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So, first of all...my girlfriend has started telling me she loves me multiple times. We can have a 15 minute conversation, and she will tell me she loves me at least 3 times or more. Is this a sign of trouble?

 

Second, my mother keeps trying to control me, by telling me that my girlfriend is going to break up with me unless I make changes in my life, such as getting a better job and getting rid of a lot of my stuff, such as my pinball machine and my guns. My mom constantly reminds me that my fiancee broke up with me last year and that it was probably because I didnt make enough money and I had way too much stuff. I have told my mom to go to hell multiple times, but she just keeps on bringing these things up. She literally cries on the phone and tells me how she is just trying to help me. I currently work for a bank and I make $33k a year. I am perfectly happy doing what I do and I have no problem paying my bills. I enjoy playing my pinball machine and I enjoy taking my guns to a gun club and shooting them. Those are excellent stress reliefs for me.

 

Please give me some advice.

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Do you feel something is wrong in the relationship? How often did you say "I love you" before? If it's a new thing then it's natural to say it a lot when it is exciting and new.

 

About your mother... her opinion just doesn't count. Anyone who would seriously leave you because of your hobbies isn't a person you want to be with anyways. If you are living a comfortable life and able to pay your bills then I wouldn't worry about that either. Happiness has no price tag.

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Your mom is worries about you and you tell her to go to hell? Youre a winner, shes expressing her concern to you.

 

The problem is you need to grow up and listen to your mom. All I see are excuses. Mom's say the best things for their children. I remember my mom yelling at me to let it go on a breakup I had last year. Never understood what she meant by that until 2 months ago. She was absolutely right. Now its your turn to listen to your mom. You know shes right because you sit here and try to validate everything she said to you on the forums. You just have to learn to admit it yourself.

 

As for your current girlfriend, shes toast, shes been toast for a long time. If I could guess when she says I love you three times in 15 minutes you tell her back that maybe once. Shes testing you and you are failing. You know its over in your heart thats why you posted here. I have read your past several posts over the months and I can tell you without a doubt that you are your own worst enemy. Time to grow up

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So, first of all...my girlfriend has started telling me she loves me multiple times. We can have a 15 minute conversation, and she will tell me she loves me at least 3 times or more. Is this a sign of trouble?

 

Second, my mother keeps trying to control me, by telling me that my girlfriend is going to break up with me unless I make changes in my life, such as getting a better job and getting rid of a lot of my stuff, such as my pinball machine and my guns. My mom constantly reminds me that my fiancee broke up with me last year and that it was probably because I didnt make enough money and I had way too much stuff. I have told my mom to go to hell multiple times, but she just keeps on bringing these things up. She literally cries on the phone and tells me how she is just trying to help me. I currently work for a bank and I make $33k a year. I am perfectly happy doing what I do and I have no problem paying my bills. I enjoy playing my pinball machine and I enjoy taking my guns to a gun club and shooting them. Those are excellent stress reliefs for me.

 

Please give me some advice.

 

As for the GF, couldn't say without more information.

 

Your mom however, I know the feeling all to well. I just hang up or walk out of the room without warning when she starts. Eventually she got the picture. "I'm not changing anything about my career I'm happy with it, that's non-negotiable" is the most explanation you owe her.

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Do you feel something is wrong in the relationship? How often did you say "I love you" before? If it's a new thing then it's natural to say it a lot when it is exciting and new.

 

About your mother... her opinion just doesn't count. Anyone who would seriously leave you because of your hobbies isn't a person you want to be with anyways. If you are living a comfortable life and able to pay your bills then I wouldn't worry about that either. Happiness has no price tag.

 

 

No, I dont really feel like anything is wrong with the relationship. It just seems strange to me that she will tell me she loves me, I will tell her that I love her back, then we will talk about a subject, and then she will tell me she loves me again. I guess it sort of feels like she says it so much that it concerns me a bit. I have never been with someone that says it so often. I have noticed that every time she gets off the phone with anyone she talks to, she also tells them she loves them. So I guess what it comes down to is that it seems like she almost over uses the words "I love you". I dont say it near as often because to me, if you say it too much, then it loses it's value. Does that make sense?

