PJKino Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 OLD - it's a skill that requires practice. When I first started it, I was 20 lbs overweight and my profile picture was an unshowered pic of me in a wifebeater with a big red zit on my nose, uncombed hair and bloodshot eyes. I was skeptical about OLD so took it as a joke. It took some time to get response...lol. I looked at hundreds of male profiles, took a bunch of pics of myself, worked on the profile. After the equivalent of about a month of daily gym workouts of OLD work and analysis over several months (without the sweat), I was able to 1) only write the toptop female profiles in a large metro area, send out ten emails and get 70% response, 2) have nearly every woman I took out willing and pushing for sex very early. I'm 5'10.5" very average looking, but very smart and good at listening. You have to be -smart- to make this work, You are a very smart guy, wolf and can work this provided you are willing to learn how to really listen to women and understand what they want. This starts in the OLD contact process. They send out tells every minute, every sentence in the profile, that are like little clues as to how to get them thinking sexually. You can't create basic attraction out of thin air, but if you have passed the attraction test, it's all in listening/reading for and pushing buttons. If she likes cannibal porn, SO WHAT? Does it make her horny talking about cannibal porn in a certain way? NOW we are talking. I have faith you can pull this off. Once you learn it, it's like riding a bike and you will always know if you get lonely you can pull one or two off the net at will. It's very hard to put into words, but you will know you are doing it right when they start initiating makeout sessions in crowded restaurants, even pulling their clothes part off in public. I didn't even start this til 30, so you are ahead of the game. Time and practice. Height - Tired of seeing tall guys pile on male posters around here for griping about height. Have some human decency and shut the f up about height and women if you are over 6' tall. It really really rings like "let them eat cake" no matter how many don juan midget friends you have. There are plenty of women and regular height guys around to beat up on shorter posters here, your piling on too won't be missed, trust me. The most disgusting human being I've ever known: heroin addict 3 pack a day red smoker alcoholic, peed in his floor every other night, his apt smelled like a sewer bad dye job ugly, and not in a rugged way, just plain ugly completely self absorbed not funny, dull and boring bad breath... really bad cowardly, would run and hide at the first sign of trouble, not a standup guy not bright, not witty, not clever, ignorant of most every subject broke 6'5" always had a line of hot women waiting to be with him. Same with every other tall guy I've known in my life, other virtues notwithstanding. That's the truth about height and it's completely understandable that men gripe about this shallow, thoroughly vain female preference. Tall men accentuate high heels on a woman better and the equivalent of a "trophy" among competitive women is a tall guy. All the "protected" "stronger" crap is just that, made up crap. It's all vanity. It is funny how Men are supposed to be the shallow ones yet many women use men as an acesory she has to look good standing next to
PlumPrincess Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 OLD - it's a skill that requires practice. When I first started it, I was 20 lbs overweight and my profile picture was an unshowered pic of me in a wifebeater with a big red zit on my nose, uncombed hair and bloodshot eyes. I was skeptical about OLD so took it as a joke. It took some time to get response...lol. I looked at hundreds of male profiles, took a bunch of pics of myself, worked on the profile. After the equivalent of about a month of daily gym workouts of OLD work and analysis over several months (without the sweat), I was able to 1) only write the toptop female profiles in a large metro area, send out ten emails and get 70% response, 2) have nearly every woman I took out willing and pushing for sex very early. I'm 5'10.5" very average looking, but very smart and good at listening. You too, Brutus? I've always wondered why guys would put up such crappy pictures of themselves and whether it was an indicator for imbecility, because can't they see how awful their pictures are? You have to be -smart- to make this work, You are a very smart guy, wolf and can work this provided you are willing to learn how to really listen to women and understand what they want. This starts in the OLD contact process. They send out tells every minute, every sentence in the profile, that are like little clues as to how to get them thinking sexually. You can't create basic attraction out of thin air, but if you have passed the attraction test, it's all in listening/reading for and pushing buttons. If she likes cannibal porn, SO WHAT? Does it make her horny talking about cannibal porn in a certain way? NOW we are talking. I have faith you can pull this off. Once you learn it, it's like riding a bike and you will always know if you get lonely you can pull one or two off the net at will. It's very hard to put into words, but you will know you are doing it right when they start initiating makeout sessions in crowded restaurants, even pulling their clothes part off in public. I didn't even start this til 30, so you are ahead of the game. Time and practice. The most disgusting human being I've ever known: heroin addict 3 pack a day red smoker alcoholic, peed in his floor every other night, his apt smelled like a sewer bad dye job ugly, and not in a rugged way, just plain ugly completely self absorbed not funny, dull and boring bad breath... really bad cowardly, would run and hide at the first sign of trouble, not a standup guy not bright, not witty, not clever, ignorant of most every subject broke 6'5" always had a line of hot women waiting to be with him. That's so gross. Was he a drug dealer and the women were addicts?
