Bad Date, half my age

[RecordProducer]

I swear that if I posted that I found a weed in my driveway,..someone would say it was a fantastic made-up story.

Gold Pile, you're a pathological liar or just a funny entertainer!

 

 

You obviously don't notice the fact that there are A LOT of younger women married to rich older guys.

Marrying and dating are two different things. For every gold digger marrying a wealthy man, there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of brainless lowlives and gold diggers who are being used for sex and dumped without seeing a penny. Some women don't realize that wealthy guys have a bunch of women standing in line to get to their money.

[kaylan]

Look at it this way man, you don't gotta clean the bathroom or do the dishes until you find another one.

 

I never took 'em to dinner.

I just had them over for movie night, threw something on the grill, gave them real wine, fired up the netflix on 50" plasma & their feeling like a queen.

 

well, compared to the Swanson dinners, frozen pizza, boon's, & vhs on a 20" tube the guys their own age can manage.

 

Instead of air conditioning I just encouraged them to....wear less.

 

Plus my furniture is overstuffed & sooo comfortable.

 

Posh compared to the threadbare garage sale couch & milk crate end tables they normally see in a 20 something apartment.

 

yep.

Can't wait for next summer.

 

 

Lol thats not expensive stuff at all. Plasmas are cheap as hell nowdays. Thats yesterdays flat screen tv. Even LCDs are super cheap now and you can get 42 inches for a little over a grand. Sometimes at even 800 bucks or less when good sales or going on.

 

LEDs is where its at right now. Plasmas and Rear Projections TV are totally 5 years ago and cheap to obtain.

 

Any 20 something making 35k a year can easily afford a nice tv, wine, and dinner. I think older guys really overestimate themselves and underestimate the average 20 something. Its one thing if your talking about college kids, but dudes in their 20s are adults with money too. And the thing is, while you older guys keep going on about what you money buys, plenty of dudes are out there making it happen with the ladies with less.

 

Again, the vast majority of folks date people their own age.

Edited December 24, 2011 by kaylan

[Elysian Powder]

this what we've been trying to say in all these "women age like sour milk and older men can still get the young hot chicks" the whole time: younger women are hardly ever serious about dating older men, so no man needs to feel like he's a king when he "snatches up" a younger broad, because a meal ticket is always convenient to some women, as goldpile's threads have showed now.

 

A hot meal for snatch. Good deal. the OP's old, but knows how to rent young pussy .

[TuffCookieX]

I think the story would have been better if Gold Pile actually had a good sob in the bathroom, and then again at the dinner table.

The appropriate answer when she lied about you being her "uncle" would have been, "actually, I'm the client paying you to f*ck me after this meal."

[D-Lish]

GP, Take me out, I'll look half your age in good lighting as long as people stand back far enough.

 

You're still going to pay for dinner- and It's going to cost more than $35, probably double plus...

 

However, you will have the benefit of a better conversation, and because I am peri-menopausal, my boobs are exploding right now.

 

We can have sex in the dark and you can squint- I'll pass for 21 if you drink enough and we have sex from behind?

[phineas]

Lol thats not expensive stuff at all. Plasmas are cheap as hell nowdays. Thats yesterdays flat screen tv. Even LCDs are super cheap now and you can get 42 inches for a little over a grand. Sometimes at even 800 bucks or less when good sales or going on.

 

LEDs is where its at right now. Plasmas and Rear Projections TV are totally 5 years ago and cheap to obtain.

 

Any 20 something making 35k a year can easily afford a nice tv, wine, and dinner. I think older guys really overestimate themselves and underestimate the average 20 something. Its one thing if your talking about college kids, but dudes in their 20s are adults with money too. And the thing is, while you older guys keep going on about what you money buys, plenty of dudes are out there making it happen with the ladies with less.

 

Again, the vast majority of folks date people their own age.

 

I am talking about college girls.

[kaylan]

Gotcha. However, college girls care nothing about "status". If any group of women cared the least about money Id say its teens and college girls. Esp college girls cus they understand what its like being broke and in school. I mean I was just there and money never mattered.

