Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Prejudice comes in many forms PhillyDude. What you did to that person is no different then when people treated African Americans like second class citizens. Just because you don't understand something or never exprienced something, doesn't justify how you treated that person. And I agree with XXOO that it is NEVER okay to refer to a human being as an "it". You do not get to heep humilation on other people just because you are you PhillyDude. This kind of prejudice really pisses me off. You didn't get any say in how you were born did you PhillyDude. How dare you criticize other people for how they were born. They didn't get a say in that either. And you are not a better person just because you were born a certain way. 1
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Prejudice comes in many forms PhillyDude. What you did to that person is no different then when people treated African Americans like second class citizens. Just because you don't understand something or never exprienced something, doesn't justify how you treated that person. And I agree with XXOO that it is NEVER okay to refer to a human being as an "it". You do not get to heep humilation on other people just because you are you PhillyDude. This kind of prejudice really pisses me off. You didn't get any say in how you were born did you PhillyDude. How dare you criticize other people for how they were born. They didn't get a say in that either. And you are not a better person just because you were born a certain way. Maybe I said the wrong thing. I was trying to say it was a HE/SHE which is a man pretending to be a woman. So maybe I made a mistake in saying TS?
Eclypse Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Out of curiosity how could you tell? Was there an upskirt shot or something?? I wouldn't throw out accusations unless you can be sure. It was in poor taste, this poor person is probably used to it by now unfortunately. I wouldn't date a TG person, but I can't knock them for trying to find love.
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Out of curiosity how could you tell? Was there an upskirt shot or something?? I wouldn't throw out accusations unless you can be sure. It was in poor taste, this poor person is probably used to it by now unfortunately. I wouldn't date a TG person, but I can't knock them for trying to find love. Manly facial features which was basically a man's face
Jynxx Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Obviously OP was not funny and way too rude, but the amount of political correctness in this thread is cringeworhty. Of course any human being should have a shot at finding love. But is it really fair towards her partner to hide stuff like that? Is it fair to have a guy contact her, like her, maybe even develop feelings for her, take her to a restaurant, have hourlong conversation and maybe even kiss her without knowing - excuse me for being pragmatic - she has a dick that may be bigger than his? In my opinion it isn't. There's plenty of guys who are open to dating her, but to trick a guy into it by pretending to biologically be a female is just not acceptable.
serial muse Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Obviously OP was not funny and way too rude, but the amount of political correctness in this thread is cringeworhty. Of course any human being should have a shot at finding love. But is it really fair towards her partner to hide stuff like that? Is it fair to have a guy contact her, like her, maybe even develop feelings for her, take her to a restaurant, have hourlong conversation and maybe even kiss her without knowing - excuse me for being pragmatic - she has a dick that may be bigger than his? In my opinion it isn't. There's plenty of guys who are open to dating her, but to trick a guy into it by pretending to biologically be a female is just not acceptable. We have only the OP's opinion that this person is actually a man, an opinion that the OP just said is based on somebody having what he thinks are "manly facial features." I don't personally think that the OP's opinion is super-reliable. He has a habit of jumping to conclusions, to put it mildly. Nor is the fact that the person in question either hid his/her profile or left OKC altogether after getting a message from PhillyDude saying "you're not fooling anyone" an indication of anything except that nobody likes getting jerky messages from strangers. Bottom line, PhillyDude is, as usual, making a whole lot of assumptions about other people with basically zero data. All he really had to do is not email somebody he wasn't interested in. I wonder why that's so freaking difficult. Edited March 12, 2012 by serial muse 2
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 We have only the OP's opinion that this person is actually a man, an opinion that the OP just said is based on somebody having what he thinks are "manly facial features." I don't personally think that the OP's opinion is super-reliable. He has a habit of jumping to conclusions, to put it mildly. Nor is the fact that the person in question either hid his/her profile or left OKC altogether after getting a message from PhillyDude saying "you're not fooling anyone" an indication of anything except that nobody likes getting jerky messages from strangers. Bottom line, PhillyDude is, as usual, making a whole lot of assumptions about other people with basically zero data. All he really had to do is not email somebody he wasn't interested in. I wonder why that's so freaking difficult. Well why is the profile no longer in existence then after that message?
