FitChick Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I happened to spot this article and thought I'd post it here since there is so much angst among men about their height.
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I read that a while ago. Not much to go by and it actually insults short guys. "Shorty Pete Wentz might be a mere 5’6" Really now? Tips were basically, wear good clothes, have style (yes they mentioned clothes twice), work out and have confidence. Of course there is no mention of how to actually get confidence when you've been constantly rejected.
SmileFace Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Not this again. Can someone just start a "How to watch porn, while being short male and advoiding the friend zone." to cover various bases. 1
PlumPrincess Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I read that a while ago. Not much to go by and it actually insults short guys. "Shorty Pete Wentz might be a mere 5’6" Really now? Tips were basically, wear good clothes, have style (yes they mentioned clothes twice), work out and have confidence. Of course there is no mention of how to actually get confidence when you've been constantly rejected. I saw your picture. This is not what I would call a body that is working out.
123321 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 "I'm a lot taller when I stand on my wallet"
Badsingularity Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Believe you are awesome and you will be awesome It's all in your head. Confidence, selfesteem, what you believe about yourself is literally inside your own head. It's all under your control.
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I saw your picture. This is not what I would call a body that is working out. Just because I don't have a six pack or 20 inch biceps doesn't mean I don't work out...
Ranchero44 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Believe you are awesome and you will be awesome It's all in your head. Confidence, selfesteem, what you believe about yourself is literally inside your own head. It's all under your control. So true! I am not a super tall woman at 5'7", but I don't mind dating shorter men, and I have done so many times. It's an old cliche, but when you start to see someone's general personality and inner beauty, it really doesn't matter all that much. One thing that DOES bother me: Back when I used to online date, men mostly lied about their height. It is very embarrassing for both of us when we first meet to realize the guy is a full four inches shorter than he said he was. Then again, maybe the guy really does believe he is 5'10" instead of 5'3" . . . . who knows???? Also, I've heard from a number of men that women lie about their weight online, so I guess turnabout is fair play!
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 There is a reason many short men have poor confidence, and it's because they've been rejected by a lot of women. Thinking you're the boss when you haven't gotten laid in a three years is pretty delusional. men mostly lied about their height Of course they did. Because if they were honest, there is a huge chance they would have never gotten the date. When they lie, they get the date and hope that the woman isn't shallow enough to care that he's not as tall as he said he was.
Ranchero44 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 T Of course they did. Because if they were honest, there is a huge chance they would have never gotten the date. Yeah, that makes total sense, now that I think about it. Same reason women lie about their body type/weight. On a side note, though, a lot of the men I dated between 5'3" and 5'6" seriously, genuinely, for-real believed they were at least 5'9". For real. They could not be convinced otherwise. I just let it go.
phineas Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I saw your picture. This is not what I would call a body that is working out. ouch. i'm 5'8" I don't think it's a problem OFFLINE. Do I look like I work out? Just because I don't have a six pack or 20 inch biceps doesn't mean I don't work out... I only have a 2-pack & 14 1/2" biceps. anything over 12" will fill out a size small T-shirt sleeve & give the illusion of looking bigger. I stretch the sleeves of most M shirts. You don't need to be that big to look like you work out. It's all about proportions and fit of your clothes.
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Yeah, that makes total sense, now that I think about it. Same reason women lie about their body type/weight. On a side note, though, a lot of the men I dated between 5'3" and 5'6" seriously, genuinely, for-real believed they were at least 5'9". For real. They could not be convinced otherwise. I just let it go. Also, if a man lies about his height it's really possible to tell by looking at pictures. Though if a woman lies about her weight, one can usually tell that something is wrong, if the pictures are recent enough. Still believing that they are 4 inches taller than they really are is just goofy. But the easiest lie to tell is one that you believe in. ouch. i'm 5'8" I don't think it's a problem OFFLINE. Do I look like I work out? I only have a 2-pack & 14 1/2" biceps. anything over 12" will fill out a size small T-shirt sleeve & give the illusion of looking bigger. I stretch the sleeves of most M shirts. You don't need to be that big to look like you work out. It's all about proportions and fit of your clothes. She just said that because in the picture she's seen, I have a bit of a stomach. And she's using that assumption to believe that I don't work out. As if everybody in the gym has a flat stomach and looks ripped.
