youngskywalker Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 It has a PLOT unlike porn and there aren't close ups of genitalia. Actually there is no genitalia at all. Just some T and A. Porn is about blow jobs and f*cking and that's about it. It's boring!!!! NO! Porn has a plot! Like when the guy calls a cleaning service and a hot young maid shows up. That's way better than vampires lol.
dasein Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Am still waiting for the porn version of Harry Potter to see who would get to play "Vagione."
somedude81 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Undesirable Men cant win, if we hit on cute girls are standards are too high if we hit on plainer girls its only because we feel we cant do better That's exactly it. For the longest time verhrzn kept saying that I only went for the hottest girls. And now she is saying that I'm going after girls who I don't think are attractive and that are not hot enough to get the men they really want. I'll break it down. I'll go after any girl I think is cute and who has a personality I get along/have fun with. Common interests are more important than looks. I don't care if a chick is desired by a lot of men or not. I don't have any sort of agenda. Most women actually don't necessarily want a beautiful man. They want what he represents.... That someone special (someone with options and choices) would choose them. Do you see how incredibly shallow/childish this is? Women only want a man who has options, because it makes her feel special that he chose her. Women want to be wanted. They want to be desired, they want their partner to think they are drop-dead sexy. They want to feel special. Sure they do, but only from a guy who has his pick. Yeah, you're looking at them... but you're not making them feel special. You're making them feel "settled for." That you're picking them because you think you don't have options, because you think "Hey they're too unattractive to get men they consider handsome, they'll go for me!" By having such a low expectation of yourself, you're actually INSULTING these women, and driving them further away. Just because a guy has problems with women, it automatically means that he'll take whatever he can get. So when he develops feelings for a girl it doesn't matter because it's not real? Give me a break You seem to have a very low opinion of men. Ever think that may be part of where you problem lies? I'm only referencing women's needs because the tone of this thread has shifted to (yet again) women are shallow and only want hot dudes. Shifted to? That was the intention of the thread from the very first post... I completely agree men want to be wanted as well. I've gotten into arguments with desperate guys on this forum who say they would LOVE to be "settled for," and how I think that's an absolutely horrible mindset to have. I think men and women both need to have realistic standards about who they're looking for, but at the same time, I really don't want anyone to switch their mindset to," I can't get the hot girl/guy, so I'll take the ugly one I'm barely into but who will date me." Settling in that sense helps no one. Yes, wanting to be settled for is not a good mindset. But as you said, desperate guys are, well, desperate. I'm 30 and still haven't had a real relationship. I would love to be somebodies number two or three or whatever choice, I just don't care. I can't do sh*t with my pride nor does it do anything for me. As for me settling and taking the ugly one, I really don't want to do that. But I see it all the time, guys that are with women that just look bad. And I wonder what he sees in her. I seriously cannot figure out why normal looking dudes date obese women. Desperation and feeling like they can't get any better seems to be the only answer. Personally I'd rather be alone than with a woman I have zero attraction for. The thought of actually being with somebody who turns me off is disgusting. Just because women can be manipulated doesn't mean they lack any intuition. I'm awful at reading people, but I can see desperation a mile away. In guys like somedude, it's barely concealed-his low opinion of himself (and thus the women he decides to pursue) is all right there on the surface. Women get manipulated by players because the guys are experts at covering their emotional tracks. Desperate guys are not. Plus, I think women get manipulated by good looking guys NOT because the guy is good looking, but because he's giving them that "I have options, and thus am a prize, and can make you feel special" feeling. Good looks CAN be a prize, but a guy can easily give off that impression that his money, or his charm, or his humor, or his intelligence, are what makes him a prize. Somedude's looks are not the problem... his desperation is. Uh, you don't have a clue how I act around real people. If you asked every girl that knew me to describe me, none of them would say desperate. Newsflash, I take great steps to hide my intentions. In almost all my experiences with women, I was forced to stop interacting with a girl after she found out that I was interested. The one exception was D who didn't care for about a year and a half that I wanted her. Even then she eventually couldn't take it anymore and kicked me out of her life. Yes, I am desperate for a girlfriend but I know that letting any woman even get a hint of that is a kiss of death. So much for the women want to be desired nonsense.
