Author kaylan Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 The truth is: Most women fake, at least sometimes. I think men can sometimes tell and sometimes not tell, depending on how the woman fakes and how well he knows her and so forth. I'm not assuming men NEVER know, but I think assuming you can ALWAYS tell if a woman is faking is just kind of naive and silly. Theres no way to really tell just how many women fake. Ive read surveys that say half do and half dont...or that 20 percent always do...and that 30 percent sometimes do...and other various figures. Some chicks do, and some dont. And some have never done it, and some always have. Simple really. And I think its equally silly to assume theres not a single guy out there who could tell when a chick fakes most of the time, if not all. I think its quite possible for a sexually attentive, generous, and skillful dude to be able to tell. Especially if the women he is with, usually get off.
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Im telling you about muscles in general. Spastic and involuntary muscle contractions arent something that can just be easily faked. Keep telling yourself they can recreate the real thing just because dunce males let you believe so. I really wasnt aware so many guys out there were still in the dark...but at the same time I wasnt aware so many sexually selfish guys were still out there. Listen, 25 year old man, I've been having orgasms for 20 years (since a very young age!). I'm pretty aware of what happens in my body. I even know how the contractions feel when I orgasm, because I've had my fingers in there when it happened! I also know that sometimes when I orgasm, my contractions aren't strong at all though it feels amazing. You'd probably think I'm faking it sometimes when I'm actually orgasming! I know what I'm talking about when I say I can do it!
zengirl Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Theres no way to really tell just how many women fake. Ive read surveys that say half do and half dont...or that 20 percent always do...and that 30 percent sometimes do...and other various figures. Some chicks do, and some dont. And some have never done it, and some always have. Simple really. And I think its equally silly to assume theres not a single guy out there who could tell when a chick fakes most of the time, if not all. I think its quite possible for a sexually attentive, generous, and skillful dude to be able to tell. Especially if the women he is with, usually get off. I do think sometimes men can tell. However, I think if there is a guy who can tell when women fake it, he's probably not a guy who's talking about how super-sure he can on the internet (or even being really sure he can). I think he'd need the humility to consider the fact that it was very likely he couldn't tell in order to tell----so kind of a Catch 22.
Author kaylan Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 Listen, 25 year old man, I've been having orgasms for 20 years (since a very young age!). I'm pretty aware of what happens in my body. I even know how the contractions feel when I orgasm, because I've had my fingers in there when it happened! I also know that sometimes when I orgasm, my contractions aren't strong at all though it feels amazing. You'd probably think I'm faking it sometimes when I'm actually orgasming! I know what I'm talking about when I say I can do it! I wish youd stop acting as if a 25 year old cannot truly know about sexuality. Im not a kid anymore lol. Though someone your age prolly sees me as a kid. Lol Ive had my fingers in the same place when a chicks orgasms. You keep telling yourself no man could ever tell. Im telling you that its impossible to fool every single man. Some men will know, and some will know and not say anything. Most guys who know dont say anything to avoid making the chick feel stupid. Again I ask you, you wanna tell me my friends are lying about noticing a chick faking? And these are chicks with experience. Not spring chickens. Either way, you think you can fool me, I dont think you can, but theres no way for either of us to truly know who would be right. So thats that I guess. And youre right! There prolly have been times where I thought a girl was exaggerating and she was actually having an orgasm. The whole faking thing is stupid in general. But I cant blame solely the woman obviously. A big part of the reason women fake is do silly expectations from men or guys being inattentive. Thats how it is I guess. I personally dont understand how a man or woman wouldnt care to have mutually satisfying sex with their partner. I never understood it. Too many sexually selfish people out there, especially like one earlier posters current bf. I wish people wouldnt put up with it. I do think sometimes men can tell. However, I think if there is a guy who can tell when women fake it, he's probably not a guy who's talking about how super-sure he can on the internet (or even being really sure he can). I think he'd need the humility to consider the fact that it was very likely he couldn't tell in order to tell----so kind of a Catch 22. Meh @ catch 22. Im just saying its super possible to tell and if the chick does, its no hair off my back because I tried to give us a good times and her behavior is unnecessary and immature. I understand the reality of female sexuality and I dont need my ego stroked. If she doesnt come, she doesnt come. I dont always either. No biggie.
