Sugarkane Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Lately I've read cases of several women being with MUCH older guys. I mean like women in their 30s being with guys in their 60s. I read something about a woman who had a kid with someone this old. And then she was complaining about the guy having no energy to raise the kid! Why would a guy want to have kids in his 60s for? Don't some people want a retirement? E.g also Alexander Skarsgard's father having another kid in his 60s.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Heck if I know SugarKane. While men in their 60s have the possibility to still have children, by 60, a man's sperms is pretty damaged. Men start a decline in fertility in their 30s. I don't think our society talks enough about male fertility issues and health. A month ago I was grocery shopping and this nice older man (had to be in his 60s) was chatting me up. I had seen him in there before. And I was thinking "awww he's sweet, he's like my grandpa". Next thing I know he's asking me if I have a boyfriend and I was so stunned I had to pause for a minute and just said that I did infact have a boyfriend even though I don't. He was all like "well that's too bad." Like I was going to actually go out on a date with someone his age! Sheesh.
carhill Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 I guess it depends. Clint Eastwood was 66 when he married his second wife, Dina Ruiz, who was 31 at the time. They had a daughter almost exactly nine months later
Dust Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Women like older men OP. Some young girls were just talking about how hot they find Hugh Laurie. The man is in his 50's. Those stupid Dos Equis comercials use a man in his 70's as a sex sybol to sell their product labeling him the most interesting man in the world... Yeah the list goes on. A lot of Heck if I know SugarKane. While men in their 60s have the possibility to still have children, by 60, a man's sperms is pretty damaged. Men start a decline in fertility in their 30s. I don't think our society talks enough about male fertility issues and health. A month ago I was grocery shopping and this nice older man (had to be in his 60s) was chatting me up. I had seen him in there before. And I was thinking "awww he's sweet, he's like my grandpa". Next thing I know he's asking me if I have a boyfriend and I was so stunned I had to pause for a minute and just said that I did infact have a boyfriend even though I don't. He was all like "well that's too bad." Like I was going to actually go out on a date with someone his age! Sheesh. How old are you again haha!
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Women like older men OP. Some young girls were just talking about how hot they find Hugh Laurie. The man is in his 50's. Those stupid Dos Equis comercials use a man in his 70's as a sex sybol to sell their product labeling him the most interesting man in the world... Yeah the list goes on. Yes, lets all of us now start taking commercials like Dos Equis as a good commentary on life. Because we all know in the real world that most 70 year old men are "studs" and "sexy symbols" and that 25 year old women are eager to sit with them in skin tight dresses in swank clubs. The only thing commericals like Dos Equis tell us is that there is a hugely disportionate ideal about a man's worth for his age over a woman's that is ridiculously portrayed in the media. And that doesn't have anything to do with "facts" or "biology" so much as it does with who runs the media industry. Simply, it's men. It's the ad excutives and producers that are mostly compromised of men making the choices about what we see. And since our society is largely built on a patrarchial system, these ideas have been around for longer then we know. It was an effective ploy to overstate the worth of older men in society so that older men could compete with their younger more robust and healthy counerparts for resources and companionship. But it has nothing to do with any reality that older men are "better". It's simply the fact that our society was built on overstating male power and men wanting to believe their worth was much more then that of women's. There were 16 year old girls posting about Hugh Laurie? I remember one woman saying she liked Hugh Laurie. Not really a troop of "young girls" saying it. I actually find him distasteful. How old are you again haha! Alright Dust. How about manning up a little here and instead of hiding behind a mocking "how old are you again haha" comment, why don't you tell me what my age has to do with my opinion on this topic or why you would even utter this comment to me and think it makes you sound good.
