TaraMaiden Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 You've posted no evidence at all. You expect me to do your leg-work for you? to find a load of hearsay and unsubstantiated gossip? Gimme a break.... EV-I-DENCE: Just to help you understand what that is..... ev·i·dence (v-dns) n. A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment. tr.v. ev·i·denced, ev·i·denc·ing, ev·i·denc·es 1. To indicate clearly; exemplify or prove. 2. To support by testimony; attest. [Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin videntia, from Latin vidns, vident-, obvious; see evident.] evidence [ˈɛvɪdəns] n Ground for belief or disbelief; data on which to base proof or to establish truth or falsehood vb (tr) 1. to make evident; show clearly 2. to give proof of or evidence for It's up to you to put your money where your mouth is, and provide me with direct links to documented and researched evidence that what you are asserting is factual and determined through experiment. Like I did, about Münchhausen's Syndrome being more prevalent in men....remember? I evidenced three separate medical sources for you to examine. not '....go to any forum except for maybe facebook'.... So now, it's your turn. Do some research, find some links, and bring me some clear documented and regulated evidence of all this total and utter bull's do's you're posting. But I reckon I'm going to have to wait a long time for you to come up with anything remotely respectable, so i won't hold my breath.
Shaun-Dro Posted January 28, 2012 Posted January 28, 2012 I can't trust anyone. I mean I look at people from my livingroom window and they seem 'civil'.... But are they? I can't tell because they see me and they turn into the Antichrist Lots of people are like this to me, including strangers, a complete change in their what looked like an 'easygoing personality' as soon as they spot me, especially when they're around other people Of course if you're ok or hot looking you will get to see this "I care for the world" personality all the time Edit: I lost faith in humanity years ago.... I don't know why we cheer when we put serial killers behind bars because most people out there are exactly the same, they just having a different method of expressing it I may getter better looking with age.... But these women needny think they can come up and ask me out on a date because every single one (if any) will be told to 'get lost' I hate this world and everything in it and when I go everything goes with me Little kids spot you and then throw stones for no reason. Yea, sure. Stop trolling already!
Author danmorisson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Posted January 29, 2012 Yes I would come to a forum and troll and not only troll but troll on the same subject for months... And what a strange subject to troll about....
Author danmorisson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) @TaraMaiden Are you for real? Watch those crime shows on the discovery channels... I've heard at least 5 different female detectives/psychiatrists say that this Munchausen is more prevalent in females And you pointed out some male serial killers but serial killers are rare, whereas masochistic women are everywhere, hence why the males (especially the younger males) act all tough. We all know that most women are never completely honest when they say that they don't like violence I ain't trolling here. Just livin' in the real world Edit: Correction: You didn't mention serial killers. But still, the bad sort of evens itself out because there are a lot of masochistic females out there Edited January 29, 2012 by danmorisson
Author danmorisson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Posted January 29, 2012 You expect me to do your leg-work for you? to find a load of hearsay and unsubstantiated gossip? Gimme a break...What I said above... It feels like posting negative **** about famous serial killers (or maybe it's just the good looking ones) is prohibited Once I clicked on to this I kept doing it and kept getting the same results... people defending them, hated and/or ignored
TaraMaiden Posted January 29, 2012 Posted January 29, 2012 Yes I would come to a forum and troll and not only troll but troll on the same subject for months... And what a strange subject to troll about.... Actually, that describes a persistent troll to a T. Flaming Troll. My one foolish mistake was thinking I could at least make you see reason. that was dumb. But i can take comfort in the fact that in spite of that, I am right. which makes you completely, and utterly wrong.
Author danmorisson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Posted January 29, 2012 @TaraMaiden You're only saying this because you know that I am right. People in general (especially online) always seem to have this problem with accepting the truth. Look around internet, people like me are quite often called liars... People seem selfish "If I don't have this problem, you don't!" YOU are the troll. Ugly people (especially ugly males) are heckled all the ****ing time... That's real life. That's reality. YOU are completely wrong, and you know it... And most people online do have a secret thing for serial killers and according to you this should be rare but it's not because I come across people like this way more often than not
Author danmorisson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 I'm not looking for a date, and I just don't know how many times I have to drill this through people's thick ****ing heads... That's one more thing I forgot to mention, now I constanly remind people that this has got absolutely nothing to do with dating, I make this clear, loud and clear, even the disabled in the real world would understand, and yet lots of people still post stuff related to dating.... Lots of them type with amazing grammar, supposed to be a sign of intelligence, so I am just wondering why I have to repeat that a lot to people online...
johan Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 You're never going to get a date with an attitude like that.
