If you want to up your dates, stay in shape, its never too late

[johan]

And the ones who don't want to improve are complaining about "society."

 

Excuses, excuses.

 

Well, to be fair, society is pretty judgmental about these things. I don't think people want to be judged for these kinds of choices. While keeping fit and taking care of yourself can be a really positive thing in your life, it isn't morally superior to do it. Some people act as if being physically unattractive is some kind of character defect.

 

I also don't think unfit people should ever blame society for the health problems their chosen lifestyle leads to. But I think very few of them do.

[Lonely Ronin]

Lift heavy, compound movements & take a multi-vitamin.

 

I'd recommend against this, because when I do it I blow up like a damn balloon, and loose range of motion. Not being able to scratch the back of your neck because your muscles are in the way, is not cool. I never go lower than 3 sets of 12. When I get to 6 sets of 12 I drop back down to 3 sets of 12, and up the weight. I have found this builds decent mass, but a lot of tone.

Edited December 17, 2011 by Lonely Ronin

[irc333]

There are people who do work out and still struggle in the dating realm <shrug>

 

 

 

Seriously. Hit the gym and get sexy. Dont let the holiday pounds creep up.

 

I know its hard for some people and I cant relate since I have a wicked high metabolism and put on muscle easily...but still give it a shot.

 

35 minutes a day is all you need. Alternate cardio and strength training day.

 

Age is no excuse. Look at this brother. 60 years old with the body of guys my age. Im 25

 

 

And look at this woman. 74...better body then many women in their 20s and 30s. She started working out in her 50s!

 

 

Take care of yourself guys. There is hardly EVER an excuse not to.

 

Get sexy, Get dates. Simple

 

 

P.S. - Black dont crack lol I love how young our skin can make us look lol

[phineas]

I'd recommend against this, because when I do it I blow up like a damn balloon, and loose range of motion. Not being able to scratch the back of your neck because your muscles are in the way, is not cool. I never go lower than 3 sets of 12. When I get to 6 sets of 12 I drop back down to 3 sets of 12, and up the weight. I have found this builds decent mass, but a lot of tone.

 

Don't listen to this man.

 

I've yet to meet a semi-pro bodybuilder who can't scratch the back of his neck because he built soo much muscle.

 

Go talk to someone about your poor range of motion because what you are describing isn't normal at all.

 

Unless you are 3ft tall & have stubs for arms.

[kaylan]

If most people would cut their portion sizes and stop going back to the buffet table for seconds and thirds, they wouldn't have these problems.

Haha true. Btw FC, just how fit are ya? I enjoy talking to other active folks.

 

 

I have a simple diet, I only eat when I'm hungry and I stop before I feel full. This means I usually eat 2 meals a day, some times only one.

 

The gym is good for the body and the mind. After a bad day at work, I find the gym is best place to get the stress & aggression out.

This.

 

And I eat 6 meals a day. I hate to because since I started working out, my body needs more fuel and is always hungry every few hours. Plus I have a wicked high metabolism, so I need lots of calories to gain weight and keep muscle or else id be super skinny.

 

People who spend lots of time getting their body in prime/sexy shape are not doing it for a LTR/monogamous relationship but for lots of hook-ups/attention.

 

Something to think about when you see yourself looking at the sexy bodies.

Haters gon' hate.

 

For some people that may part of why they stay in shape. Who doesnt want to look sexy? If im single I want to look sexy for all the single gals out there. If im in a relationship I want to look sexy for my baby cus shes gonna be staying sexy for me too.

 

But for many of us we like being disease free into old age, and being able to run around and feel young. How great would it be to feel like those too older folks in my OP feel at their age. And you will live a lot longer too.

 

You tube Sal Cappi...dudes 89 and can still do pushups and pull ups.

 

AND FYI (in response to your essay post on page 1) Most Americans are out of shape and overweight, so of course a lot of people have body image issues. STOP EATING AND WORK OUT THEN....it just seems like you are advocating an unhealthy lifestyle which plays into American laziness.

Edited December 18, 2011 by kaylan

[kaylan]

I call BS with that guy .

 

I used to be about as built as that guy and you can't get that way just by doing half-assed body weight exercises at the park. IF you're in your 60's (I doubt that's true for him) and look like that, you're probably (definitely), on roids.

