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OP is using these Men and giving NOTHING back....met useless parasites like her, threw them out of my life as soon as i was made aware of these disgusting traits.

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I've had some very close female friends over the years. We shared everything.

 

None of them ever wanted to date me, not the close ones nor the casual ones. Guess I really am that ugly.

 

It always struck me as odd that they would rather be single and end the friendship instead of giving me a chance. And the friendship ended every time.

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I've had some very close female friends over the years. We shared everything.

 

None of them ever wanted to date me, not the close ones nor the casual ones. Guess I really am that ugly.

 

It always struck me as odd that they would rather be single and end the friendship instead of giving me a chance. And the friendship ended every time.

 

That is because a female, can NEVER be a true friend to a guy. No brotherhood there, or honor or sacrifice for your bro. Females are only good for sex and sandwiches, sad but true. Metalica had a song even about that.

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Sounds like you should consider dating girls....

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I do admit that my friends (both male and female) have become 'surrogates' for a 'relationship'... but what am I supposed to do? Not have any friends?

 

Do you realize how selfish that sounds? Yeah these guys have their own relationships that I may be jeopardizing by emotionally leeching off of them... BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?!?!?!? I want to be alone but not like really alone...

 

Come on, girl. Get a grip.

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Do you realize how selfish that sounds? Yeah these guys have their own relationships that I may be jeopardizing by emotionally leeching off of them... BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?!?!?!? I want to be alone but not like really alone...

 

Come on, girl. Get a grip.

 

Agree!!!!! She is a total parasite!

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Most of you treat your co-workers and friends better than you do your wives and girlfriends. It's like, you go home to 'plug-in' (pun intended) and that's about it. You cheat on them. Lie to them. Disrespect them with your thoughtless habits and expectations that they (women) will somehow erase all of your petty insecurities.

 

It's true. Most women don't have any problems finding someone to f*ck. We also don't need to settle for bad behavior... the cheating, lying, angry outbursts, insecurity about your earning potential, insecurity about our past relationships, insecurity about your dick size and potency that you play out by chasing after much younger women you have zero in common with, and derogatory thoughts/comments about our bodies that you don't share about your own. Basically, we have better things to do than spend all of our time stroking your egos so that you can feel like 'the man'.

 

I'm not sure I could be friends with someone who has such a hateful outlook.

 

Everything in life requires balance. You need to find that balance in your own life and stop blaming other people.

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Do you realize how selfish that sounds? Yeah these guys have their own relationships that I may be jeopardizing by emotionally leeching off of them... BUT WHAT ABOUT MY NEEDS?!?!?!? I want to be alone but not like really alone...

 

Come on, girl. Get a grip.

 

I have a grip.

 

I'm not emotionally leeching off of anyone. Just ask my male friend's wives/GFs.

 

You will need to read some of my other posts on different threads, if you haven't already. Do your homework, please.

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Agree!!!!! She is a total parasite!

 

Aren't you the troll with the big dick?

 

If so, you are proving my point right now.

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How are the examples I've given surrogate boyfriends?

 

I do admit that my friends (both male and female) have become 'surrogates' for a 'relationship'... but what am I supposed to do? Not have any friends?

 

When I see so many men just having relationships so they can get sex, but offer little or nothing in terms of emotional content... yea, I can do without those. Especially since I don't want kids and I make my own money.

 

I don't see friendships as surrogates for a relationship, and I don't think friendships are sustainable in that concept. I very much know men and women can be friends, but I don't look for my friends to 'fill my needs.' Frankly, I don't look for my SO to 'fill my needs.' I think it's fairly dangerous to value other people for what they "do" for you.

 

Yes, friends, family, and significant others often give us strength, and we give them strength, but either the way you view it or the way you articulate it (I can't tell which) makes these friendships sound very mechanical and not friendly at all.

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Aren't you the troll with the big dick?

 

If so, you are proving my point right now.

Yesterday it was a really small dick.

 

He's still eating his poo though. Good to see that some things never change.

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I'm not sure I could be friends with someone who has such a hateful outlook.

 

Everything in life requires balance. You need to find that balance in your own life and stop blaming other people.

 

You're right. Life does require balance.

 

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm blaming anyone. Read the rest of the thread before you jump down my throat please.

