Woggle Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 As long as she doesn't watch that Real Housewives crap and she doesn't listen to Nickelback. Everything else is okay.
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) All the anti porn thoughts by men and women in this thread is basically the cause of insecurity which is kinda disappointing. For the females that said there are only ugly men in porn so thats why men aren't threatened by it are hilariously way off and obviously haven't watched that much porn. There are just as many average looking girls in porn as there are guys. Do you know how much porn there is on the internet?! 1. First, I'm not even anti-porn. (Only opposing it when it comes to degrading porn). 2. What kind of porn are you watching? It sure must not be the same one. Yes, there are average women in porn, sure. But are they as many as ugly men? Not by a million. What saves them most of the time is the toned body (and perhaps penis length LOL). Unless men's expectations have gone so high lately due to porn overload and they now see pretty and hot women as average. Please watch some gay video (well... if you dare) to see the difference in male appearance. Most of the men look like a 20 year old Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise. No. Even better actually. Edited February 11, 2012 by silvermercy
xxoo Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I wouldn't even think twice about it. No matter the kind of stuff she likes. It would go like this: "Hey, you know I regularly watch some of that scat midget porn." "Oh, okay." End. As long as she doesn't watch that Real Housewives crap and she doesn't listen to Nickelback. Everything else is okay. Jersey Shore ok? Hey Kiss, you've inspired me to ask H if he wants to watch some "movies" tonight. It's been a while. Sending you his thanks in advance!
Woggle Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Jersey Shore ok? Hey Kiss, you've inspired me to ask H if he wants to watch some "movies" tonight. It's been a while. Sending you his thanks in advance! Jersey Shore is not ok either but luckily she shares my distaste for how bad it makes our town look. Ke$ha is not okay either.
Badsingularity Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I would not care. The dudes in there could be taller than me, have six packs (i don't), have bigger tools and be incredibly handsome and I would not care. As long as she was happy and I was satisfied I would not care.
Mme. Chaucer Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I watch The Stupid Housewives … my husband is embarrassed for me. He just shakes his head.
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I would not care. The dudes in there could be taller than me, have six packs (i don't), have bigger tools and be incredibly handsome and I would not care. As long as she was happy and I was satisfied I would not care. But that's the thing many women here -and elsewhere- have doubts about: That IN REALITY you would care, especially if this started happening with an increased frequency. In other words, men are now safe in the knowledge their women wouldn't do that and, thus, of course they would state they wouldn't mind it. Almost sounds like a bluff. So maybe the equivalent would be: "how would men feel if most women started regularly reading magazines or watching videos and TV shows about richer men, what they offer, how many properties they own, what cars they drive and how more awesome, desirable and elegant they seemed in general than average poorer men?" A woman's fantasy and a man's worst nightmare. No? LOL
ditzchic Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 So maybe the equivalent would be: "how would men feel if most women started regularly reading magazines or watching videos and TV shows about richer men, what they offer, how many properties they own, what cars they drive and how more awesome, desirable and elegant they seemed in general than average poorer men?" A woman's fantasy and a man's worst nightmare. No? LOL But we do see that in movies and on TV all the time. They are called RomComs. Those guys are all hot, great kissers, well dressed, successful, romantic and have the perfect thing to say at the perfect time. They are a lot of women's "dream men". I've never had a guy intimidated by me watching one...
xxoo Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 But that's the thing many women here -and elsewhere- have doubts about: That IN REALITY you would care, especially if this started happening with an increased frequency. In other words, men are now safe in the knowledge their women wouldn't do that and, thus, of course they would state they wouldn't mind it. Almost sounds like a bluff. I've called the bluff. My guy feels the same as Badsingularity. As long as he's satisfied, and I'm happy, it's ALL good.
Dust Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Women are like children. If nudity or something to graphic comes on the tv/movie I'm watching with a girl I'll cover her eyes until viewing appropriate. They certainly should not be watching porn it will warp their little minds.
