Is it best for Average people to Date Average people and give up their dreams?

January 16, 2012

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Sometimes I think our grandparents generation had an earthy wisdom that our parents and even our own generation seriously lacks."

Not true. My grandmothers were beautiful too and my mother too.

and my parents and grandparents were poor.

So my father/grandfather etc also went for beauties.

I see many average guys with average or below girls but it's probably cause they are afriad to try with the other girls. and I may end up like that too.

which is fine but

i'm just saying, I want at least a decently attractive girl, who doesn't?

Like she doesn't have to be an 10 but at least a 7. I'm myself a 1 in the male scale ( 1-10).

what's wrong wit that?

January 16, 2012

What do you have to offer? Why should any woman be attracted to a poor, stupid, shallow man who isn't even physically attractive?

January 16, 2012

"
Sometimes I think our grandparents generation had an earthy wisdom that our parents and even our own generation seriously lacks."

Not true. My grandmothers were beautiful too and my mother too.
and my parents and grandparents were poor.

So my father/grandfather etc also went for beauties.

I see many average guys with average or below girls but it's probably cause they are afriad to try with the other girls. and I may end up like that too.
which is fine but

i'm just saying, I want at least a decently attractive girl, who doesn't?
Like she doesn't have to be an 10 but at least a 7. I'm myself a 1 in the male scale ( 1-10).

what's wrong wit that?

You're a 1 but want a 7??? Sometimes I really really think you may be a troll....

January 16, 2012

Please say you're kidding or posting this just for sake of starting a discussion?

To truly believe that you must have someone "beautiful" or it's "giving up your dreams" is to suggest that you have mental issues way beyond the "average" person.

Dream about being with someone who accepts you, loves you and finds you attractive. Dreaming about someone who's just beautiful to "fulfill your dreams" is absolutely absurd.

Beauty is truly skin deep. Beauty also fades. What will you do when she loses her looks? Find another woman who fits you're "dreams"?

Men like you make me sad. Men like you are why the "average" woman starves herself, gets several plastic surgeries and beats herself up for YEARS.

January 16, 2012

I don't think he's a troll. I recall him saying he's mentally handicapped or something along those lines, so that's probably why most of what he says makes no sense to so many. If that's true, he's certainly not helping himself with topics like this.

January 16, 2012

i'm just saying, I want at least a decently attractive girl, who doesn't?
Like she doesn't have to be an 10 but at least a 7. I'm myself a 1 in the male scale ( 1-10).
what's wrong wit that?

Look, if there is one hard and fast rule to life an relationships it's this... Don't ask for more than you are willing to offer.

January 16, 2012

Please say you're kidding or posting this just for sake of starting a discussion?

To truly believe that you must have someone "beautiful" or it's "giving up your dreams" is to suggest that you have mental issues way beyond the "average" person.

Dream about being with someone who accepts you, loves you and finds you attractive. Dreaming about someone who's just beautiful to "fulfill your dreams" is absolutely absurd.

Beauty is truly skin deep. Beauty also fades. What will you do when she loses her looks? Find another woman who fits you're "dreams"?

Men like you make me sad. Men like you are why the "average" woman starves herself, gets several plastic surgeries and beats herself up for YEARS.

Didnt you only date highly attractive guys for most of your life? I could swear you did. Women like you make average men feel inadequate and want to do harsh stuff to themselves too.

January 16, 2012

Didnt you only date highly attractive guys for most of your life? I could swear you did. Women like you make average men feel inadequate and want to do harsh stuff to themselves too.

I agree. I don't agree with the OP either but don't be a hypocrite about it.

January 16, 2012

I think people are generally more compatible with those that are similar to them in intelligence, personality, appearance, beliefs/values, education, social status, etc. Even though you may desire something different, and you may get something different, I think there is better chance for success in a LTR with someone you are most compatible with. For example, if a very intelligent person were to marry someone with average to lower intelligence, eventually the more intelligent person might become disenchanted with a person they can't hold the stimulating conversations with that they would like. The person from a lower social status than the spouse may eventually resent having to spend money on living up to social expectations. The person who is highly religious may feel disconnected to someone that they can't share their faith with. The person with a gregarious personality may find their more reserved partner to be not entertaining enough to satisfy their need to be entertained by their partner. Someone with stunning good looks might be drawn to someone who also has that quality after marrying someone who was of average appearance. I think it works out best for the long term that people seek others that have similarities to themselves.

