Is it best for Average people to Date Average people and give up their dreams?

[Ross MwcFan]

Fitchick, can we all see your pic then?

[Ross MwcFan]

Which is very easy for them to say when they don't put their own pictures up Ross. Rise above Ross, rise above

 

Thanks anne, that's the first supportive post I've had.

 

I bet I could sure critique some their pics.

[xxoo]

I don't think there is anything weak about red. It's just that everyone else is saying my facial features look 'weak' and bland.

 

Again, I think that is the lighting and the background color. Anyone's features look bland next to the wrong colors.

 

Look at the photo with the glasses. The coloring flatters your nice blue eyes and hair. You have a strong nose and full lips (very nice!). And I love the bit of facial hair!

[cerridwen]

Which is very easy for them to say when they don't put their own pictures up Ross. Rise above Ross, rise above

 

This...

 

 

Well it ****ing comes across like it, maybe you should learn some more tact.

 

I find it hard to believe that you think there's nothing wrong with telling someone they look terrible, even though they never asked for feedback on how they looked (even if they did, it'd still be wrong).

 

You're either a ****ing troll, or you have no social skills.

 

...and this.

Learn some manners, honey.

 

Ross, please put all these opinions in perspective.

I know they're touching on some of your fears, but people are giving "feedback" based on a few pics.

Take a small sampling of anyone's pics, and the criticism will fly.

All's well.

You're perfectly nice looking.

Not at all fat.

Not at all "weak" but perfectly Ross, which if you ask me, is a handsome look.

Edited January 21, 2012 by cerridwen

[somedude81]

If anything, I think FitChick was pointing out the poor choice of color.

 

Turquoise isn't a very manly color.

 

Look at cerri up there, that's a good manly picture.

[Ross MwcFan]

Again, I think that is the lighting and the background color. Anyone's features look bland next to the wrong colors.

 

Look at the photo with the glasses. The coloring flatters your nice blue eyes and hair. You have a strong nose and full lips (very nice!). And I love the bit of facial hair!

 

Thanks, but for all I know maybe your'e just saying that to make me feel better.

 

I'm still waiting for Fitchicks pic, as I'm sure she looks so perfect.

[Ross MwcFan]

If anything, I think FitChick was pointing out the poor choice of color.

 

Turquoise isn't a very manly color.

 

Look at cerri up there, that's a good manly picture.

 

I'm not wearing Turquoise in any of my pics, but in one of my pics, my T-shirt does have some bold light blue text on it, which doesn't look unmanly, and which I've seen a lot of other guys wear (who get plenty of girls).

[xxoo]

Thanks, but for all I know maybe your'e just saying that to make me feel better.

 

Don't you see how different your features look with a white shirt vs. a darker shirt?

 

I was a slow learner with some of these tricks (wearing the right shades, flatterig poses, etc). But there certainly are tricks to be learned!

 

It doesn't mean that someone who knows all the tricks, and takes flattering pics, is actually better looking than us, though

[Ross MwcFan]

This...

 

 

 

 

...and this.

Learn some manners, honey.

 

Ross, please put all these opinions in perspective.

I know they're touching on some of your fears, but people are giving "feedback" based on a few pics.

Take a small sampling of anyone's pics, and the criticism will fly.

All's well.

You're perfectly nice looking.

Not at all fat.

Not at all "weak" but perfectly Ross, which if you ask me, is a handsome look.

 

Hey Cerri, you're a darling, but according to most other people here I don't look like that.

[Ross MwcFan]

I'm crying right now and my pills have spilt all over the floor.

[betterdeal]

Mate, lots of women all over the world are looking at your picture and figuring out what they would do to make you even more f*ckable. Note how they ignore wolf and others. They're looking at you. And the first sign they fancy you is they want to change you.

 

You're on a roll. Keep on keeping on.

[cerridwen]

I'm crying right now and my pills have spilt all over the floor.

 

Hush.

Let's do this.

It's Friday night in the UK and you're a proper Englishman, likely enjoying a lager or two.

Or I don't know Ross.

Why don't we revisit this all tomorrow when in the light of day, we can separate what are reasonable critiques, and what are insensitive comments.

Right now, they're all blending together.

Tomorrow.

New day.

A good day.

[Dust]

I'm crying right now and my pills have spilt all over the floor.

 

No use crying over spilled milk... I mean pills.

[Anela]

Maybe because Ireland is not part of the UK

 

I grew up in the UK, and I thought that it was. ??

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

 

Northern Ireland is a part of it, as well as England, Scotland and Wales. So much for "United," though; I remember people from all of those countries, coming to England to make money, and hating on our country.

 

Sorry, really off-topic here.

Edited January 21, 2012 by Anela

[Anela]

Most people here consider the violence around Northern Ireland as terrorism too - over 3,500 deaths since 1969 alone.

 

Why did I bring up Ireland? No actually I did not. You did.

 

I consider deaths in both countries to be terrorism, too. the IRA planted bombs in our country - terrorizing people - and did the same thing to their own people.

