I really don't want virgin women

February 19, 2012

^psssh who wants only other skills? I want her to have vagina skills =P

Definitely not. In a relationship, I want everything included and it would be a deal-breaker if the woman turns out to be clueless in that area or is a starfish. Sex is an important aspect too and if I'm going to wait till she's ready, I would feel left out. We wouldn't be on the same page.

February 19, 2012

Every virgin or inexperienced woman I have touched has turned sex into some sort of emotional connection between the two of us, and this is not what I intend t do.

That is true also. You don't know if she loves you and enjoys your company or has gotten very emotionally attached. Some of them may confused love for attachment. Unlike an experienced woman, you can both enjoy sex and intimacy without too much drama.

True I might have miss out on what could have been a good relationship but I'm unwilling to take that risk.

February 19, 2012

There's a reason why in Islam it is seen as the ULTIMATE thing for a man to receive 72 virgins in heaven after death.

Many, if not most men, like virgins. (or at least the idea of it)

Some very sexually experienced men however, do not, because they want to have super-sex. And virgins don't know how to have super-sex yet.

February 20, 2012

Not bad but I don't have patience anymore with the ''wait for x amount of time and take it slow''.

And you think only virgins do that? I don't know why you're under the impression that experienced women have no standards and are willing to rush into sex with just anyone. Just because she's not a virgin doesn't mean she's a whore.

In a relationship, I want everything included

Well. Aren't you demanding and high-maintenance. You're probably bad in bed yourself, so how do you feel entitled to a woman with master bedroom skills?

February 20, 2012

Well, it is hard to believe that one would reach your age (at 25) for men or women that one is still a virgin. However, as we do not truly know what does or doesn't go on behind closed doors, it is feasible. Should you encounter someone like this, if it is your preferance not to be with a virgin, you should not be with them out of pity or something.

If the person in question is a woman, that may be more socially acceptable than if one is a man and a virgin at said age. I dated someone seriously who was 28 at the time, had 2 serious girlfriends before me (that I know of). The first one he was with for 5 years, living together for 2 of them, were engaged to be married AND he was a virgin when I met him. How is that possible? He said he was never comfortable enough to do the deed, despite the fact that they were living in the same house and sleeping in the same bed. Did I believe that? Not quite, being that he told a super lie to me and others later on and was caught red handed in it. (But that's another story.) But, it turned out to be true. What do I think of this? Not sure. But, the bottom line is if you are/were not comfortable with a woman who has no experience, then that's what will make you happy.

February 20, 2012

There's a reason why in Islam it is seen as the ULTIMATE thing for a man to receive 72 virgins in heaven after death.

Many, if not most men, like virgins. (or at least the idea of it)

Some very sexually experienced men however, do not, because they want to have super-sex. And virgins don't know how to have super-sex yet.

Um, how do you know most guys like virgins?

Im not a player, but I prefer a girl to have had some sexual experience before me.

Islam has nothing to do with what most men want in the world. And I tell you this as a former Muslim. Religion in general holds purity to a high light.

However its not like Western society is super religious. So yeah, your post fails. Im sorry. =P

And you think only virgins do that? I don't know why you're under the impression that experienced women have no standards and are willing to rush into sex with just anyone. Just because she's not a virgin doesn't mean she's a whore.

Speaking from experience, virgins will make you wait quite a bit for sex.

Not saying there a no non-virgins who do this, but its much easier to find a non-virgin who will have sex within a month then a virgin who will.

Well. Aren't you demanding and high-maintenance. You're probably bad in bed yourself, so how do you feel entitled to a woman with master bedroom skills?

Is it necessary to attack his bedroom skills though?

Is it that off the wall for a guy to believe that a non virgin would be better in bed than a virgin?

I can tell you from experience with a few that virgins generally take a lot more patience with and tend to lack the skills of a more experience girl. Makes sense though, seeing as experience generally makes someone better than someone else at most things.

Let the guy have his preference. Why do people get so bent out of shape when virgin man or woman threads pop up. Just let them find someone whos ok with it instead of chastising those who arent.

February 20, 2012

If a girl told me that she was a virgin, I would be turned off right away. I prefer a woman who is sexually assertive and experienced. Having sex with someone who is like a dead fish in bed isn't my cup of tea. I won't deny that tons of men are into that kind of stuff though.

