Woggle Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 that relationships between the genders are just not working anymore? I was reading some article on a website and the comments show how much bitterness and animosity there is between men and women. We still have sexual desire so why not just find a sex partner and then go home afterwards? Stop trying to force love and commitment between men and women because it is clearly not working anymore. Men and women pretty much hate each other for the most part and I see no softening of the bitterness so why try and make it happen in this kind of climate? If people believe things are not this bad go to any site like Daily Mail or Huffington Post or any of them and read the comments. Look at how many truly happy couples you know. Romance is dead and people need to face it.
Author Woggle Posted January 14, 2012 Author Posted January 14, 2012 I have not but reading some of this stuff just makes me feel so down. Men and women really do not like each other these days.
soserious1 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Well, Woggle, That is exactly what I do. I'm not sure what else one could say. I no longer desire anything besides sex from my relationships.
ThaWholigan Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I will say that the vast majority of the people who post in the "Daily Mail" do not reflect the vast majority. There are problems for sure though, but it's not perhaps as negative as we may think initially.
carhill Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 You choose what you read and choose what you believe. I see life as a mixed bag that none of us gets out of alive. I do see dysfunctional and unhappy marriages and I also see happy, loving and healthy marriages, all within my social circle. It is what it is. You seem to have a happy and healthy marriage so I count you amongst the fortunate ones. If I would dare to choose, I'd choose your path. Therein lies the lesson.
xxoo Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I have not but reading some of this stuff just makes me feel so down. Men and women really do not like each other these days. There has to be a better place to post this stuff and work through your stuff. This is the dating board, where people are trying to find love. How is it fair for you to enjoy a great marriage, but also come to the dating board and discourage these people from finding the same?
Jessica45 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I see many great relationships around me. My parents, my sister, friends. My first marriage of 18 years was wonderful and the romance and passion were high to the very end. (he passed away). My current relationship is over a year old and going strong. Hopefully it will lead into marriage. I see it working. I've experienced it working. I'm not saying it's easy and maybe the majority is like you say. I don't know, I only know what I personally see. But I do know for a fact that it exists and is worth fighting for.
Author Woggle Posted January 14, 2012 Author Posted January 14, 2012 There has to be a better place to post this stuff and work through your stuff. This is the dating board, where people are trying to find love. How is it fair for you to enjoy a great marriage, but also come to the dating board and discourage these people from finding the same? It's the truth though. Why should I sugarcoat reality. I also wonder if my marriage is really that happy. Many of the comments told me that deep down all married women are weak and are envious of their single friends. How do I know that deep down she doesn't wish she were still single so she can our with the girls?
Jynxx Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 If people believe things are not this bad go to any site like Daily Mail or Huffington Post or any of them and read the comments. Might aswell go to a trailer park and draw conclusions about the worldwide table etiquette.
iris219 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) We still have sexual desire so why not just find a sex partner and then go home afterwards? This runs counter to what most women are looking for. The above is what I actively avoid. I'd rather have no sex than resort to sex with a random guy who I couldn't stand to spend the night with, so that's a terrible suggestion to me. It's the truth though. Why should I sugarcoat reality. I also wonder if my marriage is really that happy. Many of the comments told me that deep down all married women are weak and are envious of their single friends. How do I know that deep down she doesn't wish she were still single so she can our with the girls? I see the exact opposite: the married women I know, even the ones whose marriages aren't perfect (whose is?), wouldn't trade their lives for mine. I, on the other hand, would give anything to be in their place. I want nothing more than a relationship with a good man. I can't find this, but I'm not bitter and I don't blame or dislike men. Edited January 14, 2012 by iris219
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Why are you posting negative threads like this again, and insulting all of us who are enjoying our relationships? Including your own marriage? How ungrateful.
D-Lish Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 that relationships between the genders are just not working anymore? I was reading some article on a website and the comments show how much bitterness and animosity there is between men and women. We still have sexual desire so why not just find a sex partner and then go home afterwards? Stop trying to force love and commitment between men and women because it is clearly not working anymore. Men and women pretty much hate each other for the most part and I see no softening of the bitterness so why try and make it happen in this kind of climate? If people believe things are not this bad go to any site like Daily Mail or Huffington Post or any of them and read the comments. Look at how many truly happy couples you know. Romance is dead and people need to face it. Is that your personal experience currently? Are you with a partner, living in an environment festering with bitterness on the road to apathy?
