Woggle Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I have tried online dating in the past and I am convinced that many women on it even if they are attractive are the kinds who are incapable of actually forming a real relationship with a man. Either something turns men off about them or all the men they meet in real life are not perfect enough so they go online in a search for impossible perfection.
aj22one Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 The particularly dumb part of this relatively common female perception is that height matters about ten times less with regards to "protection" than bone density, yet women prefer a tall, thin guy to a short-but-stocky guy built like a football player even though the short-but-stocky guy has a natural advantage in the amount of punishment he can take and dish out over the taller, thinner guy. It's a weird, shallow preference. But I'm totally fine with it, the vast majority of people have weird, shallow preferences, including myself. Yeah I'm fine with it to. But in Wolf's case we're talking about a woman feeling like it's ok to complain that you can't find a decent man who is also a few inches taller than you. When your standards are such that you have limited options (most men are not 6'2" or taller) you will end up having dry spells. Same goes for any weird standards a man might have, my own included. You can have standards, but every qualifier you add just limits your options. I don't see why everyone got so offended.
Emilia Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 The fact of the matter is a woman 3 inches taller than a man would make an odd looking couple to shallow idiotic onlookers. She is not willing to overlook that because she has other options. Wolf is willing to overlook that. Therefore, he is less shallow. Wolf is by FAR the one closer to average height for his gender, yet she is rejecting him. Tall women are desirable by men in general (there are plenty who actually prefer a tall woman to a shorter one) so it's not surprising that Wolf wouldn't turn down one. They are usually seen as attractive, long limbs, graceful etc. Your point is completely off as a result.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I have tried online dating in the past and I am convinced that many women on it even if they are attractive are the kinds who are incapable of actually forming a real relationship with a man. Either something turns men off about them or all the men they meet in real life are not perfect enough so they go online in a search for impossible perfection. Very shallow rationalization that sounds contrived to not feel bad about limited response to online contact. How could anyone POSSIBLY know this? You can't, and simply basing that upon a small handful of examples wouldn't support it.
Woggle Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Very shallow rationalization that sounds contrived to not feel bad about limited response to online contact. How could anyone POSSIBLY know this? You can't, and simply basing that upon a small handful of examples wouldn't support it. I said that was my experience. I even met a few of these women and I saw why the real life world of dating did not work out. The same goes for men as well. Anybody can sign up for a dating site so it attracts all types.
jobaba Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Tall women are desirable by men in general (there are plenty who actually prefer a tall woman to a shorter one) so it's not surprising that Wolf wouldn't turn down one. They are usually seen as attractive, long limbs, graceful etc. Your point is completely off as a result. On the extreme end, a tall woman is like a short man. A woman over 6'0" is going to have trouble getting dates. But to a point (probably a 6'0" tall woman and over) you're right. Some guys like tall women. Some guys like short women. Who prefers short guys? Very few. It was more to explain the inequity towards short men in society.
FitChick Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 My advice to men at the end of this experiment: Ignore women; stay home and jack off to internet porn. (Someone has a very fragile ego.) If you went on three job interviews and didn't get a job, would you say, "Screw it! I'll just collect welfare." ??? The key to success in relationships or career is perseverance. Otherwise, stop complaining and become a homeless bum or a monk.
Dust Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 (Someone has a very fragile ego.) If you went on three job interviews and didn't get a job, would you say, "Screw it! I'll just collect welfare." ??? The key to success in relationships or career is perseverance. Otherwise, stop complaining and become a homeless bum or a monk. haha I like the monk sugestion. I said if things ever get bad enough I'll just join some brotherhood haha
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 Tall women are desirable by men in general (there are plenty who actually prefer a tall woman to a shorter one) so it's not surprising that Wolf wouldn't turn down one. They are usually seen as attractive, long limbs, graceful etc. Your point is completely off as a result. A woman that is almost 6 feet tall is not more attractive for it (not to most men atleast), trust me, it is the same as a guy whose a little shorter than average . But i'd overlook it in a heart beat if we had things in common. Women just wont budge on dumb issues like that . I've never felt less masculine or threatened by women who are tall...because my masculinity isnt fueled by someone elses height I can generally see the pros to a wide variety of features though. Tall girl? Long legs. Short girl? Petite and cute. Big boobs, nice. Small boobs, slightly preferred actually. Yet women seem to all have a pretty similar beauty ideal. A woman who is that height is approaching freakishly tall territory. If things were fair to both men and women, a woman like that would be about as attractive as a 5'3 guy (her male equivalent), but because all women are beautiful to someone no matter what they look like they get to reject perfectly good guys for their height. I understand some things are integral part of attraction for women, but really, WTF is the point of even trying when you find a girl who is more compatible than average and have them reject you over something stupid?