 

Don't get me wrong, body weight exercises are great for getting toned, but the only way to get as big as that guy is with freeweights. That guy works out atleast 3 hours on his lifting days and at the very least taking numerous supplements, someone's probably paying him for that.

 

Are you sure he's in his 60's, or is he in his late 30's/early 40's and look really beaten up?

Half assed? Wow you know nothing about strength training if you say that. Plus the dude has good genetics and does hundreds of reps to boot.

 

Why is some 60 year old on roids? And lives in the projects? Are you even from NYC? Because I am, and I have talked to some of these calisthenics kingz, and they are legit and know their sh!!t. Quit hating.

 

Go to bodybuilding.com and do some research. Strength training is strength training. Your body does NOT know the difference between bodyweight and free weights. The only difference is you need more reps on body weight exercises to make the same gains on free weights. Free weight may save time, but you CAN get the same results with body weight.

 

Are you gonna say the 74 year old woman is lying next? When she enters competitions for body building and is known by many in the community. And she eats ALL NATURAL....no supplements. So its all very possible. Quit spreading misinformation and learn your sh!!t

 

 

Do a freaking youtube search. Theres plenty of super fit older folks. Or look at the bodyspace profiles on bodybuilding..com. Some of those 55+ folks are super in shape WITHOUT roids. That site doesnt even advocate roid use, nor do most of its community. The dudes on the forum always advocate hard work and eating clean.

Tom81

 

If you have a high metabolism, running/cardio is the worst possible thing you can do. Cease doing it immediatly.

 

A lot of times btw, we don't have high metabolism, we just don't eat even when it seems like we do. When I first started working out I used to think I had a high metabolism, then I started writing down my caloric intake and I was actually eating around 16-1700 calories a day (very low if you're working out)

 

If anyone wants me to write them a workout routine feel free to PM me

Dont do cardio!? Wtf are you talking about. Cardio burns fat and is good for the heart. I have a very high metabolism too, but to get cut up you NEED cardio or else youll be skinny fat.

 

Again...learn you stuff bro and stop giving wrong advice.

Edited December 18, 2011 by kaylan

[kaylan]

Look up Intermitant Fasting.

 

It blows the 5-6 meals bro-science off the map.

 

It's calories in vs calories out for weight loss period.

 

Eat more protein, get healthy fats, (carbs are not needed but it sucks to go with too few) & lift weights to preserve muscle or you will wind up skinny fat.

 

So much bad info in this thread.

 

If you want to build muscle you need enough cals, protein & CARBS along with healthy fats.

 

Lift heavy, compound movements & take a multi-vitamin.

 

Also it takes time.

 

Cosign....so much truth in this post. Strong post is strong.

[Wolf18]

Half assed? Wow you know nothing about strength training if you say that. Plus the dude has good genetics and does hundreds of reps to boot.

 

Why is some 60 year old on roids? And lives in the projects? Are you even from NYC? Because I am, and I have talked to some of these calisthenics kingz, and they are legit and know their sh!!t. Quit hating.[/Quote]

 

 

After a certain age, your body cannot maintain that sort of build with massive amounts of supplements/steroids, or exceptional, and I mean really exceptional, genetics. Even WITH steroids, a guy in his 60's that doesn't have VERY good genetics won't look like that dude at 60 . If you don't believe me, look at a picture of Arnold shirtless today, and that guy is as dedicated to weight lifting as he ever was.

 

Callithenics Kingz pay guys like that because they want you to buy their products, that doesn't mean you can get that huge with only callisthenics. It's like watching the ad for stupid scam contraptions like the shake-weight and saying it works because some dude whose huge is posing with it in the commercial.

 

 

Go to bodybuilding.com and do some research. Strength training is strength training. Your body does NOT know the difference between bodyweight and free weights. The only difference is you need more reps on body weight exercises to make the same gains on free weights. Free weight may save time, but you CAN get the same results with body weight.[/Quote]

 

Body weight exercises have some uses, I didn't say they didn't. In fact, I think body weight exercises are superior to build small, enduring, tough muscles. But if you want to get huge, you have to use free weights.

