Jynxx Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Jynxx, my username is a joke, can you tell me how I'm stupid based on my comment? Sure. First, 50% is a terrible guess, upwards of 50% is even worse. It seems like your sample to reach that numer consisted of quote "anybody you see who takes any part in social nightlife", combined with the lack of understanding that most people with an active social life only use when they go out (and in my experience not even close to 100% of the times they go out) and most of them don't go out on a weekly basis. Like others have said, 15 to 20% who smoke on a weekly basis would be plenty. Secondly, assuming 5% is an unreasonable guess in most of the world is ignorant, not to use harsher words. I couldn't care less if you smoke or not. Because I'm willing to wager I have a way better job than you, and I have a Bachelors degree, and am in the process of getting a graduate degree by taking nightschool after work, AND I still have time to hang out with friends and have fun! So to me, that's pretty awesome. You're on. I have a Master degree in Engineering and run my own company. Neener-neener.
misssmartypants Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Sure. First, 50% is a terrible guess, upwards of 50% is even worse. It seems like your sample to reach that numer consisted of quote "anybody you see who takes any part in social nightlife", combined with the lack of understanding that most people with an active social life only use when they go out (and in my experience not even close to 100% of the times they go out) and most of them don't go out on a weekly basis. Like others have said, 15 to 20% who smoke on a weekly basis would be plenty. Secondly, assuming 5% is an unreasonable guess in most of the world is ignorant, not to use harsher words. I couldn't care less if you smoke or not. You're on. I have a Master degree in Engineering and run my own company. Neener-neener. Smart men are hot.
monkey00 Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) I had a psychology professor tell me that the worse drug out there is booze, and worse of all it's legal! I couldn't agree more. The effects on an alcoholic (or avid drinker) is a lot worse and you can die from alcohol poisoning. Anyway I don't smoke either, and I'm clean. But if I had an opportunity I would do it leisurely. I used to be uptight when I was younger, but as I'm growing into myself I find myself more willing to tip over to the other side every now and then and be open minded about certain things. The greatest minds in history did drugs, look at Steve jobs, and Van Gogh (well he took absinthe which was just liquor that probably had a high % proof). I don't think it would be a deal breaker for me if they did it on occasion, just don't make a daily habit out of it. My friend the other day was scrolling through some OKC profiles and just about every girl's questionnaire he looked at was a shocking yes, that they would be open to doing drugs and open to a guy doing drugs...though those profiles were women who were in their 20's so maybe that says something...that they like bad boys? or drug addicts. Edited February 7, 2012 by monkey00
TheFinalWord Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) I do not smoke pot. None of my boyfriends have smoked pot. Recently I have met several people in their 20s and even in their 30s who smoke pot on a regular basis (more than once per week). I don't like this at all and i sort of consider it a deal breaker. Is this too rigid/uptight? How often is pot in adults in their 20s/30s? It is definitely a deal breaker! Anyone who participates in illegal drugs would be a deal breaker IMHO. Although I'm pretty much a libertarian and think it should be legal, but that's another post. A good number of adults smoke pot; it's practically legal in some portions of the country. The thing with illegal marijuana is that it is actually quite nasty. In undergrad a buddy and I looked at marijuana under a microscope. There was dirt and bugs in it. You have to remember this stuff isn't regulated by the FDA; its grown in peoples basements and in the woods. Also a lot of dealers will coat pot in formaldehyde to increase the effects of "dirt weed". LOL I do agree that alcohol causes more acute problems; however pot (THC the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana) stays in the body much longer (depends on the persons body fat). Alcohol is processed by the liver at a much quicker rate. So if a person smokes pot it stays in them for awhile, especially if they smoke it regularly. Reminds me of a buddy from 10 years ago that got a great job offer but had to take a drug test. This guy smoked pot like it was going out of style. He was pretty lean which helped him out, but he also drank about 5 gallons of water a day and did all kinds of crazy stuff like take shots of vinegar multiple times in the day and drank bottle after bottle of cranberry juice to pass the test LOL the moral of the story is most adults don't smoke it b/c they have to pass random drug tests at work. Edited February 7, 2012 by TheFinalWord
Thieves Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 One of my very good male friends who I hang out with quite a bit smokes pot. I would call him a "pothead" based on what other people may think from the outside, since he smokes pot fairly regularly -- at least a few times a week, which is often enough. However, he's also one of the keenest, most passionate and attentive young men I've had the pleasure of knowing. He's a great worker, holds down two good jobs, and very recently withdrew from the college he was previously going to in order to enroll in another that better suits his ambitions as far as the career he wants to pursue. As for me, personally, I can't say I would never date a pot smoker since I know that not all smokers are exactly the same. Some people have control of it, some let it go too far. I've tried smoking a few times, and I honestly don't think it's my thing, definitely not something I'd do very often, but I don't judge others harshly for doing it. So I won't say that it's a total dealbreaker. It depends how much they actually do it and how it affects their life, in the end.
