lemonlegs Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) Most men will say that they prefer a woman without makeup, yet I feel like I could never get a typically "hot" guy simply because I despise wearing makeup. I'm a pretty girl, or so I've been told, and have no problems with men in general, but I feel as though I could never get with the really 'hot' guys because they constantly have the Barbie-looking Blonde who curls her hair and wears expensive make up everyday hanging off of them. PS., not that these 'Barbie' types aren't gorgeous, but you know? They're always dressed to the nines. I just don't do that ..... Edited December 28, 2011 by lemonlegs
Feelsgoodman Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Most men will say that they prefer a woman without makeup, yet I feel like I could never get a typically "hot" guy simply because I despise wearing makeup. I'm a pretty girl, or so I've been told, and have no problems with men in general, but I feel as though I could never get with the really 'hot' guys because they constantly have the Barbie-looking Blonde who curls her hair and wears expensive make up everyday hanging off of them. PS., not that these 'Barbie' types aren't gorgeous, but you know? They're always dressed to the nines. I just don't do that ..... If you want to get a "typically hot" guy, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to be "typically hot" yourself...
NYC-BigKat Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Most men will say that they prefer a woman without makeup, yet I feel like I could never get a typically "hot" guy simply because I despise wearing makeup. I'm a pretty girl, or so I've been told, and have no problems with men in general, but I feel as though I could never get with the really 'hot' guys because they constantly have the Barbie-looking Blonde who curls her hair and wears expensive make up everyday hanging off of them. PS., not that these 'Barbie' types aren't gorgeous, but you know? They're always dressed to the nines. I just don't do that ..... U say you'r just pretty but u want a super hot guy? Thats not right .
ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Most men will say that they prefer a woman without makeup, yet I feel like I could never get a typically "hot" guy simply because I despise wearing makeup. I'm a pretty girl, or so I've been told, and have no problems with men in general, but I feel as though I could never get with the really 'hot' guys because they constantly have the Barbie-looking Blonde who curls her hair and wears expensive make up everyday hanging off of them. PS., not that these 'Barbie' types aren't gorgeous, but you know? They're always dressed to the nines. I just don't do that ..... I am generally neutral on makeup, some girls love to wear it, and others don't. As for the "really hot" guys, I know a lot of good looking guys who have varied tastes in what they find attractive. I don't know how common the blonde phenomenon is, but I doubt it's as regular an occurrence. A lot of guys do prefer women who don't wear makeup, I find it to be attractive to see a woman's natural face, but I also find some girls with make up attractive too. You don't have to wear makeup, but I am positive that you can find ways to bring out your exterior beauty without doing things that are uncomfortable.
ditzchic Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 You tend to attract those similar to you and on comparable levels. If you're looking for a super hot guy, you should present yourself as a super hot girl. If you're looking for a cute guy, cute girl and so on....
zengirl Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Most men will say that they prefer a woman without makeup, yet I feel like I could never get a typically "hot" guy simply because I despise wearing makeup. I'm a pretty girl, or so I've been told, and have no problems with men in general, but I feel as though I could never get with the really 'hot' guys because they constantly have the Barbie-looking Blonde who curls her hair and wears expensive make up everyday hanging off of them. PS., not that these 'Barbie' types aren't gorgeous, but you know? They're always dressed to the nines. I just don't do that ..... What is a "really hot" guy? A guy who is manscaped, wearing the latest fashions who looks like he spends more money on his hair than you do and always seems to be coming from the gym? Well, I imagine those guys are with those gals because they have similar priorities (not mine, frankly, though I wear some makeup), and that makes sense. Or are you speaking of the most "naturally" good looking guy who's also not into primping or materialistic things like that? Basically: that whole culture is a subset of materialism. I would say plenty of men prefer natural beauty, assuming the girl is actually beautiful, and I've never dated a guy who didn't say I looked sexier without makeup on, personally, and I found them all quite attractive and my husband is definitely my idea of "really hot" (and I think objectively so as well, though not in a goes-to-the-gym-and-tanning-bed-and-wears-the-latest-fashions way, thank God). I think I'm quite fetching myself, and it's never hurt my dating life that I'm not all done up, though I do wear some makeup when working or going out and go to the salon on occasion, I'm not that far away from wash-and-go. tl;dr: So, a lot of it depends on which guys you mean.