KathyM Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 When these old guys end up marrying younger women, they buy into the parenting job, in order to please their younger wives who want children, although the men don't have the energy to raise them, and may not even live to see those kids to adulthood. That's one big reason why people should stay in their own age range with the person they choose to marry, because being in the same stage of life as your partner is very important in raising children, and in helping each other through all the life stages. A young mother of small children who is working an outside job isn't going to have the time to enjoy retirement with her husband, or to take care of him when he is having health issues. Just like an older guy who is retired is going to want to have his wife there to enjoy it with him, not be running around with jobs and kids. It takes a heck of a lot of energy to take care of children and raise children--something these older dudes don't seem to consider when they're chasing after these younger women.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Heck if I know SugarKane. While men in their 60s have the possibility to still have children, by 60, a man's sperms is pretty damaged. Men start a decline in fertility in their 30s. I don't think our society talks enough about male fertility issues and health. I agree. There's too much focus on women and aging, and not enough on how it affects men in relation to things like this. A month ago I was grocery shopping and this nice older man (had to be in his 60s) was chatting me up. I had seen him in there before. And I was thinking "awww he's sweet, he's like my grandpa". Next thing I know he's asking me if I have a boyfriend and I was so stunned I had to pause for a minute and just said that I did infact have a boyfriend even though I don't. He was all like "well that's too bad." Like I was going to actually go out on a date with someone his age! Sheesh. My sister is engaged to a man twenty-three years older than her, and she fell in love with him years ago. I guess they fit together, personality-wise (most of the time). I have no interest in men that much older than me, though. I want someone around my own age.
betterdeal Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Maybe the like them, that's why they want to be with them. I remember having a fling when I was 28 with a 43 year old woman and the sex was FANTASTIC. Best blow jobs I've had (so far).
Dust Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Yes, lets all of us now start taking commercials like Dos Equis as a good commentary on life. Because we all know in the real world that most 70 year old men are "studs" and "sexy symbols" and that 25 year old women are eager to sit with them in skin tight dresses in swank clubs. The only thing commericals like Dos Equis tell us is that there is a hugely disportionate ideal about a man's worth for his age over a woman's that is ridiculously portrayed in the media. And that doesn't have anything to do with "facts" or "biology" so much as it does with who runs the media industry. Simply, it's men. It's the ad excutives and producers that are mostly compromised of men making the choices about what we see. And since our society is largely built on a patrarchial system, these ideas have been around for longer then we know. It was an effective ploy to overstate the worth of older men in society so that older men could compete with their younger more robust and healthy counerparts for resources and companionship. But it has nothing to do with any reality that older men are "better". It's simply the fact that our society was built on overstating male power and men wanting to believe their worth was much more then that of women's. Oh geez... are you angry about something? There were 16 year old girls posting about Hugh Laurie? I remember one woman saying she liked Hugh Laurie. Not really a troop of "young girls" saying it. I actually find him distasteful. Did I say 16? Alright Dust. How about manning up a little here and instead of hiding behind a mocking "how old are you again haha" comment' date=' why don't you tell me what my age has to do with my opinion on this topic or why you would even utter this comment to me and think it makes you sound good. [/quote'] You're the one who told the story about an older man hitting on you at the Grocery store and being disgusted. It would help to know how old you are to put that in context. haha you're silly. Now tell me how old you are!
Author Sugarkane Posted January 21, 2012 Author Posted January 21, 2012 Yeah so reading this true life story about this woman complaining. I was like thinking., well what did you expect?
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Yeah so reading this true life story about this woman complaining. I was like thinking., well what did you expect? I wouldn't expect one of my father's friends to hit on me, and I'd be thinking the same thing about any other man his age. I'm 36, and didn't appreciate men over fifty ignoring my age limit (or even over a younger age than that) on a dating, and assuming I'd fall head over heels for them, especially when they're ignoring women their own age. You don't see me messaging men who have their age limit set to something like 30. Seeing that on a profile makes me feel a little old, but if I have to deal with it, then so can they.
betterdeal Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Half your age, plus seven. That's the rule.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 My sister is engaged to a man twenty-three years older than her, and she fell in love with him years ago. I guess they fit together, personality-wise (most of the time). I have no interest in men that much older than me, though. I want someone around my own age. I do too Anela. I did date older men and it taught me something important. Mainly that I connect differently to men around my age vs older men. And that the connectoin with men my own age was much more gratifying. My mom married my dad who was 15 years older then her. She said when they met she didn't know that he was that much older then her. But she has told me that she hopes i find a man that is closer to my age then not. Because while she loved my dad, they had a lot of struggles because of the age difference. As they got older, my dad seemed to age faster then her. She wanted to do things and he was just more tired. Understandably so. He passed away two years ago.
