Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Another nuance to consider is that healthy women do not last long in the dating realm. They are quickly pursued and removed from the potentials. What is left is, well, what is left. The same can be said for men, except for the variable of pursuit strength. If a man is circumspect or a weak pursuer, no matter his health otherwise, it will take him longer and he will be exposed to more of 'what is left'. Obviously, demographics/geographics come into play. As I opined in another thread, within ten miles of me, there are 19 women of *any* age on match dot com right now. Within ten years of me, age-wise, there are two, and they're both Hispanic. That's what one calls 'geographic'. I met a few single women around here while I was married who seemed healthy (one is in my journals) but they were gone within days/weeks. You know Carhill, I have heard you say this quite a lot and it's utter crap. I have been single for a few years now and I'm a really great girl. I'm kind, loving, sweet, happy, I enjoy being in a relationship and wish I was already married. I don't have a perfect body or a perfect anything but I do my best to take care of myself. But I have gotten rejected and I have rejected men. I am not at a level of "unhealthy" that I should be considered "damanged goods". While men like you get to sit on a throne and act like because your single, there are good reasons for it. I have met enough "unhealthy men" to know that "unhealthy men" exsist both single and coupled. Just as women do. If they didn't, no divorces or break up or relationship issues would ever occur. And they do, all the time. The assumption that only healthy people are in relationships and unhealthy people aren't is misguided. Considering the number of people that are divorced in our society today. Considering the number of people that make mistakes in their relationships and in the dating world. So please stop pushing the idea that "fantastic" girls are snatched up while "great guys' sit alone. It's just not true. Some awful girls get snatched up and some awful men get snatched up and sometimes fantastic people don't.
phineas Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 What do you think their just trolling POF for fast sex on a lark? LOL! They do it because it works. Why get dolled up & surround yourself with mouth-breathers when you can just search POF with your smartphone & have a tall 6-pack delivered? Face it, women are just as horny as guys. they just don't advertise it. You just gotta do a sweep of the site until you find them.
Author spiderowl Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 That sounds a bit cynical to me. Having a sex drive doesn't mean you want to pick the first guy with a six-pack on POF. Maybe it does work for guys, I don't know. It's not working for me.
carhill Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 So please stop pushing the idea that "fantastic" girls are snatched up while "great guys' sit alone. It's just not true.They do in my area and have for longer than you've been alive. It's one experience and not binding upon you. If I have to insert that disclaimer in every one of my thousands of posts on LS, I'll be happy to do it. Or, you can offer your one experience which I'll gladly accept. Your choice. Also, read the entirety of my posts before trying to put words into my mouth. Thanks.
phineas Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 That sounds a bit cynical to me. Having a sex drive doesn't mean you want to pick the first guy with a six-pack on POF. Maybe it does work for guys, I don't know. It's not working for me. So then, why are men seemingly wasting their time trolling POF for sex? Because it doesn't work & will never happen?
Woggle Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 No offense to any great single women here but I know few truly good women who would make great partners that stay single for long.
Dust Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I just wanted to tell all you guys I'm very excited and horny! Spiderbowl & Disenchantedly yours I'm comming por vous
Author spiderowl Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 Gee thanks! There are some advantages to anonymity online I guess.
Wolf18 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I'm tempted to post a picture of my schlong in this thread, but I've got 9 points worth of infractions.
colliejoanie Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 No offense to any great single women here but I know few truly good women who would make great partners that stay single for long. Ahem...........
Dust Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Gee thanks! There are some advantages to anonymity online I guess. Oh you better believe there are advantages! I'm tempted to post a picture of my schlong in this thread, but I've got 9 points worth of infractions. Please don't! Private msg them and ask them to look at your private album that you added them as contacts for. Seriously I do get a thrill out of showing myself naked to a hot girl but not over the net. Also I much prefer to look at them! I enjoy a good vagina shot, but I don't like it if its just the vagina. I like to see a body and face or as much of the body as I can see if she's bent over. Ahem........... You do seem great, but in all fairness woggle doesn't know you right. Plus you're only one girl so that fits with in a few.