PIM Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Personally I think that weed much like alcohol depends on the person. I smoke weed regularly and when I say regularly I mean probably once or twice a week. Having said that I'm also a very successful software engineer(who said potheads can't do the hard sciences?), I work out regularly and I also do consulting on the side(hence me being up so late trying figure out this damn bug I created). And I'm not alone, well at least from what I see from the NYC area. I would say a good 20% to 25% smoke weed not sure how regularly they do it but when I have a party it seems people are more than willing to partake. Now these people are lawyers, bankers, real estate agents, and IT workers not exactly the fringe crowd. The idea that all pot smokers are dumb, lazy, hippy, burnouts is totally inaccurate it's just that those type of people attract the most attention. It would be the equivalent of judging all drinkers based on the actions of some loud obnoxious fall down drunk. Oh also to monkey00 do you live in the city? If you do there are delivery services all over Manhattan. Edited February 7, 2012 by PIM
Woggle Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Alcohol will kill you quicker than weed ever will. You can die from alcohol poisoning but I have never heard of a person overdosing on weed.
kaylan Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) I do not smoke pot. None of my boyfriends have smoked pot. Recently I have met several people in their 20s and even in their 30s who smoke pot on a regular basis (more than once per week). I don't like this at all and i sort of consider it a deal breaker. Is this too rigid/uptight? How often is pot in adults in their 20s/30s? Id prefer once every couple of weeks, versus more than once a week. I dated a girl in the summer and fall who smoked a couple times a week, and I got used to it. But the problem is that some people I know who smoke pot with regularity dont seem to be on my level in terms of intellectual convo. And some have been major burnouts. This chick was dumb as nails, but Ive had friends who were damn smart and smoked a lot. This doesnt mean I havent met even more folks who are smart as heck and smoke, because I have. Its just I have met a lot of frequent smokers who are slow minded or not doing much with their lives. I think this has more to do with them as a person, than the effects of the pot. They will look for a crutch no matter what it is. Alcohol, pot, harder drugs, etc. Basically, the substance doesnt make them a loser, their personality makes them a loser and then uses the substance as a crutch. The fact that I had a few professors who were articulate and accomplished as hell, but still smoked(dunno how much), shows me its all about the person and not the pot a lot of the times. In ending, its dependent on the person. If someone smokes just to unwind after a long days work, and it doesnt interfere with their job, friends, family, or school, Im fine with it. Pots a soft drug in my opinion, and I see it in the same category as alcohol. If someone was doing hard drugs frequently, then thats a deal breaker. Harder drugs have completely different effects on the body than alcohol and pot. I still want to try some party drugs myself once or twice. Stuff like Ex, and take it at a rave possibly. But its a curiosity thing. It would never be frequent in my life. Edited February 7, 2012 by kaylan
Feelin Frisky Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Pot smoking around that age--30's plus--on a regular basis is worrisome to me for one reason: not that it's illegal or "nasty" but that one can't have two lives at one time. Either you are facing real life and growing, or you're in a state where you envision what could be but don't do much about it because it only exists when you're high. I stopped my occasional pot smoking a long time ago because I wanted to be sure that my visions of the possible were based on my own sane view of what I learn. I can smoke weed any time and think I have the key to everything but I know better and I know that people who can make a difference can smell "bong vision" a mile away. Everything in a "plan" must have a clear rational answer and you can't sell that if you just toked it up last night.