January 16, 2012

You are your own worst enemy. Your requirements in a woman are too stringent and you exude self loathing. Until you are happy with yourself and can be realistic about women you will continue to be unsuccessful.

I was talking to somedude81 who has posted at length about his requirements in a woman.

Oh, you were. I wasn't sure.

So you really think my requirements are too stringent?

First of all, my main requirement is something you posted yourself, "In general you should seek to date people you have something in common with and who is fun to be around." Now you're telling me I shouldn't go for that?

Then I want a girl who is cute and not overweight. No, I did not say hot and fit. Just cute, which the vast majority of young women are.

Now tell me why my requirements are unrealistic.

January 16, 2012

Oh, you were. I wasn't sure.

So you really think my requirements are too stringent?

First of all, my main requirement is something you posted yourself, "In general you should seek to date people you have something in common with and who is fun to be around." Now you're telling me I shouldn't go for that?

Then I want a girl who is cute and not overweight. No, I did not say hot and fit. Just cute, which the vast majority of young women are.

Now tell me why my requirements are unrealistic.

Because I've seen the pictures if women you claim qualify( professional models) and women who dont( five pound overweight according to bmi).

And you approach young party girls in college, not women your own age who might be interested in pursuing LTR versus hanging out/ hooking up.

January 16, 2012

Because I've seen the pictures if women you claim qualify( professional models) and women who dont( five pound overweight according to bmi).

No, you definitely have me mixed up with somebody else.

I haven't posted pictures of models.

My main requirements for weight is that a girl can't be heavier than I am, which is 150 and she has to be height weight proportionate. So yeah, a girl that's 5'3, 145 is too heavy for me.

And you approach young party girls in college, not women your own age who might be interested in pursuing LTR versus hanging out/ hooking up.

I've never approached party girls. I've no interest in that type of woman.

Yes the the women I do approach are all younger than me, that's what happens when I'm 30 years old at a university. They are not all party girls and many girls I have pursued have common interests and hobbies with me.

January 16, 2012

I asked my brother and he basically said this:

"If I can't get hard thinking about her, it's not gonna happen". Crude, I would say, but accurate IMO. I think people should never date people they aren't attracted to.

January 16, 2012

Didnt you only date highly attractive guys for most of your life? I could swear you did. Women like you make average men feel inadequate and want to do harsh stuff to themselves too.

You have me confused with someone else. I've dated mostly average looking guys and only ONE guy I'd consider really attractive (and so did every other woman) and he ended up being a total douche.

January 16, 2012

Because I've seen the pictures if women you claim qualify( professional models) and women who dont( five pound overweight according to bmi).
And you approach young party girls in college, not women your own age who might be interested in pursuing LTR versus hanging out/ hooking up.

You are thinking of Mr. Nate.

That guy isn't attracted to women... he likes broomsticks instead.

January 16, 2012

You are thinking of Mr. Nate.

That guy isn't attracted to women... he likes broomsticks instead.

LOL, how could I get mixed up with him?

In the rare cases in which I posted pictures, they were of super busty women, which is a fetish, not a requirement in the slightest.

January 16, 2012

You're a 1 but want a 7??? Sometimes I really really think you may be a troll....

Laughable post that renders this thread a joke, and I can only presume that's his intent--I'd sure hate to think any sane person who considers themselves a 1 (completely unattractive) wouldn't presume to be able to attract a 7, which is actress/amateur model-type looks.

January 16, 2012

My main requirements for weight is that a girl can't be heavier than I am, which is 150 and she has to be height weight proportionate. So yeah, a girl that's 5'3, 145 is too heavy for me.

Maybe you should gain some weight

January 16, 2012

No, you definitely have me mixed up with somebody else.