 

You should clarify what your talking about next time. College lifestyle is different from a 20 something lifestyle. So a 20 something guy, like I said, could easily do all the things you said you can do. A college guy usually cant. Usually when people say 20 something, they arent referring to college folks. Usually they are referring to those already done with school. Theyll specifically say college kid/boy/girl/guy if they are referring to college aged folk.

Edited December 24, 2011 by kaylan

[phineas]

Gotcha. However, college girls care nothing about "status". If any group of women cared the least about money Id say its teens and college girls. Esp college girls cus they understand what its like being broke and in school. I mean I was just there and money never mattered.

 

psst. dude, it's a Gold Pile thread.

When in rome........

[seibert253]

I would have have excused myself to go to the potty, then bailed never to be heard from again.

 

Wow, can't believe you actually shed a tear for that c#nt.

[phineas]

I would have have excused myself to go to the potty, then bailed never to be heard from again.

 

Wow, can't believe you actually shed a tear for that c#nt.

 

I would of channeled Larry from Three's Company & started hitting on them.

[Gold Pile]

GP, Take me out, I'll look half your age in good lighting as long as people stand back far enough.

 

You're still going to pay for dinner- and It's going to cost more than $35, probably double plus...

 

However, you will have the benefit of a better conversation, and because I am peri-menopausal, my boobs are exploding right now.

 

We can have sex in the dark and you can squint- I'll pass for 21 if you drink enough and we have sex from behind?

 

I used to tell "older" women that the smoke in this bar was good for hiding their wrinkles. I am a charmer. (credit Woody Allen)

Whatever age you look, it looks great! I'd proudly take you to the best dining establishment in town. But I'd arrive with donuts to fill you up on the cheap stuff B4 an expensive dinner.

Exploding boobs! as if you weren't hot enough already.

[CocoaBrown]

I am 25 and who said anything about a woman paying for my coffee? Either we go dutch or we trade who pays.

 

:confused: You must be fine as hell for women to put up with this! I mean really????!!! You mean to tell me when you meet a woman for the first time you won't pay for her coffee???

 

 

"Ok she got meals. But SHES AN ADULT TOO. She can pay for herself especially if shes not my girlfriend."

 

Of course she's an adult which is why she's on a date. It's not about being able to pay for herself, it's about....well, if I have to explain....LOL Look, I'm a simple woman.....I love low key dates that include walking on the waterfront, looking in little shops (as long as he sneaks in a kiss or two between stores lol) and grabbing Gelato. I also have NO PROBLEM paying for a guy after the first couple of dates. I wouldn't even have a problem paying half for a super expensive date (Cavalia tickets, dinner and drinks.....soooooooo NOT expecting him to foot the bill for all of that. NO WAY!) But if a guy can't pick up the tab on coffee or lunch when I first meet him I probably wouldn't see him again. That's just not a good first impression to me. I understand what you're saying overall, and I think the OP got used (what a bitch for her to introduce you as her uncle and WTF do you mean you would want to sleep with her again???!!! ) and I definitely wouldn't be spending endless amounts of money on a first date, but goodness!

[PlumPrincess]

I see no reason to put Gold Pile down. It's not like he's foolish enough to think he is still hot enough to charm the young chicks or complaining about them not wanting him. He's willing to accept the "uncle" position and to pay his way into her panties. And she probably is willing to accept that. To each his own.

 

(Which doesn't mean that I don't find the whole situation extremely entertaining. )

[kaylan]

:confused: You must be fine as hell for women to put up with this! I mean really????!!! You mean to tell me when you meet a woman for the first time you won't pay for her coffee???

 

 

"Ok she got meals. But SHES AN ADULT TOO. She can pay for herself especially if shes not my girlfriend."

 

Of course she's an adult which is why she's on a date. It's not about being able to pay for herself, it's about....well, if I have to explain....LOL Look, I'm a simple woman.....I love low key dates that include walking on the waterfront, looking in little shops (as long as he sneaks in a kiss or two between stores lol) and grabbing Gelato. I also have NO PROBLEM paying for a guy after the first couple of dates. I wouldn't even have a problem paying half for a super expensive date (Cavalia tickets, dinner and drinks.....soooooooo NOT expecting him to foot the bill for all of that. NO WAY!) But if a guy can't pick up the tab on coffee or lunch when I first meet him I probably wouldn't see him again. That's just not a good first impression to me. I understand what you're saying overall, and I think the OP got used (what a bitch for her to introduce you as her uncle and WTF do you mean you would want to sleep with her again???!!! ) and I definitely wouldn't be spending endless amounts of money on a first date, but goodness!

