somedude81 Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Let's walk through your objectives logically. You claim the the entirety of women are in a better position (I'm going to assume romantically) than men. Especially you, poor guy. Except you've admitted that you wouldn't touch a fat woman with a ten foot pole. And that to be attracted to you, she has to be young and "attractive." You also know from being on this website that many, many, many guys share this same opinion... even the OP stresses that fat and ugly women are the very lowest of creatures. So, how exactly do these two beliefs logically interlock? That all women have an advantage over "average" men... except that the "average" man won't date a fat, ugly woman. Yeah, SOME men might... just like some women would date a short guy, or an average guy, or an ugly guy. You, an average guy, won't date a fat ugly woman. So how in the world is the fat ugly woman above you in your little hierarchy? Sorry, I forgot that fat ugly girls existed. They're not something I spend much time thinking about, unless I'm actually thinking about what I don't want. And if you say that you are a fat ugly girl, my eyes are going to roll out of their sockets.
ComMan Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 FAT and UGLY and FUGLY girls, should be put on an island and nuked from the orbit...just to make sure...
ditzchic Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Why not just use some birth control? Hell I'm sure there are a few of them that remove or just really limit the number of periods. No birth control is 100% Sure you're good like 98% of the time so rationally you know you're ok. But when you're a few days late rational thinking tends to go out the window. And there are. And they also are linked to all kinds of cancers and infertility problems. The body does what it does for a reason. Screw with it too much for convenience purposes and it will screw back with you.
Els Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Why not just use some birth control? Hell I'm sure there are a few of them that remove or just really limit the number of periods. I'd just explained to you what happens during PMS. Now it's your turn to go do some research about the side effects of BC. Sorry, I forgot that fat ugly girls existed. They're not something I spend much time thinking about, unless I'm actually thinking about what I don't want. Oh, SD. You know, you shove your foot in your mouth without realizing it so much here that I'm having trouble believing it doesn't happen IRL. 1
verhrzn Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Why not just use some birth control? Hell I'm sure there are a few of them that remove or just really limit the number of periods. A lot of forms of hormonal birth control also make you gain weight, thus turning you INTO a fat chick. Ain't thems the breaks?
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Until your period is late. Then you realize that being a woman really has it's downsides sometimes... On the upside, though, when this troll gets his sex change, she won't have to experience periods or worry about pregnancy. On the upside, also, she will probably be a fat and ugly woman, thus getting to experience that for herself, after using those words as insults here on LS over and over. Very boringly. 1
somedude81 Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 There are many different kinds of birth control for women. Once I actually get into a situation where I'm having sex with a girl, then I'll start researching birth control methods with her so we can move off of condoms. Oh, SD. You know, you shove your foot in your mouth without realizing it so much here that I'm having trouble believing it doesn't happen IRL. Sorry, what? I don't get it. What did I say that was wrong? A lot of forms of hormonal birth control also make you gain weight, thus turning you INTO a fat chick. Ain't thems the breaks? Then eat less?
Mme. Chaucer Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 There are many different kinds of birth control for women. Once I actually get into a situation where I'm having sex with a girl, then I'll start researching birth control methods with her so we can move off of condoms. Why do you see birth control as a woman's realm? I am aware of all the types of birth control, and condoms are the least dangerous, not systemic or invasive, and are very effective.
zengirl Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 There are many different kinds of birth control for women. Once I actually get into a situation where I'm having sex with a girl, then I'll start researching birth control methods with her so we can move off of condoms. Sorry, what? I don't get it. What did I say that was wrong? Then eat less? This is the kind of stuff you say that makes me completely unsurprised you haven't had a GF. You clearly know very, very little about hormonal BC. OR you simply don't care because it doesn't apply to you. Or both. But this is what you say that is wrong -- things like this! *sighs*
ScreamingTrees Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 So, how exactly do these two beliefs logically interlock? That all women have an advantage over "average" men... except that the "average" man won't date a fat, ugly woman. Yeah, SOME men might... just like some women would date a short guy, or an average guy, or an ugly guy. You, an average guy, won't date a fat ugly woman. So how in the world is the fat ugly woman above you in your little hierarchy? Your typical average dude isn't ugly, nor is he fat. I don't know why you'd compare a supposedly "average" male with an overweight, unattractive female.. Wouldn't an overweight, unattractive male be a better fit? You seem to think you're fat, and/or ugly, but you're just not. Stop getting all defensive over **** that has nothing to do with you. You wouldn't blend in a walmart crowd. 99% of LSers wouldn't. Be happy. A "fat" or "ugly" woman is not below him. In the end, he's just not attracted to women who may fall into that category for him. Although the guy might have a douchey, immature outlook on life, I don't think that it'd be wise for such a guy to give a "fat"/"ugly" girl a chance.. a bullet dodged for her.