Andy_K Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I like the natural look But let me clarify: This doesn't mean I will prefer no makeup to makeup. I just want what makeup there is to look natural. I don't like bright red lips on a pale face, or shadowy dark eyes with the lids covered in glitter. I prefer wavy hair to straightened hair, but really frizzy hair still isn't appealing.
phineas Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 The less make-up the better far as i'm concerned. I'll take a woman that is comfortable with very little make-up vs a chick that feels she needs to cake it on. But then, i'm more attracted to a woman's body & how lean / in shape she is as opposed to whether she is cute vs beautiful.
xpaperxcutx Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I'm an advocate for both. I go bare when I'm home or when I'm just out doing groceries or walking my dog. I usually just maintain with toner, lotion and spf for moisturizing. As for dressing up to the nines, I only do that for special occasions or for work. Since I do retail, it is imperative I dress and look professionally. I love the smokey eyes look for late night parties. I don't see make up as a be all, end all kind of thing. I just like to think color has the means of accentuating certain features of yourself.
kaleidoscope Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) My view is that I think makeup is supposed to enhance your natural beauty and when I see it done well I appreciate all the effort a woman put into it. If a woman doesn't wear makeup that's fine too. But when they do I feel like its something special they did for me. Its kind of like lingerie. If a girl wears her old pajamas or old beaten up panties to bed then fine its up to them. But its nice to see a little effort. A nice bra, nice panties go a long way. Same for guys putting in some effort. Time to get some new underwear dude to replace your ripped up ones! But in the end, just be yourself. If you're not a girly girl that's ok too. Some guys don't really care. Personally, I appreciate all the effort women put in very much :-))) Edited December 28, 2011 by kaleidoscope
ToothpasteLove Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I prefer a woman without the makeup.. as i once told the girl im dating.. i think you look most beautiful when youve just woken up and when youve just gotten out the shower.. she of course thought i was lieing and assumes she has to plaster on the makeup and pull her breasts up to her neck for me to take notice..
FitChick Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 It is seldom makeup per se that men dislike. A fresh faced natural beauty may be wearing far more makeup than someone who looks like a tart yet is wearing only heavy eyeliner and garish lipstick. It's all in the application and colors.
Disenchantedly Yours Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I'm in agreement with Fitchick. I will also add that I don't think most men know enough about make-up to say they like "natural" vs make-up. Alot of women learn to apply make-up that gives the illusion of "natural", when it's really a lot of make-up. While saying "I like the natural" look is nice, I don't think men realize the process of what women do to look a certain way. And if men really really liked "natural" look, then more porn would include that. And it doesn't.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 It is seldom makeup per se that men dislike. A fresh faced natural beauty may be wearing far more makeup than someone who looks like a tart yet is wearing only heavy eyeliner and garish lipstick. It's all in the application and colors. Agreed. Makeup should be applied in small doses and look as natural as possible. Makeup in itself isn't bad. It's just bad when it's smothered onto her face.
gaius Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Most women look better with appropriate makeup. Anythings possible, but people generally want a partner who puts in at least a similar amount of effort. If you're gonna do 1000 situps everyday then you want the girl who works hard on her outfits, hair and makeup.
mesmerized Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I'm in agreement with Fitchick. I will also add that I don't think most men know enough about make-up to say they like "natural" vs make-up. Alot of women learn to apply make-up that gives the illusion of "natural", when it's really a lot of make-up. While saying "I like the natural" look is nice, I don't think men realize the process of what women do to look a certain way. And if men really really liked "natural" look, then more porn would include that. And it doesn't. Agreed. What men say they want and what they actually want here are two different things. My guy friends always talk about "natural look" and they always end up going after the most dolled up girls.
Negative Nancy Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 that has been my experience too...i'm sure no man would for pass up these three in favor of the plain jane with no make up...it's just what men tell women to make them feel better http://i.imgur.com/kiHwr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2Dk2U.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ukGlx.jpg
zengirl Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 i understand your complaints but that is what's attractive to the majority...i'm sure no man would for pass up these three in favor of the plain jane with no make up...it's just what men tell women to make them feel better http://i.imgur.com/kiHwr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2Dk2U.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ukGlx.jpg I know plenty of men (who have no reason to spare my feelings) who aren't into that particular type. That's a type -- some guys types, sure, but there are loads of other types. Plenty of guys are more into waifs, girl-next-doors, or all sorts of other types. Granted, many wear makeup, but they wear a VERY different sort from those girls who look kind of fake and garish to the kind of men who don't like that type. Pretending there's a universal male type is a bit ridiculous, and I'm not even sure that's a highly sought after type. Most of the "most beautiful women" even on lists like Ask Men aren't that type. They're beautiful, yes, and often wear makeup or get their hair done, but not so obviously.
ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I know plenty of men (who have no reason to spare my feelings) who aren't into that particular type. That's a type -- some guys types, sure, but there are loads of other types. Plenty of guys are more into waifs, girl-next-doors, or all sorts of other types. Granted, many wear makeup, but they wear a VERY different sort from those girls who look kind of fake and garish to the kind of men who don't like that type. Pretending there's a universal male type is a bit ridiculous, and I'm not even sure that's a highly sought after type. Most of the "most beautiful women" even on lists like Ask Men aren't that type. They're beautiful, yes, and often wear makeup or get their hair done, but not so obviously. Some of those "most beautiful" lists are disappointing. Underlines what I personally believe, which is that everybody's tastes vary, both men and women. There will be conventional attractiveness, but generally it's not as black-and-white as people say. that has been my experience too...i'm sure no man would for pass up these three in favor of the plain jane with no make up...it's just what men tell women to make them feel better http://i.imgur.com/kiHwr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/2Dk2U.jpg http://i.imgur.com/ukGlx.jpg Meh, they're OK. Not my cup of tea, but then, I like black/mixed raced/latin girls more anyway.......
