Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I agree that CL is a better option than a club. OP usually tries to "trick" girls into thinking he's interested in them, and so far, it doesn't work. If you play the "desperate" tact, and place an ad on CL, maybe some benevolent young lady will have mercy on you and give you a whirl. Beg.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 When I've had one night stands with guys I've met them from Craigslist; not clubs. Most of the ads on Craigslist are fakes or spammers but I am actually a real person who placed an ad on there and not fat either (size 0 over here). I prefer meeting a guy on CL because I filter guys by sexual preferences (want to make sure we are both into the same things). Nothing wrong with wanting a one night stand. However you have to know how to please a woman. Otherwise why would she want to meet up with you from the thousands of guys out there? Never had a one night stand from a club because I find that scenario awkward. I prefer filtering out the guys from Craigslist (sexual preferences are more important to me) whereas in person you can't really ask them what they are into off the bat. Do you place the ad, or answer ads? I don't think I have ever heard about a guy answering an ad from a real girl on CL who didn't turn out to be either a pro or a nightmare. I have heard of girls finding what they were looking for by answering ads placed by guys, though.
silvermercy Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 This is a very nice article/experiment about craigslist. It sums it up all! Just copy/paste the below: mashable.com/2010/08/03/craigslist-casual-encounters/
kaylan Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 OP, spray Axe body spray on your penis. It never fails. Its like cat nip for ladies. I swear whenever I go out with the stuff on, that girls practically maul my crotch. Im super serious. Scouts honor. Plus why would I or the commercials lie to you about its effects? 1
Author U1987 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 Maybe because all those girls are only interested in serious ACTUAL dating? And not one night stands? Most likely, but the thing is I didn't even hint that I just wanted to hook up. I really acted like I wanted to date. It's not like I messaged them saying "hey baby wanna bang?" or some stupid **** like that. It's not that going out with them was terrible, it's just that I wanted some return for my effort. I think I remember you posting here your online profile here for advice. It was definitely not a "dating" profile. Everything I wrote in my profile is true. The way it was worded and arranged was the result of months of input and experimentation based on advice given by other posters here. My first profile was too bland and stale. I was told to liven it up. My second profile was too over-the-top. I was told to tone it down a bit. My third profile had dipped back into bland and stale again. I was told to liven it up but just slightly again. My fourth profile was basically my third profile but I was told to rearrange the paragraphs. If you didn't like any of them, well, it was designed based on input from people on here. So, I agree with the rest, hire an escort (they're not that expensive). I work part time and in college; yes they are.
Author U1987 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 OP, why not try CL or AFF for a ONS? Put it out there and package yourself for consumption and you'll be consumed. Good luck. I've explained this before; AFF is a scam. The vast majority of female profiles are fakes, made by the company. They text you right as your membership is about to expire and ghost as soon as you pay the the $30 for another month. Men VASTLY outnumber women, and the women gravitate towards only a small percentage of me. There's even a rating and recommendation system based on sexual performance, which screws you even further because if you have no ratings or recommendations, women completely breeze by you, which diminishes your chances of meeting anyone to actually get the rating. And I thought CL took down their hookup page after some psycho robbed and murdered some women he met on there.
silvermercy Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Most likely, but the thing is I didn't even hint that I just wanted to hook up. I really acted like I wanted to date. It's not like I messaged them saying "hey baby wanna bang?" or some stupid **** like that. It's not that going out with them was terrible, it's just that I wanted some return for my effort.I guess they were smart enough to realize the lie. Everything I wrote in my profile is true. The way it was worded and arranged was the result of months of input and experimentation based on advice given by other posters here. My first profile was too bland and stale. I was told to liven it up. My second profile was too over-the-top. I was told to tone it down a bit. My third profile had dipped back into bland and stale again. I was told to liven it up but just slightly again. My fourth profile was basically my third profile but I was told to rearrange the paragraphs. If you didn't like any of them, well, it was designed based on input from people on here.Of course I didn't like any of them. Nothing to "lure" me in. But then again, I'm not looking for anything casual. Just like your average woman. I work part time and in college; yes they are.Then you're effed? Sorry.
