U1987 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I'm really sick, tired and utterly disappointed with online dating. I really thought it would be a good way to meet girls and I really, sincerely tried for months to make it work. In about 8 months, I only had 4 dates and none of us ever hooked up, even after messaging 283 girls. I've exhausted every single girl that I find attractive in a 25 mile radius of me. I really don't want to drive further to date, but OKC keeps tabs on who you've messaged and who's messaged you, so I can't talk to them again. It's going to be a long while until there's a decent amount of new girls to message. I really just want to give OLD a rest and just want to hook up. If I went to a nice, upscale club later next week, what would it take to have a one night stand?
Ninjainpajamas Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Man..at this point I'd just recommend a prostitute/escort, at least you'll get your moneys worth instead of invest time in all that effort. You can't just go somewhere or do something and it's just going to equate a one-night stand, your best bet is going to a grungy bar and going home with some bar whore. What makes you think you're going to get anywhere with a woman at an upscale club when you can't even make it happen on 4 dates? It doesn't work that way either, and I'm not going to go into it...pretty sad/desperate post because it's about getting laid one night. You should really be trying to figure out why you can't connect with these women, 286 messages? that's making you sound realllllly creepy right now, at least to me. 5
Titania22 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 You should really be trying to figure out why you can't connect with these women, 286 messages? that's making you sound realllllly creepy right now, at least to me. I think he means to 286 different women.
silvermercy Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Maybe because all those girls are only interested in serious ACTUAL dating? And not one night stands? I think I remember you posting here your online profile here for advice. It was definitely not a "dating" profile. So I agree, the girls can see right through you. Either online or later in your.... "dates". Which, for them at least, must be a good thing. Sorry but it's true. Most girls online (and off-line) are usually not interested in random hookups so the only thing you'll manage is to frustrate yourself further. So, I agree with the rest, hire an escort (they're not that expensive).
carhill Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 OP, why not try CL or AFF for a ONS? Put it out there and package yourself for consumption and you'll be consumed. Good luck.
Fondue Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Craigslist worked for a few of my friends, and some people I know online. If you're really good looking and have a nice body, you can probably get a woman to get with you for free. If you don't, there seem to be cheap (comparingly so) prostitutes that'll make quick business of you. Instead of going to a bar/club, buy expensive drinks, trying to woo a woman (and possibly buy drinks for her), get a cab (if you're safe), etc. etc., you can probably buy a girl for a cheaper price, with less conversation, and a more pleasurable time. Think about it.
silvermercy Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Craigslist worked for a few of my friends, and some people I know online. If you're really good looking and have a nice body, you can probably get a woman to get with you for free. If you don't, there seem to be cheap (comparingly so) prostitutes that'll make quick business of you. Instead of going to a bar/club, buy expensive drinks, trying to woo a woman (and possibly buy drinks for her), get a cab (if you're safe), etc. etc., you can probably buy a girl for a cheaper price, with less conversation, and a more pleasurable time. Think about it. Yes, OP, why don't you go BUY a woman!? lol
Fondue Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Yes, OP, why don't you go BUY a woman!? lol Sex is a buisiness, miss. You're buying a woman regadless of what you do. You either buy her time and simply sex her. Or you buy her time by wine/dinning, taking her to an event, maybe get her a gift/flowers, etc. Even if you do all these things, there is no guarantee your penis will be in her vagina by the end of the night. So you just spent your money carelessly. A woman of the night prevents all that. She has a product, you purchase it. Done deal. This is how business works. He wants sex, this is a cost effective way to do so. Not sure why you find this funny. 2
silvermercy Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Sex is a buisiness, miss. You're buying a woman regadless of what you do. You either buy her time and simply sex her. Or you buy her time by wine/dinning, taking her to an event, maybe get her a gift/flowers, etc. Even if you do all these things, there is no guarantee your penis will be in her vagina by the end of the night. So you just spent your money carelessly. A woman of the night prevents all that. She has a product, you purchase it. Done deal. This is how business works. He wants sex, this is a cost effective way to do so. Not sure why you find this funny. I actually don't find it funny. I find it sad that some men actually think this way. But I shouldn't be surprised. 1
carhill Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 OP, I forgot to add, prior, that I'm impressed with your tenacity in pursuit of online dating prospects. Good show, even with the less than satisfying results. Even if you're not every woman's 'perfect man', I think you can still do well for 'free' by exploring and developing some 'kink' and connecting on that level with like-minded women on sites not devoted to dating and relationships. Come at it from a different angle. Regarding 'buying women', I did do some post-D numbers crunching and the preliminary results are that a maid definitely would have been affordable but the hooker less clear, dependent on current market conditions. A couple times a month would have been no issue. In fact, what I spent on MC could have easily paid for a year of such services (200 x 2 x 12) and it would have been a lot more 'pleasurable', though I doubt I would have learned anything like in MC. OP, why not, instead of 'clubs', try concerts, fairs, flea markets, etc....anywhere women frequent. Can't hurt. If you're a little 'kinky' and different, you might attract what you're looking for. Good luck.