 

Why? It's obvious. A guy whose, say, 160 pounds, if he's doing body weight exercises he can only lift that amount. Lifting your own bodyweight is a sign of good fitness, but you better believe that the dude in that video can bench press way more than he weighs, the only way to continue improving.

 

I didn't say callisthenics had no advantages, just that free weights are needed if you want mass and you have a "fast metabolism".

 

Are you gonna say the 74 year old woman is lying next? When she enters competitions for body building and is known by many in the community. And she eats ALL NATURAL....no supplements. So its all very possible. Quit spreading misinformation and learn your sh!!t[/Quote]

 

I couldn't stomach watching the video of that woman, it was just really repulsive to the eyes. I have no opinion on that.

 

Do a freaking youtube search. Theres plenty of super fit older folks. Or look at the bodyspace profiles on bodybuilding..com. Some of those 55+ folks are super in shape WITHOUT roids. That site doesnt even advocate roid use, nor do most of its community. The dudes on the forum always advocate hard work and eating clean.[/Quote]

 

Nobody advocates steroid use anywhere, it doesn't mean it isn't happening anywhere. I know a guy who played a season in the NFL and he said atleast half of them use roids there (Kansas City Chiefs was his team , I believe), they just time it so that their bodies eliminate it when there's piss tests.

 

 

Dont do cardio!? Wtf are you talking about. Cardio burns fat and is good for the heart. I have a very high metabolism too, but to get cut up you NEED cardio or else youll be skinny fat.

 

Again...learn you stuff bro and stop giving wrong advice. [/Quote]

 

I've never done cardio and I'm not skinny fat.

 

Cardio is good if your looking for cosmetic looks like a tiny six pack or something, but it's IMO terrible for putting on mass. Most people don't eat enough to accompany both cardio and put on mass, and if you have a fast metabolism, same story.

 

If you want to be stubborn and think you're going to get huge with cardio and callisthenics, be my guest. Just don't cry when you can't curl 25 lbs.

[Art_Critic]

Scoring dates isn't always about muscles or health..

I never had any problem getting any date from any girl and I'm not a muscle head who works out 3-6 hrs a day.

 

I would agree that if you are heavy and overweight that you would lower your available dating pool of women and would improve your chances by working out.. but not all people who don't work out hrs every day are overweight and live dateless lives...

 

Many of us have a pretty decent personality, job, and other great qualities that made us datable..

 

I do however have a full gym in the basement though, treadmill, elliptical and full universal with a leg press and it all looks good...

Maybe it was just having the gym that got the girls..

Edited December 18, 2011 by Art_Critic

[kaylan]

After a certain age, your body cannot maintain that sort of build with massive amounts of supplements/steroids, or exceptional, and I mean really exceptional, genetics. Even WITH steroids, a guy in his 60's that doesn't have VERY good genetics won't look like that dude at 60 . If you don't believe me, look at a picture of Arnold shirtless today, and that guy is as dedicated to weight lifting as he ever was.

For one DO NOT group nutritional supplements with steroids. Youre first comment was that he does roids and I know for a fact that he does not. Nor do any of the Calisthenics kingz. Know your stuff.

 

Its quite possible to have his physique with a lot of hard work and the right foods/supplementation.

 

Callithenics Kingz pay guys like that because they want you to buy their products, that doesn't mean you can get that huge with only callisthenics. It's like watching the ad for stupid scam contraptions like the shake-weight and saying it works because some dude whose huge is posing with it in the commercial.

Dude look at fvvking gymnasts...They are massive despite their size with ONLY calisthenics. I knew guy who competed in college...so dont even try that.

 

How you bring the shake weight into this argument makes no sense to me. I know dudes who do nothing with free weights and use various body weight exercises at the park and are massive. Look at the book Convict Conditioning. Read it and get back to me.

 

Body weight exercises have some uses, I didn't say they didn't. In fact, I think body weight exercises are superior to build small, enduring, tough muscles. But if you want to get huge, you have to use free weights.

Again, you can get big with bodyweight exercises. You have to use variations to add difficulty over time, but its VERY possible. It just takes longer than free weights. As someone whos built a good bit of muscle with it, knows big dudes and gymnasts as well who only use body weight...I think id know.