Author Woggle Posted January 14, 2012 Author Posted January 14, 2012 I even told some of these women on the boards that my wife and I were happy and they said that deep down she would give her right arm to be single independent like they are and not be caged by a man. These were their exact words. They said deep down every married woman feels like that because no animal likes being in captivity.
thatone Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 i do think that romance/relationships have declined, there's no arguing that. but i don't think it's the fault of men or women, i think it's the fault of our modern technology age more than anything else. men have porn to satisfy their visual desire. women have online dating sites to satisfy their needs for random attention. neither of these things are real, but they do the job. the end result is people forget how to interact with the opposite sex, and the next generation in many cases won't learn at all. we already see the beginnings of this with the apparently large numbers of male virgins in their 30s these days. solution? there is no solution. rome didn't fall in a day it was a gradual decline. and once it started it couldn't be stopped . on the plus side, the odds shift in favor of normal people by numbers alone.
johan Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until Woggle forgets he has a disorder. And then his negative thoughts become real for him. He gets upset by them and posts about it. People here respond and tell him he's not thinking straight, reminding him he has a disorder. So he processes that and waits a couple days for the impact of all the negative emotions to subside. Then he feels better, until ...
carhill Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 hey said that deep down she would give her right arm to be single independent like they are and not be caged by a manThat must've been before my time or privately because I've never seen it in print and my post total shows I read way more posts than is likely healthy.
collegeguy_24 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I know this may not be what most men feel, but I happen to like relationships. Yes sex is good, but I will always take a relationship over a one night stand any day. Though I wouldn't mind an FWB, because in the end, there is still something there. I like the feeling of caring for someone and having them care for me, sure there are problems along the way, but you know what, that's life. life is not perfect and more often then not it sucks, its up to us to make the most of it.
iris219 Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I even told some of these women on the boards that my wife and I were happy and they said that deep down she would give her right arm to be single independent like they are and not be caged by a man. These were their exact words. They said deep down every married woman feels like that because no animal likes being in captivity. Why do you care so much about what strangers say?
Author Woggle Posted January 14, 2012 Author Posted January 14, 2012 Why do you care so much about what strangers say? Because deep down I do wonder if my wife really thinks this. It seems that a very large number of women feel this way so why is she the exception. These are mainstream sites and not feminist sites.
thatone Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Because deep down I do wonder if my wife really thinks this. It seems that a very large number of women feel this way so why is she the exception. These are mainstream sites and not feminist sites. from growing up around a divorce attorney, trust me, the signs are obvious. you'll have plenty of advance warning if that is the case. and if you fail to act on those signs it'll be your own fault.
LadyGrey Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 Because deep down I do wonder if my wife really thinks this. It seems that a very large number of women feel this way so why is she the exception. These are mainstream sites and not feminist sites. Instead of enjoying time with your wife and be loving to her and allowing her to be loving to you, you read shyte like that, that just feeds your negativity and your sickness. Admit it, you love the negativity and love feeding it. How dense can you be woggle? To believe what some stranger tells you about your wife? Geez. What you are doing is sicker than all the crap you read.
D-Lish Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I even told some of these women on the boards that my wife and I were happy and they said that deep down she would give her right arm to be single independent like they are and not be caged by a man. These were their exact words. They said deep down every married woman feels like that because no animal likes being in captivity. Really? You've been told that? Really, YOU believe that Woggle? I am betting you heard that ONCE, yet have ignored the hundreds of worthy women with positive advice (I know you rarely ever listen to me when I post) who would disagree with that 100 times over. I bet you rec'd that quip surfing the OW forum looking for justification that all women are evil, back stabbing cheaters. You probably even incited that comment for your own purpose. You know what's frustrating? There are those of us that have been burned pretty badly in life- not unlike what you've experienced in the past. Yet you have what us burn victims aspire to- and are still searching for. If I actually found someone worth marrying again, I would hope I wouldn't be on the internet every single night spewing venom about men and how horrible they are. If that should be the case, it would mean I was in yet another bad marriage. Are you in a bad marriage? Are you miserable because your wife is just like all the women in your past? Does she berate you like your mother or your ex-wife? Does she cheat on you, criticize you, make you feel bad about yourself? What is she doing right now? Is she sitting in another room or maybe in bed early wondering why you don't pay her enough attention while you spend your time and energy on the internet lamenting about how horrible women are? Does it ever occur to you that you alienate your wife (that you claim is loving and loyal), by spending so much of your energy searching the internet for reasons to dismiss her? Does it ever occur to you that you are serving her with the same injustice that you have experienced in the past by ignoring her and denying her access to what's going on in your head? Nothing worse than being in a relationship and knowing something is off. She knows something is off, she's just too polite to say anything. You're taking her for granted.
sweetjasmine Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 that relationships between the genders are just not working anymore? I was reading some article on a website and the comments show how much bitterness and animosity there is between men and women. Well, that settles it. Reader comments on online articles have convinced me that I need to dump my wonderful fiance because men and women are mortal enemies. Thanks for the helpful tip, Woggle. I hope you find a good divorce lawyer for yourself. If people believe things are not this bad go to any site like Daily Mail or Huffington Post or any of them and read the comments. Who would've guessed that if you stick your head in a garbage can, you'll find garbage? What I don't understand is why you insist on looking in each garbage can you pass and getting extremely upset when you see yet more garbage in it. What are you expecting to find? A dozen roses and a chocolate cake?
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