Taramere Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 Fact is , when women abuse men it's because we let them. Men as a group are mentally and physically stronger than women, women get away with everything because they got Uncle Sam swooping in on his white horse every time someone makes a harmless comment about some chicks ass at work or gives a deranged woman that likes to punch men an equality haymaker . People who like to punch others aren't quite right. We can agree on that. It's just a shame that you lack the ability and ethics, not to mention mental strength, to be able to to apply consistency and fairness in adhering to that principle. Evidenced by your decision to describe women who are violent towards men as deranged, in the same thread in which you've not only excused, but seem to be advocating, violence by men against women.
Taramere Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 What would Hitler do? He'd probably chuck wolf18 into a gas chamber for being too short. Too tasteless?
thatone Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) I've looked at profiles online for my area and it was scary. I knew a lot of the guys as well which would make me uncomfortable. My female friends tell such horror stories about OLD. One friend went on about 20 dates last year and each guy was worse than the one before. One guy revealed on the date that he was a witch and had powers. Another starting crying, on the date, about his ex wife. I have considered creating a profile in a larger city a couple hours away. That might be weird though. i don't see why not. i prefer it actually. it's more fun to date in a strange city, exploring new things and all that. i actually have a prospect i went to HS with in out of state that i've gotten back in touch with, going for a concert in a couple weeks and to spend a weekend. you should try it, no harm in the effort. as for 'where are the bitter women', they're blaming the nearest man for their problems, they don't have to do it anonymously online. Edited January 8, 2012 by thatone
Wolf18 Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 People who like to punch others aren't quite right. We can agree on that. It's just a shame that you lack the ability and ethics, not to mention mental strength, to be able to to apply consistency and fairness in adhering to that principle. Evidenced by your decision to describe women who are violent towards men as deranged, in the same thread in which you've not only excused, but seem to be advocating, violence by men against women. You didn't understand what I said. I said physically abusive women who would've once been slapped around into shaping up, today have carte blanch to do what they feel (and if men do anything in return they go to jail). Likewise, women who like to play games and "multi date" wasting everyone's time and money, men have the right to call them whores for the pain they cause with their fickle and shallow romantic life. He'd probably chuck wolf18 into a gas chamber for being too short. Too tasteless? [/Quote] Not really, women just aren't funny or research their humor. The Fuhrer was about the same height as was the typical man in the 1930's I wouldn't be surprised if American women would have supported throwing men under 5'10 into gas chambers though.
ascendotum Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I know plenty of bitter women. As for not being rejected, men generally act so abominably (or cluelessly) that the women dump them, so the women become "b1tches" and the men victims. Some of the most desirable women in the world have been dumped and cheated on. It isn't the exclusive domain of one sex. If I look back at all the people I've known over the years and split them into 4 groups based on their desirability and gender...the bitter ones/ones crapped on the most have have tended to be the top half of the women and the bottom half of the men. I agree about desirable women getting cheated on, Ive known quite a few awesome women who have been cheated on (some more than once). When your partner is also at the top of the gene pool, they have lots of brazen tempations, options + no waiting. Practically all the bitter women Ive known, are those those that have had plenty of options in their life and have always had men interested in them, rather they kept on choosing the style over substance guys (over and over). Some were formally sweet, heart of gold girls, who are now damaged goods from a guy's perspective. I know a few 40ish women now who are a little bitter because men arent going all out too woo them like in the past. The few women I've known who have really have been ignored by guys during their prime years were not the bitter ones. Disillusioned would be the word to describe them. They didnt make a 1/10 of the fuss of the women who were going out on lots of dates. Those women were frustrated as opposed to bitter or disallusioned, because they still had lots of options, just not the ideal ones for their liking. I thought I read someone else here mention how the women he knew that were single a long time never made any effort to change (fatalistist or belived in the just be yourself and your true love will eventually find you bs), and I certainly had that impression of the ones I knew.
