jobaba Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 ...learn to play the guitar and play in a band. It won't take you long. If you are just decent looking and a decent player, you'll have guys thinking you're hot. I happened across this video and I noticed like 1000+ guys have already commented on how hot this woman is. She's cute but wouldn't have 1000+ guys posting how hot she is if she didn't have a guitar in her hands. And to be honest, she's not even that good of a player. But I think she's HOT too. See ... men, unlike women, think it's really attractive when women can do something that they like to do. For a guy like me who plays guitar, it can elevate a woman who plays from OK to smokin' hot. For women who want to attract more men, it's something I would seriously consider...
lululucy Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 See ... men, unlike women, think it's really attractive when women can do something that they like to do. For a guy like me who plays guitar, it can elevate a woman who plays from OK to smokin' hot. I've totally found this to be true. I used to play (bass) in a band and you get a lot of attention. But even something like the fact that I play fantasy football (soccer) and hockey online has been fascinating to guys I talk to, or the fact that I go to watch the game on tv and not to socialise or get drunk, I just really like watching NHL and EPL. Guitar would probably be easier for a lot of girls to get into though.. haha
ditzchic Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Playing video games (Big COD fan) is what seems to bring all the boys to the yard for me. I'm also a pretty big football fan but most football loving guys aren't really my type so that doesn't help much....
verhrzn Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Playing video games (Big COD fan) is what seems to bring all the boys to the yard for me. Eh, I think you still gotta be baseline attractive. I'm a big gamer, and I don't get a lot of attention from guys. If I do, it's just to argue with me. :-P
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 If a woman is genuinely interested in guy stuff like sports, video games, model toy sets, comic books, etc. then I don't have a problem with it. I just have a problem with those women who pretend to be interested in guy stuff for attention. Those women annoy the living crap out of me. I'd rather deal with a woman who doesn't like a guy stuff then a woman who pretends to like guy stuff for attention. Those attention whores only seek to make the conversation revolve around them. By the way, I always felt Olivia Munn was average-looking. She gets a lot of attention for being on that guy show.
ScreamingTrees Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 So what if a girl can play guitar? As someone with more than enough experience with music, a lot of the time it comes across as half assed, like a lame attempt to pick up guys the same way a lot of guys do it. Why is it such a big deal when a woman does anything outside of a stereotypical notion of what a female should/could do? Are women supposed to only be into clothes, make-up, shopping and themselves?
ditzchic Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Eh, I think you still gotta be baseline attractive. I'm a big gamer, and I don't get a lot of attention from guys. If I do, it's just to argue with me. :-P verhrzn, I see you posting stuff like this all the time. If you're avatar is an accurate representation of what you look like there is absolutely nothing unattractive about you. Believe me, I'm not just trying to be nice. I'm quite the shallow b*tch when it comes to stuff like this (lol). But you gotta stop thinking you're a fug or something. You're not!!! You're cute!!! Once you realize that, I think you'll do fine with the fellas.
ThaWholigan Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 verhrzn, I see you posting stuff like this all the time. If you're avatar is an accurate representation of what you look like there is absolutely nothing unattractive about you. Believe me, I'm not just trying to be nice. I'm quite the shallow b*tch when it comes to stuff like this (lol). But you gotta stop thinking you're a fug or something. You're not!!! You're cute!!! Once you realize that, I think you'll do fine with the fellas. I think when you tell yourself all the time that you are ugly then you will find that you will start to emit that kind of aura. The moment I started to think of myself as better-looking, I got more compliments for my appearance!
ScreamingTrees Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 verhrzn, I see you posting stuff like this all the time. If you're avatar is an accurate representation of what you look like there is absolutely nothing unattractive about you. Believe me, I'm not just trying to be nice. I'm quite the shallow b*tch when it comes to stuff like this (lol). But you gotta stop thinking you're a fug or something. You're not!!! You're cute!!! Once you realize that, I think you'll do fine with the fellas. Don't waste your breath. I've tried talking to her once or twice in the past though I don't know her and have no reason to sugar coat, she's a lost cause. No offense, Verz, but I really suggest you talk to someone. Not saying you've got a mental disorder, but sometimes people have internal struggles that they project which turns mentally healthy people off and perpetuates their reasoning behind their struggles. God knows where things went wrong for you, but you're not going to find any answers on a message board filled with rejects of all shapes and sizes. Normal people, without your projections, would never notice the things, the "flaws" that you've got more than enough time every day to obsess over.
Wolf18 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 Screw guitar, or even baby **** like fantasy football and call of duty, for me a girls looks stop mattering when I can actually have a conversation with her. I'm not talking about dry, boring academic discussions, but just catching little references like my male friends do. This one girl I know, subsequently the only girl I've ever truly desired, is the only girl I've ever met (and probably will ever meet) who I can have a conversation about things like nietzsche or brahmanism, while I don't expect the average woman to know about anything like that , it was very impressive with this girl for that reason. I'm not the only one who noticed. While the girl is cute, she is no better than me league wise, yet she has a whole harem of orbiters, some of them better looking and rich, willing to die for 5 minutes of her time.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 So what if a girl can play guitar? As someone with more than enough experience with music, a lot of the time it comes across as half assed, like a lame attempt to pick up guys the same way a lot of guys do it. I agree. I hate it when women pretend to be interested in guy stuff only to get guys. Why is it such a big deal when a woman does anything outside of a stereotypical notion of what a female should/could do? Are women supposed to only be into clothes, make-up, shopping and themselves? It is extremely difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, make-up, and themselves. It's such a big deal to see a woman interested in guy stuff because it is rare. Sometimes women seem bored with guy stuff. However, most of the time they seem hostile to it. So seeing a woman who is interested in our stuff is a welcome relief. I know a few women in bands. When I talk to them it's refreshing to talk with a woman about the songwriting process, stage fright, tuning, musical influences, etc. When I talk to regular women in regular girl stuff the conversations tend to feel vapid. It's as if we're only talking for the sake of talking.