Star Gazer Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Manly facial features which was basically a man's face So, you're saying that she looks like Jamie Lee Curtis or Megan Fox in the face? THAT is your basis for calling her TS?
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 So, you're saying that she looks like Jamie Lee Curtis or Megan Fox in the face? THAT is your basis for calling her TS? I'm saying it was a man with a wig on and that's why it says the user no longer has an account. I was looking out for all the other guys on there who may not be as analytical as me
serial muse Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Well why is the profile no longer in existence then after that message? Like I said. Nor is the fact that the person in question either hid his/her profile or left OKC altogether after getting a message from PhillyDude saying "you're not fooling anyone" an indication of anything except that nobody likes getting jerky messages from strangers. Most likely answer is you're now blocked.
Goobypie Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Don't respond to PhillyDude, he's a troll under the alt of PhillySportsPhan from another forum where he and others are currently heckling a known transexaul that joined that site.
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Like I said. Most likely answer is you're now blocked. So a real woman would leave a site because of ONE MESSAGE?
mortensorchid Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 You never know who is putting up a dummy or a fake profile of some kind. Funny in some ways but rather ... Disturbing in others.
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 Don't respond to PhillyDude, he's a troll under the alt of PhillySportsPhan from another forum where he and others are currently heckling a known transexaul that joined that site. What are you talking about? U sound crazy
serial muse Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) So a real woman would leave a site because of ONE MESSAGE? A. You have no idea whether this person may have gotten more than one piece of hate mail. B. You have no idea whether this person is actually a man or not. C. You have no idea why this person left the site, assuming he or she did, in fact, leave the site, because you also don't know that for sure. D. Along those lines, you have no idea whether this person might have left the site (if that's what happened) because he or she found somebody and was thus happily done with it. E. In fact, the only thing you do know for sure is that you sent a rude message to a total stranger. So what have we learned? (Probably nothing. Sigh.) Edited March 12, 2012 by serial muse
Author PhillyDude Posted March 12, 2012 Author Posted March 12, 2012 A. You have no idea whether this person may have gotten more than one piece of hate mail. B. You have no idea whether this person is actually a man or not. C. You have no idea why this person left the site, assuming he or she did, in fact, leave the site, because you also don't know that for sure. D. Along those lines, you have no idea whether this person might have left the site because he or she found somebody and was thus happily done with it. E. In fact, the only thing you do know for sure is that you sent a rude message to a total stranger. So what have we learned? (Probably nothing. Sigh.) I learned that gay men are sneaky and guys have to be careful
serial muse Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I learned that gay men are sneaky and guys have to be careful = nothing.