 

Thanks for the response about my mother. She really is driving me nuts. I dont want to cut her out of my life because she is my mother, but all these attacks on my career and hobbies are starting to take a toll on my self esteem. I have told her this, and then she always responds with the whole "I am only telling you this because I want what is best for you". But what it comes across as is that I am not good enough to be her son.

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As for the GF, couldn't say without more information.

 

Your mom however, I know the feeling all to well. I just hang up or walk out of the room without warning when she starts. Eventually she got the picture. "I'm not changing anything about my career I'm happy with it, that's non-negotiable" is the most explanation you owe her.

 

 

Thanks, I am glad that I am not the only one that is apparently not good enough for their mother.

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Sorry to shift gears but curious.. what pinball machine do you have? I'm love pinball.. used to own an Attack From Mars machine :)

 

I'm not so sure your gf telling you she loves you all the time is an issue? Maybe she's just really affectionate?

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awh man! one persons says hes screwed up and i can shrug it off as trolling, but two? now I'm gonna spend the next few hours scrolling through a bunch of posts that are unproductive and most likely have 0 entertainment value.

 

I was gonna watch porn!

 

I hope you're happy people >:(

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Sounds like the gf needs a fair amount of reassurance. Give it to her. What have you got to lose?

 

Mom is crossing a big line however. You should let her know plain and clear that you are more concerned with finding someone compatible with you and your life instead of altering your whole life to make yourself "more acceptible to a broader range of shallow women."

 

Pinball and guns. I like pinball. Used to play it as a kid. I would think it was neat. Not into guns though. Husband recently took up hunting. Not really a fan, (vegetarian, hah!) but that isn't a real dealbreaker for me. Probably wouldn't be for plenty of women.

 

Tell your Mom point-blank that she isn't helping when she says things like that and that the best thing for you is to be happy with you. Enforce it. Or just let it slide and realize the intent and nuttiness of it.

 

I will never be "good enough" for my parents either (my auto-correct said "partners" hmm...) but then I realized that they put very little into me and expect the world out of me. Especially when it comes to my success in life etc. Well, quite frankly, they are both crazy. Really crazy. And I don't want to fill other's crazy expectations anymore. They aren't helpful. They are a mind-****. If I want my mind ****ed, I'll start taking drugs. At least then it would be fun for awhile.

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I have just read through all your threads (in astonishment). Everything your mother says about you is completely true. I can tell you what your biggest problem is. You are a coward. You blame everyone else for your predicament. Your ex, your mother, me probably, eventually your new girl, all of Loveshack, your boss etc etc. It will always be everyone else's fault in your life Superchiefs. That is what cowards do. The blame everyone else around them and do nothing to change their predicament. In my eyes you are lazy. Me, me, me kind of guy. I'm happy with my guns and pin ball machine, so screw my mother. What woman wants to be with a man, who doesn't want to better himself? Who is happy being average Joe..A woman wants two things..1) A man to provide emotional security 2) a man to provide financial security (that doesn't mean he has to be rich. It means he has to be a good provider, put his family before himself. Be the best he can be). You are capable of neither right now. You are too messed up to see that.

 

If you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you are worth but you got to be willing to take the hits, that life throws at you along the way and stop making excuses! The problem is your setting your worth very low.What's worse is you don't even see anything wrong with this!

 

Your current girlfriend is going to leave you. I couldn't be more sure of that fact. She is as messed up as you, that is why she has stayed so long, BUT eventually she will have her eyes opened and see the kind of man she could end up with. It will dawn her you can't provide her with the emotional/financial security that she needs. It's not even what she needs, she is looking beyond that to kids (that is the key). It's just a matter of when she figures all this out. That behind the surface, there is no foundation. It's like me being a parent and partying every night of the week and saying "screw my spouse and kids. I don't care if it is expensive or I don't see them much, I like what I'm doing so I am going to keep doing it". Do you not see how selfish that attitude is? You are a house of cards, with no depth or foundation to you. Look at the way you talk. "I have a pin ball machine and guns" and "I tell my mom go to hell". Why don't you sell those guns and machines and pay for some counselling (which you BADLY need)? I know you won't. That would be making the right decision and you haven't made a right decision in a long time. You will just call me an ********* and proceed 'not' to live your life content being average Joe. Content ignorning the people that Love you, spending so much time worrying about your current girl leaving, until she actually leaves. One day you wake up and you wonder where did it all go?