Author danmorisson Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 You're never going to get a date with an attitude like that. That's absolutely fantastic BECAUSE I DON'T WANT ONE Hello, I'm single, and I love it It's not going to be because of my attitude (who said I say these things in the real world, thicko?), women like badboys, it's going to be either because of A) I'm too nice B) I'm too ugly or C) I just don't ****ing one one anyway Incase you haven't noticed this already, I don't particularly like females
Taramere Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 I read that somewhere and it seems to fit perfectly with what I experience as an unattractive male More evidence... I can't show myself over the Internet because I'm not kidding you when I do nearly every female online is horrendously sarcastc when I message them for whatever reason, whether that be to compliment them on something or something else I can't imagine you complimenting somebody, from what I've read on here. Perhaps what you regard as a compliment doesn't come across as one to others. Even celebrities are nasty, they don't type nasty stuff but they ignore you Why are you writing to celebrities? Is this on Twitter? I should think that in the field of narcissism, whether they're male or female, celebrities would excel. Most particularly, those celebrities who don't excel in any other area. Edit: There is no doubt in my mind that men are infinitely more compassionate than women, and this is not biased, I based this on overwhelming evidence How does one go about measuring compassion? You could look at who donates more to charity, but averages would be mucked up by extremely wealthy men who aren't necessarily that compassionate by nature but use charitable donations as a PR device. What I would say (purely based on my own perceptions of people) is that women tend more towards a "charity begins at home" mentality whereas men will often want to spread compassion further afield. Narcissism is one of those labels that is very easily applied. You could say that the "charity begins at home" woman is more narcissistic because she's concerned primarily with her own family's welfare rather than caring about others outside her circle. On the other hand, the man who spreads compassion on a wider scale might be doing so in a very grandiose "look how wonderful and compassionate I am." Maybe his own biological children are family are getting less than other children and families get as a consequence. He could be genuinely compassionate and caring about the world, or he could be making public displays of compassion for narcissistic, self aggrandising purposes, which is particularly common amongst both men and women in the celebrity community.
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) Well... I go online to escape from all the bad **** in the real world. But only to find that the net is much worse. I can't speak freely on here. I have to censor myself. I can't crack a joke about anybody famous. Can't post anything negative about anthying bad. Heck, even negative comments on serial killers is widely considered bad. That's basically it, I have to censor myself and be like everyone else in order to get along Edited January 31, 2012 by danmorisson
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Well... I go online to escape from all the bad **** in the real world. But only to find that the net is much worse. I can't speak freely on here. I have to censor myself. I can't crack a joke about anybody famous. Can't post anything negative about anthying bad. Heck, even negative comments on serial killers is widely considered bad. That's basically it, I have to censor myself and be like everyone else in order to get along I know. It's becoming a real problem that we are no longer allowed to post negative comments about serial killers on the Internet. What is with that, anyway? This is just further proof that women are genetically narcissistic. Yeah!
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 I know. It's becoming a real problem that we are no longer allowed to post negative comments about serial killers on the Internet. What is with that, anyway? This is just further proof that women are genetically narcissistic. Yeah! Why do all the women that I talk to get all defensive and hateful whenever I do it then? I've talked to thousands of people on here, the internet, and I've only came across 1 or 2 females that I can speak freely to. For the rest, posting anything negative about the famous, the attractive looking, and even serial killers is prohibited. I hate talking to people when I have to censor myself like ****...
johan Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I just think you need to tone it down a little bit. Then you'll start getting dates.
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I just think you need to tone it down a little bit. Then you'll start getting dates. My discussion has nothing to do with dates I think it's annoying that I can't speak freely on the internet. I'm forgetting and thinking it's the real world, I'm about to crack a joke about some famous person and I have to remind myself at the last minute that doing that is widely prohibited on here Edited January 31, 2012 by danmorisson
johan Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I have a feeling what you're thinking you would like to say wouldn't be tolerated anywhere. And you are probably overestimating how interesting anyone would find it. Of course, we'll never know unless you go ahead and type it up. Why don't you?
