yourself out there and not looking like a bum. Just look chill and enjoy yourself and things kinda happen.

 

cool story bro, but I've never seen this happen in RL your friend just got unusually lucky. Actually now that I think of it I have been approached before once when I was 14 by a classmate (I didn't understand at the time so I never made a move) and I was approached a year ago at a restaurant once by a morbidly obese woman I knew (I did not want), besides that for my entire life in the rare instance a woman does approach me it isn't for a relationship but the woman being friendly like this time in college where a girl invited me over to her table with her and her boyfriend for lunch since they saw me alone (I guess it looks wierd to be eating alone). I still say women are mysterious impossible to understand alien beings.

[Professor X]

Both? approaching men never works for me. they never want me

 

I bet you get hit on a lot, you just think they are creeps or you're not interested so you don't count em.

I'm sure if I'd chat with you for a few minutes, I'd find out how you have a different thing with a different guy every week.

[Professor X]

How is it misleading? I cant see what you mean. Meeting women is easier than some guys think. I used to think it was tough, and then once I just put myself out there to enjoy the atmosphere, many things changed.

You single?

[eleanorhurting]

I bet you get hit on a lot, you just think they are creeps or you're not interested so you don't count em.

I'm sure if I'd chat with you for a few minutes, I'd find out how you have a different thing with a different guy every week.

 

define "thing"

 

They never stick though. Not for longer than a week anyway. And yes some/many are creepers to me. i am talking about the ones I approach. I have only once approached a guy and had it lead to anything other than the guy trying to get FWB out of the situation. He was my boyfriend and we broke up over a year ago. Every other time they were just not interested.

[ascendotum]

define "thing"

 

They never stick though. Not for longer than a week anyway. And yes some/many are creepers to me. i am talking about the ones I approach. I have only once approached a guy and had it lead to anything other than the guy trying to get FWB out of the situation. He was my boyfriend and we broke up over a year ago. Every other time they were just not interested.

 

define creeper?

Is someone who starts getting flirty in the first 15 minutes? Is it someone who is below your league?

 

approaching men never works for me. they never want me

You might live in somewhere sunny, but you also live in somewhere very weird. Even at a dungeons and dragons tournament you'll get a stack of guys who would love to take you out on a date. You probably say you don't go for the arrogant alpha guys, but I don't see how regular guys are going to flip you off or say yes but only if its fwb.

[Professor X]

define "thing"

 

They never stick though. Not for longer than a week anyway. And yes some/many are creepers to me. i am talking about the ones I approach. I have only once approached a guy and had it lead to anything other than the guy trying to get FWB out of the situation. He was my boyfriend and we broke up over a year ago. Every other time they were just not interested.

 

Look, from a single statement you already upgraded your never to "once". A shift from 0 to 1 is huge by all means, right? it's infinitely bigger.

 

My point was is that you downplay your situation (god knows why), to sound as if you're in the same boat as a lot of people here who actually have hard times.

You're a hottie, you know it, I know it, and everyone who takes a look at your picture knows it. Coming here and claiming you have hard times is just... No words for that.

Same as some women here call themselves fat cows when they are 5,2 and 120 pounds... THAT'S NOT A FAT COW!

 

And as for creepers, as the poster above me asked, define one, cause people who are below your league and hit on you aren't creepers.

Edited March 18, 2012 by Professor X

[eleanorhurting]

creeper:

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/318030-creeper#post3880378

[hotloader]

I used to go out all the time, and I've never had anything remotely like that happen to me. As far as I'm aware, nor have any of my average looking friends.

 

Whenever we'd approach, here are two typical reactions we'd get:

1) *snarled face* "Why are you talking to me?"

2) *turns away and ignores guy completely*

 

 

Women that you'll find hanging out in bars are the lowest of the low. That's a whole different world within a world, and it sucks. It's not a good representation of the real world, which still sucks, but just not as much.

[kaylan]

You single?

Yes, by choice.

[kaylan]

Look, from a single statement you already upgraded your never to "once". A shift from 0 to 1 is huge by all means, right? it's infinitely bigger.

 

My point was is that you downplay your situation (god knows why), to sound as if you're in the same boat as a lot of people here who actually have hard times.

You're a hottie, you know it, I know it, and everyone who takes a look at your picture knows it. Coming here and claiming you have hard times is just... No words for that.

Same as some women here call themselves fat cows when they are 5,2 and 120 pounds... THAT'S NOT A FAT COW!