Woggle Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 But we do see that in movies and on TV all the time. They are called RomComs. Those guys are all hot, great kissers, well dressed, successful, romantic and have the perfect thing to say at the perfect time. They are a lot of women's "dream men". I've never had a guy intimidated by me watching one... Exactly. Guys make fun of the Twilight movies because they are so stupid. I know women that feel the same way as the guys do. We make fun of Justin Bieber because he doesn't have one drop of musical talent.
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Ok, then. I admit there is no REAL equivalent to porn right now. No romcoms or rich men's magazines would ever rich porn's heights when it comes to male habits. In other words, consequences and men's real feelings would only be truly measurable if most women REALLY started watching porn just like men do and with the same frequency (including degrading stuff, too). Until then, I take all statements about "oh... I wouldn't mind if she watched" or "as long as she is happy" with a huge grain of salt. Why? Simply because the exact reverse hasn't happened yet.
ThaWholigan Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I honestly do not care about the **** that girls are into, I used to sell bootleg porn to/watch with a female friend occasionally, I'm not bothered at all by this. Girls will always be into something that makes insecure guys jealous, I believe twilight was mentioned, or true blood. All that stuff. I'd probably watch porn with my (future) girl too lol. Straight though, cannot watch gay porn. Lesbian porn has never been my thing either, it's boring.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Imageiko All the anti porn thoughts by men and women in this thread is basically the cause of insecurity which is kinda disappointing. The amount of times I hear people use the "insecurity" card to ignore the complexity of the entire issue is disappointing to me. Simply, I am tired of living in a culture where men can't seem to live or breath without porn today. For the females that said there are only ugly men in porn so thats why men aren't threatened by it are hilariously way off and obviously haven't watched that much porn. There are just as many average looking girls in porn as there are guys. Do you know how much porn there is on the internet?! Nothing wrong with either side watching a little porn as a supplement. If you'd rather watch porn then be with your partner or your watching more porn than spending time with your partner then you definitely have a problem. Stereotypically, the women in porn are quite attractive. There is a standard ideal of "porn star" that most of us are going to formulate a picture in our head of a young, busty, perfect body woman. There are more average women in porn, but there are also over the top depictions of beautiful women that to unmatched by anything you would find in a guy in porn. How many men do you think are getting plastic surgery to achieve a certain look compared to how many women are getting plastic surgery to achieve a certain llok. Despite the fact that there can be average looking women in porn, porn still largely caters to men and their desires with very little thought about what women need in their own unique womanly ways. For this reason, it makes it much easier for men to not feel "threatened" by it then women. Porn is made for men in most cases. Porn creates a world where all the men perform without fail. Where all the women LOVE everything that is being done to her even if what is being done to her isn't that great. Where the women are, majority speaking, young and pretty with over idolized bodies. I spent some time looking at porn when I first started trying to understand why men seemed to like something that was so fake to what sexuality should be. I saw way more movies of fat, old balding guys banging young hot women then the reverse. Ron Jeremy is a very popular porn star, is he not? Where is his female equal if porn is equal oppurtunity in each gender's looks?