Cocoa brown, are you a sister? Im curious

 

Im not fine as hell. Im average in the face. But have been told plenty of times I have a nice body. I do work out and stay fit, but women cant see my body when they meet me unless its at the beach. So its not solely looks getting me interest from women.

 

I have to tell you though, you are the exact woman I avoid dating/marrying and am very turned off by. I like independent women who have no expectations of how I should treat them regarding my money. And in my dating life, finding women who fit what I like in this regard has not been a problem.

 

Having expectations of someone whos still kind of a stranger to you, and treating them differently just because they have something different between the legs is a very bad impression to me. So meh. Youre viewpoint is exactly how girls end up being like the one OP handled. It starts with little expectations and then grows when guys start stupidly throwing money at women. The girls I usually date get turned off by that and usually deny any gifts or overly uneven money spending from non-boyfriends.

 

All this being said though Cocoa,

 

I hate getting into the whole "who pays" debate. Times have changed and I have a method that works for me. Most of the time when I am first chilling with a girl, despite if we both notice a mutual interest, we are hanging out as friends. I dont like anything being expected of me, and I dont expect anything of the woman. Plus this way allows me to feel them out better since I feel theres less pressure on us.

 

I think you need to read my post again. I said that either we go dutch, or trade paying. Usually I get it the first time and she gets the next time if we dont split the first time. But as I said, when Im getting to know a girl, theres no label on our hangout. By the time weve moved forward and established that we are dating, then paying for one another is natural and of no issue. Shes more than just a friend by this point. Shes no longer just some friend Im trying to figure out if Id want to date.

 

Also, if I ask to TAKE a woman out, then obviously ill pay, since Im putting romantic emphasis on the situation. In which case, the kind of chicks I go for always get me something the next time we go out. If I just ask her if she wants to come tag with me and chill sometime, then I feel no obligation, because Im still just trying to feel her out as a friend. No special treatment for a friend having a vagina.

Edited December 24, 2011 by kaylan

[Bullet Proof]

If I guy asks me on a date, I 'expect' them to pay, however I always offer. I went dutch with an 'online' date during our first dinner. I was surprised he accepted my money. He was surprised I offered (said I was the first girl to offer). Usually though if I am dating someone we will switch off on who pays.

 

Now, the OP had a pretty funny story. I think you should just find a friends with benefits, rather than 'dating' and dinners. I'm 21 and have a nice FWB with a 36 yr old. We please each other and keep it interesting. We DON'T have romantic dinners and all that stuff, in fact we mostly just see each other, have sex and then leave! haha It works out for us, and we are both happy. We are friendly towards each other when we see each other (we used to work together and are both in the same field still) - but no one knows we 'mess around'.

[Wink Tobasco]

(shortened) :confused: kaylan You must be fine as hell for women to put up with this! I mean really????!!! You mean to tell me when you meet a woman for the first time you won't pay for her coffee???

But if a guy can't pick up the tab on coffee or lunch when I first meet him I probably wouldn't see him again. That's just not a good first impression to me.

 

this goes back to my point on another post. Mr K is @ home churning out hundreds of posts, not out there dating. He seems intelligent enough, I wish he and the others like him would get out there and live. You only get one shot at life.

[kaylan]

this goes back to my point on another post. Mr K is @ home churning out hundreds of posts, not out there dating. He seems intelligent enough, I wish he and the others like him would get out there and live. You only get one shot at life.

Wtf are you talking about? Firstly, do not derail someone elses thread to talk about me.

 

Secondly, did you not read my post in the other thread? In this technological age of ours, I can easily make posts from ANYWHERE. I can sit and watch football all day with my friends today, and type out a few posts on my cell phone or a laptop. In the hours I am with them, I divide my attention to this site for maybe 30 minutes. Posting takes no time to do at all.