TheFinalWord Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 I don't know much about this vampire show...but Wolf18's posts are probably the funniest discussion board posts I have ever read! LOL the funny thing is 99% of what he says is true! Truth is stranger than fiction (kind of ironic considering this thread is about vampires...see Wolf wouldn't have to tell people this was a pun! He's got skills ) You've got some witty humor... I can see why the girls dig ya
Author Wolf18 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Posted December 19, 2011 Wolf is cute as hell. I've seen pictures of him. He's not a midget and he's got a nice body. :love:YOU stay in your f*cking lane, buddy. What a nice lady You, shannon, are a highly evolved, gracile and balanced Homosapien. I don't know much about this vampire show...but Wolf18's posts are probably the funniest discussion board posts I have ever read! LOL the funny thing is 99% of what he says is true! Truth is stranger than fiction (kind of ironic considering this thread is about vampires...see Wolf wouldn't have to tell people this was a pun! He's got skills ) You've got some witty humor... I can see why the girls dig ya [/Quote] LOL cats don't even dig me to bury me these days when it comes to wuvvvv . Wolf...if what shannon is saying is correct...Pics or gtfo...nnaaaaooo! [/Quote] All I have are crappy cellphone or computer pics on my computer: http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg
ascendotum Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Sookie is so ugly. I'm sorry hahahahahahaha and they desire her because she's human but "different". She's a fairy and vamps love fairies. At least on the show they do because drinking her blood makes them immune to the sun.. I asked some girl I know who watched this but she did'nt explain it properly. So thats how it works eh. I like my vampires traditional. Rise from the crypt only after sundown, none of this skipping about in the sun BS in the 21st century. You cant call a guy who likes his vampires looking like Max Schreck or Christopher Lee, gay. I've been meaning to check what all the fuss is about with True Blood, but after reading this..."wide variety of extreme S&M" you've sold me on it Wolf, I guess I can tolerate the stupid love plot.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 What a nice lady You, shannon, are a highly evolved, gracile and balanced Homosapien. LOL cats don't even dig me to bury me these days when it comes to wuvvvv . All I have are crappy cellphone or computer pics on my computer: http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5444/analfixatedtransexualsa.jpg You're soooooooo cute Wolfie!! I love the first pic and the one with the suspenders. Where's that shirtless one? That's my all time favorite;)
thatone Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I'm going to pretend my homepage isn't an Alexander Skarsgard fanpage... I freaking love true blood. I do agree with you, the two of them fighting over Sookie is annoying but I think the whole point is that they're tired of perfection and they want something more human. What's more human than an average looking girl with weird teeth? Oh yeah and there's the magic blood part. Of course women think about sex ! What PlumPrincess said is kind of indicative of how a lot of women justify saying they don't like porn -- this has a plot and developed characters.. but it's still sexy. Personally, I think real porn gets more annoying the more plot/character is introduced. Those girls CANNOT act. the point of true blood and twilight and the like is a plain, boring woman being fought over by two men far above her pay grade. that is female porn, in a nutshell.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I asked some girl I know who watched this but she did'nt explain it properly. So thats how it works eh. I like my vampires traditional. Rise from the crypt only after sundown, none of this skipping about in the sun BS in the 21st century. You cant call a guy who likes his vampires looking like Max Schreck or Christopher Lee, gay. I've been meaning to check what all the fuss is about with True Blood, but after reading this..."wide variety of extreme S&M" you've sold me on it Wolf, I guess I can tolerate the stupid love plot. True Blood is definitely worth checking out. The plot is not all about love. There are a lot of different things going on in each episode with each character. I have to say it is probably my favorite show on TV today. For the story line and of course for the smokin' hot men. I'm not gonna lie. The eye candy is a big draw. Even the resident gay dude on the show, Lafayette is fine as f*ck. When a season ends I go through severe with drawls. No joke. I'm highly addicted to it.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 the point of true blood and twilight and the like is a plain, boring woman being fought over by two men far above her pay grade. that is female porn, in a nutshell. Yeah right. Have you watched True Blood? It's not all about fighting over Sookie. That's part of the story, but there is A LOT of other things going on. Each character has a story and is developed. From the gay cook, Lafayette to Sookie's brother Jason to Sam Merlotte, the shape shifter/bar owner to Alcide and his wolf pack. And there are a dozen more characters on the show with their own story. To say it's all about Bill, Eric and Sookie is just stupid. If that were the case, I wouldn't love the show as much as I do. I'd be bored out of my skull. That element of the series is interesting, but there is soooooooo much more to it then that. Rent season 1 and check it out. You'll see.