Badsingularity Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Thinking you're the boss when you haven't gotten laid in a three years is pretty delusional. Which is better? ( even if you think it is delusional thinking) Loving yourself, being happy, and thinking your an awesome person. All of which women find attractive. or Hating yourself, being negative, and thinking you suck. All of which repulse women. Your basing your self worth on your ability to get women. Not good. Try to base your self worth on something within yourself. That's what I do. 1
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Which is better? ( even if you think it is delusional thinking) Loving yourself, being happy, and thinking your an awesome person. All of which women find attractive. or Hating yourself, being negative, and thinking you suck. All of which repulse women. Your basing your self worth on your ability to get women. Not good. Try to base your self worth on something within yourself. That's what I do. So should I subject myself to repeated head injuries so I can start believing the former? Or maybe the trick is a lot of beer, plus some blow every now and then?
ThaWholigan Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Which is better? ( even if you think it is delusional thinking) Loving yourself, being happy, and thinking your an awesome person. All of which women find attractive. or Hating yourself, being negative, and thinking you suck. All of which repulse women. Exactly my point, as always. But, of course, it's "delusional" wooooooo.... Short men get laid all the time. I know so much short dudes, they get laid more than a lot of tall dudes I know . I always say they have Short Man Syndrome and thats why they try to outdo everyone. Little bro is exactly like that, girls every week of the year, girls are just drawn to him and he's tiny . It helps that he's quite stocky I suppose, and he's a good looking guy (he's my brother, of course he's good looking ). But it's not just that, it's the fact that he's confident, he teases, he makes jokes, he always smiles, he isn't super serious all the time. Girls like that.
Badsingularity Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 So should I subject myself to repeated head injuries so I can start believing the former? Or maybe the trick is a lot of beer, plus some blow every now and then? lol The trick is to find something about yourself that you do like or something that your good at and focus on those things. Think to yourself. "Hey I'm pretty good at that and not everybody is, that's pretty cool." There is nothing wrong with you man. Your not ugly. Your not stupid. Think about that. There are a lot of dumb guys out there. Your not one of them. That makes you more awesome than them. Also, if you can ever start facing your fears and beating them, that will give you another reason to think your awesome. Why? Because some people never do and you did.
johan Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 There is a reason many short men have poor confidence, and it's because they've been rejected by a lot of women. Getting rejected has no effect on your confidence. Taking it to heart does. You hurt yourself when you agree with what you think the reason for the rejection is. Your problem is that you reject yourself. But you want people to think women are the source of your problem. Having confidence doesn't mean never getting rejected again. It just means you bounce back from it quickly and are ready for the next round. And then not only do your chances go up because you're trying more, but people pick up on your resilience and find that attractive as well. You can get a woman when you're short and out of shape. 4
johan Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 So should I subject myself to repeated head injuries so I can start believing the former? Or maybe the trick is a lot of beer, plus some blow every now and then? The head injuries in this case are self-inflicted. No woman ever hurt you by turning you down. You didn't have to agree with her, "yeah, I'm too short." That's what hurts. When you believe her.
carhill Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 The guy who took the picture in my avatar was 'short guy' and pretty much followed those guidelines in the article and was married for a bit over 40 years until he died. His interest in looking his best is what evidently brought he and my mom together, as he shopped at a men's clothing store for his suits and met her there while she was working as a saleslady. Sure, times are different now but I think the article makes some valid points. BTW, dad was 5'8" and mom was 5'6" and wore spectators/pumps (heels) when she was young, so they were essentially the same height.