BewitchedandBothered Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I do think the younger the girl, the more likely she is to fake an O, or exaggerate her true interest in sex (ex; saying what she thinks the guy wants to hear/will think is sexy). That certainly doesn't mean young women don't orgasm or enjoy sex!! I *probably* wouldn't really believe that a gal was getting off in 10 min *every* time she had sex / oral. Maaaybe there's some girls like that out there, but they'd def be the vast minority...and probably faking.... Agreed. Porn has made these girls think that that is what they have to do in bed and are so busy acting that the guy gets off, but she doesn't. Some fake it to get it the hell over with because some guys are lousy in bed. I would like to meet the gal who gets off in 10 minutes every time she has sex/oral. better yet, I want to meet the fellow capable of doing this. the only thing that can do this in 2 minutes takes batteries. And you never have to wait for it to call you in the morning, lOL!!!! 5
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Agreed. Porn has made these girls think that that is what they have to do in bed and are so busy acting that the guy gets off, but she doesn't. Some fake it to get it the hell over with because some guys are lousy in bed. I would like to meet the gal who gets off in 10 minutes every time she has sex/oral. better yet, I want to meet the fellow capable of doing this. the only thing that can do this in 2 minutes takes batteries. And you never have to wait for it to call you in the morning, lOL!!!! lol, love this!
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I wish youd stop acting as if a 25 year old cannot truly know about sexuality. Im not a kid anymore lol. Though someone your age prolly sees me as a kid. well, I'm only a couple of years older than you but yeah, I might still see you as a kid lol
Author kaylan Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 Agreed. Porn has made these girls think that that is what they have to do in bed and are so busy acting that the guy gets off, but she doesn't. Some fake it to get it the hell over with because some guys are lousy in bed. I would like to meet the gal who gets off in 10 minutes every time she has sex/oral. better yet, I want to meet the fellow capable of doing this. the only thing that can do this in 2 minutes takes batteries. And you never have to wait for it to call you in the morning, lOL!!!! Its not hard for plenty of chicks out there to get off in ten minutes or so with a guy theyve been with a while who knows what she likes. Ive read and heard plenty of testimony from chicks on this fact. If I had said 2 minutes, I could understand people being skeptical...but 10 minutes is enough time and a female poster agree with this a few pages back. Its not like this is happening with every chick I am with. And it didnt happen right away with my ex. We learned each others bodies and found out exactly what worked. well, I'm only a couple of years older than you but yeah, I might still see you as a kid lol A couple of years? And you say you have 20 years of sex experience? What little kid is trying to get frisky at that age?
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 A couple of years? And you say you have 20 years of sex experience? What little kid is trying to get frisky at that age? Lol, not sex, orgasm (masturbation) experience.
xxoo Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I'm sure there are some expert fakers out there, lol. But I've never faked. I've never understood the point. About 10 minutes....that is fine IF I am already warmed up. But most of the time, I am not warmed up. I come to bed thinking about work, the house, bills, kids, etc, and it can take 10 minutes of foreplay just to make my mind SHUT UP and truly get into it. My H, otoh, comes to bed thinking about sex And even though he is a fantastic lover, sometimes he is so horny that he doesn't notice that I'm not very turned on yet. He is truly an attentive lover, and will slow down and change course when I tell him "You are way ahead of me!", but the fog of high arousal can make it difficult for him to see outside his own arousal. Does that make sense?
Author kaylan Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 Lol, not sex, orgasm (masturbation) experience. still kinda gross...ewww lol.
xxoo Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 still kinda gross...ewww lol. Lots of girls start very young. It's normal.
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 still kinda gross...ewww lol. Why? it's extremely common among kids. They don't know what they are doing, they don't even have any attraction to the opposite sex, they just know what they are doing feels very good.
mesmerized Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Lots of girls start very young. It's normal. I've seen little boys doing it too, its hilarious, they have no clue they shouldn't do it in front of others.
darkmoon Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I'm sure there are some expert fakers out there, lol. But I've never faked. I've never understood the point. About 10 minutes....that is fine IF I am already warmed up. But most of the time, I am not warmed up. I come to bed thinking about work, the house, bills, kids, etc, and it can take 10 minutes of foreplay just to make my mind SHUT UP and truly get into it. My H, otoh, comes to bed thinking about sex And even though he is a fantastic lover, sometimes he is so horny that he doesn't notice that I'm not very turned on yet. He is truly an attentive lover, and will slow down and change course when I tell him "You are way ahead of me!", but the fog of high arousal can make it difficult for him to see outside his own arousal. Does that make sense? apparently not
xxoo Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I've seen little boys doing it too, its hilarious, they have no clue they shouldn't do it in front of others. I'm sure they do, but I don't have first hand experience
Author kaylan Posted March 9, 2012 Author Posted March 9, 2012 Why? it's extremely common among kids. They don't know what they are doing, they don't even have any attraction to the opposite sex, they just know what they are doing feels very good. Its just weird lol...omg...and kids have bad hygiene as it is...prolly diddling themselves and then touch everything after. gross lolz