thatone Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 When a season ends I go through severe with drawls. No joke. I'm highly addicted to it. if that was intentional that's hilarious. if not, i'm disappointed!
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 if that was intentional that's hilarious. if not, i'm disappointed! What's intentional? My withdrawl sypmtoms because of True Blood? I miss the show like crazy when it's not on. I have to wait until f*cking JUNE to see the next season. That's one hell of a long wait when the last season ended in September.
thatone Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 What's intentional? My withdrawl of True Blood? I miss the show like crazy when it's not on. I have to wait until f*cking JUNE to see the next season. That's one hell of a long wait when the last season ended in September. disappointed Yeah right. Have you watched True Blood? It's not all about fighting over Sookie. That's part of the story, but there is A LOT of other things going on. Each character has a story and is developed. From the gay cook, Lafayette to Sookie's brother Jason to Sam Merlotte, the shape shifter/bar owner to Alcide and his wolf pack. And there are a dozen more characters on the show with their own story. To say it's all about Bill, Eric and Sookie is just stupid. If that were the case, I wouldn't love the show as much as I do. I'd be bored out of my skull. That element of the series is interesting, but there is soooooooo much more to it then that. Rent season 1 and check it out. You'll see. yeah, i've watched it. i pay the cable bill just for HBO, basically...well and showtime and starz. i like dexter and the spartacus shows too. now spartacus on starz, that's porn for the whole family. shame andy whitfield died . couldn't get into it. maybe because i'm from the south, the whole redneck aspect has no draw(l) (haha) to me at all, since i see such classes of people all the time and there's nothing romantic about them.
O'Malley Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I like my vampires traditional. Rise from the crypt only after sundown, none of this skipping about in the sun BS in the 21st century. You cant call a guy who likes his vampires looking like Max Schreck or Christopher Lee, gay. The Hammer films are great, especially To The Devil A Daughter, where Lee isn't a vampire for a change. And Max Schreck -- . I was always disappointed that no one considered having Schreck in a film based on Peter Kurten (a notorious killer, 'the Vampire of Dusseldorf', in Germany at the time). Now that would have been true horror. I've watched Trueblood with some of my friends, it's an alright show. The best part was when the one vampire hit the woman with the flatscreen television. It's too bad that they killed off the Franklin guy so quick -- the show needs more villains, imo. Nice pics Wolf, especially the second and third. I'm trying to figure out if I've seen the black shirt somewhere.