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) I have a feeling what you're thinking you would like to say wouldn't be tolerated anywhere. And you are probably overestimating how interesting anyone would find it. Of course, we'll never know unless you go ahead and type it up. Why don't you? You come online and you talk to people. Do you not feel 'forced' to act a 'certain' way in order to get along with the majority of other net surfers? Do you not feel that you have to 'hold back' certain opinions, moral or not, because you know that these opinions will widely outcase you every single time you state them? Do you not feel forced to go along with popular opinions, whether that be moral or not? Edit: I was on a forum a while back there and this person created a "let's mock fat people thread", everyone was posting random Dane's and Jane's in it and everyone was laughing at all the posts, so I just decided that I'd post this 800 pound wrestler instead, a famous person, a celebrity, fatter than all of these Dane's and Jane's put together, plus he wore skin tight pants, but as soon as I posted this picture everyone on the forum suddenly turned all serious and it caused this huge flamewar.... Even though this person clearly stated that the thread was only for a joke Edited January 31, 2012 by danmorisson
TaraMaiden Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 You come online and you talk to people. Do you not feel 'forced' to act a 'certain' way in order to get along with the majority of other net surfers? Do you not feel that you have to 'hold back' certain opinions, moral or not, because you know that these opinions will widely outcase you every single time you state them? Do you not feel forced to go along with popular opinions, whether that be moral or not? Edit: I was on a forum a while back there and this person created a "let's mock fat people thread", everyone was posting random Dane's and Jane's in it and everyone was laughing at all the posts, so I just decided that I'd post this 800 pound wrestler instead, a famous person, a celebrity, fatter than all of these Dane's and Jane's put together, plus he wore skin tight pants, but as soon as I posted this picture everyone on the forum suddenly turned all serious and it caused this huge flamewar.... Even though this person clearly stated that the thread was only for a joke No - YOU caused a huge flame-war, by being provocative, antagonistic and argumentative. just steer clear of threads like that..... why be party to that kind of provocation...? Do you actively seek out threads like that? you must do....i've never come across threads, forums or sites like that - because,guess what? I don't go looking for them! Is your alter-ego Woggle? Are you a sockpuppet? Sounds like it to me...... Generalising about women and people in general, stating categorically that this is definitely what people think - even though 'people' categorically deny it....you don't particularly like women.... This has got 'woggle' written all over it.....
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) @TaraMaiden Well if you ever come across a forum where this does happen, a word of warning: do not post any famous people, even if he/she is only 50x fatter than the average "nobody", just stick to "average citizens", if not, then hey, be prepared to be called a "jealous wannabee Sumo" and flamed out of the forum... And to see the entire thread mysteriously disappear afterwards for obvious reasons. What can I say, the mod has his favourites.... Edit: You say woggle written all over it... A lot of things bother me and that is one of them, everyone should be treated equally, no exceptions, if one is going to joke about fat people, then don't get mad if I decide to post picture or video of a famous fat person instead of the usual "nobody" all the time And I don't intentionally cause arguments, I merely express my opinions, like how I posted a negative opinion about this serial killer on this forum and it caused an argument, something about some serial killers on some sort of (and I quote) "moral crusade". Even all the females sided with him and teamed up together to have me banned And I'm telling you, I don't have to go to a serial killer fanpage, everywhere I go on here I see signs that women have the hots for serial killers, the violence and whatnot Maybe you don't probe people when you talk to them but I do Edit: And as soon as you say anything bad about serial killers, snap, completely different personality comes out, they suddenly ignore you, and you know that there is something sinister about it, to put it bluntly, you know that it's out of sheer 'badness' Edited January 31, 2012 by danmorisson
Taramere Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 Is your alter-ego Woggle? Are you a sockpuppet? Sounds like it to me...... Generalising about women and people in general, stating categorically that this is definitely what people think - even though 'people' categorically deny it....you don't particularly like women.... This has got 'woggle' written all over it..... I don't think he sounds like Woggle. Woggle complains, but despite that there's something fairly laid back about his posts and he doesn't tend to personally insult people on the board. Not even when they're berating him. I just assumed this one was another of the Normal Knowledge guy's personas.
