Hilarious Video about American Women

January 11, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU9u9yaIPCQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4942-SJtjQ

Interesting to note that Eddie rants about this in his stand-up as if it was a relatively recent phenomenon back in 1987. But any guy who's grown up since and experienced the dating cesspool today will accept everything Eddie says as par for course - because it's the absolute truth.

I assume American women weren't always this way prior to this period. This leads me to believe that there was a huge sea-change in gender relations around the mid 1980s. Eddie Murphy alludes to American women becoming more "business-minded" in the the Reagan years of "greed is good" materialism, which leads me to believe that American women weren't always like this.

I believe there was a golden "free love" period post birth control pill and pre-AIDS (roughly mid 60s to early 80s) when there was a lot of ****ing going on and women didn't have a laundry-list of demands and expectations - and everyone was happy. I suspect a lot more "average" guys were getting it on a lot more back in the 70s than today. I don't even know if a forum like Loveshack would have existed back then.

Sadly, the majority of men today have never experienced a time when American women were better behaved.

Would be interested in the views and experiences of older men and women 40+ about how American men/women have changed over the years, and how changing gender relations have affected the dating scene.

January 11, 2012

I believe there was a golden "free love" period post birth control pill and pre-AIDS (roughly mid 60s to early 80s) when there was a lot of ****ing going on and women didn't have a laundry-list of demands and expectations - and everyone was happy. I suspect a lot more "average" guys were getting it on a lot more back in the 70s than today. I don't even know if a forum like Loveshack would have existed back then.
There are a couple things related to this quote that I am certain of;
1; There have been studies that support that the advent of birth control & STD's such as AIDs have effected sexual freedom. I would like to make clear that for those who did experience the late '60's through the late '70's, there was nothing 'free' about 'free love', that was as much a myth than as it would be today.
2; While views, technology, circumstance & many other things change, people, (human nature) really don't.
one more observation from this old time capsule; I'm sure your correct when you say; "I don't even know if a forum like Loveshack would have existed back then". I'm pretty sure it wouldn't. Things change & people react to those changes, like the availability of social net-works, but people, they don't change so much, not really. It's hard to think of grandma as a possible wild child though isn't it?

Edited January 11, 2012 by oldguy

January 11, 2012

Human nature is what it is, and has been throughout history. We just stick everything on the 'wall' these days. Sometimes it's smarter to zip one's fly once in awhile.

The most prevalent sexually affective dynamic I experienced in the 80's was cocaine. Nuts, IMO. Between that and AIDS it was quite a decade.

IME, women had their lists 'back then' and likely have had them throughout time. They're just different now.

I participated in a campus social BBS back when I was in engineering school in the late 70's. There wasn't really an internet for 'regular' people back then. Heck I was still programming computers in FORTRAN with punch cards, and a network terminal was a luxury.

I did experience a bit of an era when people in general were better behaved and looked out for each other. Times and people have changed. Life goes on.

January 11, 2012

The only thing that has changed is me. That makes a big (positive) difference in my dating now as opposed to back then.

January 11, 2012

Why do you post the exact same thing on sosuave and here? What is the purpose? Are you desperately seeking approval? Why not just stay over no sosuave, then. Admittedly I have not spent much time looking at it, but as far as I can tell there are no people besides those who follow the exact same belief system as you do. You'll find all the approval there that you need.

Here on LS, we have women and free-thinking men in the mix.

January 11, 2012

You even took your PUA buddy's PepperSpray's Eddie Murphy video and brought it here.

Glad to see you had another original thought.

January 11, 2012

A long time ago people kind of knew where they belonged in the pecking order. Today people would gasp in horror at the idea that if their father had a carpenting business, they would probably end up doing that one day as well. Of course there are exceptions to the rule, but society made sense.

Now everyone thinks the sky is the limit. A good thing? Maybe if we believed like the Bronze age Greeks and idealized unattainable, due to human condition, virtues. But instead we idealize consumerism and push the idea that everyone will be a millionaire/actor/rapper/*insert other ego stroking profession* one day. Everyone's hopes and dreams revolve around masturbating their ego.

That's how romance has evolved. Just like everyone thinks they're just temporary inconvenienced rock stars or billionaires (and act as such, because according to American self-help gurus that sell billions worth books every year to dumbasses, as long as you think you are Kim Kardashian or Lil Wayne, you ARE them) , women and men all think they're the **** and deserve the most perfect looking people. Women are a lot worse, usually men who personified the plastic shallow man of the 80's end up too horny to wait any longer, but women on the other hand aren't even physically attracted to 90% of men.

People have the illusion that the world's a huge place with limitless opportunities. It's BS. Smaller is always better, and a stick to it attitude is wasted if you only apply it to your damn glute or jelqing exercises.

That's a good summary of living and "dating" in the Great Satan.

January 11, 2012

Doesn't this qualify as trolling?

