Star Gazer Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 You weren't the only one. I wouldn't complain if the sykes torpededo boob look (or whatever it was called in the 50s) was one retro fashion style that came back in vogue. I wasn't saying it in a complimentary fashion.
allina Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 "By contemporary American standards" they ARE all thin. Most of America is overweight. I disagree, not with the fact that there are a lot of fat Americans but I still do not think they are skinny. They just aren't. I see many thinner women just on my way to work each day.
Star Gazer Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 I disagree, not with the fact that there are a lot of fat Americans but I still do not think they are skinny. They just aren't. I see many thinner women just on my way to work each day. 19-24" waists aren't skinny to you?
xxoo Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 19-24" waists aren't skinny to you? Those are small waist sizes, but corsets were common then. Some women would "train" their waist artificially smaller by wearing corsets much of the time, so they might have a tiny waist and still not be overall skinny.
dasein Posted January 15, 2012 Posted January 15, 2012 No Grace, Bettie, Christie, Heidi = no credibility in this man's world, but did enjoy the pics.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 But she looks very small chested, can't be more than a B cup. There's no way Jayne Mansfield is an H, but she's nowhere as small as a B, either--can't believe you're looking at all to think B. She looks around D to me.
allina Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 There's no way Jayne Mansfield is an H, but she's nowhere as small as a B, either--can't believe you're looking at all to think B. She looks around D to me. Ok, well I'm no expert but she looks like a B to me. I'm 32 d/dd though on a much smaller frame so that's part of what I'm basing this on.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Beautiful women. But hardly "average". Most women don't look like that. So whatever body type we are idolizing, it's always women that most real women aren't like. We get it, men like skinny with with big breasts and round hips. And if you don't fit into that, you can screw yourself. Because men are always on the hunt for the next new picture of a woman to gratify himself to. And Kaylan, I give you a big hand for pointing out the fact that despite how many men complain about how shallow women are, it is very rare that women post these kind of threads talking about men's bodies to the extent do when it comes to women's bodies. Also please note, that women aren't exactly posting pictures of men with big bank accounts either.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ok, well I'm no expert but she looks like a B to me. I'm 32 d/dd though on a much smaller frame so that's part of what I'm basing this on. Should always measure cup size separately from total bust because sometimes the bust can artificially add to or subtract from the cup. If you're a natural 34D, you can probably fit into 32F or 36B since one adds two inches to the fit and one subtracts two from it; the cups just won't cover as much or will cover more of the breasts. Cup size itself is purely a measurement of the distance away from the chest the breast extends, with A being 1 inch, B being two inches, and so on. Some clothing manufacturers don't measure their sizes correctly--I presume because they think it makes the greatest number of their clients feel better about what they're wearing--but the sizes themselves should be absolute, even though in reality they frequently aren't. Jayne extends a minimum of four inches away from her chest, no doubt about it, and she definitely doesn't go as high as eight inches away to make her an H-cup (that's massive, not sure any Hollywood actress has ever been that big, it isn't terribly attractive). Pictorial evidence: http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/135953.jpg http://farm1.staticflickr.com/95/275121092_4f5a76d9b4.jpg http://i2.listal.com/image/1371334/600full-jayne-mansfield.jpg Edited January 16, 2012 by EnigmaticClarity
xxoo Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The caption explains that Jayne Mansfield breastfed 5 children during her career. She could easily be a B in some photos and a D in others, depending on whether or not she was breastfeeding at the time.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 The caption explains that Jayne Mansfield breastfed 5 children during her career. She could easily be a B in some photos and a D in others, depending on whether or not she was breastfeeding at the time. I couldn't find any pictures where she looked remotely close to B, which is the average for women. In the first one I linked she looks like an E (i.e. DD) or possibly an F (DDD).