Dust Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I understand some things are integral part of attraction for women, but really, WTF is the point of even trying when you find a girl who is more compatible than average and have them reject you over something stupid? You can try with the same girl again if you like her that much. Send her a msg saying you should just hang out no pressure. Not to think about the damn height because she's letting internet dating get the best of her reducing things down to lists and such. Tell her most people look at you and think you're like 6'2 because you must exude some presence or something. Don't give up chump.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 (Someone has a very fragile ego.) If you went on three job interviews and didn't get a job, would you say, "Screw it! I'll just collect welfare." ??? The key to success in relationships or career is perseverance. Otherwise, stop complaining and become a homeless bum or a monk. If I got rejected for 3 job interviews for not having qualifications, I would work towards getting them. Right now i'm in a tough economic situation, hence why I'm going to school to get a college degree and be able to get better employment. WTF do I do about qualifications like you have to be a self made billionaire at 23 or the fact that 90% of women need a guy that's atleast 5'10/11 to feel "feminine". If you had to pass as many ridiculous qualifiers as men do, you and most other women would've given up a long time ago.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 You can try with the same girl again if you like her that much. Send her a msg saying you should just hang out no pressure. Not to think about the damn height because she's letting internet dating get the best of her reducing things down to lists and such. Tell her most people look at you and think you're like 6'2 because you must exude some presence or something. Don't give up chump. Nah, i'm sick of pressuring women into meeting me. It's an exercise in futility; a waste of my time. Screw her. No woman's worth the effort.
PlumPrincess Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 So you're saying you have zero physical preferences regarding your partner?
AD1980 Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Online dating is horrible for average dudes its bascially average or unattractive women shooting for the stars though i guess its not much different then out in the streets.. Plus being under 5'9 for a man online you might as well be a leper..Even the women who look pregnant but aren't have strict height requirements online.. Though i guess that would be to make her look smaller then she is which is an impossible feat..
Dust Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Nah, i'm sick of pressuring women into meeting me. It's an exercise in futility; a waste of my time. Screw her. No woman's worth the effort. I love pressuring women into things of course including meeting me. And yes screwing her is one of the reasons it's worth the effort. Don't you always find women look a lot better with their clothes off then on? Wouldn't you like to see her naked. Kiss and lick her any where you want. Get your hand all over her and do what it is you want to do to her. That should be the thing driving you on otherewise if that stuff doesn't interest you I agree whats the point. For me its the best times I'll ever have. If you stay away from online dating you'll be better off though.
PlumPrincess Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 By the way, maybe it's very important for you that your partner likes Italian cannibal movies, but maybe for the girl it's just a quirky piece of information about herself. And while you may think sharing the same taste in movies is important, the other girl thinks that sharing political beliefs is important.
Dust Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 By the way, maybe it's very important for you that your partner likes Italian cannibal movies, but maybe for the girl it's just a quirky piece of information about herself. And while you may think sharing the same taste in movies is important, the other girl thinks that sharing political beliefs is important. He's in a dark place plum princess he's given up. He needs that fire men get one they couldn't care less and just go for what they want. OLD was a mistake its to impersonal and he takes everything very personal.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 So you're saying you have zero physical preferences regarding your partner? 1) Don't be fat. Almost Everything else is debateable. The list pails in comparison with even an ugly womans. By the way, maybe it's very important for you that your partner likes Italian cannibal movies, but maybe for the girl it's just a quirky piece of information about herself. And while you may think sharing the same taste in movies is important, the other girl thinks that sharing political beliefs is important. [/Quote] I like people with radically different opinions on politics, religion, philosophy, etc, it makes conversation interesting. But apparently a lot of these snobby thick rimmed glasses NYC types just want an amen corner. I love pressuring women into things of course including meeting me. And yes screwing her is one of the reasons it's worth the effort. Don't you always find women look a lot better with their clothes off then on? Wouldn't you like to see her naked. Kiss and lick her any where you want. Get your hand all over her and do what it is you want to do to her. That should be the thing driving you on otherewise if that stuff doesn't interest you I agree whats the point. For me its the best times I'll ever have. If you stay away from online dating you'll be better off though. [/Quote] Women my age seem to be on a completely different mental plane than me, with radically different values. I would say the average woman is the polar opposite of me, and while this wouldn't matter if I was 6'4 and had an 8 pack with a convertible out front, its still weird how it got this way. They have their "reasons", but I will never understand various womanisms.
EnigmaticClarity Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I like people with radically different opinions on politics, religion, philosophy, etc, it makes conversation interesting. But apparently a lot of these snobby thick rimmed glasses NYC types just want an amen corner. amen corner I don't get why people get so wound up about philosophical differences either--I can only guess it's a fundamental lack of self-esteem, that if they're not around people they agree with and who agree with them, they get testy and flustered. Everybody has different paths through life to come to the realizations they've come to, and I always like trying to uncover how people came to their way of thinking. Sometimes when I take that journey that they've taken themselves, I change my own opinions, and that's a wonderful thing. Usually the people who get testy around people who don't think as they do I find have forgotten entirely how they came to that way of thinking, and that's part of the problem. If they remembered how they came to their point of view, they'd be better able to explain it to others and resolve the disparity in their own thinking with that of others who think differently. All three of my long-term relationships have been this way. The first two were conservatives and I'm moderate-liberal, and the only way I could keep them from wanting to strangle me--even while conversations were civil, objective, and open--was for them to avoid talking about politics. My current girlfriend is a self-described flaming liberal, and she's even worse--she can't talk about any esoteric topic she disagrees with someone about without getting emotional and pissed, doesn't matter if it's me or her parents she's talking to or if the topic is abortion or the weather, her tone rises whenever she disagrees with someone and keeps rising until she has to storm out of the conversation looking like she wants to beat the **** out of the other person .