kaylan Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Obviously OP was not funny and way too rude, but the amount of political correctness in this thread is cringeworhty. Of course any human being should have a shot at finding love. But is it really fair towards her partner to hide stuff like that? Is it fair to have a guy contact her, like her, maybe even develop feelings for her, take her to a restaurant, have hourlong conversation and maybe even kiss her without knowing - excuse me for being pragmatic - she has a dick that may be bigger than his? In my opinion it isn't. There's plenty of guys who are open to dating her, but to trick a guy into it by pretending to biologically be a female is just not acceptable. 1. Who says she is hiding anything? The TG profiles Ive stumbled upon had it stated in their "about me" that they were in fact transgender. Even if its not stated, why would the OP assume this person is trying to fool anyone. If this person lives in NYC for instance, then many viewing her profile might know exactly what her situation is and what shes looking for. Is it necessary to send a rude email? 2. If this was not stated in the profile, how can OP be so sure this woman was a transwoman? She could have natural born female with strong features. If youve ever seen Maury, his show sometimes has episodes where you guess if the guests are really a natural born or transgendered woman. 3. Any time Ive heard stories about real life transgendered folks, they never hid who they are from prospective mates. I went to a rather liberal college with a sizeable LGBT community. So I usually heard about transgender people from my bi chick friends and the few gay guys I knew on campus. I was in a couple of campus organizations, so you usually end up making friends with people from other campus clubs. The LGBT community had a club called Queer Acton Coalition. And also, there was one transwoman on campus who was completely open and honest about who she was. Anyways, for someone to message this person in an attempt to poke fun at them is very immature. I sympathize with TS folks because they have such a hard time finding acceptance in society. Worse than natural born gay men and lesbian women....and I imagine its super confusing to be born in a body with a gender different from ones mind. Edited March 12, 2012 by kaylan 4
Red Arremer Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Gee, I can't imagine why a person would leave a dating site where people were sending her messages filled with hate speech (and yes, that's what your message was, hate speech, let's not beat around the bush or sugarcoat it). Life is hard enough for trans people without a**holes like you making it harder. 1
Red Arremer Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) Takes one to know one. Oh come on, surely you can do better than that. e: Unless that was directed at the OP, in which case lol Edited March 12, 2012 by Red Arremer
Diamonds&Rust Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Don't be ignorant, I find the whole TS/transgender thing repulsive but you have to respect them as human beings. Word! I think that's important to hear from someone who finds them repulsive, because I realize the kind of education I'd like to see occur here--one that would include not considering a male-to-female transsexual as a gay man passing them themselves off as a woman to fool you into turning gay--is a bit idealistic, given the circumstances. As for the OP, what's making it worse is that even though your responses have an air of "yeesh guys, I was only joking," you also maintain a persecutory and self-righteous tone, as though you really are the victim of some shadow deception to trick you into becoming gay against your (conscious) will. As for calling this political correctness, that very phrase is designed to generalize actions which are intrinsically individual. What other reason is there to generalize than to defer moral responsibility? Basically, if you see it as an issue of word choice and sensitivity rather than recognize an actual human being is on the other end his hurtful words, your problems are far from political in nature. To think that teaching him the right gender pronoun to use would solve this problem naively ignores the quality of life you gain from learning how to respect people's differences. The only thing political is the effort to weasel away from that burden because tradition requires repetition instead of reflection. 2
ascendotum Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 You should have gone out on a date with miss big hands. We would have got a better story out of this.
oaks Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 I was bored last night and came across this profile and the woman in it looked a little odd so I kept looking and realized he was a TS. Then I sent it a message saying "YOU AIN'T FOOLING NOBODY" LOL. It's probably against the community guidelines for me to call you a puerile moron so I'll refrain. Instead let me just praise you for your tolerance.
RedRobin Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Because i never saw anything like that on OKC ... and your response to you never seeing anything 'like that' on OkC is to reach out with hatred? Is that your standard response to things you've never seen or encountered before? You are hurting and you have to go smack someone else who did absolutely nothing to you? 2
Disenchantedly Yours Posted March 12, 2012 Posted March 12, 2012 Obviously OP was not funny and way too rude, but the amount of political correctness in this thread is cringeworhty. Of course any human being should have a shot at finding love. But is it really fair towards her partner to hide stuff like that? Is it fair to have a guy contact her, like her, maybe even develop feelings for her, take her to a restaurant, have hourlong conversation and maybe even kiss her without knowing - excuse me for being pragmatic - she has a dick that may be bigger than his? In my opinion it isn't. There's plenty of guys who are open to dating her, but to trick a guy into it by pretending to biologically be a female is just not acceptable. When did simple human respect of others become "political correctness"? We don't really know if she was hiding anything. But if she was, that would not be right. However, that still in no way justifies for PhillyDude to be sending prejudice emails. On the positive side, it is encouraging that so many people responded to PhillyDude pointing out the injustice he imparted on someone else. Yay for the rest of us. 1
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