January 11, 2012

In the 80s, there was still a shred of accountability that attached to women for their actions, and the "blame everything on men" mantra was considered absurd and dishonest. A teenaged mother would be an extreme embarrassment to the family, even among the lower classes. In the 90s, the pervasive "you can have it all, do it all, with no consequences" consumerist message began to be blasted at women nonstop. Today we have shows on cable that glorify teenage mothers and single motherhood is a large cottage industry and mainstay in the economy. I see women who are obviously on aid/support payments in Walmart buying $100s of dollars of videos/games for kids weekly. Men by and large won't do this. If a man has any say, he will pay for "straight" teeth ($2000-5000) for the kids. If a woman is in charge, the teeth must be "perfect" ($7500-sky's the limit). Could extend this principle into almost every category of consumer spending. Women spend more and more profligately. Marketers aren't idiots and know this, so together with the government agenda and messages, the corporate advertising agenda and messages are to get as much money into women's hands. We all end up paying, especially men who walk into the carney booth of marriage unaware.

January 11, 2012

Wow - I have never seen a woman in Wal-Mart wearing a sign that said "I get child support payments from my child's father." Funny how various parts of the country can be so different?

As for TV shows that glorify teenage pregnancy - check this out.

http://remotecontrol.mtv.com/2011/11/21/teen-birth-rate-down-9-percent/

and

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/12/22/2009-teen-birthrate-declines-causes-and-theories.html

In 2009, the birth rate among teens dropped SIX percent. And in 2010, it dropped NINE percent. Those are the largest drops in 70+ years (since records were kept). And one of the biggest contributing factors is "16 And Pregnant" and "Teen Mom". If you have ever thought networks glorified being a young person and having a baby, then you have never watched those shows.

January 11, 2012

Wow - I have never seen a woman in Wal-Mart wearing a sign that said "I get child support payments from my child's father." Funny how various parts of the country can be so different?

If it's important to you, I'm sure your powers of observation will improve with dedicated practice. Just look for women with babies of different races who have lots of candy and sugary stuff in their shopping carts. Lots of other tip offs, but I don't want to be unduly offensive to all the angelically perfect welfare mothers of the world.

Women in the U.S. spend more money and spend money more frivolously than American men do was the main point.

And one of the biggest contributing factors is "16 And Pregnant" and "Teen Mom". If you have ever thought networks glorified being a young person and having a baby, then you have never watched those shows.

I have watched the shows. They are relatively judgment neutral. The fact that there are even shows on it signals the epidemic, supposed year to year reductions notwithstanding.

January 11, 2012

In the 80s, there was still a shred of accountability that attached to women for their actions, and the "blame everything on men" mantra was considered absurd and dishonest. A teenaged mother would be an extreme embarrassment to the family, even among the lower classes. In the 90s, the pervasive "you can have it all, do it all, with no consequences" consumerist message began to be blasted at women nonstop. Today we have shows on cable that glorify teenage mothers and single motherhood is a large cottage industry and mainstay in the economy. I see women who are obviously on aid/support payments in Walmart buying $100s of dollars of videos/games for kids weekly. Men by and large won't do this. If a man has any say, he will pay for "straight" teeth ($2000-5000) for the kids. If a woman is in charge, the teeth must be "perfect" ($7500-sky's the limit). Could extend this principle into almost every category of consumer spending. Women spend more and more profligately. Marketers aren't idiots and know this, so together with the government agenda and messages, the corporate advertising agenda and messages are to get as much money into women's hands. We all end up paying, especially men who walk into the carney booth of marriage unaware.

Never understood this idiotic obsession with perfect white teeth.

Generally speaking, women are the ones who do the shopping and spend their money on stupid things, so it makes sense to advertise to them. They don't really grasp the danger of something like a credit card, and how bad it is to ring up hundreds of dollars on clothes and jewels you dont have on it. I've seen this kind of behavior on a whole myriad of women, trying to live a life of luxury even if they can't afford it and it's an illusion.

January 11, 2012

Yes, the shows are relatively judgement neutral. And pretty true to life without preaching about birth control. They show the nitty-gritty of what life is really like when you have a newborn or toddler, a often absentee babydaddy, and are trying to go to school or work or both. My son will watch sometimes and just be amazed/appalled at some of the stories. One thing I am NOT worried about, and that is him coming home and telling me he got a girl pregnant. And the shows, frankly, have helped with that. Kids are a lot more likely to listen to that than to their parents telling them not to have premarital sex.

As for the support-sucking-single-mothers-of-America, I am glad to know that when I see a bi-racial child that I should get an automatic tip-off that she is a crappy welfare mom who promotes tooth decay and obesity.

January 11, 2012

I can't tell who is and is not a welfare mom but when I was a supermarket cashier back in the day I remember tons of women coming in with food stamp cards and WIC checks who had designer hand bags and clothes plus good jewelry.

Another thing I notice when shopping is a man in line on his cellphone getting screamed at by his wife because he is not fully understanding what exactly she wants him to buy. They look like the life has been sucked out of them.

January 11, 2012

Never understood this idiotic obsession with perfect white teeth.

You should come to the UK, we all have crap teeth and nobody cares. It's very liberating.