Author U1987 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 Sex is a buisiness, miss. You're buying a woman regadless of what you do. You either buy her time and simply sex her. Or you buy her time by wine/dinning, taking her to an event, maybe get her a gift/flowers, etc. Even if you do all these things, there is no guarantee your penis will be in her vagina by the end of the night. So you just spent your money carelessly. A woman of the night prevents all that. She has a product, you purchase it. Done deal. This is how business works. He wants sex, this is a cost effective way to do so. Not sure why you find this funny. I agree that all men pay one way or another, but the thing is I live in a state where hiring a prostitute is a sex-crime. You're permanently blacklisted for life alongside rapists and child molesters if you're caught with a prostitute here.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) I agree that all men pay one way or another, but the thing is I live in a state where hiring a prostitute is a sex-crime. You're permanently blacklisted for life alongside rapists and child molesters if you're caught with a prostitute here. So, if you are not willing to break that law, you are going to have to just accept the fact that you are not offering what any girls want. Deal with it. Edited to add: Just checked CL and there are dozens of ads from guys just like you on the "Casual Encounters" page. Go for it. Edited February 20, 2012 by Mme. Chaucer
carhill Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Would CL's 'casual encounter' area work for you? I still see that. It sounds like AFF shares the same issues I found in more 'traditional' OLD sites like Yahoo before they merged into Match, as well as Match. So, typical buyer beware and due diligence protocols apply. You might also search out and pursue niche connection sites for certain sexual behaviors like BDSM, etc.. Change it up a bit and see how it goes.
Author U1987 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) I have a hard time believing you messaged over 200 chicks and only got 4 dates. Sounds like your approach needs working on. Are you the kind of guy who just sees a pic then messages some cheesy one-liner? My first few dozen messages were sincere, highly personalized messages. Those actually had the worst results; very few responses and no dates from those. The next 200 or so were mostly copy-paste, but they weren't one liners. Here's how my messages went (the blank parts were things that came to my mind after reading their profile Hey _______, I'm ______. What's good? Your profile really stood off the page; you come off as _______, _______, and _______. I like that. I also really appreciate anyone who's into _______; I'm into _______ myself. Anyway I think we'd have fun getting to know each other a little more, so hit me up. Have a good one!The last 40 messages I sent were all hybrids; part personalized, part copy-paste. It was the same as the message I posted above but with another 2 or 3 sentences that I'd improvise. You have to spend time reading a girl's profile and then determining if she seems interesting enough to you to put in some real effort: such as writing something unique for her, not just some copy and paste introduction. You need to show that you're intelligent, possess a good sense of humour, and are not desperate (i.e., you have your own innate confidence). In short, you need to separate yourself from the pack; otherwise, women aren't going to give you the time of day (they already receive enough of the same from hundreds of other guys.) Seduce her mind.I would create a message that was "unique to her" and "seduce her mind," IF she gave me the opportunity to. The thing is, the vast majority of OLD profiles for 18-25 year old women don't afford that opportunity. I don't know if you know this, but a very large amount of girls in these sites barely post anything at all about themselves. Here's a standard profile for an 18-25 year old in my area. Currently enrolled at ______, I'm pursuing a degree in communication with a public relations focus and a minor in graphic design. I'm a raver, and I'm all about having a good time.That's the ENTIRE PROFILE. There's nothing else. Some girls don't even write anything at all in their profiles; it's only their pictures. How can you write a sincere, personal message to a girl like this when she barely gives you anything to work with? It was the consensus on here that it's impossible to and that the copy-paste form-letter is the only way to effectively message these girls for the first time. Edited February 20, 2012 by U1987
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Do you still not understand that you have to SELL yourself and you have to seem to have something to CONNECT with in order to successfully SELL YOURSELF?? Trying different formulae to try to somehow maneuver another person into a situation you want them to be in, for your USE, is not going to happen. Stupendously sexy guys get one night stands. You just come off as completely clinically cold and calculating, to the point of being predatory. It's probably lucky for the girls that you seem to have a poor skill set in the predator department.