 

In 1996, there were people over here, raising money for Sinn Fein and the IRA. I was disgusted that some people here (this guy was in New England), were happily raising money for terrorists, and that they were allowed to do so, by the American government.

 

they apparently were responsible for trouble in Scotland, too, but I had to find that out from the author of the Hamish Macbeth books, for goodness sake. the only bitching I heard from Scottish people, was about the English.

 

I'm just checking out your links - that is awful. I'm sorry to hear it's still going on. We never hear about this stuff; I need to start watching the BBC news again.

Edited January 21, 2012 by Anela

[somedude81]

I'm not wearing Turquoise in any of my pics, but in one of my pics, my T-shirt does have some bold light blue text on it, which doesn't look unmanly, and which I've seen a lot of other guys wear (who get plenty of girls).

No, I'm talking about the background. The color of the car behind you. It detracts from your picture.

[EnigmaticClarity]

Why don't we revisit this all tomorrow when in the light of day, we can separate what are reasonable critiques, and what are insensitive comments.

 

Holy crap, I can't believe that went on for five pages. The only reason I felt comfortable even making my original comment is because it wasn't uniquely specific to him--a hairstyle applies to any of us, they're easy to change. I was commenting on what women in general like, it could apply to anyone.

 

Right now, I'm sporting a beard. I strongly feel that MOST women don't like beards. Many do, most don't, although not an overwhelming majority, it's a close split, probably around 60/40 or 70/30. If somebody told me they thought I'd be better off dating without a beard (and I didn't already think that anyway), I'd find it useful.

[betterdeal]

Picking on Gingers is probably the only acceptable form of racism in the UK. It's probably based on the animosity between the Celts and the Anglo-Saxons, infused with animosity between the Catholics and the Protestants, and the Republicans and the Royalists and blah blah blah...

 

...but it's changing, with thanks to American media and it's portrayal of Ginger as desirable. Florence Walsh; Geri Halliwell; Tim Minchin; Bill Bailey; all famous Gingers.

[KathyM]

Holy crap, I can't believe that went on for five pages. The only reason I felt comfortable even making my original comment is because it wasn't uniquely specific to him--a hairstyle applies to any of us, they're easy to change. I was commenting on what women in general like, it could apply to anyone.

 

Right now, I'm sporting a beard. I strongly feel that MOST women don't like beards. Many do, most don't, although not an overwhelming majority, it's a close split, probably around 60/40 or 70/30. If somebody told me they thought I'd be better off dating without a beard (and I didn't already think that anyway), I'd find it useful.

Exactly. I think most people here were just trying to be helpful in suggesting hairstyles that would be attractive on Ross. I think you were just trying to be helpful. Maybe there's a cultural gap going on here. We Americans tend to be open and direct with our comments and suggestions, which might be perceived as criticism by the Brittish folks that may not be so forthcoming. But a few comments were harsh, for sure. I thought I was trying to be helpful in suggesting the haircut I think would look best on Ross. As far as beards, I happen to like facial hair on men. All of my prior bfs and my husband have at least a mushtashe. One had a mushtashe and full beard as well. I think it's kind of sexy on a man. Very masculine, and I enjoy fingering that facial hair a lot.

[betterdeal]

You enjoy fingering and facials?

[KathyM]

You enjoy fingering and facials?

lol. I enjoy being fingered. And I enjoy running my hands through a man's hair, both on his head and on his face. Yummy.

[anne1707]

I grew up in the UK, and I thought that it was. ??

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom

 

Northern Ireland is a part of it, as well as England, Scotland and Wales. So much for "United," though; I remember people from all of those countries, coming to England to make money, and hating on our country.

 

Sorry, really off-topic here.

 

Ireland was the first country mentioned and that is usually what Eire is called and is not part of the UK. Northern Ireland however is a separate country and is part of the UK - hence all the "Troubles"

 

It is absolutely nowhere near as bad as it was but as I said in my very first post in this thread, some people do still hang on to the hatred (on both sides). Sadly people are still dying.

 

I wanted to correct someone who could not see any reason whatsoever why there might be negative attitudes between countries - especially as this was not something that just happened in the last 50 years, the appalling treatment and fighting that went on for much longer (Irish Potato famine in the mid 17th century when Ireland was part of the UK, the Easter uprising in 1916)

[Anela]

Totally off-topic, but this is what I was talking about earlier:

 

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100202082902AAzAqng

 

I was so annoyed; it's bad enough that they were doing that to assist in hurting people of one country, but also scaring and killing people in the very country they were hoping to liberate?

 

Anyway, back to average people, who aren't murdering, sadistic <expletives deleted>.

[betterdeal]

Wasn't the Great Famine in the 1840s?

 

It's not just Ireland, but all the Celtic nations and the English one all having a healthy distrust for one another. More so than politics or history, it's the age-old "otherness" that's behind discrimination against Ginger.

[betterdeal]

How's the Apache nation doing these days?