Author Wolf18 Posted December 19, 2011 Author Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Tshirt depicts the life rune, it's for a black metal band I listen to. BTW, now that it's settled that women like True Blood, what do people think of Verzhns and other womens favorite porn star "James Deen" ? He's a really sensitive guy whose in touch with his feelings. I remember seeing a video of him where he repeatedly kicks some broad in the head, then leads a gang rape of her in the streets of europe ROFL. Is it the goo-goo eyes he gives to the camera? Feminists always take issue with male porn that simulates rape etc...unless women like it?? I bet more men get offended by that type of pornography than women (I can enjoy it time to time but the james deen filth takes it a bit too far IMO). Edited December 19, 2011 by Wolf18
verhrzn Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Tshirt depicts the life rune, it's for a black metal band I listen to. BTW, now that it's settled that women like True Blood, what do people think of Verzhns and other womens favorite porn star "James Deen" ? He's a really sensitive guy whose in touch with his feelings. I remember seeing a video of him where he repeatedly kicks some broad in the head, then leads a gang rape of her in the streets of europe ROFL. Is it the goo-goo eyes he gives to the camera? Guess I haven't run across that one. *Shrugs* Porn for females isn't a big demographic, the guy's gotta eat, so he's probably starred in other films that don't necessarily cater to women. Him starring in movies that also cater to male audiences doesn't really disprove my point that most females don't want the big muscled, emotionless Adonis. Feminists always take issue with male porn that simulates rape etc...unless women like it?? I bet more men get offended by that type of pornography than women (I can enjoy it time to time but the james deen filth takes it a bit too far IMO). Um... yeah, that's pretty much exactly it. There is a big distinction between rape (what the male-centric videos are featuring) and rape fantasy (what female-centric videos feature.) Plenty of women have rape fantasies. Feminists take issue with male porn that simulates rape because in those films, the point is male pleasure. I think you can agree there's something squitchy about male pleasure = rape. (AKA, the woman does not consent and the male forces her.) In porn videos in which rape is featured, but it's about the woman's pleasure, the woman is SIMULATING rape, but because it's her fantasy/her desire, she is in control, and consenting. Edited December 19, 2011 by verhrzn
Woggle Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 You can't rape the consenting as long as they are sober. It just can't be done. The definition of rape is sex without consent. I worry about women who have rape fantasies anyway. Why would any woman fantasize about having what is pretty much a gender related hate crime committed against them? You don't see other groups fantasizing about having a hate committed against them?
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Tshirt depicts the life rune, it's for a black metal band I listen to. BTW, now that it's settled that women like True Blood, what do people think of Verzhns and other womens favorite porn star "James Deen" ? He's a really sensitive guy whose in touch with his feelings. I remember seeing a video of him where he repeatedly kicks some broad in the head, then leads a gang rape of her in the streets of europe ROFL. Is it the goo-goo eyes he gives to the camera? Feminists always take issue with male porn that simulates rape etc...unless women like it?? I bet more men get offended by that type of pornography than women (I can enjoy it time to time but the james deen filth takes it a bit too far IMO). I just looked up that James Deen because I've never heard of him. He looks like such a dweeb. He's actually got a blog. One of the categories on there is "gaping butthole" hahahahahahahaha OMG disgusting, but totally hilarious. That's all I can say.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 You can't rape the consenting as long as they are sober. It just can't be done. The definition of rape is sex without consent. I worry about women who have rape fantasies anyway. Why would any woman fantasize about having what is pretty much a gender related hate crime committed against them? You don't see other groups fantasizing about having a hate committed against them? Yeah any woman that fantasizes about getting raped has some serious issues. I can see liking to be tied up or whatever, but RAPE? That's just disturbing.
verhrzn Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 You can't rape the consenting as long as they are sober. It just can't be done. The definition of rape is sex without consent. I worry about women who have rape fantasies anyway. Why would any woman fantasize about having what is pretty much a gender related hate crime committed against them? You don't see other groups fantasizing about having a hate committed against them? Sure you do. I've heard of tons of examples just reading things like Ask Alice and Dan Savage... black women who want their white boyfriends to role play master-slave scenarios, or (this isn't a hate crime necessarily) men (and some women) who get off on the idea of their partner betraying them sexually. Fantasies are weird things. Why do some people get turned on by rubbing balloons against their body, or getting pies in the face? Who knows. For women with rape fantasies, I've heard reasons ranging anywhere from transforming a fear of loss of control into a power trip (rape is partially about the other person controlling you against your will; in a rape-play scenario, the woman stays in control), to downright lust (the guy is so into you he has to have you.) Our erotic imaginations are truly ID-driven, and our fantasies don't necessarily say anything about our actual psychological state. Do you also worry that anyone who doesn't like missionary-style, vanilla sex has some sort of psychological hangup?