jerbear Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Many college students are about to start their tests now. Mid-terms or finals depending on graduate or undergraduate. Give it another week. You might be pleasantly surprised.
reptilelover88 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Damn, this thread frustrates me. At the moment I'm horny as hell and really want a one night stand. Unfortunately, in the UK it's not as easy for girls as you might think, despite the fact that I'm considered quite attractive (long blonde hair, green eyes, 35-24-35 etc). Guys hardly ever approach and I'm unwilling to do so unless I'm paralytically drunk. I understand the difficulties that guys face, but it's not necessarily easy for girls either! 1
silvermercy Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Do you still not understand that you have to SELL yourself and you have to seem to have something to CONNECT with in order to successfully SELL YOURSELF?? Trying different formulae to try to somehow maneuver another person into a situation you want them to be in, for your USE, is not going to happen. Stupendously sexy guys get one night stands. You just come off as completely clinically cold and calculating, to the point of being predatory. It's probably lucky for the girls that you seem to have a poor skill set in the predator department. I agree OP. That's the vibe I got as well. In addition, your style still needs some more work (i.e. "what's good"? "have a good one"?) I know what you mean but it doesn't sound very... "eloquent"... On the other hand, I agree with Mme. Chaucer, maybe it's better for the girls, as you do give those cold predator vibes...
Star Gazer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Stupendously sexy guys get one night stands. You just come off as completely clinically cold and calculating, to the point of being predatory. It's probably lucky for the girls that you seem to have a poor skill set in the predator department. Yup. Kiss the Girls.
Author U1987 Posted February 20, 2012 Author Posted February 20, 2012 Yup. Kiss the Girls. Wow, that is beyond psychotic; wanting to have sex is predatory? 1
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Wow, that is beyond psychotic; wanting to have sex is predatory? If you're a "down on your luck" guy on these boards? Yes. You've posted here long enough to understand this. 1
Star Gazer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Wow, that is beyond psychotic; wanting to have sex is predatory? Wanting to have sex, in a vacuum, is not predatory. We're all sexual beings. However, what you're doing is calculatingly manipulating women to use them for sex. That's predatory. And the fact that you're not getting any, despite employing your techniques with 283 women who've rejected your advances, tells me that they can smell your hunger and their self-preservation, run-for-their-life instinct is kicking in.
Janesays Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 An unattractive girl with a low self esteem and possibly a std might do you. Close your eyes and pretend she's hot. I'm sure she'll be pretending you're nice so you should be even.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Wanting to have sex, in a vacuum, is not predatory. We're all sexual beings. However, what you're doing is calculatingly manipulating women to use them for sex. That's predatory. And the fact that you're not getting any, despite employing your techniques with 283 women who've rejected your advances, tells me that they can smell your hunger and their self-preservation, run-for-their-life instinct is kicking in. And please note that most of the women, at least, here on LS, are picking up on it very clearly. So you're definitely putting it out there. It's not alluring. Women who sense it run far and fast.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 The reason why you never hear of it happening is because most of the ads on there are spammers or prostitutes etc. BUT once in a while there are REAL women posting ads on there; however I got bombarded with responses and only ended picking out one person... so not only is it difficult for a guy to find a real ad; it's different to be selected too. Why don't you give the OP some pointers? I think he'll need to place his own ad though. I don't see him navigating through all the spam & pros on the WfM section.
InJest Posted February 21, 2012 Posted February 21, 2012 U1987, I have a guaranteed method for you. Win the lottery and put on 20 lbs of muscle. You've got 3 days, better get crackin.
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