 

The thing is I know you have a good heart and that is what is so frustrating. Seeing a life going to waste and not being able to do a thing about it. You will ask for advice all your life and never take it. I have read many replies to your threads and you either ignore the advice or fail to comprehend what is being said to you. Until you stop being a coward, stop blaming others, demand more of yourself you will never amount to anything. Not only that you will lose everything that is close and dear to you..

 

I don't know what family life you had or what happened in your childhood, but there is something messing here that I can't put my finger on. You talk in a strange way, you behave even stranger (laughing with your new girl at your old ex. I mean wtf is that!). The fact you can't see what is wrong with you and therefore refuse to do anything about it is very concerning to me. If you want to turn your life around do the following...

 

1) Listen you your mother and do what she asks of you..

2) Go to therapy and if you are already in Therapy then change therapists..

3) Talk to your girl. Explain you are going to make positive changes in your life and ask her to please stand by you while you go about this. Right a list of things you want to achieve in your life and put in the building blocks in place so that you can go and achieve these things..

4) Read self help books. Your therapist will be able to direct you to which one's you need..

5) Sell you pinball machine and guns. Yeah its tough but you are showing people you mean business. That you are putting their needs above yours. When you turn yourself into the man you want to be then by all means buy news one's or preferably pick up more social hobbies where you interact with people. I get the impression (and I could be wrong) you don't have many friends..

 

Right now it's clear as day you are looking to other people to make you happy. You did it with your ex, then replaced her with this new girl. Until you find peace and happiness within yourself then no relationship you are in will last a long time. Your mother see's this and is trying to help you. You are repelling her because seemingly you don't want to be helped. You will just blame others and until one day life hits you very hard in the face. You still have a chance to avoid the train crash that's coming. I doubt you will. You don't want to open your eyes, look inward and accept the truth. Living in limbo and avoiding dealing with these things is a lot easier.

I hope you prove me wrong..

 

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Im glad people are really really listening, there are several things in this quote that made me smile inside(I underlined those things). Everything in this post is on the money and can apply to almost everyone that posts here.

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awh man! one persons says hes screwed up and i can shrug it off as trolling, but two? now I'm gonna spend the next few hours scrolling through a bunch of posts that are unproductive and most likely have 0 entertainment value.

 

I was gonna watch porn!

 

I hope you're happy people >:(

 

Dammit. I need to see what these folks are yapping on about too.

 

Well I was probably going to write something anti-porn on another thread. So at least we cancelled each other out!:D

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The only thing I disagree with is do what his mom asks. Shes not saying do these things, she wants him to take control of his life. He can keep everything in it, but be more focused on LIVING, instead of settling and being content. If you would stop telling her to goto hell, and listen and understand she cares for you and wants you to be the best you possible. Right now you are not it.

 

Everyone that posts here has this one problem. No one listens. You blame everyone but yourself. Moms are moms. They are supportive no matter what. Everyone is focused on the words instead of their actions. Just like with your girlfriends or boyfriends. You are focused on their words, instead of their actions. His last post here was somethjing along the lines of his girlfriend would say ok have sex with me I will just lay here. That made me cringe. She was done then, emotionally disconnected, but you didnt see it because you weren't paying attention to her actions, only her words

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Super, I'm not going to comment on your issues with your current girlfriend as I was appalled by the way you both handled yourselves when dealing with your ex. Your last post I believe was spending all 10K of savings on your girlfriend within a span of a few months.

 

That in itself is why your mother has concern for the way you carry yourself. I don't blame her because you clearly show a lack of maturity in handling yourself financially and emotionally.

 

She's not on your case because she finds it amusing or entertaining. While we see little specs of your nature, she sees it all. If my son blew all his savings in months, in hopes of maintaining a woman's interest and who knows what else goes on behind closed doors, I would be concerned about his well being and where he's headed. Be grateful that she cares and she sees you through a sound and realistic mind because you certainly are not able to do so.