 

Why? It's obvious. A guy whose, say, 160 pounds, if he's doing body weight exercises he can only lift that amount. Lifting your own bodyweight is a sign of good fitness, but you better believe that the dude in that video can bench press way more than he weighs, the only way to continue improving.

Again, when you push your body to muscle failure, it does NOT know the difference between body weight and free weights. Each time you push to failure, you get stronger. Wow dude...learn your stuff. Even the most knowledgeable fitness dudes ive met know this.

 

I didn't say callisthenics had no advantages, just that free weights are needed if you want mass and you have a "fast metabolism".

They are not needed unless a person wants them. Sure free weights can build muscle faster, but body weight exercises are just as capable, but usually take more reps or variations.

 

 

I couldn't stomach watching the video of that woman, it was just really repulsive to the eyes. I have no opinion on that.

Doesnt take away the fact that shes in great shape and is all natural and could pwn women half her age.

 

 

Nobody advocates steroid use anywhere, it doesn't mean it isn't happening anywhere. I know a guy who played a season in the NFL and he said atleast half of them use roids there (Kansas City Chiefs was his team , I believe), they just time it so that their bodies eliminate it when there's piss tests.

And Im telling you these two people in my OP are all natural, as well as most of the dudes on the bb..com forum.

 

Guys on gear dont really use the bb..com forum because they dont support it. Supplementation is the holy grail there.

 

 

 

I've never done cardio and I'm not skinny fat.

good for you. Some people though are not as ignorant to put down cardio as a useless workout.

 

Cardio is good if your looking for cosmetic looks like a tiny six pack or something, but it's IMO terrible for putting on mass. Most people don't eat enough to accompany both cardio and put on mass, and if you have a fast metabolism, same story.

You know nothing dude. The top bodybuilders and fitness models all use cardio. Thats what most of their cutting phase entails after they are done bulking.

 

Not to mention cardio is good for your body, primarily your heart. This is NOT ONLY about aesthetics. Cardio is great for toning and your heart. Even someone like me with a high metabolism and whos prone to easily build muscle, needs cardio. Because without cardio I wont get as cut up and toned as id like.

 

Im convinced you dont know what you are talking about. Because if you have as much experience with fitness as you try to make it seem, you must have not been that fit.

If you want to be stubborn and think you're going to get huge with cardio and callisthenics, be my guest. Just don't cry when you can't curl 25 lbs.

Lmao dude. I have been able to curl 25 lbs since I highschool and I weighed 155 back then.

 

You have no idea what you are talking about. You need to meet more athletes dude. Calisthenics is all about variation and reps, so its very very possible to get big doing it.

 

And unless you have been to local parks around NYC like I have, you cant say a thing. I see brothers and latino cats all the time who are big and powerful and they never touch weights.

 

Get some knowledge kid.

[phineas]

I didn't get into shape for the chicks.

I did it for my self.

Chicks are a side-effect.

 

And very few men actually have a 6-pack & an abundance of muscle these days. Lot's of 130lb twigs with abs walking around and power guts though.

 

Just not be over weight & you are ahead of the curve.

[kaylan]

Also go google hershel walker. Dude is renowned for his calisthenics regimen and NEVER has touch weights in his life. He doesnt do roids and also doesnt eat more than 3 meals a day.

[Wolf18]

Alright Kaylan, I will bow out of here because you know everything, because somebody on body building.com tells it to you.

 

Its common knowledge that body weight exercises build muscle endurance, while freeweights are for bulking up. I'm not going to argue this anymore. Everyone uses a different routine depending on their own genetics. If you have love handles or a gut, then yes, do cardio. But if you're already slender, doing cardio is redundant and will eat away at whatever muscle gains you make. If you want to talk about the benefits to your heart, post that in a thread about heart health.

 

And by the way, you seem to be very confused about supplements vs steroids. A large portion of supplements, particularly the ones that come and go every 6 months (due to the FDA banning or unbanning them), are just watered down steroids that are even worse for your body because they go through your liver. Taking estrogen blockers, testosterone boosters, and other things that **** with your hormones, is cheating as much as steroids and in the long run will catch up to you.