FitChick Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Since so many of you are anti-pot, shouldn't you be writing your Congressmen to tell them to close our southern border? Millions of pounds of all types of drugs, not just pot, come across every year.
OldSkool Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Holy crap, this is like watching "Reefer Madness" in print. I love the "holier than thou" attitude that many of you non-users are projecting. Having never tried it, I am sure that you can state that it has nothing to offer. Addiction is destructive, not necessarily the material consumed. Sex addiction is destructive, adrenaline addiction can be destructive. However some people just can't allow for human fallibility so they have to blame the substance. I am a daily smoker. I mean DAILY. Sometimes multiple times a day. For me it is a choice to use an herb that grows naturally rather than to swallow the poisons that Phizer, Eli Lilly, Bayer Labs and the rest of the pharmaceutical companies are pushing on us for everything from anxiety (Benzodiazapene, Valium, etc) to pain relief (Hydrocodone, Opiates) I make a six figure income, I have a business on the side. I go hiking, kayaking, backpacking or some other outdoor sport almost every weekend. Last month alone, I climbed two peaks above 10,000 ft, both in heavy snow. Then I climbed back down and enjoyed a nice puff at the trailhead. Far from lazy or unmotivated eh? Here's a newsflash for all of the people who think that it's such a "dealbreaker". We Don't Care. We don't want to be around people who are so negative and picky. We don't NEED you. Here in CA there is a whole community that understands the beneficial effects of THC. All we have to do is walk into one of thousands of dispensaries and we know that anyone working there, anyone who is a customer, does not have a problem with THC. We will look for dates there, in the many THC specific online communities. Hell, even dating sites such as POF use that qualification as a matching standard. If we want to find a roommate with like minds, we simply add "420 friendly" to the standard Boolean search string. Such fools are too dense to understand that the rest of us can pick them out of a crowd and avoid them (as potential mates, roomies, employees, neighbors, conversations, etc) as we would the plague. Thank heaven some discrimination is still legal! Funny, we do the same to haters like you. WE THE PEOPLE have overwhelmingly voted in favor of medical laws in several states now. In CA, we are pushing several initiatives to make exactly what you state above illegal. Not to mention that last year the Governator made possession of less than an ounce a non-arrestable, bailable civil infraction. Think "Speeding Ticket" with no effect on your driving record, if you can wrap your small mind around that. You all can hate, but we regular users are used to it. We have fought too hard and too long to be bothered by you.
Art_Critic Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 I am a daily smoker. I mean DAILY. Sometimes multiple times a day. This thread isn't about whether or not pot is good for you or not or even about your daily smoking habits. Maybe you could re-read the OP and comment on what the OP should do in her case instead of turning this into some holier than thou thread.
OldSkool Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 This thread isn't about whether or not pot is good for you or not or even about your daily smoking habits. Bullcrap! YOU re-read the thread and look at the comments exactly about frequency of use and whether it is bad for you (makes you lazy, etc) Maybe you could re-read the OP and comment on what the OP should do in her case instead of turning this into some holier than thou thread. Oh I know what the OP should do, but no one is going to like it. She should grow up and make up her own mind based upon her OWN values and her OWN experience, instead of going to the online version of The Jerry Springer show and asking the "audience" whether THEY think SHE should make pot a dealbreaker. Maybe look into both sides of the issue with independent thought and research rather than going with what she perceives "society" (to the sad degree it is represented on this board) approves of. Like I said, We (the THC appreciating community) don't NEED the anti's approval of what we do. WE decide who WE want to associate, converse, date and work with, and that bugs the crap out of you.
