Male virgin = Seeing an escort??

[ThaWholigan]

Getting an escort won't help you with regular women really. And you can't really say that you're not a virgin anymore in public because you won't be able to reveal how you lost it.

That being said ... it will demystify the act of sex for you and reveal it as a sloppy, messy bodily act instead of some orgasmic act while floating on a heavenly cloud.

 

And if you do get a really hot one, it may make you less intimidated by average women.

 

So, if you're REALLY nervous around regular women, it might be worth a shot.

 

This is exactly my point. Unless I am paying for a dozen GFEs, it's not worth the hassle. My major problem is discretion: I would have to hide it and lie about it because of the stigma. I don't want that, so I'd rather not do it.

[Feelsgoodman]

I say go for it. A lot of guys I've met have said they improved their skills at talking to women by spending a lot of time with strippers and prostitutes. If it doesn't improve your skills, at least you get laid.

 

If you're going to get an escort, why not go with one of the Russian ones? Or the Scottish ones? I know a guy from Brighton who said English women are the least clean and the least attractive of all the women in the UK. So I don't know if you wanna go with one of them.

Can't comment on their hygiene, but in terms of physical attractiveness, British gals are definitely at the bottom of the totem pole...at least compared to other Europeans. I'm guessing the limited genetic material available on the islands has caused a fair amount of inbreeding over the centuries.

[ThaWholigan]

Can't comment on their hygiene, but in terms of physical attractiveness, British gals are definitely at the bottom of the totem pole...at least compared to other Europeans. I'm guessing the limited genetic material available on the islands has caused a fair amount of inbreeding over the centuries.

 

Good thing my family isn't British (Afro-Caribbean/South American FTW)

 

Honestly most of the girls that I have liked are of some other heritage. A lot of British white girls are interested in me though, but they only like me because I'm black lol. I am not interested in any of them really, not my cup of tea (unless they work on babestation lol)

Edited December 28, 2011 by ThaWholigan

[TaurusTerp]

If the virginity itself is a barrier to you acting normally around women, then perhaps I'd consider it. Otherwise, there is no point. You won't become a better kisser/lover through an experience with a prostitute - anything they say is likely to be BS.

 

Also, stop reading PUA material (2.5 GBs? Dude, come on. That's absurd). Read one or two if you must, and go out and start trying to talk to women. You will crash and burn at first, and then get over it. If you must, you can always write down your experiences and analyze them for where you went wrong. Reading more material does not help.

[somedude81]

I say just do it.

 

All adult men, should know what sex with a woman is like. Of course there are some exceptions, but they are few.

 

Pick a hot one, make sure you aren't limited to one orgasm, (some pro's have that rule) and just enjoy yourself.

 

If anybody asks, you lost it to a girl you met in a pub and can't even remember her name.

 

Someone who's done it. Might be worth reading the whole thread.

 

Damn I miss sex.

 

If it wasn't so expensive in the US, I wouldn't have gone so long without.

 

Oh well, I chose to build a computer instead of getting a prostitute and I don't regret my decision.

Edited December 28, 2011 by somedude81

[Emilia]

 

I take it as a compliment that despite my social problems, my autism and my awkwardness, people I know are still utterly gobsmacked and shocked that I am not successful with women

 

You must be good looking

[Oxy Moronovich]

Can't comment on their hygiene, but in terms of physical attractiveness, British gals are definitely at the bottom of the totem pole...at least compared to other Europeans. I'm guessing the limited genetic material available on the islands has caused a fair amount of inbreeding over the centuries.

Agreed.

 

It must be the climate and the culture though. An Englishman who lives in the Pacific Northwest said the women there, especially Seattle, remind him of UK women: a lot of huge breasts, drab clothes, and washed out looks. UK culture also places a strong emphasis on the dull, plain Jane, stick figure Kiera Knightley look.

 

I've seen women with British ancestry in Australia, NZ, and the Americas who look quite attractive. And don't have that ragged look of women on the British Isles. I think when British women get to a different culture and country their looks improve noticeably.

 

By the way, it's also interesting that Wholagin is Latin American but doesn't like prostitutes. Latin Americans visit prostitutes all the time. I'd surmise it's the UK puritan culture that makes him dislike prostitutes. If he was in Latin America, he'd probably have had sex with prostitutes dozens of times already.