February 20, 2012

*shrugs* Many men DO prefer virgins. And many men don't. You're in the latter category. No problem. Honestly, if you live in a Western city, I'm pretty certain that most women in your age range aren't virgins anyway.

If you think that non-virgins won't get 'emotionally attached' though, you and your gf are both going to be in for unpleasant surprises.

February 20, 2012

Not all virgins are like that. In fact, most of them aren't. Most people aren't like that, virgin or not. You happened to date a girl who was very jealous and possessive, but it's not because she was a virgin. That's just her personality. She'll probably be like that for the rest of her life. Think about it: Everyone starts out as a virgin, but most people don't act like jealous stalkers before they lose their virginity. Virgin is NOT a personality trait.

Also, you assume that virgins have no sexual experience. That's not necessarily true. Maybe they've never engaged in vaginal intercourse, but that doesn't mean they haven't done other stuff. In fact, most virgins have had a lot of practice with the other physical stuff because they've been in relationships that didn't include sex, so they had plenty of opportunity to hone their other skills.

You can date or not date whoever you want, I just think you're jumping to a lot of false assumptions about virgins.

Yup, this too. There is probably a higher proportion of virgins who have sexual hangups than non-virgins, I'll give him that. But for the most part, they're so loosely correlated that choosing one or the other won't necessarily guarantee you anything.

If a guy doesn't wish to be with me because believes me to be incompetent in the bedroom solely because I have not had vaginal-penile intercourse, all I can say is, his loss and my gain. I generally prefer men who do not place so much emphasis on vaginal-penile intercourse as the main focus of sex, so we'd definitely not be compatible.

February 20, 2012

I was posting because at some point I was thinking maybe I was a bit of a jerk. I was thinking it over and decided to share this. It just that this really caught me by surprise. It wasn't something that's typically expected from a 28 year-old woman.

I hear ya. I was gutted when I dated my last ex and found out how little experience he had in bed. He was 27 but I had much better sex with 21 year-olds. Gave it a go twice more but he just didn't have the skills nor the understanding of how to create true intimacy in bed. I like a sexually assertive man, not one that asks for my permission for intercourse only for it to be over in 30 seconds

February 20, 2012

What's the main argument for this "I don't want to be the teacher".. Is there really all that much to it? Sounds like an exaggeration. Sex would only get better with someone the longer you're with them anyway, not every way works for every person, and not every person requires the same level of intimacy and familiarity..

For a male, you're essentially sticking your wingwang in her diddlywink. Rinse and repeat. Is that so difficult? Does it have to come with an instruction manual? Of course you have to be sensitive to how they're reacting, but other than that, what else needs to be "taught"?

Nobody's a mind reader, they're not going to know automatically what works for YOU. They could've been with partners who liked to be donkey punched and screamed at from behind as their lover pulls their hair and screams "WHAT'S YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION SUGAR TITS!?!?" - An exaggeration, but, my point has been made.

If I'm a virgin and I let her know right before we do it, is she really going to get dressed again, take me to some classroom and lecture me for 6 hours and have me practice shooting my load on targets, putting condoms on bananas and jumping over tires full of DNA testing kits, pregnancy tests and child support documentation before we actually DO it?

Or is she going to just grab my junk and guide it in right before I ravage her? (If I even need help doing that.. I'll find a hole.. LOL)

I totally agree and find this obsession with virginity stupid. Either you have a talent for sex or you haven't. My first time was very good, just like most of the other times I had sex. I wanted to have sex with the guy and I had been masturbating enough to know what felt OK and what did not. And I had no complexes about my body either.

This bleeding thing is also totally exaggerated in my opinion. It's never gonna be a liter of blood for god's sake. Never noticed bleeding that first time, that hymen was long gone because of tampons and masturbation. Sorry for those with sensitive ears who can't stand that a spade is called a spade.

I find guys who make a deal about virginity a bit sick. I was the first for a boyfriend of mine, and when I once met him after 20 years, that was still on his mind. But then, he was always kind of weird about sex which is one of the reasons I broke up with him.