Art_Critic Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 WE decide who WE want to associate, converse, date and work with, and that bugs the crap out of you. In reality what bugs the crap outta me is that your posts haven't reached out to help the OP and are in my mind OFF TOPIC and self serving. If you can't help the person seeking help without tooting ONLY your own agenda then why post at all ?
veggirl Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Bullcrap! YOU re-read the thread and look at the comments exactly about frequency of use and whether it is bad for you (makes you lazy, etc) Oh I know what the OP should do, but no one is going to like it. She should grow up and make up her own mind based upon her OWN values and her OWN experience, instead of going to the online version of The Jerry Springer show and asking the "audience" whether THEY think SHE should make pot a dealbreaker. Maybe look into both sides of the issue with independent thought and research rather than going with what she perceives "society" (to the sad degree it is represented on this board) approves of. Like I said, We (the THC appreciating community) don't NEED the anti's approval of what we do. WE decide who WE want to associate, converse, date and work with, and that bugs the crap out of you. Yikes I'm one who said I wouldn't date someone who was still smoking weed daily in their late 20s, etc. I dated a pothead for a long time. He smoked MULTIPLE times a day. I didn't smoke at ALL. It was annoying as f*ck. It stunk up his apartment. He was always in a friggin fog! It did alter his personality...high him wasn't the same as sober him, and smoking multiple times a day means he was almost always high. Why the fk do you have a problem with someone who doesn't want to date someone who acts differently so much of the time?
kaylan Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) Pot smoking around that age--30's plus--on a regular basis is worrisome to me for one reason: not that it's illegal or "nasty" but that one can't have two lives at one time. Either you are facing real life and growing, or you're in a state where you envision what could be but don't do much about it because it only exists when you're high. Um...what are you talking about? I dont smoke but I know better than to jump to conclusions like this. Explain to me if being drunk is any better than being high. Then tell me if you think those who drink on the weekend or with their buddies during the football game(like many men of all ages)...tell me if you think those people are trying to escape reality every time they have a drink. The point is that its different for every person. Some people alter their state of mind for fun, or to relax, or because they are trying to escape reality and create their own. It depends on the person. Ive met a lot of dumb burnouts and a bunch of smart, intellectual smokers. I stopped my occasional pot smoking a long time ago because I wanted to be sure that my visions of the possible were based on my own sane view of what I learn. I can smoke weed any time and think I have the key to everything but I know better and I know that people who can make a difference can smell "bong vision" a mile away. Everything in a "plan" must have a clear rational answer and you can't sell that if you just toked it up last night.Ohhhhh....so I get it. Since you smoked for a particular reason and had a certain thought process while high, you jumped to the conclusion that others were the same way. I finally understand why you wrote what you did in the first paragraph I quoted. The funny thing is, no matter what you say about bong vision, there are influential who can put things together pretty well in their mind even if they are high. As I said before, everyone smokes for different reasons...and not everyone will have the same reaction. Personally, I get tired and fall asleep whenever I am high. Which is why I never do it anymore. It doesnt make me giddy and chilled out like it does my friends. Edited February 7, 2012 by kaylan
OldSkool Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Because this forum has degenerated over the years to a laughingstock of the advice forum that it was originally established as. I'm tired of hearing everyone attack everything and anyone they don't agree with. I'm tired of people like SincereOnlineGuy who is anything but sincere and tries to talk down to other people. I'm tired of the self entitled attitude the members have adopted and I'm going to start handing out the same damm medicine. You don't like it, block me. I'm going to speak my mind and you can't do anything about it.
