Author misssmartypants Posted January 24, 2012 Author Posted January 24, 2012 I want to return to this thread after being out and about and just noticing women around me. Is the average woman of today fat? Everywhere around me I just see fat women, and many are with men who thinner than they are. Thankfully most young women I see aren't obese, so there must be a certain age where women just balloon. But why does this happen? Browsing around the web I found this article. The top of article asks, "Alice is beautiful, confident and the average size of a woman in Britain today... so why does she still feel fat?" And a quick glance at her picture gives the answer. Because she is. Now does that mean, that women who are not overweight, are now considered above average and thus expect to only date the above average men, who actually make an effort to look good? Then that means if a guy is not above average, his only choice is now the average obese woman? You like to talk about how imperfect you are. In your own description you are short, and your face isn't attractive. Your social skills are subpar. So why are you entitled to a beautiful, charming, woman with no real flaws? I'm not saying you don't have a right to find what ever you find attractive, to be attractive. I'm just wondering why you get to riducule those women who don't meet your standard of beauty while complaining that the women you DO like don't respond?
somedude81 Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I didn't chose to be short or how good looking I am. Though I know I'm not unattractive. I try to eat healthy, stay active and I workout. Yes my social skill aren't the best but it is something I'm working on. Frankly, I really don't think they are as bad as I make them out to be here. Underestimating myself is something I'm fairly good at. IMO, the only real flaws I have are my height and the low self confidence that was caused by my lack of success. Am I entitled to a "beautiful, charming, woman with no real flaws?" Of course not, because she does not exist. Everybody has some flaws. Do I feel that I am entitled to a woman who is not overweight? Yes. If I was a fat slobby guy with a neck-beard, no education and a dead-end job, my answer would be different. Now please tell me where I am ridiculing women. The woman that the article is about is obviously overweight. She's 5'9 and 210 lbs. Even If she was a man she'd be considered obese unless the weight was all muscle. Lastly, what does any of that have to do with women I do like, not responding to me?
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Is the average woman of today fat? Everywhere around me I just see fat women, and many are with men who thinner than they are. Thankfully most young women I see aren't obese, so there must be a certain age where women just balloon. But why does this happen? It's the same reason for women as it is for men--they get very comfortable and secure in their lives and let themselves go. Discontent breeds either ambition or desperation, depending upon an individual's attitude. Contentedness breeds sloth. The healthy way to be is to not be content with being overweight, and that's true from every aspect of health--socially, mentally, and physically it's better to be discontent with an unhealthy body. Unfortunately, if you also lack discipline, then you wallow in desperation and struggle with weight. It's sad. Not a lot you can do for someone who won't help themselves--you can show them the door, but it's up to them to walk through it.
xxoo Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 I want to return to this thread after being out and about and just noticing women around me. Is the average woman of today fat? Everywhere around me I just see fat women, and many are with men who thinner than they are. Thankfully most young women I see aren't obese, so there must be a certain age where women just balloon. But why does this happen? Conveniently, there are stats to be referenced, as Enigmatic linked earlier in the thread: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/ad/ad347.pdf Page 8, table 6, shows that from 1999-2002, the mean weight of US women aged 20-29 was 156.5 pounds. Those numbers are a decade old, but look at the trend (has gone up every decade since 1960). The average 20-29 yo is NOT thin. Look also at the average weight for women in their 50s. There is a gain of 15-20 pounds on average--hardly "ballooning". Then that means if a guy is not above average, his only choice is now the average obese woman? Most women fall between "thin" and "obese". Most men desire thin women. Women between the age of 20-25 are desired by men aged 17-45+. A thin woman, between the ages of 20-25, with long hair, is in relatively short supply and high demand. Yes, you may see hundreds walking campus every day, but they are desired by thousands of men of all shapes, sizes, and ages. Supply and demand.
Lonely Ronin Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 Small rant, Most of these stats are useless garbage, as they don't take enough factors into consideration. About the best you can do, without going to a lab and having some serious tests run, is use a BMI calculator like this one. http://home.fuse.net/clymer/bmi/ It will at least get you in the ballpark, but even it has serious flaws if your muscular, or have a large or small frame. The best way to tell if someone is 'fat', is with a hydrostatic body fat test, but finding a place to get one is kind of difficult.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 The best way to tell if someone is 'fat', is with a hydrostatic body fat test, but finding a place to get one is kind of difficult. What about all the scales on the market that measure body fat by sending an electrical impulse up one leg, measuring it as it comes out the other leg, and running it through a formula that was developed by measuring how electricity passes through the human body with differing amounts of fat? I've heard for years that's by far the best way to measure where you're at. Not only does it ignore the imprecision in the BMI chart for different body types, it ignores the imprecision in weight due to excess stool (i.e. you're backed up this week more than last) and water retention, which can cause you to normally vary up or down by as much as five to ten pounds. I still haven't used these scales, but I keep hearing they're more accurate for determining whether you're carrying a healthy amount of fat.
KathyM Posted January 24, 2012 Posted January 24, 2012 It's a fallacy that only older women are "letting themselves go". This country has a huge obesity epedemic among our youth as well. I don't need surveys and statistics to know that is true, although I've read plenty of them. All I need to do is go out in public. I actually made notice of what I saw the other day when out doing errands after these types of threads have been cropping up. On just one short trip out, of all the women I saw on that trip, 3 were obese, one was quite chubby, and two were slender. Of the two that were slender, they were both with men. Both men were taller than average in height, good looking and slender. I don't need surveys and statistics to know what I can see with my own eyes.
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