verhrzn Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah any woman that fantasizes about getting raped has some serious issues. I can see liking to be tied up or whatever, but RAPE? That's just disturbing. By being tied up, you're sacrificing the ability to defend yourself (with anything other than words), to get away... you're surrendering your autonomy to the other person...Isn't being tied up just an extension of what's at the heart of rape-play... loss of control, a "powerlessness"? It really bothers me when we start policing anyone's erotic imagination, or judging someone as "broken" or "having serious issues" for what turns them on in the bedroom. I have yet to run across a woman with a rape fantasy who ACTUALLY wants to be raped, just like you, Shannon, wouldn't actually wanted to be tied up by some random person.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 By being tied up, you're sacrificing the ability to defend yourself (with anything other than words), to get away... you're surrendering your autonomy to the other person...Isn't being tied up just an extension of what's at the heart of rape-play... loss of control, a "powerlessness"? It really bothers me when we start policing anyone's erotic imagination, or judging someone as "broken" or "having serious issues" for what turns them on in the bedroom. I have yet to run across a woman with a rape fantasy who ACTUALLY wants to be raped, just like you, Shannon, wouldn't actually wanted to be tied up by some random person. It's all about consent though isn't it? You are consenting to getting tied up and you are consenting for a man to have sex with you. If you feel uncomfortable, you tell the guy to untie you. Rape is all about being over powered and forced to have sex without your consent. I don't judge anyone for being into what they are into sexually. To each their own. It's just a bit disturbing to ME to think of rape as a turn on. Just like people that like to be choked when they have sex. There is something strange about that. But if someone is into it, then good for them. Have at it.
verhrzn Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 It's all about consent though isn't it? You are consenting to getting tied up and you are consenting for a man to have sex with you. If you feel uncomfortable, you tell the guy to untie you. Rape is all about being over powered and forced to have sex without your consent. I don't judge anyone for being into what they are into sexually. To each their own. It's just a bit disturbing to ME to think of rape as a turn on. Just like people that like to be choked when they have sex. There is something strange about that. But if someone is into it, then good for them. Have at it. But women with rape fantasies aren't actually saying they want to be raped. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but rape fantasy is about being in control in a situation where it SEEMS like you don't. Okay, you like to be tied down. But you liked being tied down, but only in situations where you consent. The exact same actions done by someone you haven't given consent to would NOT be sexy. It's the same with rape fantasies. Women are consenting to being raped (which, thus, isn't rape... which is why I try to distinguish by saying "rape" and "rape fantasy.") The exact same actions, without a woman's consent, would be scary and illegal. With the woman's consent, it can be sexy and erotic.
Dust Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Yeah any woman that fantasizes about getting raped has some serious issues. I can see liking to be tied up or whatever, but RAPE? That's just disturbing. I’m kinda with wolf on this one. You watching true blood is a form of rape fantasy indulgence in itself. I mean all the love interest have used and abused women including killing them. Any good vampire has killed/used many women. The theme song of the show has the following lyrics; I don't know who you think you are But before the night is through I wanna do bad things with you …I don't know what you've done to me But I know this much is true I wanna do bad things with you I think women just have certain romantic notions. I'm not saying women want to be raped.
ShannonMI Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I’m kinda with wolf on this one. You watching true blood is a form of rape fantasy indulgence in itself. I mean all the love interest have used and abused women including killing them. Any good vampire has killed/used many women. The theme song of the show has the following lyrics; I don't know who you think you are But before the night is through I wanna do bad things with you …I don't know what you've done to me But I know this much is true I wanna do bad things with you I think women just have certain romantic notions. I'm not saying women want to be raped. There are very few rape scenes in True Blood. The only one that comes to mind is Franklin raping Tara. I wasn't sitting there salivating and rubbing myself as I watched it. I found it disturbing. And the vampires on the show don't rape anyone. At least not that I can think of. All the fang bangers are having sex of their own free will.
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