Feelsgoodman Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 I've never slept with a prostitue, but I don't have a problem with the concept of paying for sex. You pay to have your hair cut, you pay for someone to prepare and serve you a meal when you got to a restaurant, you pay your lawyer to prove your innocence in court, you pay your doctor to cure you when you get sick...honestly, I don't see why having sex is any different. You are paying a professional for a specific service. If prostitution was legal and not subject to moral condemnation, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of men would be seeing prostitutes. Imagine that, instead of going to some seedy, illegal brothel located in a bad part of town and filled with shady pimps and drug addict whores, you could go to a conveniently located, clean establishment that looked like an upscale spa and was staffed with friendly, courteous, professional workers. Imagine that instead of having to hide the fact that you patronize prostitutes, you could freely discuss it with your friends, coworkers, parents, etc. without being judged. Imagine that there were strict health safety regulations in place, requiring both patrons and employees to pass a medical test. If all of the above was true, why wouldn't a man use professional services. If all you want is to get laid (rather than finding a girlfriend), it's a lot simpler, quicker, less frustrating and probably cheaper than trying to "pick up" women. The reason why prostitution is outlawed and morally stigmatized has mostly to do with women and their innate desire to control men through sex. If sex with good looking women was legal, easily obtainable and available to everyone, women (and especially average and below average looking women) would have a lot less sway over men.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Posted December 28, 2011 If prostitution was legal and not subject to moral condemnation, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of men would be seeing prostitutes. That's the way it is in Latin America. In Argentina, there's no moral condemnation. I regularly heard guys talking about going to prostitutes as casually as if they were talking about going to the barber.
kaylan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 *Goes into bro mode* Woah. OP, my dude, homie, real talk, listen. Youre not a bad lookin' cat. No homo lol Seriously I was just in the thread about natural look/beauty and saw your first post...I read your comment without looking at the username and thought "well this dude looks like he could get those blond bombshells anyways" And then I was surprised when I looked at the username and it was you. Come on guy, you can get girls dude. I know you can. And you live in freaking London. You should be cleaning up with women of all races since theres less stigma about interracial dating in the UK vs the US. Dude, if I ever visited London, I KNOW I could wingman you on a night out at the bar and club and find you a nice girl to start a friendship or casual fling with.
lululucy Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Youre not a bad lookin' cat. No homo lol Seriously I was just in the thread about natural look/beauty and saw your first post...I read your comment without looking at the username and thought "well this dude looks like he could get those blond bombshells anyways" And then I was surprised when I looked at the username and it was you TRUTH. I was going to say the same thing actually.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 *Goes into bro mode* Woah. OP, my dude, homie, real talk, listen. Youre not a bad lookin' cat. No homo lol Seriously I was just in the thread about natural look/beauty and saw your first post...I read your comment without looking at the username and thought "well this dude looks like he could get those blond bombshells anyways" And then I was surprised when I looked at the username and it was you. Thank you. Although I'm sure my face isn't the problem, it's always nice to have a compliment, I'm genuinely appreciative . Come on guy, you can get girls dude. I know you can. And you live in freaking London. You should be cleaning up with women of all races since theres less stigma about interracial dating in the UK vs the US. Dude, if I ever visited London, I KNOW I could wingman you on a night out at the bar and club and find you a nice girl to start a friendship or casual fling with. TBH, If I didn't overthink and overanalyze my life so much, I probably could quite easily. In fact, I wouldn't be living at my mothers either, a lot of things would be different.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 honestly bro, just do it, just freaking do it, get it outta your system! you will experience sex and learn some things too, do et! Won't be the same. It's not like being so irresistible yet reserved, so much so that she literally jumps on you. I'm not saying that I will be like that, but doesn't that sound much better to you?
TaurusTerp Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Won't be the same. It's not like being so irresistible yet reserved, so much so that she literally jumps on you. I'm not saying that I will be like that, but doesn't that sound much better to you? That will happen once out of like 100 women. You're almost always going to have to initiate. Way of the world.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 That will happen once out of like 100 women. You're almost always going to have to initiate. Way of the world. Yeah, I know lol, I have no problem with that
Nexus One Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Don't do it. Save yourself up for your first girlfriend. You're only 23, so you have plenty of time. Resist the pressure from your brothers and keep your honor, save it for real love. You'll be glad you did.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 if you are so deadset on not doing it then you should not have posted a thread on it I posted it because there are other male virgins here who are always given advice from posters, and I wanted to see how favorable the escort option is, and whether it is generally an accepted route for them by others. Needless to say, apart from a couple of guys, it's not. Especially not by women .
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I actually don't find it unacceptable … but I think you will probably get a lot more benefits if you have your first sexual experience under circumstances that are not commercial.
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 That's the way it is in Latin America. In Argentina, there's no moral condemnation. I regularly heard guys talking about going to prostitutes as casually as if they were talking about going to the barber. There is plenty of moral condemnation for sex workers in Argentina.
