White Women = Status?

[snowflakes88]

" Black women are, by a large margin, the least likely to date outside of their race."

 

Based on my experience, I highly disagree. On every dating site, they are the most friendliest women out there and always respond back to me. I love em.

 

There are endless studies / polls / surveys on the topic. I understand that your individual experience may vary, but black women are - generally - far more likely to eschew interracial dating than any other group. I think that dynamic has begun to shift slightly however, as more and more black women realize that they may have to open themselves to dating "others" if they want marriage, family, etc. I'm not there yet, but I have a lot of friends who have begun making a concerted effort to date interracially, though they were opposed to it in the past.

[kaleidoscope]

Well I've seen pictures of Beyonce that show her skin color isn't that fair - its all that makeup which doesn't look real.

 

The girl I've asked out in New York city is about 6 out of 10 on the darkness scale.

 

But drop by to Times Square in the area I mentioned there are really dark, dark beauties out there. A beautiful dark - its really hot.

 

The entertainment industry doesn't show many dark women but that's their fault.

 

But there are many Rihanna's and Beyonce's with dark skin out there. Just look.

[kaylan]

Just understand where this guy is coming from. Many Latino and African American men want women with light skin tones because those are status symbols within their respective cultures.

 

Without rambling too much on this topic... I see African American women in general being the only racial group in the U.S. that really suffers in the dating market. But... thats just my opinion.

Again, this has to do with Eurocentric ideals influencing all cultures.

[kaleidoscope]

My main point is that the skin tone doesn't matter.

 

Who are you dating? What are they about?

 

That's what makes someone hot.

 

Skin eventually wrinkles, it gets scarred, it gets discolored, whatever..

 

Sure skin tone can be sexy but in the end when you love someone its not the deciding factor.

[Feelsgoodman]

well not only are white women usually on average from wealthier backgrounds, there is some lingering colonial mentality footprint in interracial social scene.

There is definitely some truth to this. Many minorities still see white people as the "superior race" on a subconscious level. This is especially true of blacks and middle easterners. They may hate white people in general, but they still want white women, german luxury cars, swiss watches, etc.

[kaylan]

I think this is pretty accurate. Black women are, by a large margin, the least likely to date outside of their race. Even assuming that all black men dated black women exclusively - we would still outnumber them, necessarily leaving some women "in the cold," so to speak.

two fold reason for this.

 

1) Black women have a lot of stereotypes that play against them when it comes to dating...or just in general. Plus in the world we live in, the further a person is away from being light skin tone, the less appealing they are perceived to be...lets not pretend the world isnt like this.

 

2) Black women have a strong sense of pride in sticking to their men. They consider black men to be the strongest of the strong. The most masculine of the masculine.

 

And hell, we kinda are =)

[Casablanca]

And Cmon.....we're talking Rihanna, Beyonce, etc.....

 

Black girls hot or not? Yes hot.

 

White girls hot? Yes

 

All colors in between hot? Yes, yes, and yes.

It is all about personal preference. I do not find myself attracted to many African Americans unless they are lighter like the ones you mentioned

 

One of my friends who is white is currently engaged to an African American woman who is pretty dark skinned and I do find her very cute. It all comes down to preference.

[kaylan]

I hope men and women alike will chime in on this.

 

I have a male friend who I frequently speak with about dating issues/my love life. Often, in various contexts, he makes reference to how white women are somehow sought after more than any other. Or how they tend to have the upper hand in relationships, especially when they're with non-white men.

 

Do you men (especially non-white ones) generally see white women as the best? Meaning...you'd more likely hang onto a 5'6" white woman who's reasonably pretty but not as pretty as, say, a shorter woman who's ethnic, on the grounds that you just feel prouder to have landed a white woman?

 

I'm not sure why I think people will answer this question honestly. Not many people would 'fess up to preferring white women for, among other reasons, the status aspect. However, maybe some will shed light on it.

 

I know the above might be even offensive to some people (I can see how it would be), but my male friend is always explaining situations with the reference to white women being the greatest. Most recently, we discussed an ethnic guy we know who is sort of stuck on this white woman and won't leave no matter how much imbalance there is. My male friend says, "Well, that's a common phenomenon, especially when there's a white woman involved..."

 

Is he right to say such things? He sort of suggests, basically, that if there's any choice to be made, the white woman will usually win over other women.

Some folks have complexes like this. Others do not.

 

I for one, as a black man, feel that a hot woman is a hot woman. No matter her ethnicity.

 

And I will not put up with any crap or bs with a women based on her race. I have the same patience, or lack thereof, with them all.

[kaleidoscope]

"They may hate white people in general, but they still want white women, german luxury cars, swiss watches, etc."

 

Certain people maybe. But people all over the world just want to be healthy, sexy, successful.

 

And there are healthy, sexy, successful people of every ethnicity.

 

Those people who are stuck on just white women are living in a small small world.

[kaylan]

Honestly, I love a beautiful white woman. She's the epitome of beauty to the fullest and often the most feminine. As a black man, I haven't dated a white woman yet. I've had some interested in me but they weren't on the top of the totem pole in my opinion.

 

I'd definitely treat a lovely white woman with respect because I know she appreciates it more than most other women and most are naturally more laidback about different things and very liberal sexually. This part I know, because I've fooled around with a few white women in my heyday and I've been able to do anything with them in regards to my greatest sexual taste and desires.

This kind of generalizing bs and white women pedestalizing is what I hate about some brothers. It smacks of a lack of love for themselves or their own kind imo.

 

How can you hold yourself in any great esteem when you dont hold your own women up high?

[kaleidoscope]

"I for one, as a black man, feel that a hot woman is a hot woman. No matter her ethnicity."

 

Yes, I like that statement.

 

Hot is hot. Goes for guys and girls.