[ThaWholigan]

Agreed.

 

It must be the climate and the culture though. An Englishman who lives in the Pacific Northwest said the women there, especially Seattle, remind him of UK women: a lot of huge breasts, drab clothes, and washed out looks. UK culture also places a strong emphasis on the dull, plain Jane, stick figure Kiera Knightley look.

 

I've seen women with British ancestry in Australia, NZ, and the Americas who look quite attractive. And don't have that ragged look of women on the British Isles. I think when British women get to a different culture and country their looks improve noticeably.

 

By the way, it's also interesting that Wholagin is Latin American but doesn't like prostitutes. Latin Americans visit prostitutes all the time. I'd surmise it's the UK puritan culture that makes him dislike prostitutes. If he was in Latin America, he'd probably have had sex with prostitutes dozens of times already.

 

I'm not latin american, I'm Guyanese. Guyanese people are either black or Indian. It's in South America, but the closest I get to latin ancestry is Portuguese/Brazilian/Native American Ancestry that goes waaaaaay far back

[verhrzn]

This is just one female opinion, but something to consider: I'd far prefer an older male virgin over a guy whose only sexual experience is prostitutes/escorts.

 

There are women out there who actually don't place so much emphasis on a man's experience... I myself don't care at all. If you remain a virgin, you also have a choice of spinning it as a moral positive, which will attract more traditional females who are also "saving" themselves, or are in a similar boat of not knowing how to interact with the opposite sex at a younger age.

[ThaWholigan]

If the virginity itself is a barrier to you acting normally around women, then perhaps I'd consider it. Otherwise, there is no point. You won't become a better kisser/lover through an experience with a prostitute - anything they say is likely to be BS.

 

Also, stop reading PUA material (2.5 GBs? Dude, come on. That's absurd). Read one or two if you must, and go out and start trying to talk to women. You will crash and burn at first, and then get over it. If you must, you can always write down your experiences and analyze them for where you went wrong. Reading more material does not help.

 

I don't read all of it, I have lots of information about everything (maths, science, pua, persuasion, business, marketing, music, audio engineering, filming, writing, acting etc). I like to collect information, it's something I do. PUA is just information to me, I don't read all of it.

[Untouchable_Fire]

Agreed.

It must be the climate and the culture though. An Englishman who lives in the Pacific Northwest said the women there, especially Seattle, remind him of UK women: a lot of huge breasts, drab clothes, and washed out looks. UK culture also places a strong emphasis on the dull, plain Jane, stick figure Kiera Knightley look.

 

I live in Seattle and it's pretty much a mini San Francisco culturally. The women here are far from drab. Few are of English decent, the most common are Dutch Scandinavian, Euro mutts, and Asians.

 

If you like Asian girls... Seattle will be heaven because they make up about 20% of the dating scene.

 

In terms of drab clothing... the weather is often cold and rainy. The clothing often reflects that, but it doesn't make the women look drab.

 

Also... there is so much money here it's crazy. Women walk around with designer everything!

[ThaWholigan]

You must be good looking

 

So I have been told. I've met varying responses to my looks, but often I'm told that naturally I am good looking, I just need to be fit and get more style .

 

This is just one female opinion, but something to consider: I'd far prefer an older male virgin over a guy whose only sexual experience is prostitutes/escorts.

 

There are women out there who actually don't place so much emphasis on a man's experience... I myself don't care at all. If you remain a virgin, you also have a choice of spinning it as a moral positive, which will attract more traditional females who are also "saving" themselves, or are in a similar boat of not knowing how to interact with the opposite sex at a younger age.

 

Thanks, I was unlikely to even do it anyway. I am not trying to save myself though, so I won't lie and say that I am, however, some horny nights aside, I am quite comfortable with my virginity. I am aware that the problem lies elsewhere. I don't think ridding my virginity will necessarily help me, it is a reconditioning process that I must undergo.

 

It's not even that I don't like prostitutes/escorts, it's just not personally the way I would like to begin my sex life.

[Oxy Moronovich]

I live in Seattle and it's pretty much a mini San Francisco culturally. The women here are far from drab. Few are of English decent, the most common are Dutch Scandinavian, Euro mutts, and Asians.