 

I am not sitting home dude. Hop off my jock and quit worrying about my posting habits. Jeez. I have a life and a smartphone, and posting takes one minute to do. Its as simple as seeing an email for a subscribed thread, clicking it, and then typing for 30 seconds.

 

If you read my other thread with any comprehension, youd see I date and get around just fine. Dating isnt the problem, its figuring out what I want from dating. So to be honest, right now the best thing for me to do is take a break from dating.

 

Stop trying to be Dr Phil. Because he actually listens to responses from those he speaks to.

Edited December 24, 2011 by kaylan

[CocoaBrown]

Cocoa brown, are you a sister? Im curious

 

Im not fine as hell. Im average in the face. But have been told plenty of times I have a nice body. I do work out and stay fit, but women cant see my body when they meet me unless its at the beach. So its not solely looks getting me interest from women.

 

I have to tell you though, you are the exact woman I avoid dating/marrying and am very turned off by. I like independent women who have no expectations of how I should treat them regarding my money. And in my dating life, finding women who fit what I like in this regard has not been a problem.

 

Having expectations of someone whos still kind of a stranger to you, and treating them differently just because they have something different between the legs is a very bad impression to me. So meh. Youre viewpoint is exactly how girls end up being like the one OP handled. It starts with little expectations and then grows when guys start stupidly throwing money at women. The girls I usually date get turned off by that and usually deny any gifts or overly uneven money spending from non-boyfriends.

 

All this being said though Cocoa,

 

I hate getting into the whole "who pays" debate. Times have changed and I have a method that works for me. Most of the time when I am first chilling with a girl, despite if we both notice a mutual interest, we are hanging out as friends. I dont like anything being expected of me, and I dont expect anything of the woman. Plus this way allows me to feel them out better since I feel theres less pressure on us.

 

I think you need to read my post again. I said that either we go dutch, or trade paying. Usually I get it the first time and she gets the next time if we dont split the first time. But as I said, when Im getting to know a girl, theres no label on our hangout. By the time weve moved forward and established that we are dating, then paying for one another is natural and of no issue. Shes more than just a friend by this point. Shes no longer just some friend Im trying to figure out if Id want to date.

 

Also, if I ask to TAKE a woman out, then obviously ill pay, since Im putting romantic emphasis on the situation. In which case, the kind of chicks I go for always get me something the next time we go out. If I just ask her if she wants to come tag with me and chill sometime, then I feel no obligation, because Im still just trying to feel her out as a friend. No special treatment for a friend having a vagina.

 

You've responded to my posts before and you said my screen name makes it obvious I'm black so I'm not sure how you forgot lol And by all means avoid dating or marrying women like me.

 

Anyway, I'm gonna keep this short cause it really is a no brainer: I have my own and always have so it's not about being "independent" and all that bull****. I love when men try to use that lame ass excuse. Oh times have changed and I want a woman who can blah blah blah. Bottom line is if you ask a woman out for coffee and don't want to pay for it cause in your little mind you feel like she might try to "get over on you" in the future, you my friend have an issue. Not every woman is a user. Did you read my post?

 

The last guy I dated paid for the first date, invited me to a wedding he was in on the 2nd (free) and I invited him to breakfast on the 3rd and paid. As a whole I ended up giving waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more during the time we dated so you can't really lump me into the "I have a vagina and think I'm entitled" catagory. But, if it makes you feel better then please do. I know who I am.

[CocoaBrown]

this goes back to my point on another post. Mr K is @ home churning out hundreds of posts, not out there dating. He seems intelligent enough, I wish he and the others like him would get out there and live. You only get one shot at life.

 

Which post are you talking about? I want to read it.

[Disenchantedly Yours]

Well, I look for the humor in everything, but this hardly a wild tale. I dated a younger woman, she had issues with my age, it ended. I swear that if I posted that I found a weed in my driveway,.....someone would say it was a fantastic made-up story.

 

Gold Pile, if your stories are real, then you have to be one of the most misognistic men on the board. However, for whatever reason, I just think you like a good laugh and can spin a good tale. And if if not, I rather believe my version is true because otherwise, I'd think you were a pretty low human being.