[kaylan]

Dude its not just one website. I told you numerous people I HAVE MET AND KNOW are real life examples. Again I say google Hershel Walker and look how big he is. Its all about hard work, variations and reps. Unless you have real life examples that prove otherwise, than continue to bow out.

 

Body weight exercises build muscle and endurance. I have known dudes from hi school who came back from the marines huge....and when I asked "wow u musta hit the iron huh?" Hed tell me "no, just military fitness stuff...all calisthenics" Muscle failure builds muscles...your body does NOT known the difference.

 

Doing cardio is NOT redundant, because cardio is GOOD for the heart and cardiovascular system as a whole. Are you stupid? Any athlete or model will tell you how imperative cardio is to health and toning. Cardio burns fat, and if you eat right and hit your macros, it will not burn the muscle you gained. Christ learn your stuff bro.

 

And regarding supplements...do not use them in the same setence as steroids which are illegal drugs. The FDA classes supplements as foods. The one that get banned are NOT supplements, hence they get banned and classed differently.

 

All I take are the foundational basics. Protein, Fish Oil, a Multi vitamin, and sometime creatine...All natural stuff which can be obtained through food, but given my diet and lack of time, its hard for me to cook what I should be eating.

 

So again I say this, learn your stuff. Read convict conditioning.

[johan]

If I didn't know better, I would guess that kaylan is Richard Simmons himself. He definitely knows about fitness stuff.

[kaylan]

Black Richard Simmons, fro, short shorts and all.

 

I know my stuff because fitness is important to me and I try to encourage everyone to be healthy.

 

However I dislike the spread of misinformation, the kind Wolf is spreading. It just confuses people and is not encouraging.

 

What really bothered me was the comparison of supplements and steroids. One is classed foods, and the other is classed drugs. Comparing them only pollutes the mind of newbies who are just getting into the game. And all it does is make people think whenever they see someone whos in shape, that that person must be on roids...like Wolf accused the old guy in my OP of.

 

Jeez.

[Wolf18]

Dude its not just one website. I told you numerous people I HAVE MET AND KNOW are real life examples. Again I say google Hershel Walker and look how big he is. Its all about hard work, variations and reps. Unless you have real life examples that prove otherwise, than continue to bow out.

 

Yes everyone knows the story about that guy , he would do thousands of pushups and run 10 miles every day and got huge.

 

That doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone, or that everyone has time to do 2,000 pushups a day LOL.

 

I already said about a billion times that bodyweight exercises are very good. I don't know why you keep arguing as if I'm saying they're not. My point wasn't that, my point is that for most people, body weight exercises are not enough to gain large amounts of muscle mass.

 

You know what Kaylan, I changed my mind. Forget everything I said. I am now endorsing the McDonalds and soda diet. Floyd Mayweather only eats junk food and drinks soda for hydration during his workouts, yet he's fast and in great shape. You see, one example disproves everything else that points to the contrary!

 

Body weight exercises build muscle and endurance. I have known dudes from hi school who came back from the marines huge....and when I asked "wow u musta hit the iron huh?" Hed tell me "no, just military fitness stuff...all calisthenics" Muscle failure builds muscles...your body does NOT known the difference.[/Quote]

 

Military exercises are very good, and I agree that calisthenics are the best exercise for useful, practical strength, I do them myself. But sorry, the average Marine isn't as big as the guys on your calisthenics kings videos you're trying to sell.

 

Doing cardio is NOT redundant, because cardio is GOOD for the heart and cardiovascular system as a whole. Are you stupid? Any athlete or model will tell you how imperative cardio is to health and toning. Cardio burns fat, and if you eat right and hit your macros, it will not burn the muscle you gained. Christ learn your stuff bro.[/Quote]

 

Again, I never argued any of this, you're just not reading.

 

My point wasn't that cardio isnt good for toning and everything else you're saying. My point is that cardio doesn't help in BULKING UP for guys who naturally have low body fat. It's why runners look vastly different from powerlifters.

 

And regarding supplements...do not use them in the same setence as steroids which are illegal drugs. The FDA classes supplements as foods. The one that get banned are NOT supplements, hence they get banned and classed differently. [/Quote]

 

So something is only a steroid when the FDA catches on or the company doesn't re-release it under a loophole?