OldSkool Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Yikes I'm one who said I wouldn't date someone who was still smoking weed daily in their late 20s, etc. I dated a pothead for a long time. He smoked MULTIPLE times a day. I didn't smoke at ALL. It was annoying as f*ck. It stunk up his apartment. He was always in a friggin fog! It did alter his personality...high him wasn't the same as sober him, and smoking multiple times a day means he was almost always high. Why the fk do you have a problem with someone who doesn't want to date someone who acts differently so much of the time? I don't have a problem with that. If you don't want to date me for whatever reason, I have one response... NEXT! I have a problem with 1. People who can't think for themselves. 2. People who are so damm narrow minded that they have one experience and think it applies to everyone. This thread isn't about someone acting differently most of the time. It's about whether FREQUENT POT USE SHOULD BE A DEALBREAKER IF THE PERSON IS OVER 20's READ the OP. Many people I know who are also regular smokers don't act any differently stoned or sober, except we eat a little more and smile a lot more. As to the smell, I know patients who don't smoke at all, but they ingest, vaporize or topically apply it.
ShannonMI Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 Yikes I'm one who said I wouldn't date someone who was still smoking weed daily in their late 20s, etc. I dated a pothead for a long time. He smoked MULTIPLE times a day. I didn't smoke at ALL. It was annoying as f*ck. It stunk up his apartment. He was always in a friggin fog! It did alter his personality...high him wasn't the same as sober him, and smoking multiple times a day means he was almost always high. Why the fk do you have a problem with someone who doesn't want to date someone who acts differently so much of the time? I second this. I dated an every day pothead and "annoying as f*ck" is a perfect description. He was always in a daze and would ramble on and on about nonsense. I was sober through out this. I did try smoking it once with him and hated the effect it had on me. I laughed my @ss off for about 20 minutes straight and then started crying uncontrollably. Not a good time. But to each their own. I do know functioning potheads as well. Not too many, but a few.
ShannonMI Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 I don't have a problem with that. If you don't want to date me for whatever reason, I have one response... NEXT! I have a problem with 1. People who can't think for themselves. 2. People who are so damm narrow minded that they have one experience and think it applies to everyone. This thread isn't about someone acting differently most of the time. It's about whether FREQUENT POT USE SHOULD BE A DEALBREAKER IF THE PERSON IS OVER 20's READ the OP. Many people I know who are also regular smokers don't act any differently stoned or sober, except we eat a little more and smile a lot more. As to the smell, I know patients who don't smoke at all, but they ingest, vaporize or topically apply it. So you are a functioning pothead? Good for you. Not many of you are. Many are losers with zero ambition.
carhill Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 I don't like this at all and i sort of consider it a deal breaker. Is this too rigid/uptight? How often is pot in adults in their 20s/30s? It sound like you have articulated a boundary that's comfortable for you. My recollection of that era of my life was that most of the folks I encountered who used drugs were more into cocaine. I did have a few friends who used marijuana and had grow operations and they respected that I didn't and likewise respected my space and didn't use within it. Back then it was entirely illegal. Nowadays, in my age group, about the only time I get a contact high is when the sheriff is burning a neighbor's field but I've seen they don't do that as much anymore because of our pollution laws. I wonder where it's going now. I'm talking about acres of wacky-tabacky, generally interspersed with silage corn. It's big business around here. If I'm driving past a field and get that kinda skunky smell, yep, it's harvest time TBH, I'm only rigid when others drug use (including alcohol) impacts me negatively, whether that be a drunk crashing through my fences, or a friend lighting up a joint in my house. To me, it's a matter of respect. I respect their autonomy and don't infringe upon it and expect the same in return.