Negative Nancy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Ok, then. I admit there is no REAL equivalent to porn right now. No romcoms or rich men's magazines would ever rich porn's heights when it comes to male habits. In other words, consequences and men's real feelings would only be truly measurable if most women REALLY started watching porn just like men do and with the same frequency (including degrading stuff, too). Until then, I take all statements about "oh... I wouldn't mind if she watched" or "as long as she is happy" with a huge grain of salt. Why? Simply because the exact reverse hasn't happened yet. The only real equivalent I can think of right now is what is described so accurately on here as "retroactive jealousy": you see tons of men on here get insecure about their girlfriend's sexual past and obsessing over how many partners she had and with whom she's done what. So both genders get upset essentially about the same thing: women don't like seeing their men getting aroused by tons of other naked women and wanting to bang them - and men don't like picturing their women with tons of men either. What it boils down to is, both genders don't want to share their partner or imagine him being f'ed by many partners in the past (women) or him picturing and fantasizing about banging the porn stars (men). 1
LexiB Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 As a female who watches a lot of porn I have to say three are TONS of good looking guys in porn and I mean TONS. I watch porn kind of a lot to be honest; almost every day actually. I don't find it excessive because it doesn't get in the way of what I need to do and doesn't interrupt with my life. It's just my favorite way to de-stress. Rocco Siffredi was very handsome when he was younger (he is not so hot anymore) but if you watch his older movies; the man is a stallion with model looks (face and body). I read that he actually used to be a male model before porn and he is one of the most prolific porn actors of our time. He is one of my favorites in terms of his movies and looks. I also think Ramon Nomar is one of the BEST looking guys in porn right now; the man looks like a male model and a Spanish soap opera star. Another guy who I think is super hot is Manuel Ferrara; he is French and also does a lot of rougher videos with some slapping, always lots of anal but he does it very passionately and intensely like Rocco does. James Deen is also hot; he does a lot of the videos for Kink where he is rough with the girls and slaps them around and dominates them but that type of porn totally turns me on. I also used to think Nacho Vidal was kind of hot too. The porn vids I like to watch are more on the rough and wilder side; group, gangbang, lots of anal, I also like watching bondage and bdsm like the Kink stuff such as Public Disgrace, Hogtied and Bound Gangbangs. The kind of porn that I like the most is the kind that DisenchantedlyYours would find "degrading" towards women; the ones where women are called names and dominated/humiliated, sometimes even spit on and used by many, many guys and strangers. I find that type of sex the most of a turn on and I consider myself fairly emotionally healthy (was never sexually or physically abused when younger). I just like rough sex. I don't like porn that is geared towards women or anything soft and romantic; that is just not my style. I watch porn for the sex but ALSO for the guys most of the time. I will watch specific porn cause I like the guys. Kink has lots of good looking guys in their productions. Some guys I will watch for their looks and others for how "nasty" they are in bed and their skills. I also watch gay porn too (lots of hot guys in there) and sometimes weird things like shemales just out of curiosity. Once I watched a porn with a shemale doing a woman and I thought that was hot too. I would never do that myself; it was just interesting. None of the guys I've been with have ever had an issue with it. We've always watched porn together because it intensifies the sex and makes it more exciting. This 100%. And Manuel Ferrara...omg. Dude has the BEST scenes...
HeavenOrHell Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 I think he thinks it's quite sexy that I sometimes watch stuff, he does too, I kind of got interested in it through him, we're long distance, but I only watch real couple type stuff, or stuff made for women, and not your average blonde bimbo type c*ap, although at first he (jokingly) said 'oh you won't be needing me now then'. We've watched stuff together too.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 jstarz The porn vids I like to watch are more on the rough and wilder side; group, gangbang, lots of anal, I also like watching bondage and bdsm like the Kink stuff such as Public Disgrace, Hogtied and Bound Gangbangs. The kind of porn that I like the most is the kind that DisenchantedlyYours would find "degrading" towards women; the ones where women are called names and dominated/humiliated, sometimes even spit on and used by many, many guys and strangers. I find that type of sex the most of a turn on and I consider myself fairly emotionally healthy (was never sexually or physically abused when younger). I just like rough sex. I don't like porn that is geared towards women or anything soft and romantic; that is just not my style. There is actually porn out there called "public disgrace" and "hogtied". You got to admit, there is a gigantic amount of space between porn called "public disgrace" and "soft, romantic sex". You would be correct. I do think those things are infinitely degrading toward women. Although I never denied that there are not women that don't enjoy porn or even degrading porn. I suspect this pool of women is growing also with the advent of the internet. Men and women are both capable of buying into what the porn industry sells us about sexuality. And I do think the porn industry is a combination of human sexuality and corporation selling ideals to viewers about what sexuality should be. Although, when you get into extremes, I do think there are pyschological reasons why people have attraction to those extremes to begin with. There doesn't have to be a history of abuse for that to be true. That doesn't mean I think you are not an intelligent capable person. But when it comes to fetishes, there is a reason people are attracted to them. Jstarz, how old are you? And when did you first see porn? Do you look at porn everyday and sleep with your boyfriend often as well? How many times a week to you have actual sex, not masturbation? And do you picture yourself as the woman in the movie being degraded?