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My mom constantly reminds me that my fiancee broke up with me last year and that it was probably because I didnt make enough money and I had way too much stuff.
She's aware that your ex-fiance cheated on you, or at least had an inappropriate and hidden relationship with a married co-worker while you were engaged, right? Mom's not a spring chicken; she's been around the block and knows how women can be and are.

 

I have told my mom to go to hell multiple times, but she just keeps on bringing these things up. She literally cries on the phone and tells me how she is just trying to help me.
I hope you don't mean literally. That's not how a loving son speaks to his mother, especially a man of your faith. You are a man. Disagree and assert your independence, but always in a loving tone.

 

I currently work for a bank and I make $33k a year. I am perfectly happy doing what I do and I have no problem paying my bills.
I noted, in a past thread, that you had spent down some savings during this LTR on doing things with your girlfriend. Have you reconsidered your budget and adjusted?

 

my girlfriend has started telling me she loves me multiple times. We can have a 15 minute conversation, and she will tell me she loves me at least 3 times or more. Is this a sign of trouble?
If it's outside of her usual behavior, it's a change. Unknown if it's trouble. As a point of reference, what behaviors did you note in your past fiance when she was cheating on you? Sometimes commonalities can be found. IIRC, this lady is a woman of faith as you are so her expressions may have roots in her faith that things are going to work out with you, but perhaps she is troubled. Only way to know is to honestly communicate.

 

Are the plans for an Easter engagement still firm? Any talk of pre-cana or PMC? How do your families get along? Lots of canaries to watch.

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Sorry to shift gears but curious.. what pinball machine do you have? I'm love pinball.. used to own an Attack From Mars machine :)

 

I'm not so sure your gf telling you she loves you all the time is an issue? Maybe she's just really affectionate?

 

 

I have a teenage mutant ninja turtles machine from 1991. When I bought it, it had a few problems, but I ordered the parts off the internet and fixed it myself. It is a lot of fun.

 

I agree that my gf telling me she loves me all the time might not be an issue. It could be that she tells everyone she loves them and she just tells me it a lot because she wants me to know that she loves me more.

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Super, I'm not going to comment on your issues with your current girlfriend as I was appalled by the way you both handled yourselves when dealing with your ex. Your last post I believe was spending all 10K of savings on your girlfriend within a span of a few months.

 

That in itself is why your mother has concern for the way you carry yourself. I don't blame her because you clearly show a lack of maturity in handling yourself financially and emotionally.

 

She's not on your case because she finds it amusing or entertaining. While we see little specs of your nature, she sees it all. If my son blew all his savings in months, in hopes of maintaining a woman's interest and who knows what else goes on behind closed doors, I would be concerned about his well being and where he's headed. Be grateful that she cares and she sees you through a sound and realistic mind because you certainly are not able to do so.

 

Yes, I did blow through my savings on some vacations. However, I have started building my savings back up by flipping a few items. As a hobby, I buy things at local auctions and I resell them on ebay. My mother has no idea how much money I have in the bank. She just knows that I dont make a ton of money because she brings up things like "Why dont you buy yourself a new car" and I usually respond by saying I cant afford a new car and both of my old cars are running just fine.

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She's aware that your ex-fiance cheated on you, or at least had an inappropriate and hidden relationship with a married co-worker while you were engaged, right? Mom's not a spring chicken; she's been around the block and knows how women can be and are.

 

I hope you don't mean literally. That's not how a loving son speaks to his mother, especially a man of your faith. You are a man. Disagree and assert your independence, but always in a loving tone.

 

I noted, in a past thread, that you had spent down some savings during this LTR on doing things with your girlfriend. Have you reconsidered your budget and adjusted?

 

If it's outside of her usual behavior, it's a change. Unknown if it's trouble. As a point of reference, what behaviors did you note in your past fiance when she was cheating on you? Sometimes commonalities can be found. IIRC, this lady is a woman of faith as you are so her expressions may have roots in her faith that things are going to work out with you, but perhaps she is troubled. Only way to know is to honestly communicate.

 

Are the plans for an Easter engagement still firm? Any talk of pre-cana or PMC? How do your families get along? Lots of canaries to watch.