Nothing guarantees you that you will have better sex with a non-virgin than with a virgin. If you like a girl and she likes you, why make an issue of this virginity? There will be non-virgins who will be lousy in bed and virgins who will give you great sex.

The thing is: just because a penis went into that vagina for the first time, will not totally change the personality and the sensuality of a person...

February 20, 2012

^You hone talents through experience.

February 20, 2012

Your sexuality changes throughout your life just as your personality does. Mine is very different now in my 30s than it was when I was 19 or even 25. Partly experience partly natural development of confidence

February 20, 2012

^I wish my mid 20s self could go back in time and coach my virgin self, late teens self,and early 20s self.

I didnt really find myself sexually till 22/23. Experience and confidence like you said.

February 20, 2012

Many men "prefer" virgins? Uh... men of what age?! I don't know any men who prefer virgins, I'm late 20s. The guys I know want a gal who can a) keep up and b) knows what she wants and c) can do them well!

When I was like...23 I knew guys who wanted virgins and saw it as a conquest to deflower them......their motives were hardly PURE, so to blast the OP for not wanting a virgin seems odd to me.

February 20, 2012

For some reason, in the past two years I've met a number of girls who were still virgins between ages 23 and 25. That's late to me. I consider 13-16 too early, 17 to 21 kind of "just right," 22 to 23 late bloomer but still okay, 24+ just weird. (I know that's mean, but I'm kind of mean, so...)

One of my good friends was 24 and a virgin (she lost it at 25). I was really close with her that year (2010/2011) when she kept going out with different guys and fooling around heavily with them but still not having sex. There were at least two (one was 22, the other was 28) that she told me about that were freaked out by her being a virgin and who downright refused to have sex with her because of it. I was surprised because I would think guys would feel "honored" to be a girl's first. (When I lost my virginity, the guy had that "honored" stance). But then again, I lost my virginity to a guy who was 19. I guess older and/or more experienced guys are more wary of attachment and over-emotion, etc. (She herself was wishy washy about it; she kinda wanted to have sex with them and she kinda didn't).

My friend really was over-emotional about things. Even without having sex with this one particular guy, she kept following him around even after they decided not to see each other. She did the same with the other guy. He broke it off with her (with no sex ever having taken place), but she clung to him for weeks afterward. This may go to show that either 1) being clingy or over-emotional has nothing to do with having sex for the first time with a guy; it's just some people's personality to be that way, or 2) just doing sexual/romantic things with a person (like fondling, dry-humping, cuddling, oral sex, hand-holding, caressing, rubbing, french-kissing, spooning, and all the rest of it) is enough of an attachment-causer just like sex itself. She did all those things with the guys and was attached to them.

I think it was her personality, though. She was what I call an "emotional slob." I was attached to the guy I lost my virginity to, also, but I toughed it out and detached without groveling for his love and attention. I'm an emotional slob, too, really, but I do it in private.

Edited February 20, 2012 by Jane2011

February 20, 2012

I kind of agree with the OP here. I mean I think I'd prefer to be with a non-virgin too. Two clueless people in bed is probably not very good. It would probably be best to be with someone who knew what they were doing.

February 20, 2012

For some reason, in the past two years I've met a number of girls who were still virgins between ages 23 and 25. That's late to me. I consider 13-16 too early, 17 to 21 kind of "just right," 22 to 23 late bloomer but still okay, 24+ just weird. (I know that's mean, but I'm kind of mean, so...)

It's not mean. I actually agree with you.

February 20, 2012

In response to Jane2011's last post:

For younger guys (22 and under) taking a girls virginity can be an honor. It was with my ex, but I was super in love with her. She was almost 20 at the time. I was 22.

However past a certain age, some guys are a bit standoffish about virgins because theres a good deal of pressure. First we have to take things super slow, always be very reassuring in bed, and do a lot of hand holding and walking a girl through the act. Next, guys get afraid that the girls will cling in really deep after they have sex. It doesnt mean the guys trying to use her, but for many folks, sex doesnt necessarily make things super serious from that point on. Guys want to be able to take things and a moderate pace.