PlumPrincess Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 DUST----She was not bad looking at all. 14 years younger than me, I'm 37. Some tatts and piercings, not really my type. Some daddy issues I think, her last two exes were 13 years and 21 years older. When she told me that one beat her up and the other raped her, I was like Yikes...CHECK PLEASE!!! Funny story.
Woggle Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 You too, Brutus? I've always wondered why guys would put up such crappy pictures of themselves and whether it was an indicator for imbecility, because can't they see how awful their pictures are? You have to be -smart- to make this work, You are a very smart guy, wolf and can work this provided you are willing to learn how to really listen to women and understand what they want. This starts in the OLD contact process. They send out tells every minute, every sentence in the profile, that are like little clues as to how to get them thinking sexually. You can't create basic attraction out of thin air, but if you have passed the attraction test, it's all in listening/reading for and pushing buttons. If she likes cannibal porn, SO WHAT? Does it make her horny talking about cannibal porn in a certain way? NOW we are talking. I have faith you can pull this off. Once you learn it, it's like riding a bike and you will always know if you get lonely you can pull one or two off the net at will. It's very hard to put into words, but you will know you are doing it right when they start initiating makeout sessions in crowded restaurants, even pulling their clothes part off in public. I didn't even start this til 30, so you are ahead of the game. Time and practice. That's so gross. Was he a drug dealer and the women were addicts? He might have been a dealer but I doubt these women were addicts. I know a similiar guy and he has doctors and lawyers and business women damn near fighting each other over him.
ThaWholigan Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 He might have been a dealer but I doubt these women were addicts. I know a similiar guy and he has doctors and lawyers and business women damn near fighting each other over him. My little cousin is a drug dealer and he gets lots of women who aren't addicts, even older women sometimes . And he has learning difficulties like me lol. I remember selling weed for about a week because I needed the money. Having to flip a oz for double wasn't too hard, but after I got what I needed, I never did it again. Hiding it from my mother was very difficult .....
Author Wolf18 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) OLD - it's a skill that requires practice. When I first started it, I was 20 lbs overweight and my profile picture was an unshowered pic of me in a wifebeater with a big red zit on my nose, uncombed hair and bloodshot eyes. I was skeptical about OLD so took it as a joke. It took some time to get response...lol. I looked at hundreds of male profiles, took a bunch of pics of myself, worked on the profile. After the equivalent of about a month of daily gym workouts of OLD work and analysis over several months (without the sweat), I was able to 1) only write the toptop female profiles in a large metro area, send out ten emails and get 70% response, 2) have nearly every woman I took out willing and pushing for sex very early. I'm 5'10.5" very average looking, but very smart and good at listening. You have to be -smart- to make this work, You are a very smart guy, wolf and can work this provided you are willing to learn how to really listen to women and understand what they want. This starts in the OLD contact process. They send out tells every minute, every sentence in the profile, that are like little clues as to how to get them thinking sexually. You can't create basic attraction out of thin air, but if you have passed the attraction test, it's all in listening/reading for and pushing buttons. If she likes cannibal porn, SO WHAT? Does it make her horny talking about cannibal porn in a certain way? NOW we are talking. I have faith you can pull this off. Once you learn it, it's like riding a bike and you will always know if you get lonely you can pull one or two off the net at will. It's very hard to put into words, but you will know you are doing it right when they start initiating makeout sessions in crowded restaurants, even pulling their clothes part off in public. I didn't even start this til 30, so you are ahead of the game. Time and practice. Height - Tired of seeing tall guys pile on male posters around here for griping about height. Have some human decency and shut the f up about height and women if you are over 6' tall. It really really rings like "let them eat cake" no matter how many don juan midget friends you have. There are plenty of women and regular height guys around to beat up on shorter posters here, your piling on too won't be missed, trust me. The most disgusting human being I've ever known: heroin addict 3 pack a day red smoker alcoholic, peed in his floor every other night, his apt smelled like a sewer bad dye job ugly, and not in a rugged way, just plain ugly completely self absorbed not funny, dull and boring bad breath... really bad cowardly, would run and hide at the first sign of trouble, not a standup guy not bright, not witty, not clever, ignorant of most every subject broke 6'5" always had a line of hot women waiting to be with him. Same with every other tall guy I've known in my life, other virtues notwithstanding. That's the truth about height and it's completely understandable that men gripe about this shallow, thoroughly vain female preference. Tall men accentuate high heels on a woman better and the equivalent of a "trophy" among competitive women is a tall guy. All the "protected" "stronger" crap is just that, made up crap. It's all vanity. This post is excellent and the type of advice I needed. It's actually realistic, not motivational speaker crap. Perhaps there is some kind of corner to round to learn how to play this game. The height thing is spot on. Being 6'4 will counter balance the most horrible traits imaginable, being 5'7 or 5'8 will counter balance the best traits as well unfortunately. This underestimate this or tell people who think this sucks is indeed like "let them eat cake". If you're tall you can get a girl almost no matter what, if you're a little shorter you have to be damn near perfect to get a girl to even think of you as a romantic partner (and even then, most of the time they won't budge). Edited January 13, 2012 by Wolf18
