FelicityShot Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I have been noticing on LS that there are a lot of trolls who are kind of welcomed - for amusement, to let off steam, just because being in the know about being deceived makes you feel good after a bout of betrayal. Perhaps there is a link between deception here and IRL? So to know about LS deception is....Kind of .... empowering? So I was thinking, is LS good training for spotting deception? Or does it make you cynical? And why do we like the trolls? (If we do.....).
Spark1111 Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Spark here....and call me naive, but I take all posters at face value, trolls or not.... More cynical? I don't think so.... So if you were a pompous ass, an hysterical drama queen, an arrogant SOB politician and I just played it as it lays..... You exposed yourself for what you are/were to my reading audience. And I rejoice that I took you, and endorsed you at face value and....the cat came out of the bag....
Author FelicityShot Posted December 28, 2011 Author Posted December 28, 2011 Spark here....and call me naive, but I take all posters at face value, trolls or not.... More cynical? I don't think so.... So if you were a pompous ass, an hysterical drama queen, an arrogant SOB politician and I just played it as it lays..... You exposed yourself for what you are/were to my reading audience. And I rejoice that I took you, and endorsed you at face value and....the cat came out of the bag.... How funny. I was replying to a post of yours at exactly the same time. I was never a troll myself, so I am taking 'you' as general you here. And I agree with the evaluation. Except we missed the humour...
daisy love Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I have been noticing on LS that there are a lot of trolls who are kind of welcomed - for amusement, to let off steam, just because being in the know about being deceived makes you feel good after a bout of betrayal. Perhaps there is a link between deception here and IRL? So to know about LS deception is....Kind of .... empowering? So I was thinking, is LS good training for spotting deception? Or does it make you cynical? And why do we like the trolls? (If we do.....).I'm not a troll. Ppl just like to call me one because they don't like what I'm doing and they don't like what I say. I'm no more a troll than you are a sock. I have no idea what the rest of your post is asking.
Author FelicityShot Posted December 28, 2011 Author Posted December 28, 2011 I'm not a troll. Ppl just like to call me one because they don't like what I'm doing and they don't like what I say. I'm no more a troll than you are a sock. I have no idea what the rest of your post is asking. Well, to go a bit deeper with you, I would ask if you had come across a troll here that you wanted to comment on? Maybe you haven't? I wasn't actually talking about you. Although I saw that you caused some 'amusement'. You are talking about experiences of being accused as a troll. Guess that's relevant - in a way
Fabian Montenegro Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Entertainment. some just do it with more flair and humor than others. Live a life of colour and the world will become a more colourful place. People will often call me a flaming queen as soon as they meet me. I don't exactly know what they mean by that but it sounds like a lot of fun.
MyApology Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 Hi Felicity, I wouldn't necessarily say I enjoy the trolls. I do find it very amusing. It is amusing to me when the daisy/mellisa/swimming freely/apology types come on here spouting drivel and elementary crafted tales of love, lust, gigolos, perfect flaccid penus', fake rings, perfect mm who jet off and f their soon to be ex's. Yes, I find it comical. I read here daily, very rarely respond, but the made up stories is a welcome break to the truly sad, heartbreaking stories of most. Doesnt make me cynical. They're fakers and trolls in life, some just do it with more flair and humor than others. Well, it is sad that people actually find these trolls parachuting in and ruining threads enlightening or amusing. My story is real and I have come here for answers to questions in which I cannot indulge to those closest to me. Way too much critism and not many trully genuine posters on the OM/OW board. Oh well, it is a message board, cannot put too much stake in it. Hmmm maybe you should follow up your thoughts to why you think coming on to a thread I started and ruining it for the original poster as something you feel entiltled to. I do not go around LS putting others down, but I have had to defend my threads to the point, I feel posting about my life and my thoughts is dangerously unhealthy to my being and my point for posting in the first place. Pat yourself on the back, if you wish, if being nasty and hurting others makes you feel like the bigger person. Trolls and hurtful words cause me stress. Amusement has it's limits.
SoMovinOn Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I don't enjoy the trolls and I don't find them amusing. There are real people behind these posts with real issues. Nothing amusing about that. If one doesn't have something of value to add, they have no need in being here.
