singlelife Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Does it work? A lot of guys have trouble knowing if you actually like them not.
wezol Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 Depends on if it's coupled with anything else. Do ya'll chat (text or call) outside of wherever, have ya'll had dinner? There is a girl I'm going on a date with tonight actually, who is very subtle at flirting, very hard to catch actually. I realized she was interested in me when she offered to help me with other classes that we don't have together, texting me once or twice a day, asking how my day was, ect ect. At the same time though, I asked her on a date after only a few days of knowing her. I've made the mistake in the past of trying to become friends and THEN asking, but by that time I'm usually "friend zoned", so I pretty much made my intentions known right from the start. Why do you ask? If you don't mind.
Author singlelife Posted February 9, 2012 Author Posted February 9, 2012 I female friend told me most of this list is true. Wanting opinion. Thanks in advance. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=signs%20woman%20flirting%20you&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcenters.netscape.compuserve.com%2Fmen%2Fpackage.jsp%3Fname%3Dmen%2Fpm%2Fflirting%2Fpage1&ei=CR0zT5DbM6nq2AWQwbDfBw&usg=AFQjCNGD85Bat0uTBND9RQ2SXKJAMX0HZQ
Oxy Moronovich Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 That link you posted is lame. I've had chicks do all that stuff on me only to flake out when I show interest. I am damn sure most guys on LS could say the same thing. Men do not understand subtle hints from women. So women should stop being subtle if they are interested in a guy.
carhill Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I've found the vast majority of women I've interacted with in life over the age of puberty know how to get a man's interest, even if they're not spectacular looking. It's a corollary to how they wrapped daddy around their finger as a little girl. Whether subtle or obvious, the message gets out. With the experience of that message, over a lifetime of such experiences, a man comes to understand that getting his interest is not the same thing as being interested in him. I've had enough of such experiences to opine that I'll only be sure of a woman's interest when she's holding my hand and looking into my eyes as I die. At some point, one has to accept the reality of their experience. Is that a cynical perspective? Absolutely. I recall, recently, relevant to compliments as a subtle form of flirting, a friend's wife commenting that I don't take compliments very gracefully. She's right. I explained to her how a lifetime of such compliments were overwhelmingly used to mold and manipulate and how that has affected my intrinsic response, but did promise to work on it and thanked her for her honesty, and for the treats she got my cat I won't go as far as to say the linked list is 'lame', as healthy women can flirt in such a manner and it can be honest. That said, it's a big wide world of YMMV and boy has my mileage varied in that realm. Would it work on me today? I highly doubt it. It did for a goodly period of my life, yeah.
Emilia Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I female friend told me most of this list is true. Wanting opinion. Thanks in advance. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=signs%20woman%20flirting%20you&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwebcenters.netscape.compuserve.com%2Fmen%2Fpackage.jsp%3Fname%3Dmen%2Fpm%2Fflirting%2Fpage1&ei=CR0zT5DbM6nq2AWQwbDfBw&usg=AFQjCNGD85Bat0uTBND9RQ2SXKJAMX0HZQ No. I do that to guys I banter with in the office because we are playful. I socialise with men because I'm part of a surf group and it's a pre-dominantly male sport, I initiate chats with them, touch their arms, etc because we go away on trips together as mates and spend sometimes 24 hours together. It's a matter of building a bond with the people I spend a lot of time with and I'm also one of the group's organisers so it's sort of part of my 'job' to be friendly and amicable. The only point that's not applicable is starting a conversation about sex, I never do that with men I'm just friends with.
zengirl Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 No, I do a lot of those things, just socially. Though, yes, it's done differently when friendship already exists. I do just go up and talk to men who are not friends (and I'm taken so it's not interested) in some cases, but I wouldn't be playful or talk about certain things, like sex, with them -- though I've talked about sex (not in a crude way) with male friends. I don't really see male friends as any different from female friends, in terms of censoring myself. (I guess you wouldn't talk about periods or whatever, but I don't talk about that **** with my female friends.) I think if a woman is interested, she can definitely make it known if she wants. I always did. A lot of women won't, though; they were raised to just 'wait' for the man to move in. Sad, and a lot of frustration, really.
EnigmaticClarity Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 That link you posted is lame. I've had chicks do all that stuff on me only to flake out when I show interest. I am damn sure most guys on LS could say the same thing. Men do not understand subtle hints from women. So women should stop being subtle if they are interested in a guy. That list is not lame. If a woman is doing some of those things to you and then flakes out, the odds are that you said or did something that turned her off, or she noticed something later on that she didn't immediately notice, and that could be anything--a tattoo/piercing, the way your voice sounds, your body language, something about your clothes or smell, etc. I wouldn't even call that a list of "subtle" hints--those are the screaming hints that most women throw out there that are short of explicitly stating interest, something that few women will do due to fear of rejection; they're used to men taking that risk. Subtle hints would be micro-analysis of emotion, behavior, attitude, voice, and movement. Most shy women just think that talking back to a guy and sometimes varying their tone of voice to sound interested is enough--THAT'S subtle. To really show interest, she's got to make some concerted effort and not be so shy, and most of that list involves actions the women has to consciously be aware of and engage in to send the signal. If she touches you and talks sexually to you, there are really only a few possibilites--she likes you, she's ****ing around/toying with you, or she's a bit naive and isn't even conscious of the usual mating dance between men and women.
Oxy Moronovich Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 EnigmaticClarity, are you going to tell me you've never had a woman do all those things on that list and then flake out on you? The only way that could be true is if you've talked to little or no women. Yes, a woman can do all those things on that list and you end up getting into a LTR with her. But she could also do everything on that list only to flake out at the last minute. Let's go over the stuff on the list, shall we? 10. She keeps glancing over at you. 9. She smiles at you. 8. She goes out of her way to get you to notice her. 7. She plays with her hair. 6. She initiates conversation. 5. She laughs at your jokes. 4. She asks if you like certain activities. 3. She pays you a compliment. 2. She makes sexual comments. 1. She touches you. I've had women do most of these things only to bail out. Sometimes it's my fault; sometimes it's her fault. My point: these subtle hints won't surely lead to a relationship, even short-term. So guys should stop reading into them as if hints from women will get them laid.
EnigmaticClarity Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 My point: these subtle hints won't surely lead to a relationship, even short-term. So guys should stop reading into them as if hints from women will get them laid. Such absolute expectations are inherently unrealistic. That's still a great list of attraction indicators.
Oxy Moronovich Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Such absolute expectations are inherently unrealistic. That's still a great list of attraction indicators. For me, it's not about if she shows attraction. It's about if she follows through with her attraction.
Cypress25 Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 "Subtle" is subjective. Some men are very observant and perceptive, and they notice even the most subtle of flirtatious behavior. Some men, however, are so oblivious that they wouldn't notice blatant flirting if it smacked them in the face. These are usually the men who complain that women are too subtle, when really they're just too dense to notice the signs.
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