verhrzn Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Then eat less? I am so very impressed at your scientific reasoning. Ya know, that hormonal birth control makes the girl gain weight. In other words, it has nothing to do with the amount of calories she is eating. It is amazing what knots you will tie yourself into, just to preserve your victim status. You're insult women's appearance, then call foul when women do the same thing to you... You'll instruct women what to do with their bodies (lose weight, no condoms) while doing absolutely NO research on your own about what these instructions actually mean, and refuse to do anything about yourself to increase your own attractiveness (like, gain confidence and ask girls out.) Why are you so attached to these ideas??
ComMan Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 verhrzn, you will end up sad and alone with no Man in your life....oh wait...
verhrzn Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Your typical average dude isn't ugly, nor is he fat. I don't know why you'd compare a supposedly "average" male with an overweight, unattractive female.. Wouldn't an overweight, unattractive male be a better fit? That's kind of my point though... The OP claims that women won the genetic lottery, oh, unless they're fat and ugly. So, being a woman actually has very little to do with attractiveness. You COULD say "very attractive" women won the genetic lottery... but then the very same argument could be used for very attractive men. In other words, being a woman doesn't automatically make you attractive. The hierarchy is probably something more like: Very Attractive Woman/Man Average Woman/Man Ugly, Fat Woman/Man
ComMan Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 The hierarchy is probably something more like: Very Attractive Woman/Man Average Woman/Man Ugly, Fat Woman/Man LS member verhrzn
ThaWholigan Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 That's kind of my point though... The OP claims that women won the genetic lottery, oh, unless they're fat and ugly. So, being a woman actually has very little to do with attractiveness. You COULD say "very attractive" women won the genetic lottery... but then the very same argument could be used for very attractive men. In other words, being a woman doesn't automatically make you attractive. The hierarchy is probably something more like: Very Attractive Woman/Man Average Woman/Man Ugly, Fat Woman/Man Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
verhrzn Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 The hierarchy is probably something more like: Very Attractive Woman/Man Average Woman/Man Ugly, Fat Woman/Man LS member verhrzn *Victory lap* 1
Els Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Sorry, what? I don't get it. What did I say that was wrong? Then eat less? Mmmmhmmm. Can you not see why we're so skeptical about your claims that NONE of your internal mindset escapes through your behaviour and words to the women you meet IRL? You can't even see what went wrong here. Or perhaps you aren't interested enough to break out of defensive mode into introspective mode to figure it out for yourself. Regardless, I'm now quite certain that something like this has happened in conversations with the girls you know IRL. The standing is 10% hot guys Women 90% the other guys Sorry, I forgot that fat ugly girls existed. They're not something I spend much time thinking about, unless I'm actually thinking about what I don't want. And if you say that you are a fat ugly girl, my eyes are going to roll out of their sockets. Come now. Surely you can figure it out. I could help you by providing an analogy appropriate to some of your own weaknesses, but that would be incredibly hurtful and I'd prefer not to have to do that just to prove a point.
somedude81 Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Why do you see birth control as a woman's realm? I am aware of all the types of birth control, and condoms are the least dangerous, not systemic or invasive, and are very effective. Don't give me that, not even women want to use condoms every single time they have sex. This is the kind of stuff you say that makes me completely unsurprised you haven't had a GF. You clearly know very, very little about hormonal BC. Of course I don't know anything about hormonal birth control. I'm obviously not a woman. Nor do I have any sisters and I never had a GF. So how could I know anything about BC, and why should I? Mmmmhmmm. Can you not see why we're so skeptical about your claims that NONE of this mindset of yours escapes to the knowledge of the women you meet IRL? You can't even see what went wrong here. Or perhaps you aren't interested enough to break out of defensive mode into introspective mode to figure it out for yourself. Regardless, I'm now quite certain that something like this has happened in conversations with the girls you know IRL. All I said was that I forgot fat girls exist because I never think of them. In person I never talk about people being fat or not. I keep all my dislike of overweight people (yes people, I don't like fat guys either) to myself. If somebody says a rude comment about obese people I either tell them that they are being rude, or just don't say anything. Come now. Surely you can figure it out. I could help you by providing an analogy appropriate to some of your own weaknesses, but that would be incredibly hurtful and I'd prefer not to have to do that just to prove a point. I don't get what you are trying to say.