 

If you like Asian girls... Seattle will be heaven because they make up about 20% of the dating scene.

 

In terms of drab clothing... the weather is often cold and rainy. The clothing often reflects that, but it doesn't make the women look drab.

 

Also... there is so much money here it's crazy. Women walk around with designer everything!

Wow. You must be in the only Seattle dude who said the women don't look drab. I've only visited but I've met Seattle dudes from real life and online who said the women look drab. Here's just one quote where people said Seattle women look drab:

 

I think Seattle-ites are particularly frumpy. I've seen a lot of women around here who look like they're wearing the pup tent they just went camping with.

 

And just for the record I.despise.hoodies. They're great if you're 19 and late for class in the rain, but other than that they are the baggiest most unflattering slovenly sweatshirt ever. Nobody looks good in a hoodie.

 

And the orthopedic footwear around here is unsightly. Rocksport, birkenstock, some kind of exotic Swedeish reformed tire--they're all ugly. Pair those clunkers with a hoodie worn over a pup tent and you have a fashionbly dressed vagrant Seattle-ite.

 

Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/seattle-area/365803-dressing-down-trend-america-general-seattle-2.html#ixzz1hqgTsqdO

[Oxy Moronovich]

It's not even that I don't like prostitutes/escorts, it's just not personally the way I would like to begin my sex life.

I've known two dudes who were virgins and approaching 30. They said when they were in their early 20s, getting with a prostitute was repulsive. But now that they were going to be 30 soon, the idea didn't give them any anxiety. And they had sex with escorts because they felt it was better than being 30 yr old virgins.

 

It's possible you could find yourself approaching 30 and still a virgin. By that time, I wouldn't be surprised if losing your virginity to an escort was actually appealing to you.

[ThaWholigan]

I've known two dudes who were virgins and approaching 30. They said when they were in their early 20s, getting with a prostitute was repulsive. But now that they were going to be 30 soon, the idea didn't give them any anxiety. And they had sex with escorts because they felt it was better than being 30 yr old virgins.

 

It's possible you could find yourself approaching 30 and still a virgin. By that time, I wouldn't be surprised if losing your virginity to an escort was actually appealing to you.

 

Maybe so, but I'm not 30 yet so I'll continue to resist....

[musemaj11]

You will have a different aura around yourself once you have lost your virginity. Trust me.

 

I was totally a different person after I lost my virginity. I felt different about myself. I no longer felt 'inadequate' and felt more confident. I no longer felt severe desperateness and curiosity about sex.

 

Its in my belief that its best for a male to experience sex as early as possible. Sexual experience for a man in dealing with women is like working experience in the working world. The more and earlier the better off you will be.

[samsungxoxo]

This is just one female opinion, but something to consider: I'd far prefer an older male virgin over a guy whose only sexual experience is prostitutes/escorts.

In addition, a man can get an STD from prostitutes/escorts. The irony is they are the same men demanding a decent woman with low numbers or virgin.

 

If you're looking for something you're not and then complained when you're not getting it, then look at yourself in the mirror. I wouldn't wanna date a so called ''stud'' nor consider him as ''marriage material''. Too many men put too much emphasis on who is ''gf or wife material'' so guess what? I expect the same in return. I'm looking for a future husband material, not a manwhore you would sleep with hookers anytime the opportunity arouse. I do care about the #. If it's too much such as 20, it's disgusting to me.

There are women out there who actually don't place so much emphasis on a man's experience... I myself don't care at all. If you remain a virgin, you also have a choice of spinning it as a moral positive, which will attract more traditional females who are also "saving" themselves, or are in a similar boat of not knowing how to interact with the opposite sex at a younger age.

Up till late 20's I don't mind. But if he were way much older (ex: late 30's) then we have a problem. It means there is a bigger issue other than virginity and I at that point I would wonder what happened. Edited December 28, 2011 by samsungxoxo

[Oxy Moronovich]

In addition, a man can get an STD from prostitutes/escorts. The irony is they are the same men demanding a decent woman with low numbers or virgin. .

Yes, men demand a decent woman with low numbers or virgin when they are looking for a long-term relationship. If it's just sex, most men don't care about a woman's past. The OP is mainly about losing his virginity. It's not about a longterm relationship.