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Yesterday it was a really small dick.

 

He's still eating his poo though. Good to see that some things never change.

 

That's too bad. It appears he is pretty good at stoking up the folks though. Quite a talent.

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I don't see friendships as surrogates for a relationship, and I don't think friendships are sustainable in that concept. I very much know men and women can be friends, but I don't look for my friends to 'fill my needs.' Frankly, I don't look for my SO to 'fill my needs.' I think it's fairly dangerous to value other people for what they "do" for you.

 

Yes, friends, family, and significant others often give us strength, and we give them strength, but either the way you view it or the way you articulate it (I can't tell which) makes these friendships sound very mechanical and not friendly at all.

 

I'm sure it must be the way I'm articulating it, because I've had many people tell me I'm a very good friend.

 

People who don't want or need friendship and companionship would be called hermits.

 

I'd like a relationship, but not on just any terms. I don't plan on being a hermit until I find one either, in case some of the people here are suggesting I do.

 

I'm also not going to be one of these people who get their emotional needs filled by casual sex. I guess for some, that is more healthy than healthy platonic friendships where someone is treated like a human being...not something to stick their dick in or get pay for services rendered (what passes for 'dates' for some people).

 

I do wonder sometimes... when I see the trends I mentioned before. Multidating, casual sex. blah blah. I see many people doing exactly that to get their emotional needs met. ****ing (or trying to) **** just about anything that walks, and calling THAT a relationship.

 

If so, then please tell me what is loving or caring about THAT. Talk about being parasites.

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That is because a female, can NEVER be a true friend to a guy. No brotherhood there, or honor or sacrifice for your bro. Females are only good for sex and sandwiches, sad but true. Metalica had a song even about that.

 

Come on. Are you really that naive. Every man knows that couldn't be further from the truth.Not all women are good for sex. And some are even worse at making a sandwich. I'm glad metallica was generous enough to share the philosophical views on the subject, I'm sure many years from now people will still be enjoying their talent. Dam they were some sexy bitchez,they had such long hair and the cutest lipstick. Gotta look pretty while singing about the devil:lmao::lmao::lmao:

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You mention it satisfying your emotional needs. When you mention they treat you better than their girlfriends or wives that kind of comes off as you thinking you are more important than their SO. Those two things make it seem like a surrogate boyfriend and the premise of this thread. If they had not been said it would have been cool. I'm not saying not have any friends but there is a difference between friendship and a substitute for something missing in your life

 

I'm pretty sure you have read my other posts about this topic... and you will recall that I make a point of making myself 'second' to their wife/girlfriend.

 

That doesn't mean I'm going to stop having male friends altogether.

 

Friendships (of both genders) HAVE become my 'surrogate' for a so-called romantic relationship. Not exactly by choice.

 

...and you've read here what some of my choices are. I've passed up 'relationships' with some men because I didn't think they would be healthy... or that there were issues that would arise in the long term.

 

I care more about them as human beings and as friends than I do using them for a relationship.

 

But perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree here.

 

I've been on LS long enough to know that many people here use the phrase 'relationship' in a pretty loose way. And use people in 'relationships' to get their emotional needs met with little or no thought to how having that 'relationship' would affect the other person.

 

Sorry. I don't do FWB. I don't do short-term dating. I'm looking for a committed relationship leading to marriage.

 

Those are kinda in short supply. Especially among men my age who are more than happy to suck women dry emotionally to get their physical needs met and who have zero intention of committing to anyone.

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Metallica never were "sexy bitches" or had lipstick....they were not KISS you idiot. Go chase a car you troll

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Most of you treat your co-workers and friends better than you do your wives and girlfriends. It's like, you go home to 'plug-in' (pun intended) and that's about it. You cheat on them. Lie to them. Disrespect them with your thoughtless habits and expectations that they (women) will somehow erase all of your petty insecurities.

 

That is why I have male friends. Men who have legitimate female friends treat me better than men who don't have female friends and want to date me. I've found that I can be friends to them too, without the ridiculous power games that many men are plagued by and seem to be powerless to escape once they are interested in a woman romantically.