[kaylan]

well not only are white women usually on average from wealthier backgrounds, there is some lingering colonial mentality footprint in interracial social scene.

 

also since most models and attractive women on the media are white, some men are conditoned to think that white women are more attractive on average.

 

what makes things worse is that in some contexts it might be true that there are more healthy non overweight white women than minorities. In America expectantly being healthy is closely tied to socioeconomic status. poorer americans are usually more overweight cause they have to settle for fast food meals. and since there are more poor minorities you can make a conclusion.

^This.

 

Race does not make someone more laid back or different personality wise than someone else. Its all about culture. I know some laid back and super valley-ish black women from the burbs, and I know trashy ass white hood women from down town. Its culture, not race.

[kaylan]

Hmm... as a black woman, I often hear the direct opposite. I've heard a significant number of black men claim to prefer white women because they are more passive and submissive, thus allowing the man to have more of the upper hand. Not saying this is true across the board (though I suspect it's true to some extent, for many reasons) - but it's something I've heard frequently.

 

And @ black women allegedly thinking white women are "devils". I personally could not care less about interracial dating. I date black men exclusively and prefer to date black men who either (1) date black women exclusively, or (2) strongly prefer black women. I generally do not find myself attracted to the types of black men who date white women exclusively or prefer them, so it all works out in the wash.

What up sister...I just had to say your user name made me lol pretty hard since youre black but called snowflake:laugh:

 

Irony ftw =)

[Untouchable_Fire]

" Black women are, by a large margin, the least likely to date outside of their race."

Based on my experience, I highly disagree. On every dating site, they are the most friendliest women out there and always respond back to me. I love em.

 

Most black ladies that I've met tend to take a "support our men" approach to dating.

 

I agree that there are tons of very hot black women.

[Cracker Jack]

Stepping in to just say I agree with kaleido and kaylan.

[Casablanca]

Most black ladies that I've met tend to take a "support our men" approach to dating.

What do you mean?

[kaylan]

He means that they stay by our side through thick and thin and have pride in who were are together as black people.

 

Its a pride and unity thing.

[Casablanca]

He means that they stay by our side through thick and thin and have pride in who were are together as black people.

 

Its a pride and unity thing.

Okay, thats kind of what I was thinking, but wasnt sure if thats what he meant

[Shaun-Dro]

I cannot comment too much on this as I am white myself. But I have heard people say that some black women consider white women to be the devil because of how sought after they are by men of their own race; dont know how true it is though

 

It's true about us black men sorting the white women out greatly but very untrue about her being the devil of any kind. Black women are often quite bitter when seeing a black man dating a white woman, but yet she doesn't hesitate to jump in the sack with an eligible white male bachelor, while in the same token, giving a black guy difficulty if he expresses interest in her so go figure.

[kaylan]

^More generalizations from a guy who pedastalizes those not of his race.

 

Whats that say about you?

 

I havent really come across these hostile black women you talk about. Maybe its because I went to a liberal college and grew up around folks who cared more about clicking with someone rather than their skin color.

 

How about you date someone who gets along with you, not someone whos youre with for status...kus that wont last long

[Shaun-Dro]

This kind of generalizing bs and white women pedestalizing is what I hate about some brothers. It smacks of a lack of love for themselves or their own kind imo.

 

How can you hold yourself in any great esteem when you dont hold your own women up high?

 

Kaylan, I've been down this road. You have no clue of the silly garbage I had to deal with concerning black women; the head games they play, the constant back and forth challenging, fighting, just drama all-around. Plus, in NYC, black women look the worst. The better-looking ones are in other states, like Atlanta and Virginia, but I'm not down there to float my boat.

 

The white women in NY look better. It's the truth. I'll come across some fine-looking sisters, but it's far in-between. Most are overweight, falsely dolled-up with full-headed weaves that don't match their real hair, the list goes on. Maybe it's the NY life or whatever that's destroying her, but it's not my problem if she does nothing to save herself from it.

[kaylan]

Dude, Im from NY too. You are meeting the wrong sisters. Women from a lower social class in general possess those annoyances which you complain about. Its just that due to our nations history, you tend to see more minorities in the lower classes.

 

I grew up in NYC but now live in the burbs. Its eye opening to see white, black, and latinos all mixed together in the different lil hood areas that are in the suburbs.

 

As I said before. Give me a sexy chick of any race and Im down. All she needs to do is have a good head on her shoulders as well.

 

And you aint joking bout Atlanta. Sisters look good down there. But look up stats. Black folks tend to do better economically in Atlanta. Plus we make up more of the population of that city than NY. Hell we make up more of the south in general.

[Elysian Powder]

Why should I have to?

 

I prefer women of my own ethnicity.

 

But women of your own ethnicity don't want you. you are a sexual beggar and so picky. Do you get a boner when you complain? It'd explain the 24/7 illogical whining .

[kaylan]

^Though EP can be rough with his assessments. Hes always consistently right with this one fact: beggars cant be choosers.

 

I never understood why there exists men and women who complain about their dating life, but have unrealistic standards given their situations. Being picky is good up to a point, then ya gotta get real with yourself.

[jadedone]

Hmm... as a black woman, I often hear the direct opposite. I've heard a significant number of black men claim to prefer white women because they are more passive and submissive, thus allowing the man to have more of the upper hand. Not saying this is true across the board (though I suspect it's true to some extent, for many reasons) - but it's something I've heard frequently.

 

And @ black women allegedly thinking white women are "devils". I personally could not care less about interracial dating. I date black men exclusively and prefer to date black men who either (1) date black women exclusively, or (2) strongly prefer black women. I generally do not find myself attracted to the types of black men who date white women exclusively or prefer them, so it all works out in the wash.

 

This is what I have noticed as well. Many of the white women that date black men tend to be door mats.