Ms. Red Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I don't enjoy the trolls and I don't find them amusing. There are real people behind these posts with real issues. Nothing amusing about that. If one doesn't have something of value to add, they have no need in being here. I agree. I also want to add to your last sentence in saying that IMO if someone smells a troll and has nothing of value to add (to the trolls thread) they have no need in posting. They are just adding to the nonsense and giving the "assumed" troll what they want. One thing that bugs me is when a supposed troll posts something that everyone suspects and they start posting back to the said troll and sound worse than the supposed troll. So to know about LS deception is....Kind of .... empowering? IMO yes, that is why people feel compelled to answer the supposed trolls and give them what they want. They want to show the troll that they won't be fooled and they are above them and seeing their deception. It really doesn't make sense to me. I think ignoring is a better show of empowerment.
TaraMaiden Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 i just report it and leave it to the mod's decision. simple.
Author FelicityShot Posted December 28, 2011 Author Posted December 28, 2011 For me there is a funny side to some of the trolls. Those who start their own threads, and are clearly vamping it up. It's up to us if we reply. But those who send shock waves through a thread where someone is obviously in pain - well that's not nice, is it? Because there are folks here who have experienced a lot of pain and confusion it is easy to get wound up in a story, and then feel a fool when it turns out to be 'creative writing'. Sometimes a troll thread reveals some interesting points that wouldn't have come up otherwise. I think it's helpful if more experienced posters who spot a possible troll say so on the thread. So that those who are feeling overly emotional don't get caught up in some bulls**t. I am definately more cynical than when I first came here. I believe roughly 50% of the stories/posters. It is interesting to see the responses above - we all have a different take - and that's life.
Owl Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 This: I don't enjoy the trolls and I don't find them amusing. There are real people behind these posts with real issues. Nothing amusing about that. If one doesn't have something of value to add, they have no need in being here. and: i just report it and leave it to the mod's decision. simple. Pretty much sum it up for me.
MissBee Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 (edited) I have been noticing on LS that there are a lot of trolls who are kind of welcomed - for amusement, to let off steam, just because being in the know about being deceived makes you feel good after a bout of betrayal. Perhaps there is a link between deception here and IRL? So to know about LS deception is....Kind of .... empowering? So I was thinking, is LS good training for spotting deception? Or does it make you cynical? And why do we like the trolls? (If we do.....). I don't like trolls, so much as they exist and are amusing by the sheer ridiculousness they bring to the table. I love a good laugh. I don't think LS is good training to spot deception, in terms of trolls helping you to do that. Trolls are usually pretty obvious. I think it may help in terms of reading other people's stories of deception and noticing patterns...then being able to apply that in real life to situations you come across that seem very fishy and similar to some described here. LS doesn't make me cynical...life itself can do that...thus leading you to LS sometimes. Edited December 28, 2011 by MissBee
skylarblue Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 When I first started posting on LS, I was accused of being a troll. It was even speculated that I was a bitter BS posing as an OW to try to make OWs look as awful as possible. Some people posted not to respond to me because I was a troll. I didn’t even know what a troll was. Personally, I don’t like trolls. I find nothing comical in a made up situation that garnishes sincere or genuine replies and it doesn’t make me cynical or keener. It just makes me think of a person with nothing better/more to do with their time that also has some kind of issue/issues. If I felt a thread/post was from a troll, I simply wouldn’t respond, period. No response=no thrill for the troll.
nofool4u Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 And why do we like the trolls? (If we do.....). What is your definition of a troll?
Author FelicityShot Posted December 28, 2011 Author Posted December 28, 2011 What is your definition of a troll? Don't really have one. Probably quite broad, but not to include merely playing devil's advocate if the intention to solve a discussion issue is sincere. Someone who invokes fake scenarios/stances in order to create an emotional response. Or a discussion even. Someone pretending to be invested when they are not, they are merely 'playing'. What's yours?
Hazyhead Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 There are posters here whereupon reading through their threads I'm left with the response 'Hmmm...' I guess we'll never know for sure (unless they state) how much is real/how much is invented, but they certainly incite interesting conversation. I try not to get involved, personally, because I find it hard not to come across as cynical, and if they were genuine, that wouldn't be helpful. I wonder how many of them, if trolls, have never experienced the truly painful side of being involved in an affair situation (from whichever angle), because I find it hard to imagine that one could speak lightly, or dishonestly about it, if so. Attention seeking behaviour? I don't know. I feel badly for them if they believe what they write to be true/realistic/acceptable behaviour.