I haven't posted pictures of models.

My main requirements for weight is that a girl can't be heavier than I am, which is 150 and she has to be height weight proportionate. So yeah, a girl that's 5'3, 145 is too heavy for me.

I've never approached party girls. I've no interest in that type of woman.

Yes the the women I do approach are all younger than me, that's what happens when I'm 30 years old at a university. They are not all party girls and many girls I have pursued have common interests and hobbies with me.

So you aren't the one who likes to post the pictures of the model with the bikini bottom and flower garland covering her breasts? As I recall you discription of this very beautiful girl is "average".

January 16, 2012

LOL, how could I get mixed up with him?
In the rare cases in which I posted pictures, they were of super busty women, which is a fetish, not a requirement in the slightest.

I was thinking the same thing. That guy had a 2,000 page thread about his 65lb 5'10" GF and how hot she is.

Personally, I'm not going to be attracted to a woman if I can see her ribs. If she looks like she just stumbled out of a concentration camp... I'll pass. Unless of course she DID just stumble out of a concentration camp... then I'm going to buy her a cheeseburger.

January 16, 2012

Maybe you should gain some weight

Me? LOL, I'm only 5'6.

Though I don't think me getting heavier is a good reason to accept a bigger woman

So you aren't the one who likes to post the pictures of the model with the bikini bottom and flower garland covering her breasts? As I recall you discription of this very beautiful girl is "average".

Oh you mean this girl?

Chelsea was my Jr. College crush.

The closest to a 10 I've ever seen in real life. She isn't even close to average.

She was so far out of my league it was funny. Real cool girl too.

January 16, 2012

Me? LOL, I'm only 5'6.

Though I don't think me getting heavier is a good reason to accept a bigger woman

My BF is almost 185lbs and your height. He's also a weight lifter.

January 16, 2012

Me? LOL, I'm only 5'6.

Though I don't think me getting heavier is a good reason to accept a bigger woman

Oh you mean this girl?

Chelsea was my Jr. College crush.

The closest to a 10 I've ever seen in real life. She isn't even close to average.

She was so far out of my league it was funny. Real cool girl too.

She's pretty, usually not into the blonds but she's nice. You probably could have got her. I remember my friend and I knew a hot girl at college when I first left school. I thought she was out of my league and she went off with my friend, but my friend said to me a few years later, "She was on you first, you know, you should have moved to her....". I was like :lmao: lol

January 16, 2012

Me? LOL, I'm only 5'6.
Though I don't think me getting heavier is a good reason to accept a bigger woman
Oh you mean this girl?
Chelsea was my Jr. College crush.
The closest to a 10 I've ever seen in real life. She isn't even close to average.
She was so far out of my league it was funny. Real cool girl too.

How about getting laid as a good reason to accept a bigger woman?

Chelsea isn't anything to get too excited over. I'd put her at like a 6. She would need a banging personality to get me interested.

January 16, 2012

My BF is almost 185lbs and your height. He's also a weight lifter.

Wow, 185 at 5'6. That is huge! I think he's either got a lot of fat as well, or he's on steroids.

If I didn't work out, I'd be like 120. I'm naturally very skinny. I can still get bigger, but it will be a lot of work.

She's pretty, usually not into the blonds but she's nice. You probably could have got her. I remember my friend and I knew a hot girl at college when I first left school. I thought she was out of my league and she went off with my friend, but my friend said to me a few years later, "She was on you first, you know, you should have moved to her....". I was like :lmao: lol

Nah, I've never had a chance. She had a BF back home in Hawaii. Some blonde hair, blue eyed surfer dude.

Plus back then, I was like 25 and much more insecure than I am now.

How about getting laid as a good reason to accept a bigger woman?

Emm. I really don't like that idea. Frankly I think using a bigger girl as an easy way to get sex is a horrible thing to do.

Chelsea isn't anything to get too excited over. I'd put her at like a 6. She would need a banging personality to get me interested.

ROFL! Hear that people? Untouchable_Fire thinks she's a 6.

And people said I had too stringent standards.

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