 

Go online and try to buy some of these "supplements", half of them ain't even FDA approved.

 

So again I say this, learn your stuff. Read convict conditioning.[/Quote]

 

I have, and also read about Hindu exercises which are similar actually. And very useful, depending on your goals. So I don't understand what your issue is.

 

Mine is that this guy http://www.calisthenicskingz.net/images/chiseled_in_30.jpg didn't get that way with only a jumprope and doing planks on the kids' playground, and you seem to be arguing that he did .

[Wolf18]

Black Richard Simmons, fro, short shorts and all.

 

I know my stuff because fitness is important to me and I try to encourage everyone to be healthy.

 

However I dislike the spread of misinformation, the kind Wolf is spreading. It just confuses people and is not encouraging.

 

What really bothered me was the comparison of supplements and steroids. One is classed foods, and the other is classed drugs. Comparing them only pollutes the mind of newbies who are just getting into the game. And all it does is make people think whenever they see someone whos in shape, that that person must be on roids...like Wolf accused the old guy in my OP of.

 

Jeez.

 

 

Ok, I'm going to throw in the towel then black richard simmons.

 

I think you should email Arnold about your amazing discovery http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/12/23/shirtlessarnold.jpg

 

60 something year old Arnold's killing himself hours a day in his top of the line gym, when really all he needs to do is do some pull ups on the monkey bars and take fish oil supplements

[HughHardcastle]

Look up Intermitant Fasting.

 

It blows the 5-6 meals bro-science off the map.

 

It's calories in vs calories out for weight loss period.

 

So, the type of science that health and fitness experts have been preaching for decades is now suddenly "bro-science"? Yeah, ok.

 

I was 6'5, 252.5 on April 1st, 2010.

 

I was 6'5, 198.2 on September 1st, 2010.

 

I did this by eating 5-6 healthy meals per day, and working out 4-5 times per week, in various ways. I can only suggest what's worked for me.

[FitChick]

Past 50, men and women need to get their hormones balanced and supplemented. Stallone looks as good and strong as ever. I wish I could afford HGH.

[Elysian Powder]

People who spend lots of time getting their body in prime/sexy shape are not doing it for a LTR/monogamous relationship but for lots of hook-ups/attention.

 

Something to think about when you see yourself looking at the sexy bodies.

 

exactly

[kaylan]

Yes everyone knows the story about that guy , he would do thousands of pushups and run 10 miles every day and got huge.

 

That doesn't mean it's going to work for everyone, or that everyone has time to do 2,000 pushups a day LOL.

I gave you examples of numerous people who get good gains with only body weight exercises. Learn to read my posts with comprehension.

 

I already said about a billion times that bodyweight exercises are very good. I don't know why you keep arguing as if I'm saying they're not. My point wasn't that, my point is that for most people, body weight exercises are not enough to gain large amounts of muscle mass.

You originally said it wasnt possible to gain a lot of mass with only calisthenics, which isnt true. Dont conveniently switch up your statements now.

 

You know what Kaylan, I changed my mind. Forget everything I said. I am now endorsing the McDonalds and soda diet. Floyd Mayweather only eats junk food and drinks soda for hydration during his workouts, yet he's fast and in great shape. You see, one example disproves everything else that points to the contrary!

Dude, there are PLENTY of people who use only calisthenics and make great gains, so I am not using only one example. Dont even try that crap. I told you about myself, hershel walker, gymnasts and even wrestlers ive known, and also dudes who were in armed services.

 

Thats more than one example. You cant compare me saying calisthenics and cardio are enough for people, to a guy who eats mc donalds and soda during training. Your grabbing for straws hard now.

 

Military exercises are very good, and I agree that calisthenics are the best exercise for useful, practical strength, I do them myself. But sorry, the average Marine isn't as big as the guys on your calisthenics kings videos you're trying to sell.

No AVERAGE person or Marine is as big as the Calisthenic Kings. The people who decide to work hard and train a lot more than the average person or Marine is as big as them though. Have you EVER been on a military base, or been around a decent number of military folks? Because I have and some of those guys are huge and never touch weights.

 

Again, I never argued any of this, you're just not reading.