SoMovinOn Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I wonder how many of them, if trolls, have never experienced the truly painful side of being involved in an affair situation (from whichever angle), because I find it hard to imagine that one could speak lightly, or dishonestly about it, if so. Attention seeking behaviour? I don't know. I feel badly for them if they believe what they write to be true/realistic/acceptable behaviour. I think some of the trolls come here just to find fodder for their postings on other forums. They believe they are on a "mission".
Hazyhead Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think some of the trolls come here just to find fodder for their postings on other forums. They believe they are on a "mission". Provoking posters to react, you mean? Yeh, I can see how that would be exciting for some. Bit of a sad way to get your kicks. (yes, I realise tha tinges of irony coming from someone who had an affair with a married man, but still! )
donnamaybe Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Oh yeah. There are trolls AKA sock puppets on this forum. It is ridiculously obvious to most of us, but some are painfully obtuse unfortunately.
SoMovinOn Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Oh yeah. There are trolls AKA sock puppets on this forum. It is ridiculously obvious to most of us, but some are painfully obtuse unfortunately. Trolls are not AKA sock puppets. Two totally different things. A troll is someone who posts with the only intention being to incite a negative reaction or argument. Trolls often post single line, snide comments and attempt to disguise them as questions. A sock puppet is another identity created for the purpose of deception. On LS, sock puppets are often created in order to maintain some anonymity. It is unfortunate people simply can't rely on others respecting that.
donnamaybe Posted December 30, 2011 Posted December 30, 2011 Trolls are not AKA sock puppets. Two totally different things. A troll is someone who posts with the only intention being to incite a negative reaction or argument. Trolls often post single line, snide comments and attempt to disguise them as questions. A sock puppet is another identity created for the purpose of deception. On LS, sock puppets are often created in order to maintain some anonymity. It is unfortunate people simply can't rely on others respecting that. One routinely on LS would have to be extremely out of touch if they don't realize that certain posters constantly create socks for the pure purpose of rudely trolling without risking their original LS handle.
nofool4u Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 Don't really have one. Probably quite broad, but not to include merely playing devil's advocate if the intention to solve a discussion issue is sincere. Someone who invokes fake scenarios/stances in order to create an emotional response. Or a discussion even. Someone pretending to be invested when they are not, they are merely 'playing'. What's yours? Someone who posts fake scenarios(or even real ones) to piss people off. i.e. Someone who goes into the Infidelity section and tells a tale of an affair and how wonderful it is. Not asking for help, just posting to take a stab at people that have been betrayed.
standtall Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 A few questions. If one were a troll, would they admit or recognize it in themselves, or are they like mentally ill people that think that everyone else has the problem? Does the poster have to have/had major relationship problems of their own to be qualified to post? There is a good chance that I'm a troll. I read these forums to make me appreciate my life and spouse more. I must admit I do find some amusement in reading some of the self inflicted disasters as they unfold in slow motion.
Owl Posted January 3, 2012 Posted January 3, 2012 A few questions. If one were a troll, would they admit or recognize it in themselves, or are they like mentally ill people that think that everyone else has the problem? Does the poster have to have/had major relationship problems of their own to be qualified to post? There is a good chance that I'm a troll. I read these forums to make me appreciate my life and spouse more. I must admit I do find some amusement in reading some of the self inflicted disasters as they unfold in slow motion. Do you post threads or comments that are deliberately intended to provoke, incite, inflame, or otherwise designed with the intent to create conflict and strife on the forum? Clearly there's no "requirement" that someone have been in a bad relationship to post here...although without that experience, you'd have to question the relevence of the poster's point of view. If you're not posting advice from experience...where is the "wisdom" of your advice coming from? But regardless...obviously no one can be REQUIRED to have that experience to post here. You're only a troll if you're only here to "fan the flames" and create strife, to provoke dispute and disagreement. If you're here with an intent to honestly provide useful advice or to gain useful insight...that's not "trolling".
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