 

Carhill, you are correct, my mother is aware that my ex-fiancee did meet someone else. However, my mother also keeps saying that she never did like my ex-fiancee because she always seemed really moody. She said she kept her opinion to herself because she thought, "if that girl makes him happy, then so be it". However, since things didnt work out with that girl, my mom has started trying to run my life.

 

No, I havent literally told my mom to go to hell. I have told her to worry about herself though and I have told her that if she doesnt stop, I will hang up the phone on her and I have even hung up on her when she has not stopped at times.

 

Yes, I drained my savings going on vacations with my current girlfriend. I have told my current girlfriend that I am not going to be able to go on any more vacations for a while because of finances. She said she understands. I have already begun rebuilding my savings.

 

As for behaviors with the girl that cheated on me, I didnt notice too many changes in her. She went on bike rides with a coworker, I trusted her, so I didnt think anything of it. Little did I know that there was more going on than just riding bikes together. She got what she deserved in the end though because he ended cheating on her with several other women and now she is with one of those women's ex husbands.

 

No, the plans for an Easter engagement are not in place. I do not think an Easter engagement would be good for me because Easter is when my fiancee broke things off with me. However, I definitely am interested in spending the rest of my life with my current girlfriend. We have had a blast together and I love spending time with her. Also, our families get along great. In December, I moved to a new place. Her parents and my parents both helped and they seemed to really get along well.

 

Thank you for the helpful response.

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So, first of all...my girlfriend has started telling me she loves me multiple times. We can have a 15 minute conversation, and she will tell me she loves me at least 3 times or more. Is this a sign of trouble?

 

In my experience, yes. It sounds like she needs frequent reassurance that you care about her. What's going to happen when things inevitably get hard and you can't always give her that reassurance? She's going to start looking elsewhere.

 

Second, my mother keeps trying to control me, by telling me that my girlfriend is going to break up with me unless I make changes in my life, such as getting a better job and getting rid of a lot of my stuff, such as my pinball machine and my guns. My mom constantly reminds me that my fiancee broke up with me last year and that it was probably because I didnt make enough money and I had way too much stuff. I have told my mom to go to hell multiple times, but she just keeps on bringing these things up. She literally cries on the phone and tells me how she is just trying to help me. I currently work for a bank and I make $33k a year. I am perfectly happy doing what I do and I have no problem paying my bills. I enjoy playing my pinball machine and I enjoy taking my guns to a gun club and shooting them. Those are excellent stress reliefs for me.

 

Please give me some advice.

 

Your mom just wants the best for you and doesn't want you to get hurt like your last relationship, She's just trying to help in the best way she knows how. There are quite a few instances of mothers overstepping their boundaries, but I don't see this as one. Even if you don't see eye to eye with her on this, I would at least give her a heartfelt apology.

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So, first of all...my girlfriend has started telling me she loves me multiple times. We can have a 15 minute conversation, and she will tell me she loves me at least 3 times or more. Is this a sign of trouble?

 

Second, my mother keeps trying to control me, by telling me that my girlfriend is going to break up with me unless I make changes in my life, such as getting a better job and getting rid of a lot of my stuff, such as my pinball machine and my guns. My mom constantly reminds me that my fiancee broke up with me last year and that it was probably because I didnt make enough money and I had way too much stuff. I have told my mom to go to hell multiple times, but she just keeps on bringing these things up. She literally cries on the phone and tells me how she is just trying to help me. I currently work for a bank and I make $33k a year. I am perfectly happy doing what I do and I have no problem paying my bills. I enjoy playing my pinball machine and I enjoy taking my guns to a gun club and shooting them. Those are excellent stress reliefs for me.

 

Please give me some advice.

 

Dude,

 

What's "way too much stuff" ?? A pinball machine and some guns? There must be much more than that in the way for your mother to keep bringing this up. Clutter much? Stuff all over the floor? Are you a slob or something? :rolleyes:

 

If not, are you a grown up? Just nicely tell your mother that she did a good job raising you and you feel equipped to handle your physical surroundings. If your values differ, then make it a point to tell her that you don't mind her advice, as long as she doesn't mind that you don't take it. :laugh:

 

And why are you posting in the Breakups Forum, anyhow? Seems to me you should be posting in the "Self Improvement" Forum. :rolleyes: Eh, well, GL. If you're happy, then who are we to tell you you're not?