OldSkool Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 So you are a functioning pothead? Good for you. Not many of you are. Many are losers with zero ambition. If you want to use the decidedly derogatory label "Functioning Pothead", go ahead. I am a "Medical Marijuana Patient" with a pharmaceutical history that allows me to walk into any Medical Office and after a brief consultation with a physician, order up any number of pills we may think I need. I am a man who's has parts of his nervous system destroyed by 20 years of poisons pumped into my body by an establishment that puts profit before healing. I am a man who is absolutely grateful that I live in a state where the voters have enough compassion to understand that as long as I am not hurting anyone else, I have a right to treat myself as I see fit. I am an activist a proponent and a lobbyist for a movement I believe in. Bottom line. 1. You posted the question, should it be a deal breaker if a man is a regular pot smoker/user after a certain age. 2. You got responses from the "community" (and I use that term loosely) based upon their experiences and a couple of hateful attacks against smokers. I'm looking at you SincereOnlineGuy. 3. In between slapping a few haters down, if you read what I have said in context; It doesn't matter to the members of the THC community if it is a deal breaker. We don't WANT someone in our life that is going to make it an issue. We have enough choices within the community (Yes, out here in CA it really is that large) that we have no desire to try to convince someone who is anti to give us a shot. So you can make it a deal breaker, just don't be surprised or call him an ******* if he is indifferent to your attitude about it and doesn't care if you break up over it. I'm done with this thread.
ShannonMI Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 If you want to use the decidedly derogatory label "Functioning Pothead", go ahead. I am a "Medical Marijuana Patient" with a pharmaceutical history that allows me to walk into any Medical Office and after a brief consultation with a physician, order up any number of pills we may think I need. I am a man who's has parts of his nervous system destroyed by 20 years of poisons pumped into my body by an establishment that puts profit before healing. I am a man who is absolutely grateful that I live in a state where the voters have enough compassion to understand that as long as I am not hurting anyone else, I have a right to treat myself as I see fit. I am an activist a proponent and a lobbyist for a movement I believe in. Bottom line. 1. You posted the question, should it be a deal breaker if a man is a regular pot smoker/user after a certain age. 2. You got responses from the "community" (and I use that term loosely) based upon their experiences and a couple of hateful attacks against smokers. I'm looking at you SincereOnlineGuy. 3. In between slapping a few haters down, if you read what I have said in context; It doesn't matter to the members of the THC community if it is a deal breaker. We don't WANT someone in our life that is going to make it an issue. We have enough choices within the community (Yes, out here in CA it really is that large) that we have no desire to try to convince someone who is anti to give us a shot. So you can make it a deal breaker, just don't be surprised or call him an ******* if he is indifferent to your attitude about it and doesn't care if you break up over it. I'm done with this thread. You're from Cali where they have medical despensories all over and from what it sounds like you have legit medical issues and the weed helps you. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Weed does have medicinal benefits for some people. That's how it should be used. Not as a recreational thing where you are in a fog, have no ambition and can't remember sh*t. Yeah it does that to some people. My boyfriend lived in California (he's now in NY with me) and had easy access to pot via the despensories. This was the worst f*cking thing for him because pot has a horrible affect on him. It makes him nuts. He's bipolar and believe it or not, the weed made his manias worse. He is someone that should not smoke weed and if he were to start up again, that would be a deal breaker for me. If that makes me narrow minded, oh well!!
Thieves Posted February 7, 2012 Posted February 7, 2012 My boyfriend lived in California (he's now in NY with me) and had easy access to pot via the despensories. This was the worst f*cking thing for him because pot has a horrible affect on him. It makes him nuts. He's bipolar and believe it or not, the weed made his manias worse. He is someone that should not smoke weed and if he were to start up again, that would be a deal breaker for me. If that makes me narrow minded, oh well!! It doesn't make you narrow-minded in this situation, no. No offense, but your boyfriend is not very sharp if he knows fully well that he has a mental disorder (bi-polar) and continues to smoke pot. Especially if it makes him worse. Anyone, even those who do not do drugs, knows that if you have any type of pre-exisiting mental conditions that participating in certain drugs can increase the possibility of triggering those conditions if they are dormant, or have a history of running in the family. If the condition is active and is recognized by the user, there is still a possibility of worsening it. Either way, it is a tricky road to walk down. So in this case, I think it's alright that you see this as a dealbreaker -- you said it yourself, he is not really the kind of person who should be smoking weed in the first place, especially if he becomes another person when he is smoking and it is negatively affecting your relationship. To me, this is not the usual "pothead" conversation. I see this as a separate and different issue, rather than a discussion about those who use pot in general.
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