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 As a female who watches a lot of porn I have to say three are TONS of good looking guys in porn and I mean TONS. I watch porn kind of a lot to be honest; almost every day actually. I don't find it excessive because it doesn't get in the way of what I need to do and doesn't interrupt with my life. It's just my favorite way to de-stress. Rocco Siffredi was very handsome when he was younger (he is not so hot anymore) but if you watch his older movies; the man is a stallion with model looks (face and body). I read that he actually used to be a male model before porn and he is one of the most prolific porn actors of our time. He is one of my favorites in terms of his movies and looks. I also think Ramon Nomar is one of the BEST looking guys in porn right now; the man looks like a male model and a Spanish soap opera star. Another guy who I think is super hot is Manuel Ferrara; he is French and also does a lot of rougher videos with some slapping, always lots of anal but he does it very passionately and intensely like Rocco does. James Deen is also hot; he does a lot of the videos for Kink where he is rough with the girls and slaps them around and dominates them but that type of porn totally turns me on. I also used to think Nacho Vidal was kind of hot too. The porn vids I like to watch are more on the rough and wilder side; group, gangbang, lots of anal, I also like watching bondage and bdsm like the Kink stuff such as Public Disgrace, Hogtied and Bound Gangbangs. The kind of porn that I like the most is the kind that DisenchantedlyYours would find "degrading" towards women; the ones where women are called names and dominated/humiliated, sometimes even spit on and used by many, many guys and strangers. I find that type of sex the most of a turn on and I consider myself fairly emotionally healthy (was never sexually or physically abused when younger). I just like rough sex. I don't like porn that is geared towards women or anything soft and romantic; that is just not my style. I watch porn for the sex but ALSO for the guys most of the time. I will watch specific porn cause I like the guys. Kink has lots of good looking guys in their productions. Some guys I will watch for their looks and others for how "nasty" they are in bed and their skills. I also watch gay porn too (lots of hot guys in there) and sometimes weird things like shemales just out of curiosity. Once I watched a porn with a shemale doing a woman and I thought that was hot too. I would never do that myself; it was just interesting. None of the guys I've been with have ever had an issue with it. We've always watched porn together because it intensifies the sex and makes it more exciting. I was curious about your post mentioning there are TONS of good looking men in hetero porn and at first I thought it was because watching porn more frequently might statistically help someone find more good looking men. So I did a google search for the male pornstars you mentioned and my immediate response upon seeing their photos was "yikes". I'm totally serious about that!! I was expecting them to be much younger and with universally good looks like Ian Somerhalder or Jared Leto, Chris Pine, Jensen Ackles, Jared Padalecki, Kellan Lutz even David Beckham... Apart from their hot bodies, facially I wouldn't bear looking at them in porn.
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 Jared leto? ew. Kellan Lutz does nothing for me. We have different taste. Rocco was good looking when he was younger. I googled Padalecki; this guy is not my taste. Does not look hot to me. Iam Somerhalder looks hot. Guys that I think are hot are Taylor Lautner and Zac Effron a few years ago. Antonio Sabato Jr was also hot back in the 90's. Brad Pitt was also hot in that greek movie and back when he was younger (he's old now). Some of the porn guys aged but look better in their older movies. lulz? what? Different tastes indeed! Well, I only mentioned them because they are considered the most eligible men in the universe (that is, liked by most women universally, if you take into account the obsessions of the online female world). In other words these female preferences would also extend into porn as well (and wouldn't be confined in celebrity world only). Zac Effron, yes. Taylor and Sabbato... Hmm... so and so... (I don't like the type). Even though I'm no fan of Robert Pattinson I can see the appeal to the female fans more there... Anyway, I think the majority of women would want to see the facial type of the men I mentioned (and teen girls that of Justin Bieber. LOOOOL ). In other words, if porn took example from celebrity world (what females truly like in that realm), then more women might get into porn.