Dust Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 I wouldn't expect one of my father's friends to hit on me, and I'd be thinking the same thing about any other man his age. I'm 36, and didn't appreciate men over fifty ignoring my age limit (or even over a younger age than that) on a dating, and assuming I'd fall head over heels for them, especially when they're ignoring women their own age. You don't see me messaging men who have their age limit set to something like 30. Seeing that on a profile makes me feel a little old, but if I have to deal with it, then so can they. When I'm over fifty I'll hit on 20 year olds if the mood strikes me. That is if I'm single... I've had old ladies get flirty with me I'm 27. I realize its not the same as when a man hits on you but still you can tell these 60/70 are hot to trot when they say the "if I was younger" line. Doesn't bother me I take it as a compliment.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Dust Oh geez... are you angry about something? What an articulate response. Did I say 16? You said "young girls". You're the one who told the story about an older man hitting on you at the Grocery store and being disgusted. It would help to know how old you are to put that in context. haha you're silly. Now tell me how old you are! I never said the older man hitting on me was "disgusting". I said that he was more of a grandfather figure to me and that I was stunned he hit on me. I wasn't happy about it either but he wasn't "disgusting". I'll tell you how old I am if at some point you are ever able to provide a better discussion then what your apparently capable of.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 When I'm over fifty I'll hit on 20 year olds if the mood strikes me. That is if I'm single... I've had old ladies get flirty with me I'm 27. I realize its not the same as when a man hits on you but still you can tell these 60/70 are hot to trot when they say the "if I was younger" line. Doesn't bother me I take it as a compliment. I wouldn't even try with you, because you're nine years younger than me. It feels weird to me. I've had college students hit on me, too. Although I know a a 37 year old woman whose fiance is in his early twenties, and they now have a beautiful baby. I'm nice to them, but when I clearly see on a site, that they're ignoring women their own age, it angers me.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Half your age, plus seven. That's the rule. Oh, then that puts Dust in the perfect age range. Saddle up, sonny boy. Just kidding.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I do too Anela. I did date older men and it taught me something important. Mainly that I connect differently to men around my age vs older men. And that the connectoin with men my own age was much more gratifying. My mom married my dad who was 15 years older then her. She said when they met she didn't know that he was that much older then her. But she has told me that she hopes i find a man that is closer to my age then not. Because while she loved my dad, they had a lot of struggles because of the age difference. As they got older, my dad seemed to age faster then her. She wanted to do things and he was just more tired. Understandably so. He passed away two years ago. I'm really sorry to hear about your father passing away. I can't bear the thought of losing either of my parents. <3 My parents are afraid that my sister's fiance has held her back - and if I posted a picture of them here, then the guys who believe that women only ever want looks and money (beautiful women), would get themselves showered and out there right away, talking to lovely ladies, because he's not only so much older, but in my father's words: "A raggedy son of a *****". She wanted to do all sorts of things before she fell in love with him, and whilst she hasn't had all ambition squashed out of her, I also think he's held her back. He also had the gall to make a pass at me, more than once, only to come to his senses and realize that I was not interested, I now hated his guts, and that he was losing the better one of the two of us. I agree with your mother: I want someone in the same stage of life as I am (or close to it) - not someone who has been there, done that, and is trying to do that all over again with me, ignoring beautiful, loving women their own age. My sister's fiance - they met over the internet - didn't start to come onto her until he'd seen her pretty, pretty picture (when she was twenty-years-old). He then started in with the poetry. My dad calls him a pedophile, when my sister isn't around. He doesn't like him due to the way he's treated her, and me - causing trouble between the two of us - but he wasn't a fan at first, because he was too close to my parents' age. *edit. that sounds like I'm putting down your father, and I'm not - not at all! <3 If it happens, it happens. Edited January 21, 2012 by Anela
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Anela I'm really sorry to hear about your father passing away. I can't bear the thought of losing either of my parents. Thanks Anela. It was without a doubt the hardest thing I had to go through but believe it or not, you do get through it. I always try to feel grateful for the time I did have with him. I have a friend that lost her husband at 37 and she has two young children. They won't really know their father at all. At least I had mine for a good chunk of time. She wanted to do all sorts of things before she fell in love with him, and whilst she hasn't had all ambition squashed out of her, I also think he's held her back. He also had the gall to make a pass at me, more than once, only to come to his senses and realize that I was not interested, I now hated his guts, and that he was losing the better one of the two of us he better be careful because she will end up resenting him for that the older she gets. Oh that is so frustrating! Being hit on by your own sister's man. What in the name would he even think that was a good idea. My best friend dated a man like that who had hit on me or who would make sceevy sexual comments. She did end up breaking it off with him finally after other stuff went down. I agree with your mother: I want someone in the same stage of life as I am (or close to it) - not someone who has been there, done that, and is trying to do that all over again with me, ignoring beautiful, loving women their own age. I'm so with you!
