AD1980 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/short%20guys Theyres thousands of neagtive tweets abourt short men from women and that's just in the last hour :laugh: And not just short men are ugly which theyre's plenty but i hater short men and other mean cruel things but yes women dont care that much about height and it's in our heads:rolleyes:
somedude81 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Do you enjoy finding new ways to piss yourself off?
Titania22 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 What the hell do you care about what the masses think anyway? Most people are stupid egotists that can't have an original thought. Seriously they are not worth upsetting yourself over.
Citizen Erased Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Bet there are more people tweeting about fat chicks than short guys. Twitter is lame anyway.
johan Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Not sure why that should be a surprise. Tall men are genetically superior. Natural selection dictates that short men will go extinct sooner or later. No controversy there. Getting upset about it won't change it.
insertnamehere Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Twitter is lame anyway. This is the big takeaway should have from this. Twitter == teh dummzorz Tall men are genetically superior. Ah, pop evolution in a dating a forum. This has never been done before. Height is largely a function of nutrition. The best information that can be gleaned from adult height is that your parents weren't negligent. There has long been a tendency to overstate the genetic superiority of tall people. But, since we're on a dating forum, rather than dig into it, I'll just note that these place are littered with pop evolution and pop anthropology "information".
somedude81 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Seriously? Tall men genetically superior Also, I don't think height is connected to nutrition either. At 5'6, I'm exactly as tall as my Cuban grandfather who died before I was born.
insertnamehere Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Also, I don't think height is connected to nutrition either. At 5'6, I'm exactly as tall as my Cuban grandfather who died before I was born. Anecdotes aren't evidence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height#Determinants_of_growth_and_height Key quotes: "The only gene known to have an influence on human height is HMGA2. People who carry two copies of the "tall" allele of the HMGA2 gene are up to 1 cm taller than those who carry two copies of the "short" allele." 1 cm difference ain't much. "there is an accumulative generation effect such that nutrition and health over generations influences the height of descendants to varying degrees." Food. It's a biggie, especially when multiplier effects are compounded over generations. In terms of sexual selection, male height should at best be seen as symptomatic of desirable traits, rather than a more directly causal sexual cue such as hip-to-waist ratio in women.
kaylan Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 (edited) ^Correct about food. Just look at South Korea and North Korea. Average heights are taller in South Korea due to better nutrition. From a story about North Korean famine effects: "When he arrived, 14-year-old sister Eun Hang did not recognize the scrawny little kid walking up the dirt path to their cottage in a village near the North Korean border, whom she hadn't seen for four years. "I can't believe he used to be my big brother," Eun Hang said sadly as she recalled their early childhood, when Myung Bok was always a full head taller. Now she can peek over the crown of his head without standing on her tiptoes." http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=20040214&slug=korea14 Also, as diets have changed in recent years due to globalization, some Asian countries have seen their average heights increasing among young people. Look at whats happened to Japan since they became buddies with the rest of the world. Globalization affects cultures all around the world. Especially diets. "In 50 years, according to statistics kept by the Ministry of Education, the average height of Japanese 11-year-olds has increased by more than 5 1/2 inches. The height of girls, who grow faster at that age, meanwhile, has increased even more." http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/01/world/tokyo-journal-the-japanese-it-seems-are-outgrowing-japan.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm Edited January 30, 2012 by kaylan
Emilia Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Johan was joking around. Even I got that one. Indeed. Nonsense about the food by the way. Southern Europeans are seen as having a superior diet by and large and Northern Europeans on average are much taller. Same for certain parts of the UK, on the coast around Essex for example you have a lot of shorter people due to migrations and landing from Europe over the centuries that genetically affected height. In Africa you can have a tribe full of tall people and a tribe full of short people living in the same country despite having a similar diet. Being tall vs being short has different advantages and disadvantages, tall isn't necessarily better.
Cracker Jack Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Lol, don't care. Not trying to be smart, but do you always surf the net looking for women's opinion on short guys or something?
oaks Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 https://twitter.com/#!/search/realtime/short%20guys Theyres thousands of neagtive tweets abourt short men from women and that's just in the last hour :laugh: Just skimming down the list presented by that link, it seemed to me that most of the tweets were nothing about "short guys" and merely included both words in an unrelated way, with the "short" preceding words like "shorts", "skirt", "hair" etc. and the "guys" appearing to have the meaning of "people" rather than "men". YMMV.
kaylan Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Indeed. Nonsense about the food by the way. Southern Europeans are seen as having a superior diet by and large and Northern Europeans on average are much taller. Same for certain parts of the UK, on the coast around Essex for example you have a lot of shorter people due to migrations and landing from Europe over the centuries that genetically affected height. In Africa you can have a tribe full of tall people and a tribe full of short people living in the same country despite having a similar diet. Being tall vs being short has different advantages and disadvantages, tall isn't necessarily better. Diet has plenty to do with it...and I am inclined to take actual evidence from those in the research community, over the anecdotal accounts of an internet forum poster. If its truly "nonsense about the food" do explain to me whats going on in North Korea. Read the link I provided as well as do some additional reading. Theres plenty of info regarding this online. Since the Korean peninsula was split into 2 different countries, we have seen North Koreans shrink each generation. I dont see how you can say that nutrition has nothing to do with that, especially when you consider the famines that are well documented in North Korea.