phineas Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Agreed. What men say they want and what they actually want here are two different things. My guy friends always talk about "natural look" and they always end up going after the most dolled up girls. Those guys who go for dolled up women are no different than women who say they want a nice guy. They say they want one thing but keep going after the exact opposite. I know the difference between a woman that only uses eye-liner & is ready to go in 10mins. and a woman that spends 40 minutes putting her face on. I married the former & am done having the latter leave smudges on my sheets. With some women I think they could save time by just borrowing the tools I used to skim-coat my dry-wall with plaster. Women who wear little to no make-up have described themselves to me as natural.
TheFinalWord Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I'm much more into the girl next door look...nice fitting jeans and cute t-shirt and I'm in heaven I don't know enough about make-up to say what's natural or not. I think by natural most guys mean that if you aren't wearing your make-up you don't look like a completely different person I know some girls who really overkill the make-up and it's a huge turn off. Like way too much dark eyeliner like they are trying to look like an Egyptian princess.
lululucy Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 You can be natural but still polished with a little bit of makeup (mascara, highlight and coloured lip gloss) -- that's the "natural look" guys like. Not 100% no makeup. Examples: Julia Roberts Halle Berry
Negative Nancy Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) sorry, but i'm not buying it. men are shallow and selfish, and what i've just found confirms it once again. i just stumbled across this study: "If couples are happy before the diagnosis, it appears that men are more likely to abandon wives who become seriously ill." “All these patients were couples when we met them, but we don’t know about pre-diagnosis marital conflicts that had been festering,” Dr. Chamberlain said. “But the striking part is with life-threatening illness, how often women are abandoned compared to men. That does not speak very well of my gender.” Divorce Risk Higher When Wife Gets Sick - NYTimes.com makes me never want to marry or be in a committed relationship... Edited December 28, 2011 by Negative Nancy
ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 sorry, but i'm not buying it. men are shallow and selfish, and what i've just found confirms it once again. i just stumbled across this study: "If couples are happy before the diagnosis, it appears that men are more likely to abandon wives who become seriously ill." “All these patients were couples when we met them, but we don’t know about pre-diagnosis marital conflicts that had been festering,” Dr. Chamberlain said. “But the striking part is with life-threatening illness, how often women are abandoned compared to men. That does not speak very well of my gender.” Divorce Risk Higher When Wife Gets Sick - NYTimes.com makes me never want to marry or be in a committed relationship... Why yes of course, we are all shallow and selfish to an infinite degree . A lot of men can certainly be shallow, true, but let us not generalize an entire gender - something that many women like yourself chastise us for doing. A significant portion of women can be just as shallow when it suits them.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 sorry, but i'm not buying it. men are shallow and selfish, and what i've just found confirms it once again. i just stumbled across this study: "If couples are happy before the diagnosis, it appears that men are more likely to abandon wives who become seriously ill." “All these patients were couples when we met them, but we don’t know about pre-diagnosis marital conflicts that had been festering,” Dr. Chamberlain said. “But the striking part is with life-threatening illness, how often women are abandoned compared to men. That does not speak very well of my gender.” Divorce Risk Higher When Wife Gets Sick - NYTimes.com makes me never want to marry or be in a committed relationship... Here's an interesting source: It’s the wife who files for divorce in about two-thirds of divorce cases, at least among couples who have children. http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com/faq/emotional/who-initiates-divorce-men-or-women.html A guy at my church got divorced in 2010. He was married to her since 1980. She initiated the divorce. But first, they went to a marriage counciller. He begged her to reconsider divorce and asked her what he could do to save the marriage. She wanted him to stop drinking, he did. She wanted him him to take her to Paris, he did. She wanted him to buy her a new car, he did. She still wanted a divorce. The marriage counciller took him aside and said, "Even though we don't get along, I have to admit you're doing everything right here. You're accepting your faults and never have you critcized her. This marriage is saveable. Why does she still want a divorce?" The problem was she had two divorced sister (they initiated it) and a divorced female lawyer (she initiated it) who urged her to get a divorce. The wife did. She got the house and a lot more stuff while the dude lives with his mom. He never was a bigshot before marriage but now he looks like a wreck with his crummy hair and clothes. Just because women are more likely to divorce men when they appear healthy doesn't make them better person. Where is the data for how divorce sometimes adversely affects a man's health emotionally and physically? LS posters have stated several times divorce is worse for men than women. I wouldn't be surprised if women wanted to wait until their husband got better because an ill husband might affect their huge divorce settlement. Your data didn't say how long women stayed with men after the men got better. Like you, I never wanna marry or be in a committed relationship...:sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:
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