Taramere Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 I wanted to come back and post again, having looked at a few of danmorrison's other posts. Dan, first of all...I'm sorry if I was mistaken, in my previous post, in thinking that you were the alter ego of somebody who trolled here for a while under various usernames. I think I've got some idea of a few of the issues behind this post. You've posted elsewhere that you have a cranial defect which has caused you a great amount of stress and unhappiness throughout your life due to the cruelty of people outside your family. You have brothers, who have been compassionate and apparently a great support in your life. You also have a sister who, from the sound of it, takes the hostile outside world perspective and so when she's around home feels less like a secure bolthole for you. When that is your situation in life, it's understandable that you're going to have a general belief that women lack compassion/are shallow and narcissistic. Our own experiences colour our opinions strongly, and can't necessarily be negated by other people's opinions. Also in this thread, you're talking about feeling ostracised in online discussions. In theory, online is a place where you should be able to communicate with others without your physical appearance getting in the way. In practice, it seems as though you still find it difficult to have normal, pleasant communication with people. Most probably because you haven't had that experience in real life, helping you to develop communication skills that you can transfer onto your online dealings with people. This is supposed to be a supportive community, and one where hopefully you could feel able to discuss some of these issues. However, you're tending to present your issues in terms of what you see as other people's problems. That is, you perceive people as being too shallow, narcissistic, etc. Other people who fall into categories you identify as shallow and narcissistic (eg women) are bound to react in a negative way to that. What kind of counselling have you had to help you manage other people's responses to your appearance?
Author danmorisson Posted January 31, 2012 Author Posted January 31, 2012 (edited) @Taramere My sis lives in a completely different world from me, everyone's always thought she was 'hot' looking... I don't lack social skills, I could go out and hang with my friends, but I don't do this because my appearance gets it all the time from those 'outside the 'friends' circle' I mean, think about it, you have decent people out there, but how can one go out when others 'outside the friends circle' say really horrible things, constanly heckle you, over your appearance? Ignore them? They approach you! And yes, people online are generally uncaring... They basically say "So what? Deal with it!" Edit: And this brings me back to famous people, celebrities, if I were some celebrity right now the general reaction would be a lot different Edited January 31, 2012 by danmorisson
Taramere Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 @Taramere My sis lives in a completely different world from me, everyone's always thought she was 'hot' looking... I don't lack social skills, I could go out and hang with my friends, but I don't do this because my appearance gets it all the time from those 'outside the 'friends' circle' I mean, think about it, you have decent people out there, but how can one go out when others 'outside the friends circle' say really horrible things, constanly heckle you, over your appearance? Ignore them? They approach you! And yes, people online are generally uncaring... They basically say "So what? Deal with it!" I think that (the last part) comes down to people simply not having solutions. I'm sure most people reading your story would, if they could, wave a magic wand to make you look more like you would want to look...but they can't do it. So faced with a problem that cannot be resolved, people will often tend to walk away. Whether because they feel frustrated due to lack of ability to help, or because their support is conditional on seeing some sort of tangible results that make them feel good about having lent support. One thing is that you do have friends, so you know that there are good people out there. The ones who heckle and shout...well, I don't know what to say. If I could stop people behaving like that I would, but that would require instilling those people with some basic sense of decency which is obviously a task their parents have already failed at. The internet....well, that's another realm altogether. A little like the way people feel invisible when they're in their vehicles (and therefore often behave in ways they wouldn't normally behave) the internet brings out something unpleasant in a lot of people. For the reasons you've outlined on this board, life is always going to be harder for you than it is for most people and there aren't really words of comfort to offer other than to encourage you to focus on the good people in your life, and to work hard not to allow the negativity of these hecklers you encounter to poison those relationships...or other friendships you might develop in life.
josie54 Posted January 31, 2012 Posted January 31, 2012 @Taramere I mean, think about it, you have decent people out there, but how can one go out when others 'outside the friends circle' say really horrible things, constanly heckle you, over your appearance? Ignore them? They approach you! And yes, people online are generally uncaring... They basically say "So what? Deal with it!" As an adult, I have never, nor has anyone I know, appraoched someone to "heckle" them over their looks. I've never seen it done by anyone else. (I'm excluding elementary and high school, of course. In high school, there are always that few who do so because they are insecure themselves...but even there, it's only a few people causing the problems.) So, the generalizations you describe here seemed to be specific to YOU, rather than something that happens on a general basis. You certainly project and attract negativity by the truckloads. I've never even seen you and I already find you incredibly unattractive. So, there. I'm a woman, and I just proved your point. I'm genetically narcissistic, mean, and sarcastic because I don't like someone to tell me how awful a person I am by virtue of being a woman. Shocker!
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