O'Malley Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Jayne was a 40 D early on in her career, and her chest measurement fluctuated over the years; she was a DD in the Sixties. I've read that she had a larger rib cage as well, but who knows how credible that is. Kudos to Julie Newmar and Ann Margret being on that list! No Diana Rigg (another of my favorites) but she was slimmer and more sporty looking than most of those women.
xxoo Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I couldn't find any pictures where she looked remotely close to B, which is the average for women. In the first one I linked she looks like an E (i.e. DD) or possibly an F (DDD). The photo in the OP's link looked much more modest sized. I googled some more images, after reading that she breastfed (like me!). There are some photo shoots where she is more modest sized, although maybe larger than a B.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Jayne was a 40 D early on in her career' date=' and her chest measurement fluctuated over the years; she was a DD in the Sixties. I've read that she had a larger rib cage as well, but who knows how credible that is. [/quote'] 40 would be quite a large rib cage for her height, well above average. I can't get any sense of size from that picture on the "Ultimate Hourglass" site, it's face-on, has very faded colors hiding a lot of detail, and she doesn't have a supporting top on. I like her daughter Mariska Hargitay quite a lot more than Jayne, she's quite the babe. She's played the female detective on "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit" since it started.
blueskyday Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 I'm a 32 B or C, but when I was breastfeeding, I went up cup sizes to a D or so! I looked like I had a boob job, but they were rentals, and when my lease was up, I went back down. Always stayed a bit bigger than I was originally. What I'm taking away from this thread and the awesome pics is that I shouldn't worry about looking "hippy" in clothing. That is in fact, desirable! You all made me curious so I took my measurements. 34-24-34 (or 35 depending on where I measured hips, include butt in measurement?) Yeah, we women obsess, no doubt about it. Guess weight doesn't matter. It's the curves that do. Good take away. I really don't think guys care too much about how much we weigh. Guys don't want skinny. They want real, and firm but soft, and curvy. At least that's what I hear them say.
carhill Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) Ok, well I'm no expert but she looks like a B to me. I'm 32 d/dd though on a much smaller frame so that's part of what I'm basing this on. From IMDB: Measurements: 39 1/2-23-36 1/2 (smallest ever measured), 46D-18-36 (largest ever measured), 44D-18-36 (self-described), 46D-23-37 (after having children), 40D-21-35 1/2 (standard for the majority of her career), (Source: Celebrity Sleuth magazine). ETA, speaking of Jayne, the lady who played her in a biography, Loni Anderson, is/was no slouch herself: Described her early development and subsequent decision to have breast reduction surgery as follows, "When I was fourteen, my measurements were 37D-20-32. Now I feel more in proportion at 36-24-36 instead of outrageous." Measurements before second reduction operation: 38E-25-36. After 1995 reduction surgery: 38C-25-36. (Source: Celebrity Sleuth magazine) At time of 1995 surgery reported to be a 34DD. (Source: National Enquirer). Edited January 16, 2012 by carhill
dasein Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 it is very rare that women post these kind of threads talking about men's bodies to the extent do when it comes to women's bodies. Irony: The person who made the linked list to begin with is a married woman. Women link plenty of pics of beefcake/waifcake in threads here, they did plenty of it in my Twilight thread, and that's just fine by me. Live and let live.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 (edited) It's not uncommon for actresses to get reductions or to understate or hide their figure so that they're taken more seriously. Jennifer Connelly had a reduction about a decade ago at some point between the pic from that site and by the time she was in "A Beautiful Mind"; she went from about an E or F down to a C or D. Winona Ryder is rather curvy, but she has almost always hidden it under clothing, I presume so that she was known more for her acting than her body. Edited January 16, 2012 by EnigmaticClarity
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Irony: The person who made the linked list to begin with is a married woman. Women link plenty of pics of beefcake/waifcake in threads here, they did plenty of it in my Twilight thread, and that's just fine by me. Live and let live. I can only wish that more women treated myself and all men more like mere pieces of meat for their visual amusement.
xxoo Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 40 would be quite a large rib cage for her height, well above average. In current day bra sizing, the number is the band size. But in the 50s, the number was across the entire bust. So, if she was a 40D then, subtract out 4 inches for the D cup, and she would be a current day 36D.
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