Anela Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 If I look back at all the people I've known over the years and split them into 4 groups based on their desirability and gender...the bitter ones/ones crapped on the most have have tended to be the top half of the women and the bottom half of the men. I agree about desirable women getting cheated on, Ive known quite a few awesome women who have been cheated on (some more than once). When your partner is also at the top of the gene pool, they have lots of brazen tempations, options + no waiting. Practically all the bitter women Ive known, are those those that have had plenty of options in their life and have always had men interested in them, rather they kept on choosing the style over substance guys (over and over). Some were formally sweet, heart of gold girls, who are now damaged goods from a guy's perspective. I know a few 40ish women now who are a little bitter because men arent going all out too woo them like in the past. The few women I've known who have really have been ignored by guys during their prime years were not the bitter ones. Disillusioned would be the word to describe them. They didnt make a 1/10 of the fuss of the women who were going out on lots of dates. Those women were frustrated as opposed to bitter or disallusioned, because they still had lots of options, just not the ideal ones for their liking. I thought I read someone else here mention how the women he knew that were single a long time never made any effort to change (fatalistist or belived in the just be yourself and your true love will eventually find you bs), and I certainly had that impression of the ones I knew. I sort of fell into the "expecting a good one to find me" trap, because I know of people who have had just that happen to them. I didn't like partying, I was socially phobic and for a long while, agoraphobic (thanks to PTSD). Right there, issues. I knew I was considered sexy, but worried that nobody would actually love me. I'd been convinced by boys in school, that I was ugly (although my crush asked me out not long before we moved back over here - I guess he missed me when we came over here on vacation). I didn't trust anyone who told me I was pretty, or very pretty. Now I look back, and feel sad, because I wasn't stunning, but there was nothing wrong with me; I was attractive, sexy, and a kind and thoughtful young woman. I'm now 36, so I'm not ancient, but you wouldn't know that from the posts by some bitter men here. I've had self-esteem issues again, since I started to show my age a bit, and had my heart broken. I was/am disillusioned, especially because of the long wait, that I treated them well, and they treated me like hell. Someone told me that I was too pretty to hide, earlier last year, but I don't feel that way. Maybe things would have been different had I not been hidden away for so long, but I've noticed a pattern in which I usually attract almost bipolar men, and most of those who put the moves on me have been attached, which just pissed me off. they tend to be smart but weird, alternately thoughtful and very selfish, alcoholic or fans of drugs, thinking they have something special to get through to the world. depressive and self-pitying - even suicidal - but interesting and charming when they're feeling good. I'm not attracted to them, for all sorts of reasons, and when they go off on one of their "special" rants, there are times when I just want to ask them if they can't jus eat a hotdog and watch some baseball or something. they aren't employed either. the one was, until he got too depressed to take his job anymore. he was the one I was attracted to, until a multitude of things happened, and now I hate him.
Anela Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised if American women would have supported throwing men under 5'10 into gas chambers though. And you, with this attitude, are just what I was trying to avoid. I grew up around messed up relationships, and violent/sociopathic men - one who almost strangled me to death when I was five, and the sociopath who gave my mother a nervous breakdown (practically) - and I didn't want any messed up men/bad boys/whatever. I should have avoided the one guy, when I found out how much bitterness he was hiding, because he burned me. he claimed to love me, but had a really ugly way of showing that. I just wanted to meet a decent guy that I was also attracted to. Just before christmas, I had another attached man who matches my description above, sort of hit on me, and it pissed me off. I'm tired of men who have women who are in love with them (beauties, too), who love them with their flaws, and they don't appreciate them they go ahead and admit to feelings for me, and then create trouble between me and these women whose company I would prefer over the men (just as friends - I don't know why these guys hit on me - maybe because I let my guard down around them, seeing as they seem happily partnered?). wolf, You want to slap women around and call them wh0res to keep them in line? wtf? you would be a perfect fit for a middle-eastern country, although I would love to hear of things changing for women over there.
Anela Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I googled "I hate pasta" and got 32 million results. I googled "I hate pasta sauce" and only got 6.67 million results. I think this must mean that there are millions of people out there drinking Ragu straight from the bottle. Men are apparently WAY more popular than pasta though. Good to know. I just googled "I hate horses". As a horse-lover, I was pretty angry about what I found. Let's see what else is out there. Results for "I hate men" = 459,000. "I hate women" = 1,460,000. More than three times as much hate for women out there as there is for men. We win again! It really is sad, and scary.
Anela Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 I'm sorry that the reality of my life sounds depressing. I don't just go to bars. I'm not going to a bar tonight; it's a music venue. I do all sorts of social activities. My social life is very active. I'm going out of town next weekend, so maybe I'll get lucky there. I've also applied for jobs in other states, so I'm trying to do something about my situation. Don't apologize. It's a relationship board, and if someone doesn't want to read your posts, then they should just skip them.