Cypress25 Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 You could find negative tweets about anything. There are millions of people on Twitter, posting irrelevant crap all day long. Who cares? Nutrition can certainly have an effect on growth, but genetics usually trumps diet. Being malnourished throughout childhood can prevent you from growing as tall as you should, but if you're genetically predisposed to being short, the most nutritious diet in the world won't make you tall.
jobaba Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Some of those women are not attractive at all. I wonder where some people get the stones to be so shallow.
PJKino Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Not surprising most women dont like short men If a women has options she wont settle for the short guy shell get the tall guy who comes with automatical social status
PJKino Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Some of those women are not attractive at all. I wonder where some people get the stones to be so shallow. Average and unattractive women ive found to be some of the most shallow and cruel women ive ran into.. Maybe its a defense mechanism or maybe when they get pumped and dumped by good looking guys it inflates their ego throw in their friends and family telling them how pretty they are evne if they're trainwrecks
Content Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Got to take into consideration twitter is used by mostly younger people so its probably shallow girls in their teens or young 20's not mature adults making harsh statements
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Also, I don't think height is connected to nutrition either. Genetics determine it but bad nutrition can alter it. There's a common misconception that humans are getting taller, but anthropologists studying height in ancient skeletons have linked it more to the rise and fall of civilizations. When a society is stable and food is plentiful, average heights tend to rise. Ancient Roman citizens during the height of their empire were on average about the same height that modern central Europeans are. In America it used to be common in the 1700s and 1800s for men to be far shorter than they are now, so Americans often believe we're all getting taller--but we're all just eating a lot better than the early settlers and pioneers did. As the others pointed out, heights in developing nations where malnourishment and famine are more common are well below those in developed nations. In most of the non-Russian parts of Asia (India, China, Korea, Philippines, etc), women average around 5' 0" and men average around 5' 5".
somedude81 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I grew up in the US and I was never that poor. I highly doubt poor nutrition was the cause of me being short. As I said before, my Cuban grandfather was 5'6. I also have two male cousins (brothers) who were born in the US and they have two Cuban parents, while I only have one. Both guys are shorter than me. Yes, people living in Cuba may be malnourished, and can explain the shorter heights, but when they have kids in America and get plenty of food, the kids are still short, what gives. To throw in a monkey wrench, my dad who lived in in Cuba till he was 10, is 5'10.
johan Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Simple explanations to complex problems appeal to people who prefer not to think too much about things. "Nutrition." "Why is that guy short?" "Nutrition." "Why is she so grouchy?" "Nutrition." "What was Hitler's deal?" "Nutrition." "Why does my thumb hurt?" "Nutrition." "Why am I getting angrier at you by the minute?" "Nutrition."
Star Gazer Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Simple explanations to complex problems appeal to people who prefer not to think too much about things. "Nutrition." "Why is that guy short?" "Nutrition." "Why is she so grouchy?" "Nutrition." "What was Hitler's deal?" "Nutrition." "Why does my thumb hurt?" "Nutrition." "Why am I getting angrier at you by the minute?" "Nutrition." So, in short, blame your parents.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I grew up in the US and I was never that poor. I highly doubt poor nutrition was the cause of me being short. As I said before, my Cuban grandfather was 5'6. I also have two male cousins (brothers) who were born in the US and they have two Cuban parents, while I only have one. Both guys are shorter than me. Yes, people living in Cuba may be malnourished, and can explain the shorter heights, but when they have kids in America and get plenty of food, the kids are still short, what gives. To throw in a monkey wrench, my dad who lived in in Cuba till he was 10, is 5'10. Genetics--of which random luck is just part of--determines height and bad nutrition mostly retards it. So yea, your genes made you your height. Some ethnicities are just shorter on average, hard to say why. Where did Cubans come from? I always assumed they were mostly Spanish, but I don't know really, never looked into their history. So much randomness is involved. Most super-tall people in the NBA didn't have super-tall parents, although some did. It sucks when you turn out shorter than your parents, but think how cheated fraternal twins must feel when one comes out significantly different than the other. I expect that within 100 years we'll figure out how to fairly safely alter people's heights at a young age via either genetic engineering or monkeying with the pituitary gland. It'll most likely be used to prevent the birth of very short people or to increase their growth if they are born with super-short genes, but who knows, some of the more radical states like China could use it to create superior athletes. Supposedly Yao Ming, a 7' 5" basketball player, is a product of a government program of arranged marriages between tall men and women along with some sort of height-maximizing fertility treatment--his dad is 6' 8" and his mom is 6' 4".
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Simple explanations to complex problems appeal to people who prefer not to think too much about things. "Nutrition." "Why is that guy short?" "Nutrition." "Why is she so grouchy?" "Nutrition." "What was Hitler's deal?" "Nutrition." "Why does my thumb hurt?" "Nutrition." "Why am I getting angrier at you by the minute?" "Nutrition." Simple denials are also the refuge of people who prefer not to think too much about things. In the case of height distribution, there's a fairly clear demographic correlation between nutrition and height. It's clear in today's population, and anthropologists have started to see it in past populations as well. Again, food doesn't make you taller--but not ENOUGH food, i.e. malnutrition or starvation such as is more common in third-world nations, does screw you up. I'm not talking about eating a balanced diet versus snacking on potato chips all day--I'm saying there's a link between not eating enough food, period, and eating plenty of food as people in developed nations usually do. All of us in America who are well fed can eliminate it from our equations of why we are the way we are relative to each other. Edited January 31, 2012 by EnigmaticClarity
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