[kaylan]

You've responded to my posts before and you said my screen name makes it obvious I'm black so I'm not sure how you forgot lol And by all means avoid dating or marrying women like me.

I forgot we had the black convo lol. I asked because in my experience with black chicks, old school gender roles tend to be a lil more strict. With that being said, I still havent had a problem with girls regarding my dating style.

 

And Im glad you agree with my evasion of your type. Means Ill find girls who like me for me, and not what I can provide them monetarily since I expect them to be successful in their own right.

Anyway, I'm gonna keep this short cause it really is a no brainer: I have my own and always have so it's not about being "independent" and all that bull****. I love when men try to use that lame ass excuse. Oh times have changed and I want a woman who can blah blah blah. Bottom line is if you ask a woman out for coffee and don't want to pay for it cause in your little mind you feel like she might try to "get over on you" in the future, you my friend have an issue. Not every woman is a user. Did you read my post?

Times have changed. Its stubborn and immature as hell for you to simply dismiss a valid reason (independence) for not wanting to pay a womans way as being a lame excuse. You know what I love? When women like you sit in the past and dont get with the present. Dont hate on my style of dating, because I still have women talking to me. So im obviously doing something right.

 

READ WHAT I WROTE AGAIN. If I ask her out in a romantic fashion, Ill pay because I asked her in a particular manner. If we havent hung out enough and have been chilling as friends so far, then Im not obligated to pay for her if I say we should just chill. Theres a difference between "hey let me take you out for coffee sometime" and "Yeah I so kicked your ass in pool last night, but Ima run and get some coffee, tag along?" I dont make obvious dates with a girl till its obvious we both will be investing equally into one another. By this point I usually pay, then she offers to pay or chip in next time.

 

Are you daft, or this that really too hard to understand? I have no issue, because this thread and many on this website show a lot of women expect men to pay for them. You even expect it out of me. I dont like women with expectations and gladly next girls with that attitude. Entitlement isnt attractive. I have no problem paying for a girl who I plan to date. But if we are just friends and I am feeling her out, why spend money on her just for having a vagina. I dont do that with my male friends. My male friends and I take turns.

 

I dont see the issue.

The last guy I dated paid for the first date, invited me to a wedding he was in on the 2nd (free) and I invited him to breakfast on the 3rd and paid. As a whole I ended up giving waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more during the time we dated so you can't really lump me into the "I have a vagina and think I'm entitled" catagory. But, if it makes you feel better then please do. I know who I am.

Dude, you said in your other post you expected the gay to pay the first couple dates. YOU SAID THAT. Thats a statement of entitlement and expectations and is a turn off to many men.

 

I ALREADY told you that I do my arrangements like you have stated only AFTER its been established that this girl will be more than a friend and we both have a vested interest in one another. I dont do it before this time because its easy to be taken for granted by many women with expectations of you in the initial "getting to know you" phase. Why should I pay for someone whos only an acquaitance so far, and Im not even sure if well end up friends?

 

By the time Ive decided I actually wanna chase a girl as more than a friend, any girl who makes it to that stage with me, only gets there because I know shes the type of girl who doesnt expect a guy to pay for her. But I am glad you took your dude out and contributed to the relationship. Thats cool beans

[kaylan]

As quoted from this thread: http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?t=311056&page=3

 

The car and the gas a man pays for to drive a woman around costs money dude. Very few women (women with no options) want a man who doesnt have car, let alone having to be the one driving him around!

 

Not to mention the amount of money that men regularly spend to buy their women meals, entertainment tickets, gifts, etc.

 

Lets get real, most women treat themselves as commodities while most men also in turn treat them as such.

 

I mean if a man tells a woman that he expects her to pay for most if not all of the dating expenses of the two of them, you bet she is going to run as far as she can. But if its the opposite, suddenly its romance!

 

The fact is that every woman puts a price tag on herself. The ones who charge little are those who don't attract a lot of buyers in the first place so they have to sell themselves at a bargain price.

I agree with this for the most part. But I wouldnt say every woman puts a price tag, because I have met some fine ass girls who are more than happy to be equal in a relationship. They just want to be cared for so the other stuff doesnt matter so much.