Taramere Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) You didn't understand what I said. I said physically abusive women who would've once been slapped around into shaping up, today have carte blanch to do what they feel (and if men do anything in return they go to jail). No you didn't. You said Women do what they want because there's no consequences. You can't slap them or call them whores anymore to keep them in line, so women take this as carte blanche to do anything they feel."Women doing what they want" is a very vague statement. It could mean going out and getting a job in a field that is traditionally male dominated, or going on a hen night, or voting for a political party that their husband doesn't support...or all kinds of other things that have nothing whatsoever to do with violence. There are always consequences. If I were with a man who was physically violent towards me, there would be consequences for him. They wouldn't involve violence, unless I had no choice plus the ability to defend myself physically against his violence. However, there would be consequences. Depending on the situation, it might be that the only consequence would be that I would split up with him. If he were continuing to harass me, I'd threaten to report him to the police and expose him to his employer...then if he kept harassing me I'd make those threats good. However, what I wouldn't do would be to stay with a man like that and try to correct his behaviour. What you seem to be saying is that if somebody is a violent, abusive *******, you would want to stay with them and "fix" them with discipline. That's not much different from people who stay with violent partners because they believe they can "fix" them with love. Both come from the same, rather co-dependent, place. Not really, women just aren't funny or research their humor. The Fuhrer was about the same height as was the typical man in the 1930's Why would that make any difference? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/world-war-2/7961211/Hitler-had-Jewish-and-African-roots-DNA-tests-show.html People often hate most, about others, what they fear/can't accept about themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if American women would have supported throwing men under 5'10 into gas chambers though.No doubt some women in America exercise a height restriction in their dating choices. Some men who prefer women who are thin, have big boobs, or are a certain height, bone structure etc. It's pretty whacky to perceive lack of romantic interest in somebody as equating with hating them or wanting to kill them. Edited January 9, 2012 by Taramere
Wolf18 Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 "Women doing what they want" is a very vague statement. It could mean going out and getting a job in a field that is traditionally male dominated, or going on a hen night, or voting for a political party that their husband doesn't support...or all kinds of other things that have nothing whatsoever to do with violence. [/Quote] No, that is your interpretation. But I bet you would love it if men inexplicably started calling for violence against women who want to become bricklayers or vote for Nader There are always consequences. If I were with a man who was physically violent towards me, there would be consequences for him. They wouldn't involve violence, unless I had no choice plus the ability to defend myself physically against his violence. However, there would be consequences. Depending on the situation, it might be that the only consequence would be that I would split up with him. If he were continuing to harass me, I'd threaten to report him to the police and expose him to his employer...then if he kept harassing me I'd make those threats good. However, what I wouldn't do would be to stay with a man like that and try to correct his behaviour. What you seem to be saying is that if somebody is a violent, abusive *******, you would want to stay with them and "fix" them with discipline. That's not much different from people who stay with violent partners because they believe they can "fix" them with love. Both come from the same, rather co-dependent, place. [/Quote] This is the lame girl way of solving problems. Why would that make any difference? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ests-show.html People often hate most, about others, what they fear/can't accept about themselves. [/Quote] That article is just silly. Why does everything have to be Freudian or satirical? It's such a British mindset. Attack the man for his ideas and policies, saying Hitler was actually a self-hating black Jew is childish and not even worth addressing. If you want to have a tabloid or Freudian view of history instead of addressing the conditions that create dictators like him, don't complain when a guy like Hitler finds himself taking power once again. No doubt some women in America exercise a height restriction in their dating choices. Some men who prefer women who are thin, have big boobs, or are a certain height, bone structure etc. It's pretty whacky to perceive lack of romantic interest in somebody as equating with hating them or wanting to kill them. [/Quote] I was just joking with that statement, but while on the topic I do have an observation to make. If I were to make a crude joke about a girl on this forum being thrown into a gas chamber for being overweight you better believe I'd be reported by everyone, including you. But it's ok, as long as you target one of the safe groups, you'll be fine. I have no problem with tasteless jokes. In fact, I am the king of them. I have a problem with double standards and hypocrisy.
Taramere Posted January 9, 2012 Posted January 9, 2012 No, that is your interpretation. But I bet you would love it if men inexplicably started calling for violence against women who want to become bricklayers or vote for Nader I don't love that kind of thing, I just think it's part of the truckloads of drivel that fly about on the internet. I was just joking with that statement, but while on the topic I do have an observation to make. If I were to make a crude joke about a girl on this forum being thrown into a gas chamber for being overweight you better believe I'd be reported by everyone, including you. But it's ok, as long as you target one of the safe groups, you'll be fine. I report spam and the 52 ids troll because of the extent to which it clogs up the board and is bumped constantly to the degree that genuine discussion is quashed. I don't bait and report. I bait sometimes...but I don't then go on to report people's responses. I don't need to. I have no problem with tasteless jokes. In fact, I am the king of them.Oh, I didn't realise that. Congratulations!
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