ThaWholigan Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am being badgered by my (younger) brothers to get laid, and they are suggesting chipping in on an escort. I have refused more than once but I have since thought about it. Now, It's highly unlikely that I will do this, but lets lay out my position and talk hypothetically.... You're a 23 year old autistic man. You have become better at talking to girls but still don't get anywhere. You are considered good-looking but alas this is not enough. You have expanded beyond your comfort zone and taken up hobbies in order to improve your social standing. Yet you are highly sexually frustrated. You are conscious of your incompetence with the opposite sex with no sign of a lucky break. And you have £300 to spare*. Escort still an unacceptable option?? *- I don't have any money lol Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think the clinical experience would depress the hell out of you. You are only 23 Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think the clinical experience would depress the hell out of you. You are only 23 I don't know about that, I have a reputation of being emotionally detached . Still, it is not an experience I would like to have admittedly, which is why I haven't done it. I did give it serious thought, and even looked on the internet for escorts who do the whole GFE stuff. I eventually decided against, it would be easy to waste money on something like that without doing the hard work of being able to get it normally. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I think ultimately you would find it unsatisfying and it wouldn't get you closer to your goal of establishing healthy loving relationships. Link to post Share on other sites
YaOldBuckaroo Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am being badgered by my (younger) brothers to get laid, and they are suggesting chipping in on an escort. I have refused more than once but I have since thought about it. Now, It's highly unlikely that I will do this, but lets lay out my position and talk hypothetically.... You're a 23 year old autistic man. You have become better at talking to girls but still don't get anywhere. You are considered good-looking but alas this is not enough. You have expanded beyond your comfort zone and taken up hobbies in order to improve your social standing. Yet you are highly sexually frustrated. You are conscious of your incompetence with the opposite sex with no sign of a lucky break. And you have £300 to spare*. Escort still an unacceptable option?? *- I don't have any money lol I wouldn't go for the escort. Who knows what you'll get from them lol. You may seem to know how to talk a female, and maybe impress her to improve your social value, but it seems you fail at building sexual attraction. You've got to learn the right stuff. Here's a short yet extremely helpful article that'll show you the right way to go about attracting a female: Max Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 I wouldn't go for the escort. Who knows what you'll get from them lol. You may seem to know how to talk a female, and maybe impress her to improve your social value, but it seems you fail at building sexual attraction. You've got to learn the right stuff. Here's a short yet extremely helpful article that'll show you the right way to go about attracting a female: Max I know. I have like 2.5 GB worth of Dating/PUA material on my computer, I have every article I could wish for. It doesn't mean much if you cannot apply it yet, it needs work. Thanks for your message, it was encouraging. I am not as shy as I used to be, but I have no seduction skill. I do lack confidence at this particular moment, but that is because I need to get back into a routine of making money and getting fit, as well as all the things I need/want to do (music career, business etc). I'm not doing anything right now so I don't see how anyone will want to date someone who isn't doing anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I know. I have like 2.5 GB worth of Dating/PUA material on my computer, I have every article I could wish for. It doesn't mean much if you cannot apply it yet, it needs work. Thanks for your message, it was encouraging. I am not as shy as I used to be, but I have no seduction skill. I do lack confidence at this particular moment, but that is because I need to get back into a routine of making money and getting fit, as well as all the things I need/want to do (music career, business etc). I'm not doing anything right now so I don't see how anyone will want to date someone who isn't doing anything. Well it's easier to find someone quality if you are doing something that others find interesting. Why aren't you doing anything at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites
Pizzaman81 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I am being badgered by my (younger) brothers to get laid, and they are suggesting chipping in on an escort. I have refused more than once but I have since thought about it. Now, It's highly unlikely that I will do this, but lets lay out my position and talk hypothetically.... You're a 23 year old autistic man. You have become better at talking to girls but still don't get anywhere. You are considered good-looking but alas this is not enough. You have expanded beyond your comfort zone and taken up hobbies in order to improve your social standing. Yet you are highly sexually frustrated. You are conscious of your incompetence with the opposite sex with no sign of a lucky break. And you have £300 to spare. Who now has some strange STD because you decided to get with an escort *- I don't have any money lol ^fixed Ten characters Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 27, 2011 Author Share Posted December 27, 2011 Well it's easier to find someone quality if you are doing something that others find interesting. Why aren't you doing anything at the moment? I realize that. I'm not doing anything because I don't actually have any money & have no job. And being on the dole is not exactly the most confidence boosting thing in the world. I have already booked myself in to go back and study (Media & Business Applications at Birkbeck) so I'm happy to have made a start. I have to produce some albums for rappers as well as record my own as well, I want to make a start on that asap. The opportunities are there though thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I realize that. I'm not doing anything because I don't actually have any money & have no job. And being on the dole is not exactly