Oxy Moronovich Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Sex is a buisiness, miss. You're buying a woman regadless of what you do. You either buy her time and simply sex her. Or you buy her time by wine/dinning, taking her to an event, maybe get her a gift/flowers, etc. Even if you do all these things, there is no guarantee your penis will be in her vagina by the end of the night. So you just spent your money carelessly. A woman of the night prevents all that. She has a product, you purchase it. Done deal. This is how business works. He wants sex, this is a cost effective way to do so. Not sure why you find this funny. The pro of seeing an escort is many women will list what she will and won't do sexually. And what turns her on and off. So you already know what you're getting into. She also sometimes put what costs extra and what's included in the bargain, as well as the overall price. Sometimes I wish all women did that.
ja123 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I have a hard time believing you messaged over 200 chicks and only got 4 dates. Sounds like your approach needs working on. Are you the kind of guy who just sees a pic then messages some cheesy one-liner? You have to spend time reading a girl's profile and then determining if she seems interesting enough to you to put in some real effort: such as writing something unique for her, not just some copy and paste introduction. You need to show that you're intelligent, possess a good sense of humour, and are not desperate (i.e., you have your own innate confidence). In short, you need to separate yourself from the pack; otherwise, women aren't going to give you the time of day (they already receive enough of the same from hundreds of other guys.) Seduce her mind. In addition, your profile has to be enticing: showing that you're intelligent, fun, but don't take yourself too seriously. Frame it in terms of what a great guy you are with a great life and that you're open to meeting a great woman to share it with. If the first two statement are untrue, then start working on yourself to create that reality. Invest in yourself. The future has a way of paying us back for good investments. Good luck!
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I don't know why so many people are being so negative OP. You're looking for some fun and online dating hasn't worked. I don't know what to tell you, but good luck. The negative people in this thread need to lighten up.
silvermercy Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I have a hard time believing you messaged over 200 chicks and only got 4 dates. Sounds like your approach needs working on. Are you the kind of guy who just sees a pic then messages some cheesy one-liner? You have to spend time reading a girl's profile and then determining if she seems interesting enough to you to put in some real effort: such as writing something unique for her, not just some copy and paste introduction. You need to show that you're intelligent, possess a good sense of humour, and are not desperate (i.e., you have your own innate confidence). In short, you need to separate yourself from the pack; otherwise, women aren't going to give you the time of day (they already receive enough of the same from hundreds of other guys.) Seduce her mind. In addition, your profile has to be enticing: showing that you're intelligent, fun, but don't take yourself too seriously. Frame it in terms of what a great guy you are with a great life and that you're open to meeting a great woman to share it with. If the first two statement are untrue, then start working on yourself to create that reality. Invest in yourself. The future has a way of paying us back for good investments. Good luck! Good advice. But I don't think he's interested in dating though...