You simply change up what you say. You havent been reading what Ive said

My point wasn't that cardio isnt good for toning and everything else you're saying. My point is that cardio doesn't help in BULKING UP for guys who naturally have low body fat. It's why runners look vastly different from powerlifters.

WHAT IS THIS THREAD ABOUT? Its not about ONLY bulking. Its about getting in shape in general. Being in shape is NOT about ONLY bulking.

 

And ANY fitness buff or athlete will tell you that cardio is ESSENTIAL to your health and aesthetics. Most bodybuilders and athletes go through a cutting phase, and thats what cardio does....it cuts FAT...if you eat properly and hit your macro nutrient goals it WILL NOT eat muscle gains. LEARN YOU SH!!T

 

 

So something is only a steroid when the FDA catches on or the company doesn't re-release it under a loophole?

Dude...theres a difference between supplements and steroids. Supplements are classed as foods and can be obtained naturally through a healthy balanced diet. People use supplements because of time constraints usually. Steroids are DRUGS and cannot be obtained naturally through a healthy diet. Thats the big difference.

Go online and try to buy some of these "supplements", half of them ain't even FDA approved.

WTF kid....out of the foundational supplements I named....please tell me how they arent FDA approved...I dont take the wide assortment of crap out there. I take FDA approved food classed supplements.

 

Just because some supplements are crap, or borderline hormonal, does NOT make them steroids. And anything that ****s with hormones I dont take anyways. And just because some crap supplements slip through the cracks DOES NOT mean that there are not a lot of legit supplements out there that are good for people.

 

Stop with the spread of misinformation and bs.

 

I have, and also read about Hindu exercises which are similar actually. And very useful, depending on your goals. So I don't understand what your issue is.

 

Mine is that this guy http://www.calisthenicskingz.net/images/chiseled_in_30.jpg didn't get that way with only a jumprope and doing planks on the kids' playground, and you seem to be arguing that he did .

You cannot prove otherwise. Go talk to some gymnasts and various athletes at the gym one day. Go to a gymnast forum if you do not know any in real life and ask them about calisthenics.

 

and READ this: http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/sports_body_training_performance_interviews/all_muscle_no_iron

 

Get some knowledge dude.

[Art_Critic]

My dick is bigger than both of yours..

WHAT IS THIS THREAD ABOUT? Its not about ONLY bulking. Its about getting in shape in general. Being in shape is NOT about ONLY bulking.

 

Actually as the thread starter you should already know this.. and it seems that the thread is about getting more dates by working out..

[kaylan]

Ok, I'm going to throw in the towel then black richard simmons.

 

I think you should email Arnold about your amazing discovery http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/images/2008/12/23/shirtlessarnold.jpg

 

60 something year old Arnold's killing himself hours a day in his top of the line gym, when really all he needs to do is do some pull ups on the monkey bars and take fish oil supplements

Im really sure hes killing himself. If a 74 year old woman can be in peak condition for her age range and also look better than some women in their 20s and 30s, and also with bodybuilding competitions, whats stopping Arnold from getting in shape. I doubt with his job that hes working out the amount of time he needs to to get in better shape.

 

And her and the 60 year old dude do it all without iron and drugs.

 

How about you read the article I gave you before from an actual RENOWNED gymnast coach....whos coached stellar athletes. These guys vary in size...some are pretty damn big...while some are thinner but they are all rather built and cut. When you are done, if you can actually disprove what I have been saying from the beginning, please find me some links and do so.

 

My original statement stands: its VERY POSSIBLE to make great muscle gains through only body weight training. And cardio is always useful for health and aesthetic reasons.

 

Your original position that its not possible to get big with only calisthenics is false as I have shown you. And I have debunked your BS about cardio too.

Edited December 18, 2011 by kaylan

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Jane Fonda is in her 70s and looks fantastic. She has geared her newest DVDs to women over 50 who have never exercised but don't be fooled. She has always been fit and strong.

 

is in her sixties and could probably snap most men like twigs.

 

Same with this woman in her sixties.

 

And this woman in her sixties.

 

Women don't have to go to a gym nor look like those hideous women bodybuilders to look good. Yet if these women went on dating websites and stated their real ages, no one would contact them. If they lied and said they were in their fifties, no man would question it.