the most confidence boosting thing in the world. I have already booked myself in to go back and study (Media & Business Applications at Birkbeck) so I'm happy to have made a start. I have to produce some albums for rappers as well as record my own as well, I want to make a start on that asap. The opportunities are there though thankfully. No it's not, been there myself in deepest recession. Birkbeck is a good college and there are lots of girls too. You might be able to join some student sports club cheaply/for free to keep fit. Don't forget to apply for their student card, very often you get the same benefits as full time students - I'm assuming you will be studying part time Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I say go for it. A lot of guys I've met have said they improved their skills at talking to women by spending a lot of time with strippers and prostitutes. If it doesn't improve your skills, at least you get laid. If you're going to get an escort, why not go with one of the Russian ones? Or the Scottish ones? I know a guy from Brighton who said English women are the least clean and the least attractive of all the women in the UK. So I don't know if you wanna go with one of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Emilia Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I say go for it. A lot of guys I've met have said they improved their skills at talking to women by spending a lot of time with strippers and prostitutes. If it doesn't improve your skills, at least you get laid. If you're going to get an escort, why not go with one of the Russian ones? Or the Scottish ones? I know a guy from Brighton who said English women are the least clean and the least attractive of all the women in the UK. So I don't know if you wanna go with one of them. hahaha couldn't make it up Link to post Share on other sites
LTP Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I say go for it. A lot of guys I've met have said they improved their skills at talking to women by spending a lot of time with strippers and prostitutes. If it doesn't improve your skills, at least you get laid. If you're going to get an escort, why not go with one of the Russian ones? Or the Scottish ones? I know a guy from Brighton who said English women are the least clean and the least attractive of all the women in the UK. So I don't know if you wanna go with one of them. I don't think it's a good idea. He could catch an STD and even if he doesn't it's not something to be proud of and he's just 23. What's sad is that he's even considering it, but this is what happens when so many use inexperience against someone. Link to post Share on other sites
Cracker Jack Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I've known a few guys who were desperate enough to see an escort when they were getting too stressed over their V-card. They became much worse afterwards. One of them even caught feelings for one of the escorts. It's just not worth it. Link to post Share on other sites
HughHardcastle Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I am 27 years old, and the thought of getting a pro has never come close to entering my mind. Although, I am rare in that I am not religious at all, yet I still place a deep meaning on the act of sex as something between two people who really like (not necessarily love) each other. Doing something just to do it, regardless of it being having sex, or sticking your finger in an outlet for the first time, just seems pointless to me. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I don't think it's a good idea. He could catch an STD and even if he doesn't it's not something to be proud of and he's just 23. What's sad is that he's even considering it, but this is what happens when so many use inexperience against someone. It's not sad for him to be considering it. The whole "experienced male" thing is a frustrating demand women place on men. I'm 27, but even when I was 22, it wasn't hard to meet women who would give you crap for not being "experienced enough". Isn't there a thread where a woman was dating a 25-yr old guy with a bachelor's, his own house, a stable job, and good chemistry only for her to have second thoughts because he was a virgin before he met her? Women are picky as hell when it comes to this experienced thing. I've read posts where women dumped men because they were bad in bed or bad kissers. His brothers are doing him a favor. Who knows what kinda slack he's going to get from women if he's still a virgin as the years wear on. I've known a few guys who were desperate enough to see an escort when they were getting too stressed over their V-card. They became much worse afterwards. One of them even caught feelings for one of the escorts. It's just not worth it. A lot of men catch feelings for escorts. There are men who catch feelings for pornstars, other men's wives, and hairstylists. The OP just has to make sure he's not one of those dudes who does catch feelings. Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's not sad for him to be considering it. The whole "experienced male" thing is a frustrating demand women place on men. I'm 27, but even when I was 22, it wasn't hard to meet women who would give you crap for not being "experienced enough". Isn't there a thread where a woman was dating a 25-yr old guy with a bachelor's, his own house, a stable job, and good chemistry only for her to have second thoughts because he was a virgin before he met her? Women are picky as hell when it comes to this experienced thing. I've read posts where women dumped men because they were bad in bed or bad kissers. His brothers are doing him a favor. Who knows what kinda slack he's going to get from women if he's still a virgin as the years wear on. A lot of men catch feelings for escorts. There are men who catch feelings for pornstars, other men's wives, and hairstylists. The OP just has to make sure he's not one of those dudes who does catch feelings. I know a lot of guys who lost their virginity in a brothel and didn't turn out too bad lol. Still, I'm not doing it anyway, it's not the way I want to do it really. I'm not someone who catches feelings really anyway. I only ever truly had a crush on one girl. I am attracted to many women though, I only want to attract one of them (or a few ). I'm not worried about the slack I will get, I get it enough anyway. I take it as a compliment that despite my social problems, my autism and my awkwardness, people I know are still utterly gobsmacked and shocked that I am not successful with women (not that I tell everyone, I tell no-one, but you know, even your nearest and dearest talk lol). Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 I don't think it's a good idea. He could catch an STD and even if he doesn't it's not something to be proud of and he's just 23. What's sad is that he's even considering it, but this is what happens when so many use inexperience against someone. I didn't think it was a good idea either, that's why I'm not doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I didn't think it was a good idea either, that's why I'm not doing it. Do it already, dude. They got some cute Russian escorts in London. What are you waiting for? Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Do it already, dude. They got some cute Russian escorts in London. What are you waiting for? Yeah, they got some even hotter brazilian/mixed raced ones too. Still though.....it's not exactly authentic is it? It's a manufactured sexual experience, sure there will be the sex, but I will still not be good at actually being able to get it without paying. Unless I am simultaneously doing both, but I'm still not completely comfortable with the idea of doing it. I'm not against that option, it's just not one I would personally take right now. Link to post Share on other sites
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yeah, they got some even hotter brazilian/mixed raced ones too. Still though.....it's not exactly authentic is it? It's a manufactured sexual experience, sure there will be the sex, but I will still not be good at actually being able to get it without paying. Unless I am simultaneously doing both, but I'm still not completely comfortable with the idea of doing it. I'm not against that option, it's just not one I would personally take right now. Yes, I noticed the Brazilian ones too. You just need to get rid of that moral anxiety that's stopping. When you get older and you start noticing fewer women single women your age in shape and/or without kids, you'll most likely lose the inhibitions against prostitutes. Link to post Share on other sites
LTP Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yeah, they got some even hotter brazilian/mixed raced ones too. Still though.....it's not exactly authentic is it? It's a manufactured sexual experience, sure there will be the sex, but I will still not be good at actually being able to get it without paying. Unless I am simultaneously doing both, but I'm still not completely comfortable with the idea of doing it. I'm not against that option, it's just not one I would personally take right now. It is manufactured and is a not a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
kaylan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's not sad for him to be considering it. The whole "experienced male" thing is a frustrating demand women place on men. I'm 27, but even when I was 22, it wasn't hard to meet women who would give you crap for not being "experienced enough". Isn't there a thread where a woman was dating a 25-yr old guy with a bachelor's, his own house, a stable job, and good chemistry only for her to have second thoughts because he was a virgin before he met her? Id second guess a 25 yr old female virgin myself for these reasons: 1. I dont want that kind of pressure placed upon me. Been there, done that. Some girls place a lot of emotions in their first guy, so you can damn well bet an older guy places so much importance in her first. If the sex goes down, you better damn well believe she prolly thinks your the one for her. But theres so much in a relationship besides sex to decide that. And theres a big journey of learning. 2. I am sick of girls who dont seem to know what they are doing in bed. I get that problem enough from women whove had partners. So it wont be better with a virgin. Im a very generous lover, but I still want someone whos on my level and knows how to push my buttons as well. I want to be able to have fun without having to tip toe slowly into different experiences because they are so new. Its fine when I was a teenager and still learning myself. But once I got into my 20s, the novelty of teaching a girl and showing her the ropes wore off. 3. Our outlook on a lot of things is probably very different. We prolly have contrasting values. Any gal ive met who was an older virgin, or a gal with not much experience tended to be have very old fashioned views on a number of things between men and women. So it is what it is. Some folks just want an equal Link to post Share on other sites
Author ThaWholigan Posted December 28, 2011 Author Share Posted December 28, 2011 Yes, I noticed the Brazilian ones too. You just need to get rid of that moral anxiety that's stopping. When you get older and you start noticing fewer women single women your age in shape and/or without kids, you'll most likely lose the inhibitions against prostitutes. Yeah, probably, but if I sort myself out before then it won't come to that . It's not moral anxiety that's stopping me really, I could bypass that if I wanted to. I would rather do without if not for my own confidence as well as the social stigma attached. Link to post Share on other sites
jobaba Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I am being badgered by my (younger) brothers to get laid, and they are suggesting chipping in on an escort. I have refused more than once but I have since thought about it. Now, It's highly unlikely that I will do this, but lets lay out my position and talk hypothetically.... You're a 23 year old autistic man. You have become better at talking to girls but still don't get anywhere. You are considered good-looking but alas this is not enough. You have expanded beyond your comfort zone and taken up hobbies in order to improve your social standing. Yet you are highly sexually frustrated. You are conscious of your incompetence with the opposite sex with no sign of a lucky break. And you have £300 to spare*. Escort still an unacceptable option?? *- I don't have any money lol Getting an escort won't help you with regular women really. And you can't really say that you're not a virgin anymore in public because you won't be able to reveal how you lost it. That being said ... it will demystify the act of sex for you and reveal it as a sloppy, messy bodily act instead of some orgasmic act while floating on a heavenly cloud. And if you do get a really hot one, it may make you less intimidated by average women. So, if you're REALLY nervous around regular women, it might be worth a shot. Link to post Share on other sites
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