dasein Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 That's so gross. Was he a drug dealer and the women were addicts? Nah, he was a classic dry junkie chainsmoking cigs and drinking a fifth a day. If the guy had even a few redeeming qualities would have felt sorry for him. I only gave a partial list of bad traits btw, figured that was enough, lol.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 Nah, he was a classic dry junkie chainsmoking cigs and drinking a fifth a day. If the guy had even a few redeeming qualities would have felt sorry for him. I only gave a partial list of bad traits btw, figured that was enough, lol. Some of the very tall guys I've known who got girls, makes me want to say...what's the point in even trying? It's almost insulting. One guy I knew was 6'4 . The guy has no personality or wit at all, a beer gut, a face that was arguably below average, also runs at the first sight of trouble (I remember when I was around 18 or 19 and ran into some trouble, I thought this guy would have my back from his big talk but instead the only guy who stood by my side and fought to the end was ironically a 5'6 ginger who women bashed incessantly, found mr 6'4 can't-lose-a-fight-according-to-women 3 blocks away pale with fear eating at subway lol.) , used to wear wife beaters all the time despite having immense amounts of back hair and "shoulder pads"....well he had no problem getting women. First thing women would say to him "YOURE SOOoOOoOooo TALLL". If I had even one of those traits, I would've died a virgin. When the games so rigged sometimes I find myself asking "what's the point". My best friend is 6'3 and we have a running inside joke where every time we see a freakishly tall or retarded looking tall guy we do a woman voice and pretend to fan ourselves "sooooo hot". Then like 5 minutes later, their supermodel looking girlfriend comes out of the bathroom. My buddy is tall and has privaleged status with women for it too, but gets a real kick out of the girl obsession with tall guys , one time a girl picked a 6'6 guy with nothing to offer over him He always brags to me and my other not as tall friends how even if he breathed with his mouth and looked like dan akroyd, most women would still pick him over us just for being tall
betterdeal Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 The height thing is spot on. Being 6'4 will counter balance the most horrible traits imaginable, being 5'7 or 5'8 will counter balance the best traits as well unfortunately. This underestimate this or tell people who think this sucks is indeed like "let them eat cake". If you're tall you can get a girl almost no matter what, if you're a little shorter you have to be damn near perfect to get a girl to even think of you as a romantic partner (and even then, most of the time they won't budge). Height is attractive to a lot of women, it's true, but there's enough of them that go for other factors to keep you happy. You may have to have a personality, wit, a winning smile and all that jazz, but is it really so bad having those things anyway?
betterdeal Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) Bah. Double post. Edited January 13, 2012 by betterdeal
dasein Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 LOL. Well GL with whatever you decide about OLD, It's worth some time and effort to master because it's always there like a security blanket. Just takes a little positive feedback to get the ball rolling, and for me that took about two months of sustained effort and experimentation. Far less time than getting in excellent shape at the gym does.
phineas Posted January 14, 2012 Posted January 14, 2012 5'8" just put up my match account last night. Lot's of early 30's chicks looking at this 39 yr old's profile late on a friday night. So I KNOW they can't have that many options or they had a bad date that ended early. LOL! Had a 42 yr old wink at me. She must be desperate. j/k But, I did just turn 40 this morning so that could be a game changer. I also opted for an athletic cut polo shirt to show off my muscles instead of a shirtless pic. You can see the vein on my bi-cep!! I did a full body shot in jeans also to the side so they could see my butt. Then I had a buddy snap a pic of me at work in dress pants & a fitted shirt (had a meeting) tonight i'm going out with the guys so i'll get a shot NOT under fluorescent lights. I look so damn pale under them. Basically, I thought of myself as a car. I put up pics so you could see my chassis & listed my included options. LOL!
Dust Posted January 16, 2012 Posted January 16, 2012 Well I took my profile down a few hours ago, it wasn't going anywhere. I did meet a girl exchanged many messages with her, and am now talking to her via email. I am having a very good conversation with her but she is implying that she is only attracted to her archetype of a man ("hippies who listen to death metal from oregon with a certain look") . Im expecting the conversation to fizzle out soon. Stop being such a chatty Cathy. You need to get her in person so you can get your hands and lips on her! Why are you even letting her tell you about the type of guy she's into that always sounds ridiculous. Please don't tell me you asked. All you should say when she's done talking is something a long the lines of "I really enjoyed talking with you lets get togather over dinner" or just invite her to do what ever it is you want to do. Good job deleting your account though. Death to internet dating!
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