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 jstarz I know there is porn out there called Public Disgrace and Hogtied, these are the ones I watch and am referring to, duh! Otherwise why would I mention them by name? I wasn't contesting that those sites aren't real Jstarz. I don't feel the need to answer all your questions since this is not a therapy session and my porn habits are not really your concern other than what I have mentioned. Well, I wasn't asking you because I wanted it to be a therapy session. I was simply curious. I don't think my questions where that invasive. But if you don't want to answer them, then you don't want to answer them. *shrug*. I will say that if you decided to answer them, that I will not comment on your answers. What I find the most annoying is that in the other porn thread you act like you are speaking for ALL women, like you are the protector of all of us. I don't agree with anything you say and you definitely not speak for me. However, you always talk in generalities as if ALL women feel threatened by porn or as if we ALL are bothered by significant others who watch porn. We aren't. I think it's just you and maybe a few others but it's not the majority of women and you don't speak for all women even though you act like you do. I do speak in generalities. I would never be able to address the topic if I didn't. I however never said my thoughts applied to "all" women. I infact have said that women do infact watch porn. But I have to ask, why is okay for you to say what the "majority" of women are like but it's not okay for me to? I also don't fee the need to "control" myself or curb my thoughts because you feel it is healthy to do so. I like being hedonistic and giving into my impulses; I am not into this puritanical mindset of "fantasizing in moderation" and don't expect anyone else to either. I happen to like excess. I can watch whatever I feel like and enjoy whatever I like even though you may not find it "sexually healthy"; I really could care less.
silvermercy Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) No, the guys you mentioned are NOT considered the most eligible in the universe except for Taylor Lautner and Bieber. The most desired man in the world right now is Taylor Lautner imho, much better looking than Pattinson. Well... Ok, we must be living in a different universe. Bieber yes (but not my type obviously), Taylor... eeeww... Sorry. Popular, but not as popular as Pattinson. lol I have seen MANY Megan Fox lookalikes in porn (blondes and brunettes). And their bodies are as toned as Victoria's Secret models. Just what are you talking about? I'd be curious to see the porn you are watching. Also, men have to "try" harder when it comes to facial features. They can almost never be equivalents to women in terms of beauty. That's why you see a brother and a sister (same age), and the female is usually more beautiful and with more pleasant features than the brother. That's the general rule even with whole nations. I'm not the one who's just saying that. I'm from Greece for example. And the women are gorgeous. The men, however, look like the Hunchbacks of Notre-Dame. lol Angelina Jolie's brother for example, you wouldn't even think he has a sister like Angelina Jolie. He looks totally plain. Edited February 11, 2012 by silvermercy
Disenchantedly Yours Posted February 11, 2012 Posted February 11, 2012 jstarz Why do you ask these questions to the WOMEN who watch porn but not to the males in your other thread where you've been posting for the last two weeks? I don't recall you interrogating the guys about how old they are and if they picture themselves having sex with the women in the movies? Are you multiple "women"? Aren't you just one woman? I asked you specifically these questions. They do not appear to be particulary offensive questions. I was just curious about them since you where so open about your other activities. I am also not sure why I would have to ask everyone the same questions to not be considered whatever it is you are insinuating I am just because I didn't ask a man his age but I asked yours. Fact is that what I think in my mind and what everyone else thinks when they watch porn is not any of your business. Absoluetely, but you were being very open about certain things you do think about. So I asked you a few questions in response. Not particularly offensive questions either. The only person you need to concern with is your man or boyfriend; go torture him about what he's thinking and watching (poor guy). I thought that our thoughts were our individual business lol. As for the rest of us, we can watch and fantasize about whatever we want as much as we want. I think you are irritated because you expect women to be on your side and support you and to also feel offended at the notion of porn and guys watching it but I hate to tell you that it doesn't bother me or many other women. I think it's you and some other women but I don't think you are the majority. I am acutually not irritated at all in this thread. I was in other threads where conversations got heated. I simply asked you a few questions. You clearly don't have to answer them. You seem irritated more then I am. Again, you were irritated that you thought I was speaking for "all" or "most" women. Yet above, you engage in the same thing. You speak for what you think applies for the majority of women. I am not sure why it's okay for you to do it but when I spean in generalities, it's not okay. That doesn't make sense.
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