Cypress25 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I don't know if decent guys exist any more or if they are all being fed this crap that women are not interested in a sexual relationship if they won't engage in sex chat from the start. Decent guys do exist. Sometimes it seems like they don't, because with the advent of online dating, the creeps can now contact any woman they want at any time. When your inbox is overflowing with creepiness, it seems like there are no non-creepy guys left. But there are, you just gotta find them. That sounds a bit cynical to me. Having a sex drive doesn't mean you want to pick the first guy with a six-pack on POF. Yeah, seriously. Just because a woman is horny doesn't mean she'll have sex with anyone. Being horny doesn't override the capacity for rational thought. Maybe it does for men, I don't know.
Wolf18 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Please don't! Private msg them and ask them to look at your private album that you added them as contacts for. Seriously I do get a thrill out of showing myself naked to a hot girl but not over the net. Also I much prefer to look at them! I enjoy a good vagina shot, but I don't like it if its just the vagina. I like to see a body and face or as much of the body as I can see if she's bent over.[/Quote] I was only joking. I would never post pictures like that on here. That's what the Harry Potter forum is for.
Dust Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I was only joking. I would never post pictures like that on here. That's what the Harry Potter forum is for. oh god... Harry Potter completely nude. Sadly I have seen those pictures.
Wolf18 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Decent guys do exist. Sometimes it seems like they don't, because with the advent of online dating, the creeps can now contact any woman they want at any time. When your inbox is overflowing with creepiness, it seems like there are no non-creepy guys left. But there are, you just gotta find them. Yeah, seriously. Just because a woman is horny doesn't mean she'll have sex with anyone. Being horny doesn't override the capacity for rational thought. Maybe it does for men, I don't know. Blame other women. Many women applaud when women like Madonna and Lady Gaga flash us their pierced nipples and flaunt their supposed promiscuous sex life as empowerment, instead of what it really is, a shortcut to fame and selling god awful music. The talking heads who instruct women on Television seem to think it's great too. When women seem to think this is a good thing, or say nothing to the contrary, men assume this is what you want. It's not fair to you (although making guys years before putting out is a little harsh lol) , but it's no less fair or different than the girls in this thread lamenting that all guys want is sex. Another possibility is the guys assume you're not going to respond to their messages so instead they choose to have a bit of fun, with nothing to lose and a lot to gain. I know I'm guilty of it, sometimes when I see a girl that's obviously out of my league I'll make a perverted sexual comment, just to have a giggle either on my own or with my friends . Men want sex, lighten up. You can't attack traditional femininity and behavior in the other thread, and then lament the downfall of traditional gentleman/chivalrous in this one. The collective American woman gives us no reason to behave that way, atleast personally speaking. Edited January 7, 2012 by Wolf18
Cypress25 Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Many women applaud when women like Madonna and Lady Gaga flash us their pierced nipples and flaunt their supposed promiscuous sex life as empowerment. Does anyone really applaud that? I must be out of the loop. When women seem to think this is a good thing, or say nothing to the contrary, men assume this is what you want. It's not fair to you (although making guys years before putting out is a little harsh lol) , but it's no less fair or different than the girls in this thread lamenting that all guys want is sex. That's why I say you've got to teach people how to treat you. Each person has the power to do that. So even if a guy expects sex on the 3rd date, that doesn't mean I have to have sex with him on the 3rd date. Other women might be OK with that, but he'll learn right quick that I'm not OK with it.
Woggle Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 They sell tons of records and are huge stars so some people are applauding it. We live in an era where women constantly talk about sexual empowerment but when a man happily obliges them all of a sudden we are back to old fashioned chivalry.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 No offense to any great single women here but I know few truly good women who would make great partners that stay single for long. Give me a break ith your "no offense BUT..." stuff Woggle. Why do you even begin your comments with that junk when you don't even mean it. Do you really think men are perfectly healthy minded relationship individuals that know how to pick the best female partners any more then women are perfectly minded healthy individuals that are able to pick the best male partners? Because only "healthy" people get into relationships? When did relationship status become a bench mark of your health and worth? Maybe if I was super hot and single I might have some issues. But I'm jsut a regular girl and not super hot. I so don't get the mentality that "only the good ones are taken". I have seen this mentality from men and women. When we all know liars, cheaters, abusers are fully able and capable of getting into relationships. No one even knows what really goes on within any relationship in the privacy of their own home. The fights they have, the issues, the tears, the happiness. Do people really think the face the put forward in the light of day among other people is all their relationship is? Do people really believe that only healthy great people are in relationships? Then what about all the people that get divorced after 25 years of marriage or all the people that cheat on one another? Look at you Woggle, you aren't all that healthy of a person when it comes to your views of women yet your married to a woman. Sorry but I have seen a lot of women castrate men and say "all the good ones are taken" and now I see guys saying the same stuff and it makes me scratch my head. Because to believe that all the good ones are taken would mean that no issues in relationships would ever happen, that no marriages would break-up and that people in relationships would have 30 minute sitcom lives where any of their issues were solved with rainbows and hugs. Sorry. That's not reality. Carhill, by the way, aren't you divorced?