 

In addition, you can get an STD from regular girls too. For some reason, people like to believe a guy is a lot less likely to get an STD from a regular woman. I have a difficult time believing that.

 

Plus, a prostitute is a lot less likely to get pregnant and name you as the father, and start demanding child support. Don't forget children are an STD too.

[FitChick]

There are dating websites for autistics. Join one.

 

If you were even considering a prostitute, I'd suggest going one step further and having a sex therapist recommend a surrogate. At least they are trained to deal with sexual dysfunction and are not just in it for the money.

[ToothpasteLove]

Sex is supposed to be fun and enjoyable.. is it really going to be as enjoyable when youve got to hand over a large amount of cash for it..

[Dust]

Let your younger brothers go get themsleves a hooker if they want one so bad. Don't be their entertainment, live your own life.

 

Male virgin does not equal seeing an escort for many reasons. What you want is to find a girl you connect with and have sex with her. Not some girl who could give you disease and aat most will give you something only physical.

 

You don't have Autism either. Don't live your life through some diagnosis. If all you wanted was sex you could just go to a bunch of bars till you found a women hot to trot. You want a girlfriend.

[Oxy Moronovich]

Sex is supposed to be fun and enjoyable.. is it really going to be as enjoyable when youve got to hand over a large amount of cash for it..

Ask that question to the millions of men (and women) who have paid for sex.

[ThaWholigan]

Let your younger brothers go get themsleves a hooker if they want one so bad. Don't be their entertainment, live your own life.

 

I discussed this with the brother I live with, he simply said not to worry about it too much, and that he wasn't entirely serious. My bro who lives with my dad still offers though . I am not entirely bothered. I made up my mind not do it ages ago, I made the thread to see exactly what people thought about a male virgin using that route. I'm not surprised by the answers.

 

Male virgin does not equal seeing an escort for many reasons. What you want is to find a girl you connect with and have sex with her. Not some girl who could give you disease and aat most will give you something only physical.

 

Agreed. She doesn't have to be the one, I just have to like her as a person as well as physically.

 

You don't have Autism either. Don't live your life through some diagnosis. If all you wanted was sex you could just go to a bunch of bars till you found a women hot to trot. You want a girlfriend.

 

I have certainly not lived through my diagnosis. My diagnosis was only 2 1/2 years ago. And I am certain I have it, there is no other possible explanation for the vast majority of problems I have had. That said, I have done tremendously well to overcome the worst of them if I say so myself (the hypersensitive hearing/touch/sight, social retardation, poor verbal reasoning, dyspraxia etc, all problems I had growing up, I was dx. twice, as well as a statement at 5 years old). Being autistic is not a big part of my personality, it is just a challenge I have had to overcome. The only credence it has in my life is that it impaired me from being a more social person growing up. It forced me to try harder though.

 

And wanting a girlfriend is slightly accurate, but I am not consumed by desperation (otherwise the hooker would look real tempting lol).

[Emilia]

A friend of mine has a FWB (ie non paying) arrangement with a former prostitute. I know her, she is friendly, obviously screwed up and continuously attention seeking but not a bad person. I think she was quite a high class hooker, now she is some kind of a madam.

 

My friend has the opposite issue, he fetishises women and isn't able to form even short term relationships with them because he doesn't see them as people. He has slept with hundreds but you will only hear him talking about their breasts or whatever, never about something they do as breathing, walking human beings.

 

Obviously not suggesting this would happen to you if you slept with one , just the other side of the spectrum.

[ThaWholigan]

A friend of mine has a FWB (ie non paying) arrangement with a former prostitute. I know her, she is friendly, obviously screwed up and continuously attention seeking but not a bad person. I think she was quite a high class hooker, now she is some kind of a madam.

 

My friend has the opposite issue, he fetishises women and isn't able to form even short term relationships with them because he doesn't see them as people. He has slept with hundreds but you will only hear him talking about their breasts or whatever, never about something they do as breathing, walking human beings.

 

Obviously not suggesting this would happen to you if you slept with one , just the other side of the spectrum.

 

I know quite a few guys like that. They are extreme personalities, much like the guys who only befriend girls and never ever pursue them sexually, becoming passive.

 

I am very confident that I will not become that kind of guy.....although there is nothing wrong with liking breasts in my opinion