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I have a hard time believing you messaged over 200 chicks and only got 4 dates. Sounds like your approach needs working on. The OP is a red-flag-fest and the flags are very easy to spot from a mile away. He gives off the vibe of "do not EVER find yourself alone with me." I've got this vibe from ALL of his posts. There is absolutely zero acknowledgement of women as fellow human beings, or that he might be expected to have anything at all to offer them. Even good ONS sex. None. It's just about frustration and anger. He wants something, women can provide it, he feels entitled to it, so WHY are the women not falling into line? It is beyond creepy. Women have a sense of self-preservation that steers them away. 5
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I don't know why so many people are being so negative OP. You're looking for some fun and online dating hasn't worked. I don't know what to tell you, but good luck. The negative people in this thread need to lighten up. There is not going to be any "fun," believe me.
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 There is not going to be any "fun," believe me. Maybe you're right. But I don't think OP's attitude is the problem. From his other threads and posts he seems like a nice enough guy (nice in the general sense not in the "I'm a nice guy no one wants me" sense).
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Maybe you're right. But I don't think OP's attitude is the problem. From his other threads and posts he seems like a nice enough guy (nice in the general sense not in the "I'm a nice guy no one wants me" sense). I strongly disagree. And I'm not coming from a place of being against having sex for fun.
ja123 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 ... I don't think he's interested in dating though... Then, he's going to have to pony up and shell out for a pro.
ja123 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 I don't know why so many people are being so negative OP. You're looking for some fun and online dating hasn't worked. I don't know what to tell you, but good luck. The negative people in this thread need to lighten up. Are you saying that my original post is negative, or that I'm somehow negative? If so, I disagree.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Then, he's going to have to pony up and shell out for a pro. That's what I say. Maybe it will take the "edge" off so he won't be so alarming to regular girls in the future.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 OP, what you never seem to get through your head is that a one night stand, or anything involving another person (even if the other person is a WOMAN!!) is a 2 way street. There have to be TWO PEOPLE ON THE EXACT SAME PAGE. You can't make it happen through force, will or coercion. Somebody else needs to WANT to have a one night stand with YOU. Unless, of course, you resort to trying to haul off an incoherently drunk woman or to slipping somebody a roofie, which I have a very uncomfortable feeling that you would actually consider. DON'T. There are a very, very few men who can go out and get a one night stand on demand. Have you been reading the posts here on LoveShack since you've been here?
KathyM Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 So the guy (OP) has scared off every woman in a 25 mile radius because they think he's a user and not interested in an actual relationship. He'd have better luck by changing his mindset from a consumer of women, which I'm sure he's come across as to these women, to changing it to someone who actually wants to get to know women and has a genuine liking for women. Women don't want to be used. But if he actually had the mindset of wanting a relationship and came across to women that way, I'm sure there would be those that would give it up early on in the relationship. So I'm suggesting he change his mindset to wanting a relationship and the sex will follow. Now that he's scared off every woman in the online dating pool, he'll have to go out and meet them in public. Try a club, or any place women hang out. Having sex with a prostitute who doesn't actually want to have sex with you, but is doing so for money, is not a very satisfying experience. Pursue women who actually want a man, but you'll probably need to get to know them a little bit before they'd be willing to have sex--or maybe not. A lot of women put out within the first few dates. Getting to know them first is a good thing, and worth the wait.
fortyninethousand322 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Are you saying that my original post is negative, or that I'm somehow negative? If so, I disagree. No. I wasn't talking about your post.
KathyM Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 The problem with CL, from what I've been told by men who tried that, is that most of the ads are fake, some are prostitutes, but some are also cops posing as prostitutes who will arrest you as soon as you put that money down. Those women on there who are not prostitutes, fakes or cops, who are just looking for a ONS have so many people contacting them, that you'd be hard pressed to find any luck on there.
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