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 Welcome to Amurrka, 300,000,000 lemmings who can't quite understand how someone can have a different opinion about politics or religion and not be some incompatible, pigeon holed stereotype. It's almost IMO like people in this fat and stupid country go out of their way to fulfill their stereotype, Nascar gun junkies and condescending liberal fags who are always talking about Ghanian Rice Cookies and carbon footprints. Whether it's the hick who gets his political views from Jesus, or an arrogant, myopic NYC liberal that gets offended by everything, people here like being surrounded only by those who agree with them and validate their ego.
FitChick Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 If I got rejected for 3 job interviews for not having qualifications, I would work towards getting them. If you had to pass as many ridiculous qualifiers as men do, you and most other women would've given up a long time ago. Qualifications don't always land you the job. There are plenty of over-qualified unemployed. It's personality as well. As a middle-aged woman, I have it tougher on the dating scene than younger women. I do what I can to look more attractive. It costs a lot of money but I look at it as an investment that I hope will pay dividends. I leave the rest to Fate -- BUT I don't give up!
Woggle Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 Welcome to Amurrka, 300,000,000 lemmings who can't quite understand how someone can have a different opinion about politics or religion and not be some incompatible, pigeon holed stereotype. It's almost IMO like people in this fat and stupid country go out of their way to fulfill their stereotype, Nascar gun junkies and condescending liberal fags who are always talking about Ghanian Rice Cookies and carbon footprints. Whether it's the hick who gets his political views from Jesus, or an arrogant, myopic NYC liberal that gets offended by everything, people here like being surrounded only by those who agree with them and validate their ego. I fully agree. I am probably more on the liberal side of things but both sides don't even care about the issues anymore. They just like seeing their side win like it is a football game. They let people get away with stuff that they would never let the other side get away with. Very few people anymore are critical thinkers who can really look at the world and form their own view. Both my wife and I have said that if we hit the lottery we are out of here. People here don't know how crappy this country has become.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 Qualifications don't always land you the job. There are plenty of over-qualified unemployed. It's personality as well. As a middle-aged woman, I have it tougher on the dating scene than younger women. I do what I can to look more attractive. It costs a lot of money but I look at it as an investment that I hope will pay dividends. I leave the rest to Fate -- BUT I don't give up! Sorry Fitchick, hearing you scold me is a joke. Even though you're middle aged, you will still be attractive to a whole wide variety of people than a guy like me whose a little below average height and making aroudn 14,000 dollars a year. It's true that qualifications don't always land you a job, but personality doesn't either. Who you know is how 90% of people get their job. I don't have any trouble being charming, insightful, confident, or making girls laugh in real life. But that doesn't mean they find me physically or financially attractive. And with that, there is nothing much else I can do . Don't compare your free ride with the torture of being male in the 99% in 21st century America. You're not married at your age because you didn't want it. I fully agree. I am probably more on the liberal side of things but both sides don't even care about the issues anymore. They just like seeing their side win like it is a football game. They let people get away with stuff that they would never let the other side get away with. Very few people anymore are critical thinkers who can really look at the world and form their own view. Both my wife and I have said that if we hit the lottery we are out of here. People here don't know how crappy this country has become. [/Quote] I'm with you. Amurrcans as a culture are sports fans, very different from cultures like say, Germany, where people prefer quiet individual consistency over memorable personalities that fight for a color. It's the consequence of a large, individualist, cosmopolitan, multicultural country IMO, people get their latent need to belong to a group via their politics or sports teams rather than their nation or community.
Author Wolf18 Posted January 11, 2012 Author Posted January 11, 2012 And what is it with all these guys (looked at them to see what kind of compettition was around) posing in digitally enhanced, shirtless model shots? Talk about trying too hard, guys like that ruin it for everyone else. Kind of like how all the small town businesses go under once a wal mart opens up and price gouges.
ThaWholigan Posted January 11, 2012 Posted January 11, 2012 I use POF. I have yet to get a date out of it. Only messages I get are from very large women and single mothers (a couple of them were hot though). I have gotten replies, but they fizzled out, because I did not know really how to engage them after. It definitely doesn't work in my favor . Will continue to try though. I get a lot of messages from white girls, but often I suspect it's for no other reason than that I am black
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