xxoo Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 If guys are simply asking "do you want sex with me now because I'm horny", then fair enough, but if they are looking for a fun and potentially long-lasting relationship, they are sabotaging themselves. If they were hoping for a long-lasting relationship with you, they probably wouldn't say such things. They'd be on their best behavior, trying to make a great impression. A guy that makes a comment like this is doing you a favor. He's not that into you. Move on.
carhill Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Carhill, by the way, aren't you divorced?Yes, I am, legally, for about 13 months. Relevance? Remember, read the *entirety* of my posts before responding. You'll find in another thread that I commented that I have chosen not to date since becoming divorced. I did date briefly while separated. You'll find that dynamic in another of the very few threads on LS that I started. Your inferences are not lost upon me but such discussion is off-topic and decidedly personal. If you want to pursue it, use the PM system. Thanks. Edited January 7, 2012 by carhill
Author spiderowl Posted January 7, 2012 Author Posted January 7, 2012 If they were hoping for a long-lasting relationship with you, they probably wouldn't say such things. They'd be on their best behavior, trying to make a great impression. A guy that makes a comment like this is doing you a favor. He's not that into you. Move on. This is so true. I have no objection to the idea that guys want sex. We all want sex, well most. I am objecting to the way they are going about it. Why the hell don't the guys who are just looking for a quick shag go on more intimate dating sites and approach the women who are looking for the same thing? Why are they assuming it's OK to push this stuff on women who are quite clear about wanting a proper relationship? It seems to me like some form of sexual aggression.
ThaWholigan Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 This is so true. I have no objection to the idea that guys want sex. We all want sex, well most. I am objecting to the way they are going about it. Why the hell don't the guys who are just looking for a quick shag go on more intimate dating sites and approach the women who are looking for the same thing? Why are they assuming it's OK to push this stuff on women who are quite clear about wanting a proper relationship? It seems to me like some form of sexual aggression. Numerous reasons. Mainly being that like 90% of the women on those sites are fakes, and a good portion of them are actually escorts. It's very hard for some guys to find girls who are only looking for sex, especially if nobody wants to have sex with them . It will have to require serious re-conditioning for them to be able to get sex.
Woggle Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I say no offense because I don't want the exceptions to take offense and think I am talking about them. If what I say does not apply to you I am not talking about you.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Yes, I am, legally, for about 13 months. Relevance? Remember, read the *entirety* of my posts before responding. You'll find in another thread that I commented that I have chosen not to date since becoming divorced. I did date briefly while separated. You'll find that dynamic in another of the very few threads on LS that I started. Your inferences are not lost upon me but such discussion is off-topic and decidedly personal. If you want to pursue it, use the PM system. Thanks. I'm not trying to pry into business that isn't mine. I would never ask you to disclouse information to me, a total stranger, about the personal details of your marriage. I think you have missed my point. And I did read the entirety of your post. My point is that if all the perfect wonderful people who are completely relationship healthy were the only ones getting into relationships, wouldn't no one that got married get divorced then? Wouldn't there be no cheaters and liars in relationships? Abusers? Everyday unhealthy people get into relationships and stay in unhealthy relationships. Everyday men that don't like women and women that don't like men are in relationships. Knowing this, how can you make the assumption that only "good" women are in relationships. On top of making the inference that "good" men can be single more then women and be "good" relationship material?
Casablanca Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 I hate these guys...they give good guys online bad names...I wonder how many of my messages got deleted in a mass delete on accident because of guys like the OP described
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