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 When I'm over fifty I'll hit on 20 year olds if the mood strikes me. That is if I'm single... I've had old ladies get flirty with me I'm 27. I realize its not the same as when a man hits on you but still you can tell these 60/70 are hot to trot when they say the "if I was younger" line. Doesn't bother me I take it as a compliment. Since you're such an advocate, maybe you should also date the older women in your area. Or is it only gross when it's older women/younger men?
kaylan Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 Women like older men OP. Some young girls were just talking about how hot they find Hugh Laurie. The man is in his 50's. Those stupid Dos Equis comercials use a man in his 70's as a sex sybol to sell their product labeling him the most interesting man in the world... Yeah the list goes on. A lot of How old are you again haha! The women who date geezers just like the cash. In general women like guys around their age though, as evidenced in average age differences of couples. Saying an older celebrity is hot doesnt change this. Selma Hayek is hot and over 40, but it doesnt mean most young guys want older women. And the Dos Equis commercial arent portraying the guy as a sex symbol, hes being portrayed as a dude who always lived life to the fullest and is extraordinary.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 The women who date geezers just like the cash. In general women like guys around their age though, as evidenced in average age differences of couples. Saying an older celebrity is hot doesnt change this. Selma Hayek is hot and over 40, but it doesnt mean most young guys want older women. And the Dos Equis commercial arent portraying the guy as a sex symbol, hes being portrayed as a dude who always lived life to the fullest and is extraordinary. My sister's fiance is on disability, and lives in a craphole of an apartment. She's either in love, or too scared to leave him, due to (unfounded) fears of not being able to find anyone else.
Woggle Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 If both people are happy don't judge them. The same goes for younger man and older woman. Let consenting adults do what they want. Even from the time I was a teenager I liked hanging out with an older crowd because for the most part I related better to them.
Anela Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 If both people are happy don't judge them. The same goes for younger man and older woman. Let consenting adults do what they want. Even from the time I was a teenager I liked hanging out with an older crowd because for the most part I related better to them. I don't, if they're happy. I was making an omelet, and thinking about any older women/younger men pairings that I could think of. That's one thing I like about you, Woggle: you didn't discount an older woman, but going by a lot of men, you'd think there was something wrong with that (but not older men/younger women). It's just another double standard, most of the time. I wonder how many men are all for the older man/younger woman pairing, would go for an older woman; how much older, and for a fling or a real relationship? I only judge my sister's fiance based on how he treated my sister, and myself. He caused huge arguments in my family, made me very uncomfortable, and tried to make me the other woman - other than when he declared his undying love for me, telling my mother that he had always been in love with me, not my sister (he's the only man she's ever loved, and slept with). I could have hurt him, badly.
soserious1 Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I married an age peer, a man 3 yrs my senior. We are divorced now, after supporting him during the marriage I now pay him $2,750 per month in alimony plus add on's. He's living with a woman 22 years younger than I am, he tells me that the secret to is that when he gets ready to have sex, all he needs to do is to think of the fact that he's getting to use my money to support this luscious babe & he gets rock hard and has a stamina that blows his lover away. Oh well, at least 2 people are gloriously happy with this older man, younger woman pairing. Edited January 21, 2012 by soserious1
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