 

And as for creepers, as the poster above me asked, define one, cause people who are below your league and hit on you aren't creepers.

Am I the only guy here whos not gonna simply go off and tell eleanor how hot she is? Because in my honest opinion shes not "hot" or a "knockout". Its rare I use those adjectives for anyone (so this is not a dig at you hun)

 

Shes an attractive and pretty girl, but for some reason I get the feeling that LS guys have low standards for "hot" girls because Ive seen plenty of dudes here say that about many posters. I just see the terms used so much that they have no meaning here.

 

I wouldnt be at all surprised if an attractive girl has trouble dating. Successfully dating and successfully getting sex are two different things. Any woman could get laid if she really wanted to. On the other hand, finding suitable guys to go on dates with can be challenging.

[AD1980]

Good for him but that has never come close to happening to me

 

My good looking friend had women swarming over him at bars yersterday while i was invisble to women as usual lol

[ScreamingTrees]

Am I the only guy here whos not gonna simply go off and tell eleanor how hot she is? Because in my honest opinion shes not "hot" or a "knockout". Its rare I use those adjectives for anyone (so this is not a dig at you hun)

 

Shes an attractive and pretty girl, but for some reason I get the feeling that LS guys have low standards for "hot" girls because Ive seen plenty of dudes here say that about many posters. I just see the terms used so much that they have no meaning here.

 

I wouldnt be at all surprised if an attractive girl has trouble dating. Successfully dating and successfully getting sex are two different things. Any woman could get laid if she really wanted to. On the other hand, finding suitable guys to go on dates with can be challenging.

 

She's not "HOT", but certainly attractive and pretty. She's better looking than a number of the girls I see in my day to day endeavors, and if she were to approach me, I'd be receptive. That's probably as far as that'd go, unless she had a lot of things in common with me.

 

& I wouldn't be surprised either. If an attractive girl has trouble dating, it's obviously one of two things; She's picking mates who're not in it for the long haul and ultimately aren't compatible and have no common grounds, OR she's an emotional/mental wreck, a heat-seeking bullet that repels the non-desperate guys, as one poster stated in another thread. Plenty of the latter out there, so it seems. That's great for them, but they're still alone. I pity them.

[Professor X]

Am I the only guy here whos not gonna simply go off and tell eleanor how hot she is? Because in my honest opinion shes not "hot" or a "knockout". Its rare I use those adjectives for anyone (so this is not a dig at you hun)

 

Shes an attractive and pretty girl, but for some reason I get the feeling that LS guys have low standards for "hot" girls because Ive seen plenty of dudes here say that about many posters. I just see the terms used so much that they have no meaning here.

 

Smooth move, to show how you're all cool and not caring (it's what I did when I was single, works like a charm).

 

And thinking a lot of women are hot equals low standards - since when? Maybe I just find a lot of things pretty.

 

I wouldnt be at all surprised if an attractive girl has trouble dating. Successfully dating and successfully getting sex are two different things. Any woman could get laid if she really wanted to. On the other hand, finding suitable guys to go on dates with can be challenging.

Any girl can get sex, it's not that hard for them, I know some really obese girls who had sex more than the number of days in a year.

The point is, when you're attractive you got more options, a lot more. That means, she gets more options to have sex but also to have proper RS.

 

How about this: when I was at uni, NO hottie was single, none, zip, nada, Nell. If she has an issue getting a guy, than she's the issue, not the "creepers" as she so hastily called them.

[Professor X]

Yes, by choice.

 

Aren't we all

[kaylan]

Smooth move, to show how you're all cool and not caring (it's what I did when I was single, works like a charm).

 

And thinking a lot of women are hot equals low standards - since when? Maybe I just find a lot of things pretty.

Hey man, all Im saying is that its been my experience that to many guys the word "hot" just means "Id sleep with her". The word has lost all meaning when Ive seen it used on way too many girls and some who arent even close to being stereotypically hot.

 

I think with my penis sometimes just like every other red blooded male, but I can also step back and be objective instead of labeling everything I would have sex with as "hot"

 

Any girl can get sex, it's not that hard for them, I know some really obese girls who had sex more than the number of days in a year.

The point is, when you're attractive you got more options, a lot more. That means, she gets more options to have sex but also to have proper RS.

Agree.

How about this: when I was at uni, NO hottie was single, none, zip, nada, Nell. If she has an issue getting a guy, than she's the issue, not the "creepers" as she so hastily called them.