ScreamingTrees Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 That's kind of my point though... The OP claims that women won the genetic lottery, oh, unless they're fat and ugly. So, being a woman actually has very little to do with attractiveness. You COULD say "very attractive" women won the genetic lottery... but then the very same argument could be used for very attractive men. In other words, being a woman doesn't automatically make you attractive. The hierarchy is probably something more like: Very Attractive Woman/Man Average Woman/Man Ugly, Fat Woman/Man True, I guess. There really is no point to this thread, like a majority of other threads. There are attractive people out there, and there are unattractive people. Fortunately, very few people fall outside of the average, and even fewer are on the lower end of that average. It also doesn't mean they couldn't do something or TRY rather than wallow like some obvious failures on this forum do (try to eat healthier, exercise, practice good hygiene, wear better-fitting/complimentary clothes, pluck your eyebrows/trim facial hair/ect.. I mean, in most cases these things can be helped. How many people have each of us really seen who we thought was just naturally hopelessly unattractive in every way? Usually there's a medical reason for it. I wouldn't put any stock into what a handful of neurotic virgins have to say, unless you're really looking to continue down the "forever alone" path..
ditzchic Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Don't give me that, not even women want to use condoms every single time they have sex. Damn right I don't want to use a condom every time. The desire to feel skin on skin is a whole lot less than the desire to have a child with the wrong guy though. Condoms until there's a ring on it.
Els Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 I'm obviously not a woman. Nor do I have any sisters and I never had a GF. So how could I know anything about BC, and why should I? Because they're such a pertinent issue in life today. That's like me saying I don't live in the USA, why should I bother knowing about who Obama is? Or I'm not a man, how can I be expected to know that men get erections when they're aroused? I don't get what you are trying to say. Well, then, we'll move on to the hard bit. Me: 'Guys have it so easy. They can have sex with as many people as they like and nobody ever calls them sluts. Gosh, I wish I was a man.' You: '...But I'm 30 and I've never had sex.' Me: 'Sorry, I forgot that 30 year old virgins exist. They're not something I spend much time thinking about, unless I'm actually thinking about what I don't want.' Don't you see? You don't even view overweight women, or women with ugly features, as WOMEN. They don't even exist in your mind. This shows through in everything you say about women. And it isn't just overweight women, or ugly women, who would find this an extremely undesirable quality in a man. Nor would women find it desirable that you just brush off concerns about the effects of hormonal birth control on women (although you are suggesting that women use it), until such a time as you need your gf to get hormonal BC so that you can have sex without condoms. 6
SJC2008 Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Actually women lose the genetic lottery because they are hard wired to want that "it" factor which has the power to override their logic, causing them to ignore red flags early on thus causing them to pass the age of 30 having never been proposed to. Then they lay around wondering and baffled, jealous of the ones who who hit the real lotto and found a man with the it factor and did want commitment. You can have your cake and eat it to, but you must be willing to face the risk of dying alone waiting for that snowballs chance.
Nightsky Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 A female 6 is basically equal to a male 10. The best an average-looking guy can hope for is fat, ugly girls. Why rate peoples looks on a scale of 1-10? I mean wouldn't it be more helpful for you to just feel what you feel for the person. I mean sure its fun to joke around with the guys and talk about wich actress is the perect 10 or what ever but to take that kind of stuff seriously when dating is disrespectful. I mean what you find a girl you like and then tell your friends "I like this girl I'm going t make her my gf she's like a 7.5" and then your friends like "nah she's more of a 6." It's just all really childish and rude. If we were breaking this into math wouldn't a male 10 = female 10. I mean is there a mathimatical exchange rate. If 6 = 10 thats multiplying it by 1.6 repeating. That means a femal 4 is practicly eaqual to a male 7. I mean by your math all men should be dating camatose hospitilized women... I really don't even get the point of saying women won the lottery. I mean if you think about it as a man you get more power, fun, adventure. I mean very few women have the capability to just hop on a train and see the world by themselves no protection. Not saying its perfectly safe for a man but myself and many others have traveled to far off lands or just gone out to the club a lone. I think fear is the only thing that stops some man. How scared must you be wishing you were a woman when you've been given the gift of being a man. By the way I know plenty of loser guys in looks and every other aspect of their lives who have no problem getting young attractive women. Doesn't make them better persons.
ScreamingTrees Posted March 13, 2012 Posted March 13, 2012 Assigning numbers to people's looks is ridiculous. The number will never be constant, depending on who is looking at you.
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