KathyM Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think most women would be repulsed by a man who had been to prostitutes. It reeks of pathetic loser who doesn't value women or value himself.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 I think most women would be repulsed by a man who had been to prostitutes. It reeks of pathetic loser who doesn't value women or value himself. I wouldn't go to that extreme lol. I think this is what I was alluding to when I talked about the lack of empathy for a man in this position. As I've said, it's not something I would do, it's not my thing, but I don't see a man who would decide to do so in the same position as a loser. He probably thinks he is a loser just off the simple fact that he is unable to even get a woman attracted to him even if he tries. Every man can learn, but not every man has the same level of fortitude to withstand. I actually don't find it unacceptable … but I think you will probably get a lot more benefits if you have your first sexual experience under circumstances that are not commercial. In contrast, one who doesn't care.......I agree btw. I think it would be better looking for a more organic experience. I can see myself getting towards it in the near future, just need to sort a few personal things out.
samsungxoxo Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think most women would be repulsed by a man who had been to prostitutes. It reeks of pathetic loser who doesn't value women or value himself.I would definitely be grossed-out. No self-respecting person with values would settle for someone like that.
musemaj11 Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think most women would be repulsed by a man who had been to prostitutes. It reeks of pathetic loser who doesn't value women. What? Prostitutes aren't free!
Red Arremer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I would recommend going to an escort *once*, if only to drive the point home that sex isn't this super magical and amazing thing you've probably built it up to be in your head. I sort of feel like that's something you can't be told and that you have to experience first-hand. Just once though, after that it's served its purpose.
Red Arremer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 And yes, if anyone asks you lost your virginity in some random one-night thing at a pub. That goes for whether you end up going to an escort or not, though.
Ross MwcFan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think the clinical experience would depress the hell out of you. You are only 23 Making it to his late 20's or older and still being a virgin may depress the hell out of him even more. I think if you want to do it, ThaWholigan, then do it. Personally I don't see anything wrong with it. As for other people, some will think it's fine, others wont do. Just do what you want to do.
El Brujo Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I am being badgered by my (younger) brothers to get laid, and they are suggesting chipping in on an escort. I have refused more than once but I have since thought about it. Now, It's highly unlikely that I will do this, but lets lay out my position and talk hypothetically.... You're a 23 year old autistic man. You have become better at talking to girls but still don't get anywhere. You are considered good-looking but alas this is not enough. You have expanded beyond your comfort zone and taken up hobbies in order to improve your social standing. Yet you are highly sexually frustrated. You are conscious of your incompetence with the opposite sex with no sign of a lucky break. And you have £300 to spare*. Escort still an unacceptable option?? *- I don't have any money lol I don't think autism has anything to do with it, and I speak as a 44-yo male virgin (I also happen to be a 300-lb giant). Hell, with all the stigma attached to virginity thanks to bad-mouthing by promiscuous people, I'm surprised escorts aren't refusing to service male virgins.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 I'm glad I made this thread really. It's interesting to see the responses to such a predicament. I like to see advice that is a bit more elaborate than "just go and do it man", which might be good, but isn't necessarily the easiest thing in the world for someone to go and do, unless one has the advice and knowhow already and just needs to apply themselves.
Red Arremer Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 Hell, with all the stigma attached to virginity thanks to bad-mouthing by promiscuous people, I'm surprised escorts aren't refusing to service male virgins. Are you kidding me? Male virgins are a HUGE source of their business, they're not going to give that up for some silly stigma.
Ross MwcFan Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 I think most women would be repulsed by a man who had been to prostitutes. It reeks of pathetic loser who doesn't value women or value himself. You'd expect the guy to remain a virgin for the rest of his life then? Have some sympathy and understanding please. I also wouldn't say it means he doesn't value women or himself either. When I wanted to see an escort, I still valued women. As for whether I valued myself or not though, I have no idea.
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Posted December 29, 2011 I don't think autism has anything to do with it, and I speak as a 44-yo male virgin (I also happen to be a 300-lb giant). Hell, with all the stigma attached to virginity thanks to bad-mouthing by promiscuous people, I'm surprised escorts aren't refusing to service male virgins. No way. I'm sure that male virgins and socially awkward men who women are repulsed by make escorts way more money than bored married men or whoever it is women think pay escorts for sex.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 29, 2011 Posted December 29, 2011 You'd expect the guy to remain a virgin for the rest of his life then? Have some sympathy and understanding please. I also wouldn't say it means he doesn't value women or himself either. When I wanted to see an escort, I still valued women. As for whether I valued myself or not though, I have no idea. I know dudes who have banged a prostitute who value women less than dudes who have. I've read about escorts being wined and dined at fancy restaurants with roasted duck and given perfume for gifts in addition to their regular fee. Sounds like those guys who wined and dined those escorts didn't value women either.
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