I was fine with all of this in the past, but Ive done all of this with 2 girls in the past and Id prefer not to have to go through all that again. My sex life was rather frustrating with my ex because of how much more serious she made sex out to be. I agree sex is very important to a relationship, but for her it was very much more so.

Its just easier with someone whos on my experience level.

Edited February 20, 2012 by kaylan

February 20, 2012

Let the guy have his preference. Why do people get so bent out of shape when virgin man or woman threads pop up. Just let them find someone whos ok with it instead of chastising those who arent.

Of course he can have his preference, I just think his preference is based on assumptions that are incorrect.

1) He assumes that non-virgins won't become emotionally attached after sex.

2) He assumes that non-virgins will jump into bed with him right away.

3) He assumes that non-virgins have porn-star bedroom skills.

4) He assumes that non-virgins are not looking for an emotional connection with their sexual partner.

None of those things are true. Really, his preference is not about virgin vs. non-virgin. His preference is about relationship sex vs. casual sex. Sounds like he just prefers women who are into one-night stands and don't expect sex to lead to anything. Being a virgin has nothing to do with it.

February 20, 2012

^ We get what you are saying, however its FAR more likely for those things to occur though with a non-virgin than a virgin.

I speak not from only my experience, but from the experience of a few guys I know. Its not like this is happening in a vacuum. Girls who are older virgins tend to have a certain personality type and view about sex. Read my previous post. All the guys I know whove dealt with virgins in their post high school life will tell you thats how things went down with the girl(s) they were with.

Simple.

Sure it wont apply to every single person. But in a lot of cases it will. Like I said, older virgins tend to have a certain personality type and view of sex. Why else would they be virgins past a certain age?

Edited February 20, 2012 by kaylan

February 20, 2012

Girls who are older virgins tend to have a certain personality type and view about sex.

This

Nothing worst than a conservative woman you can't even be open about sex. I can't imagine how our conversation would have turned out.

The time frame I can wait at the most for a woman (assuming she's experienced already) to put out is 2-3 months and that would be if I know she wants me but is taking things slowly, that is if she isn't playing games either. However, after all the ''getting to know you'' stage and still nothing but either making-out or halfway intimacy I'm out.

That one virgin I referred to on my previous post made me wait about 8 months.

February 20, 2012

For younger guys (22 and under) taking a girls virginity can be an honor. It was with my ex, but I was super in love with her. She was almost 20 at the time. I was 22.

I agree there is always a time for everything.

17-21 year-old virgin girls is great for men within that same age range, ohhh the wonderful youthful years:D

22-25 year-old virgin women, ummm well maybe she is having a hard time finding the right man but still ok I guess though not too great. The stage of discomfort starts.

26+ year-old virgin women, now I'm wondering what happened, not that ok anymore.

Edited February 20, 2012 by TimmyTuckerR

February 20, 2012

I agree there is always a time for everything.

17-21 year-old virgin girls is great for men within that same age range, ohhh the wonderful youthful years:D

22-25 year-old virgin women, ummm well maybe she is having a hard time finding the right man but still ok I guess though not too great. The stage of discomfort starts.

26+ year-old virgin women, now I'm wondering what happened, not that ok anymore.

OMG, I feel the same way about virgin men. The last guy I dated was a virgin and I tried to make it work but there's just something not there enough.

February 20, 2012

Why does it honestly matter if someone's in their mid twenties and still a virgin? It doesn't mean that they're insane. Maybe they just aren't the sort of person to be physically intimate with any ******* on the street. If I was a girl, I'd rather masturbate than have some greasy douchebag make some calculated, insincere moves on me just to force his chode in my meat flaps for two seconds.

This isn't the stone age, and no one has to be forced to do anything, male or female. People have different perspectives, and just because society has conditioned people to feel that it's more socially acceptable to just stick your stuff in anything that walks, doesn't mean everyone feels that way.

Some people ARE content with compartmentalizing sexual intercourse with pissing or ****ting or scratching their back.. Just a physical itch that needs scratching, and it doesn't matter how it's done.

Great. That's fine, but why harp on an individual who scratches that itch by themselves because they don't want to risk catching something from someone whom they really don't know and is likely seeing other people at the same time? Some people choose to make something greater out of it. It's all in the mind, but does that make it less real? Perception is reality.

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