 

A girl who doesnt present herself as someone to be bought is attractive to me.

 

End of story.

[CocoaBrown]

I forgot we had the black convo lol. I asked because in my experience with black chicks, old school gender roles tend to be a lil more strict. With that being said, I still havent had a problem with girls regarding my dating style.

 

And Im glad you agree with my evasion of your type. Means Ill find girls who like me for me, and not what I can provide them monetarily since I expect them to be successful in their own right.

Times have changed. Its stubborn and immature as hell for you to simply dismiss a valid reason (independence) for not wanting to pay a womans way as being a lame excuse. You know what I love? When women like you sit in the past and dont get with the present. Dont hate on my style of dating, because I still have women talking to me. So im obviously doing something right.

 

READ WHAT I WROTE AGAIN. If I ask her out in a romantic fashion, Ill pay because I asked her in a particular manner. If we havent hung out enough and have been chilling as friends so far, then Im not obligated to pay for her if I say we should just chill. Theres a difference between "hey let me take you out for coffee sometime" and "Yeah I so kicked your ass in pool last night, but Ima run and get some coffee, tag along?" I dont make obvious dates with a girl till its obvious we both will be investing equally into one another. By this point I usually pay, then she offers to pay or chip in next time.

 

Are you daft, or this that really too hard to understand? I have no issue, because this thread and many on this website show a lot of women expect men to pay for them. You even expect it out of me. I dont like women with expectations and gladly next girls with that attitude. Entitlement isnt attractive. I have no problem paying for a girl who I plan to date. But if we are just friends and I am feeling her out, why spend money on her just for having a vagina. I dont do that with my male friends. My male friends and I take turns.

 

I dont see the issue.

 

Dude, you said in your other post you expected the gay to pay the first couple dates. YOU SAID THAT. Thats a statement of entitlement and expectations and is a turn off to many men.

 

I ALREADY told you that I do my arrangements like you have stated only AFTER its been established that this girl will be more than a friend and we both have a vested interest in one another. I dont do it before this time because its easy to be taken for granted by many women with expectations of you in the initial "getting to know you" phase. Why should I pay for someone whos only an acquaitance so far, and Im not even sure if well end up friends?

 

By the time Ive decided I actually wanna chase a girl as more than a friend, any girl who makes it to that stage with me, only gets there because I know shes the type of girl who doesnt expect a guy to pay for her. But I am glad you took your dude out and contributed to the relationship. Thats cool beans

 

lol@ black convo. I didn't forget you/your name because you were the first to understand where I was coming from on that post and I was just happy someone got me.

 

I'm not going to lie, I only skimmed through this and I'll tell you why: Going back and forth with you is not going to change what I believe or how I feel about men who think it's ok not to pay for a first date and I know it doesn't make me any less of the woman that I am or make me a gold-digger, entitled or anything else you could come up with. It's also not going to make you understand what I'm trying to say. Lets face it....99.99% of the time a man asks a woman to spend time with him it's not because he wants to shoot the **** To say you want to spend time with a woman first before you take it to the next level (pay) is just but bottom line is if you have found what works for you then that's great. Everyone is different and there is a woman who will be happy with what you're willing to give. I'm just thankful the men I'm coming across don't have the same idea. I'll agree to disagree and see you on another thread.

[D-Lish]

I used to tell "older" women that the smoke in this bar was good for hiding their wrinkles. I am a charmer. (credit Woody Allen)

Whatever age you look, it looks great! I'd proudly take you to the best dining establishment in town. But I'd arrive with donuts to fill you up on the cheap stuff B4 an expensive dinner.

Exploding boobs! as if you weren't hot enough already.

 

You are a charmer.

To be honest, I don't eat donuts (yet), I'd have a salad to make it look like I take care of myself- but as soon as you say "I love you".... The BJ's stop and I'm going to let myself go.

[kaylan]

Not related to the thread, but dang D-Lish...Im seeing your avatar for the 1st time, and if I saw you out in the mall, park, coffee shop, etc, Id totally be chatting you up =P

 

Your face is a bit shadowy in the pic, but I can see you are fit. Love a fit gal lolz. Being blonde doesnt hurt either =P