xxoo Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Its just weird lol...omg...and kids have bad hygiene as it is...prolly diddling themselves and then touch everything after. gross lolz Oh, they've got way more disgusting stuff on their little fingers.... But, yeah, try not to think about it
Star Gazer Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 If anything, the longest Ive ever done foreplay on a girl is 20 minutes. Ive never received foreplay longer than that either. After a while we either get off or both of us wanna get down to the main course...and Ive never heard of anything more than a half hour of foreplay being the general average norm. A few hours??? Get outta here. I would be sore or bored if I did foreplay for a few hours. Giving or receiving. It sounds like you think foreplay is limited to oral sex? Good foreplay lasts allllll day. 5
FrustratedStandards Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I forget your situation...is it that you have never had an orgasm ever? Or that you can by yourself but not with a guy? I have never had a vaginal orgasm. I have had clitoral orgasms only by myself, never from a man. Also, even if a guy does finish, it doesnt mean the girl was any good. Theres a difference between an orgasm, and just busting a nut. Ive had sex that was super bad and I had to will myself to orgasm. I basically got out from doing PC muscle contractions and tensing some muscles because the girl didnt feel good and also had no passion. But mesmerized has a point. Most guys (most) really can't tell. And this isn't counting the really obvious fakers like the kind of girls you see in porn. I bet you have had girls fake before too, and you thought they were genuine. Now i'm not saying this is always the case, but i'm saying it has happened in the past, and you didn't catch it. Especially since you are young (mid 20's if i'm not mistaken?) I presume that some of your sex partners have been of the same age. So a fake orgasm must have happened without your knowing it. I can guarantee it. I'm not implying in any way that you are a bad lover. Nor that you're "absent minded". Hell, I wouldn't even be able to tell if a woman was faking or not if I was right there watching! Some women are just really good at faking (and faking doesn't mean 100% false, they could still be very aroused and enjoying themselves). Much like how a guy can will himself to come, a woman might fake. Like you said, it's not a real orgasm but "busting a nut". In a sense, a woman's faking is the equivalent of that. Edited March 9, 2012 by FrustratedStandards
Titania22 Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 I have never had a vaginal orgasm. I have had clitoral orgasms only by myself, never from a man. Some women are just really good at faking (and faking doesn't mean 100% false, they could still be very aroused and enjoying themselves). Much like how a guy can will himself to come, a woman might fake. Like you said, it's not a real orgasm but "busting a nut". In a sense, a woman's faking is the equivalent of that. I have also never had a vaginal orgasm. These days I get really aroused and enjoy myself, and make lots of noise (from enjoyment). But I never (and have never) faked. Once a couple years back, a guy actual thought I had had an orgasm (I guess I get really into it), which surprised me since I didn't and I am not of the mind to even think of faking.
Els Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 Its not hard for plenty of chicks out there to get off in ten minutes or so with a guy theyve been with a while who knows what she likes. Ive read and heard plenty of testimony from chicks on this fact. A guy or chick whos generous, attentive and skilled with their oral set, really wont have much issues getting someone off in ten minutes. 10 minutes is PLENTY of time to get off if youre with someone whos got pro skillz. I think the claim most of us are disputing isn't that 'it's possible' - of course it is. It's your insinuation that if a woman doesn't get off in 10 minutes, there's something wrong with the guy. I especially dispute the bolded - I really don't think it's common for most women to go from zero to orgasm in less than 10 minutes. The 'skill' of their partner has little or nothing to do with it. In fact, IMO 'skill' is not related at all to how quickly you can bring your partner to orgasm, but rather to how pleasurable the entire experience is. And often, going slow and taking your time is needed for the latter. I do agree with your original premise that the posters who make blanket statements about 'young women not enjoying sex' are likely speaking out of their asses, or have a whole bunch of sour grapes due to not getting any themselves. 1
Star Gazer Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 If anything, the longest Ive ever done foreplay on a girl is 20 minutes. A guy or chick whos generous, attentive and skilled with their oral set, really wont have much issues getting someone off in ten minutes. 10 minutes is PLENTY of time to get off if youre with someone whos got pro skillz. So, are you saying you don't have "pro skillz"?
FrustratedStandards Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Once a couple years back, a guy actual thought I had had an orgasm (I guess I get really into it), which surprised me since I didn't and I am not of the mind to even think of faking. I've had this experience too. It's funny because one particular time, I told the guy that I never orgasmed. He didn't believe me! (Why would I lie?!) He said he knows when a girl comes, and "I know you came". ...but I didn't. I wasn't about to argue with him, but this just proves a point. They think they know. So, are you saying you don't have "pro skillz"? lol Edited March 9, 2012 by FrustratedStandards
darkmoon Posted March 9, 2012 Posted March 9, 2012 i've been pleasured by the touch of a rubber glove, the feel of rabbit fur (not now, veggiegirl) a short man who fitted me like a glove as i too am short, a quicke at a family Christmas, Tracy Lords exercise video my point is there is not just one womanly response, not just one sort of orgasm, and yes, if a man, a one night stand, doesn't quite do it, i'll fake to be polite, by to my SO, i am honest
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