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Dude,

 

What's "way too much stuff" ?? A pinball machine and some guns? There must be much more than that in the way for your mother to keep bringing this up. Clutter much? Stuff all over the floor? Are you a slob or something? :rolleyes:

 

If not, are you a grown up? Just nicely tell your mother that she did a good job raising you and you feel equipped to handle your physical surroundings. If your values differ, then make it a point to tell her that you don't mind her advice, as long as she doesn't mind that you don't take it. :laugh:

 

And why are you posting in the Breakups Forum, anyhow? Seems to me you should be posting in the "Self Improvement" Forum. :rolleyes: Eh, well, GL. If you're happy, then who are we to tell you you're not?

 

Basically, I have a spare bedroom and a walk in closet full of stuff. However, I keep the rest of my home nice and clean...which includes my kitchen, living room and bedroom. For other stuff, I have a ton of baseball cards and video games, among other random items that I enjoy looking at or playing with.

 

Thanks Grace for the advice for dealing with my mother.

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I LOL at a guy's 'stuff' being scrutinized after building a closet just for exW's 'shoes' :D

 

OP, back to the 'I love you' stuff. Do her actions support those words, and consistently? Do you feel she has your back or is she, as an example, starting to sound like your mother? ;)

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So for those of you naysayers, that do not believe in GIGS or Burnout (as I like to call it). Its right here right in front of you. Everything. He's a classic example, he's stage 3.

 

He has no self awareness.

Going through life on autopilot, doesnt really care

Quickly jumping relationships and getting engaged (which isnt working out, it never does)

Avoids conflict (If something we post doesnt agree with him, he moves on to the next thing)

His gf is screaming at him to pay attention and he just cant. She distanced and came back, shes soon going to leave.

He's depressed, he's settled.

He's still hung up on his fiance.

Resentful towards mom, no true friend to talk to, thats why he posts here.

 

 

This is GIGS, read his old posts if you want an understanding of it

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I LOL at a guy's 'stuff' being scrutinized after building a closet just for exW's 'shoes' :D

 

OP, back to the 'I love you' stuff. Do her actions support those words, and consistently? Do you feel she has your back or is she, as an example, starting to sound like your mother? ;)

 

No, my girlfriend actually likes my stuff and she even enjoys going with me to auctions and buying more stuff. The only thing she said she doesnt like is that sometimes when I come home from an auction, I leave a box full of stuff out in the living room to go through, but once I go through it and get it out of the living room, then she said it doesnt bother her any more. I would say her actions support her words for the most part...the only thing I wonder about is that she talks about herself a lot. Like, she will be talking about herself constantly, and then every once in a while, she will ask me a question, but once I answer her question, it usually leads back in to something about her. From what I know about women though, all of them enjoy talking about themselves.

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So for those of you naysayers, that do not believe in GIGS or Burnout (as I like to call it). Its right here right in front of you. Everything. He's a classic example, he's stage 3.

 

He has no self awareness.

Going through life on autopilot, doesnt really care

Quickly jumping relationships and getting engaged (which isnt working out, it never does)

Avoids conflict (If something we post doesnt agree with him, he moves on to the next thing)

His gf is screaming at him to pay attention and he just cant. She distanced and came back, shes soon going to leave.

He's depressed, he's settled.

He's still hung up on his fiance.

Resentful towards mom, no true friend to talk to, thats why he posts here.

 

 

This is GIGS, read his old posts if you want an understanding of it

 

Self Awareness of what?

I am going through life and enjoying it.

I would hardly say I am jumping relationships. I was with my fiancee for 6 years. I have been with my current girlfriend since June. I have only been engaged once.

I dont avoid conflict.

When did my girlfriend distance herself and come back? As far as I know, we havent broken up since we first got together last June.

I dont feel depressed, but if by settled, you mean I am content with life, then yes, I am settled.

I dont spend any time thinking about my ex-fiancee

I am angry at my mom because I feel like she is trying to manipulate me in to being somebody that I am not. I talk to my friends about this stuff, but I feel like it also helps to get outsider's point of view.

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Its just my interpretation of your past and present events based on my experience. Who knows I could be absolutely wrong.

 

Only the future will tell

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