January 11, 2012

a bi-racial child

I meant two children of different races, implying a high chance of multiple fathers within a short time, but understand how what I posted could have been confusing.

January 11, 2012

I can't tell who is and is not a welfare mom but when I was a supermarket cashier back in the day I remember tons of women coming in with food stamp cards and WIC checks who had designer hand bags and clothes plus good jewelry.

I see ton's of welfare mom's at doctors offices every day. It's pretty rare, but some doctors are convinced that Welfare moms at times use the doctors office as free daycare.

Anyway... if they are getting money from some source... I think most often it's working under the table... They are very limited on what they can spend money on without losing government benefits.

If you create a system... people are going to find a way to milk it.

Another thing I notice when shopping is a man in line on his cellphone getting screamed at by his wife because he is not fully understanding what exactly she wants him to buy. They look like the life has been sucked out of them.

That was me at one point. I swear I had PTSD coming out of that relationship.

January 11, 2012

I always found this funny. There are truths to this, but truthfully, I tend not to this as a huge problem. Then again, I live in England lol......

January 12, 2012

I see women who are obviously on aid/support payments in Walmart buying $100s of dollars of videos/games for kids weekly. Men by and large won't do this. If a man has any say, he will pay for "straight" teeth ($2000-5000) for the kids. If a woman is in charge, the teeth must be "perfect" ($7500-sky's the limit). Could extend this principle into almost every category of consumer spending. Women spend more and more profligately.

Research shows that men spend more.

Single men without children spent $30,739 last year, about 18 percent more than single women without kids. And, of course, some stereotypes persist: men spent 65 percent more on electronics than single women; women spent 40 percent more on clothes and shoes. But not always, and not everywhere. Middle-income single women in Charlotte, N.C. spent almost as much as men did on gadgets; wealthy Houston women will see your fancy cell phone and raise you.

From personal experience, in families with a mom and a dad, it is almost always the dad buying the video games! I have yet to buy a single one for my kids.

January 12, 2012

Research shows that men spend more.

Single men without children spent $30,739 last year, about 18 percent more than single women without kids. And, of course, some stereotypes persist: men spent 65 percent more on electronics than single women; women spent 40 percent more on clothes and shoes. But not always, and not everywhere. Middle-income single women in Charlotte, N.C. spent almost as much as men did on gadgets; wealthy Houston women will see your fancy cell phone and raise you.

From personal experience, in families with a mom and a dad, it is almost always the dad buying the video games! I have yet to buy a single one for my kids.

I don't trust that bundle.com's statistics at all. I tried to click on the links in the article to get more info on the research and nothing came up. They don't give info on how they collect their data.

Can you find another, more credible source to back up your arguments?

January 12, 2012

http://blogs.wsj.com/ideas-market/2011/01/27/the-gender-of-money/

Here's an article from the Wall Street Journal, with a link to Forbes.

http://www.fool.com/personal-finance/saving/2003/10/03/the-spending-sex.aspx

Here's an article from the Motley Fool.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/126029/consumers-spending-january-last.aspx

Here's information from the Gallop folks that includes data on gender spending.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1153/is_n8_v111/ai_6712056/

Here's the figures for 1984 gender spending from the US Bureau of Labor.

That's just for a start. I have to go move clothes to the dryer (I'm such a good little wife.)

January 12, 2012

Research shows that men spend more.

Single men spend a significant % of their income on women, relationships and courtship; women don't spend equivalently. If this imbalance is taken into account, it must be also added to the disposable amount of "consumption" attributed to a specific person to get an accurate comparison of spending and consumption habits. So:

True amount men spend = (total amount spent) - (amount man spends on women)

True amount women spend = (amount woman spends)

True amount women consume = (amount women spend) + (amount men spend on her).

January 12, 2012

That's just for a start.

Start better. Or rather don't link the first four articles from a google search "men spend more" that cause me to waste my time reading typical female non sequiturs and out of context "arguments" in puff pieces written by intellectually stunted femjournalists desperately trying to disprove any fact that might limit women or portray their habits negatively. When pitching to large corpamerica, those same journalists will be lauding the higher purchasing power of women to sway corporate hiring and spending policies. So as the wind blows, go the stats in Femerica.

Some rather large percentage of men and women live together before marriage in this country. Some presumably significant percentage of women in those relationships stay at home and don't work, taking care of children from the relationship, preexisting children, or simply keeping house. I notice this rather significant slice of the population is not adjusted for in any of the cited articles. Wonder why?

Same faulty logic and weak contextualizing used to bolster the wage gap and glass ceiling lies.

Women spend more. Turn on any television and you will know this fact indubitably within an hour just from watching commercials. Disregard slanted "femjournalism."

Edited January 12, 2012 by dasein

January 12, 2012

Disregard slanted "femjournalism."

Also, disregard slanted, anti-woman "brojornalism," especially when it's oozing with bitter rage, self righteousness, self pity and ignorance.

January 12, 2012

double post

Edited January 12, 2012 by Mme. Chaucer

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