 

It's true. Most women don't have any problems finding someone to f*ck. We also don't need to settle for bad behavior... the cheating, lying, angry outbursts, insecurity about your earning potential, insecurity about our past relationships, insecurity about your dick size and potency that you play out by chasing after much younger women you have zero in common with, and derogatory thoughts/comments about our bodies that you don't share about your own. Basically, we have better things to do than spend all of our time stroking your egos so that you can feel like 'the man'.

 

Men who have legitimate female friends don't seem to be hung up on gender roles and power plays. They aren't out trying to 'prove' they are the man. They seem to have some intrinsic sense of their worth that transcends whatever body parts the person owns. Which translates to me as being a better human being overall. Those are the kind of people I prefer to spend time with.

This sounds like you are blaming all men for bad relationships. Often they blame goes both ways. You sound bitter and whatever you may say about the GF and wives going along with it that is because you hide your true colors. A lot of times men date younger women because they don't have to deal with the BS of being treated like you were all the exs that treated you wrong. Like the saying goes Better a turnout than a burnout.

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Sorry. I don't do FWB. I don't do short-term dating. I'm looking for a committed relationship leading to marriage.

 

Those are kinda in short supply. Especially among men my age who are more than happy to suck women dry emotionally to get their physical needs met and who have zero intention of committing to anyone.

Well the bitterness you show and the assumption like this statement above isn't going to help in your cause of finding a committed relationship

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Metallica never were "sexy bitches" or had lipstick....they were not KISS you idiot. Go chase a car you troll

 

I'm sorry the truth hurt you. I've seen them back stage, and yes goldilocks was putting on some fine looking pink lipstick. Feel free to tell me what I saw though. If it keeps your fdream alive, I'll deny the facts. Maybe all the eyeshadow is what threw you off. Personally, if I were you I'd burn the jacket, jeans too.;)

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Will people stop being so hard on the OP. She said something in the heat of the moment that sounded bitter but I am sure she doesn't generally feel that way.

 

Not all men are unappreciative of their wives and girlfriends and women are just as bad. I am sure you know at least one woman who has a great guy who treats her great but is somehow still unhappy. It goes both ways.

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I've had some very close female friends over the years. We shared everything.

 

None of them ever wanted to date me, not the close ones nor the casual ones. Guess I really am that ugly.

 

It always struck me as odd that they would rather be single and end the friendship instead of giving me a chance. And the friendship ended every time.

 

Hello SD... for the record, I don't base any friendships (male or female) on the hopes of having something romantic with them. I've had female friendships go by the wayside too. We outgrew each other, they moved, they started families and got busy... I still keep in touch with alot of them. We may not be as close as we were before, but I know that if anything serious happened to me, and vice versa, we'd be there for each other. They are like family. I don't call my family everyday :)

 

We talked about this on another thread. If it is done on a quid-pro-quo basis, it won't work. I've ended some male friendships because it was obvious they wanted more... they wanted something I couldn't give them and it wasn't healthy for either one of us.

 

that said, there has to be some healthy back and forth. People who sincerely care about you will be your friend too.

 

I get the sense they weren't friends to you? Can you find a way to be happy with the time you did share?

 

Some people (I think) here are rejecting the idea of male/female friendships because it is coming across as a means to an end.

 

The only 'end' I'm looking for is easing each other's burdens in life in some way.

 

To be honest, I think what I have to offer is alot healthier than what I see alot of people chasing after in their so-called relationships to nowhere.

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I think we expect more of our lovers/spouses than we do of our friends. I know I do.

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You're right. Life does require balance.

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that I'm blaming anyone. Read the rest of the thread before you jump down my throat please.

 

I'm not jumping down your throat... or at least I'm not trying to.

 

I'm saying that your view of the world is very unbalanced. You need to understand that relationships are not all one way. Men don't just take and women don't just give... it goes both ways.

 

You blame men for relationship issues... what you really need to do is just take responsibility for your own and not let anyone drag you down.

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I'm sorry the truth hurt you. I've seen them back stage, and yes goldilocks was putting on some fine looking pink lipstick. Feel free to tell me what I saw though. If it keeps your fdream alive, I'll deny the facts. Maybe all the eyeshadow is what threw you off. Personally, if I were you I'd burn the jacket, jeans too.;)

 

You being backstage with some dude wearing lipstick, shows more about you than me, since I never even gone to them shows...go on now, you got plenty to burn

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