Imajerk17 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) The tips aren't bad. FWIW I'm 5'8" (or that is what I say on my online profile), but that is being generous. (1) The first thing is to realize that if you approach a woman with confidence, the height thing doesn't really matter. It doesn't, at least not that much. I'm sure women have rejected me due to my height, but as awesome as I might be (modest too), more women weren't into me because of what some might call my "game"--what I said or didn't say, my mannerisms, and so on. I've made out with a girl who is 5'10", and I've been with a couple girls who are slightly taller than I am. I've also gotten the "you're a really nice guy but..." line a few times so I'm not some sort of pickup/dating superhero or anything. (2) The second thing to realize is that going to the gym definitely helps. Some people say that it doesn't and there are guys who are 5'6" with a slender or even out-of-shape build with the ladies (Somedude, google Josh Pellicier) and I can't disagree with those guys, but I still think that gaining 10 pounds of muscle helps. Get in the gym and do some heavy squats and deadlifts! Stay away from too much cardio though. (3) Excellence is a turn-on. This is one of the reasons why I do CrossFit. Who cares how tall you are if you really know how to use your body? This is why some guys take dancing lessons. Or learn to surf. Or take on a martial art... Or master the guitar. Some of you guys would be so much better if you focused the energy you spend coming on here and whining, on mastering a hobby. Nevermind trying to meet women--although I think you'd be much better off putting yourself out there too--but if you spent your days learning to play the guitar so you can play bitter emo songs (instead of just writing bitter emo posts) you'd be that much better off. Some women like emo dudes as long as they can play an instrument. Edited February 18, 2012 by Imajerk17
AD1980 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Im not a fan of these condescending "tip" articles as if short men are inferior and have to overcompensate Im not jumping over hoops to prove myself just because women are obsessed with height 3
PlumPrincess Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Also, if a man lies about his height it's really possible to tell by looking at pictures. Though if a woman lies about her weight, one can usually tell that something is wrong, if the pictures are recent enough. Still believing that they are 4 inches taller than they really are is just goofy. But the easiest lie to tell is one that you believe in. She just said that because in the picture she's seen, I have a bit of a stomach. And she's using that assumption to believe that I don't work out. As if everybody in the gym has a flat stomach and looks ripped. If you work out, but don't look like you work out, then it's useless. The short guy I had this online flirt, he was 5'6" and he looked like he worked out, not ripped, but the chest muscles were defined and he had strong leg and arm muscles. It would have been good enough for me, but I have never been very much into the sixpack look anyway.
somedude81 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 Exactly my point, as always. But, of course, it's "delusional" wooooooo.... Short men get laid all the time. I know so much short dudes, they get laid more than a lot of tall dudes I know How does you knowing short guys who get laid help me in any way? But it's not just that, it's the fact that he's confident, he teases, he makes jokes, he always smiles, he isn't super serious all the time. Girls like that. Has he always been like that? Do you ever remember him struggling? lol The trick is to find something about yourself that you do like or something that your good at and focus on those things. Think to yourself. "Hey I'm pretty good at that and not everybody is, that's pretty cool." There is nothing wrong with you man. Your not ugly. Your not stupid. Think about that. There are a lot of dumb guys out there. Your not one of them. That makes you more awesome than them. Also, if you can ever start facing your fears and beating them, that will give you another reason to think your awesome. Why? Because some people never do and you did. I can see what your getting at. You want me to find something I'm good at and base my confidence on that. Though my problem with that is I've put how I deal with women/my success as the base of my confidence, simply because it's what I want the most. Getting rejected has no effect on your confidence. Taking it to heart does. You hurt yourself when you agree with what you think the reason for the rejection is. Your problem is that you reject yourself. But you want people to think women are the source of your problem. That sounds like a whole lot of psychological nonsense. When a woman rejects me, she is rejecting me, she's saying that I'm not good enough for her. It has nothing to do with whether I reject myself or not when the girl does! Having confidence doesn't mean never getting rejected again. It just means you bounce back from it quickly and are ready for the next round. And then not only do your chances go up because you're trying more, but people pick up on your resilience and find that attractive as well. I agree with you. But actually getting the confidence is the hard part. It's much easier to keep trying something over and over when you've done it before and know you can do it again. Though if all you've done is fail, it's really hard to expect something different. No woman ever hurt you by turning you down. I'd love some of what you're smoking. If you work out, but don't look like you work out, then it's useless. The short guy I had this online flirt, he was 5'6" and he looked like he worked out, not ripped, but the chest muscles were defined and he had strong leg and arm muscles. It would have been good enough for me, but I have never been very much into the sixpack look anyway. I'm so sorry my muscles are not defined enough for you. Shall I send you some nudes once I get fitter?
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