I wouldnt say someone has an issue just because they havent found a suitable guy. You gotta realize that picking someone to be a boyfriend or girlfriend is a longer process for some people. A lot of things have to be just right for things to fit.

 

Aren't we all

Me for instance. 3 girlfriends in my whole like at 25, though only 2 Id really count since the first one was not so serious relationship I had when I was 16. If I wanted to, I could go out and find a girlfriend. Im attractive enough and fun enough that I could pull someone. But actually getting a chick who I absolutely click with ,and see myself with down the road...well finding that is hard.

 

And right now Im not actively looking for a girlfriend. Im open to it, but not in a rush...so Im single by choice.

[eleanorhurting]

She's not "HOT", but certainly attractive and pretty. She's better looking than a number of the girls I see in my day to day endeavors, and if she were to approach me, I'd be receptive. That's probably as far as that'd go, unless she had a lot of things in common with me.

 

& I wouldn't be surprised either. If an attractive girl has trouble dating, it's obviously one of two things; She's picking mates who're not in it for the long haul and ultimately aren't compatible and have no common grounds, OR she's an emotional/mental wreck, a heat-seeking bullet that repels the non-desperate guys, as one poster stated in another thread. Plenty of the latter out there, so it seems. That's great for them, but they're still alone. I pity them.

 

 

Hey I think I'm pretty hot. I have looked better in the past but I have a good body

 

And you are right I am probably 80% of the problem.

[Professor X]

Hey man, all Im saying is that its been my experience that to many guys the word "hot" just means "Id sleep with her". The word has lost all meaning when Ive seen it used on way too many girls and some who arent even close to being stereotypically hot.

 

I think with my penis sometimes just like every other red blooded male, but I can also step back and be objective instead of labeling everything I would have sex with as "hot"

 

I didn't call her a hottie cause I'd sleep with her.. it's cause she is. I don't work like that anyway, I can't get my shlong up unless I got feelings to the the woman, so just beauty doesn't do a whole lot to me anyway.

[ScreamingTrees]

Hey I think I'm pretty hot. I have looked better in the past but I have a good body

 

And you are right I am probably 80% of the problem.

 

No way for any of us to really know what your real problem is, and whether or not it lies in you or exists outside of you. You have to be honest with your self and objective about identifying it if you feel that the problem exists and needs to be addressed in order to progress to where you want to be.

 

& In my mind, a girl's either physically attractive or unattractive. In general, I'm not impressed by angelic looks, and a lot of the time the girls that my friends would drool over just don't get a rise out of me in any way. I COULD just be atypical..

 

Unless I actually had the chance and desire to get to know you and grew attached to who you are as a person, I've long since evolved past the point of being unrealistically infatuated with a symmetrical face and a nice figure with nothing else to go by. I don't get ahead of myself anymore because it's really not as big a deal - unless it becomes a big deal. That doesn't happen overnight.

 

I don't use subjective terms to grade women. Attractive = attractive. Take two random girls in this category, and while they might be slightly different, there's usually very little difference for me, if we're talking in purely physical terms.

[g450]

creeper:

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/romantic/dating/318030-creeper#post3880378

 

OK I read that and now I think I understand.

 

Seems you have an iron clad idea of what your date should be or not be and if he doesnt meet with your exact specifications he is a creeper. So by your definition, we are all creepers.

 

Sorry to be blunt but now I can understand why some guys do not approach you. I think you are making yourself unaprochable by not giving guys a fair chance to show you their good side and their good intentions.

 

This kind of makes me understand why a lot of men do not approach very attractive women as a lot of them come accross as very picky or high maintenance, hence unaproachable. I think most of us feel better about taking our chances with the girl next door types.

 

Personally I had no problems approaching women when I was single. But I did not hit on women that were way out of my age range or that I found unattractive. But I can tell you I do not have very high standards. Even my own family would make fun of my choices of persuit.

 

But like somebody said, at age 50 the dating dynamics changes considerably. So I cant really relate to this thread. The older a guy gets the easier it gets. The opposit is true for females, the older they get the harder it gets for them. That is at least one thing the younger guys can look forward to if they find themselves single post middle age.

[hotloader]

Men of LoveShack. Harken unto my calling. I verily say to all of you, that the female...she is not the confusing creature you seem to think she is. No, no. But what is she then you may ask?

 

Well lemme tell ya bros.

 

I'm through with trying to pick up women. At this age, I'd rather just jerk off into my sock before bed and call it a night. It costs nothing, I get my nut off, and I wake up feeling refreshed and rejuvenated in the morning.