xpaperxcutx Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I'm musically un-talented therefore I don't think resortng to buying a guitar and pretending to shred would help. I'm sure all the attention is nice how does amassing fans equate meeting quality men? I think I have qualities that are admirable but I'm not prone to showing them openly. I would prefer for a guy to discover them himself. If this means meeting one guy at a tme I'm certainl not in a hurry.
ScreamingTrees Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I agree. I hate it when women pretend to be interested in guy stuff only to get guys. It is extremely difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, make-up, and themselves. It's such a big deal to see a woman interested in guy stuff because it is rare. Sometimes women seem bored with guy stuff. However, most of the time they seem hostile to it. So seeing a woman who is interested in our stuff is a welcome relief. I know a few women in bands. When I talk to them it's refreshing to talk with a woman about the songwriting process, stage fright, tuning, musical influences, etc. When I talk to regular women in regular girl stuff the conversations tend to feel vapid. It's as if we're only talking for the sake of talking. Do you really believe that these things are gender specific? I never thought about it that way. They're inherently genderless actions, but because society dictates something, either gender might miss out on things that they would've otherwise enjoyed had their social conditioning differed. I don't know why a male or female would be "hostile" to any of the things mentioned in this thread. It's not because they're female, it's because as an individual person they're boring as all **** and lack any real interest in life to actually care about anything other than themselves, and they usually have little foundation to go from so they stay that way for most of their lives lest they actually catch a rare glimpse of something that lights that dead fire of personal growth. Maybe there are just a lot of automatons in this life, maybe a lot of souls jumped ship early. Maybe they're no better, considering the likelihood of us being soulless. Who knows.
xpaperxcutx Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I agree. I hate it when women pretend to be interested in guy stuff only to get guys. It is extremely difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, make-up, and themselves. It's such a big deal to see a woman interested in guy stuff because it is rare. Sometimes women seem bored with guy stuff. However, most of the time they seem hostile to it. So seeing a woman who is interested in our stuff is a welcome relief. I know a few women in bands. When I talk to them it's refreshing to talk with a woman about the songwriting process, stage fright, tuning, musical influences, etc. When I talk to regular women in regular girl stuff the conversations tend to feel vapid. It's as if we're only talking for the sake of talking. I don't contest this. In fact sometimes I wonder if men actuall would prefer dating themslves , albeit just anatomically different.
ScreamingTrees Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I don't contest this. In fact sometimes I wonder if men actuall would prefer dating themslves , albeit just anatomically different. But what you're missing is that these things were not created by nature for either gender specifically, were they? What sort of things are we talking about that are "man" things, anyway? Reading? Getting into a sport? (I'm talking basketball to bowling and inbetween) Being open to different forms and styles of art? I believe that every individual, (disregarding their disposition or other disadvantages) has the choice of whichever level of personal growth and knowledge they desire. If you're just a boring person with nothing to talk about, you'd better HOPE you're attractive so you could get an equally empty counterpart. People are usually content with equals. I think that an equal is much harder to find mentally than it is physically, generally speaking.
Wolf18 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I know I would prefer to date men ,if they had vaginas. Males generally respect me and think I'm a good guy even with all my flaws. I also get random compliments on my looks ...from other men all the ****ing time Safe to say, if men had vaginas, I would never talk to a woman again .
Elysian Powder Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 I know I would prefer to date men ,if they had vaginas. Males generally respect me and think I'm a good guy even with all my flaws. I also get random compliments on my looks ...from other men all the ****ing time Safe to say, if men had vaginas, I would never talk to a woman again . The Fleshlight is a brand of male sex toys. The Fleshlight is designed and marketed by Interactive Life Forms (ILF).[1] The Fleshlight is named for the flesh-like material used in its inner sleeve, as well as the plastic case that houses the sleeve, which is fashioned to look like an oversized flashlight. The inner sleeve is available with vulva, anus, and mouth orifices. The inner sleeves come in flesh (from a variety of ethnicities) and ice/crystal (see-through) as well as a limited edition blue color for an Avatar-like look, and 48 different internal textures [2] (6 Fleshlight Original textures, 15 Fleshlight Girls textures, 10 Fleshlight Special textures, 5 Sex-In-A-Can textures, 12 Fleshjack Boys textures). The Fleshlight was designed by Steve Shubin.[3] He was granted a patent in 1998 for his invention, as a "device for discreet semen collection".[4] It was also designed to be a safer alternative to real sex, considering STD's, pregnancy, and involuntary celibacy.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleshlight
Cypress25 Posted December 15, 2011 Posted December 15, 2011 It is extremely difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, make-up, and themselves. It's such a big deal to see a woman interested in guy stuff because it is rare. Sometimes women seem bored with guy stuff. However, most of the time they seem hostile to it. So seeing a woman who is interested in our stuff is a welcome relief. Since when is playing guitar considered "guy stuff"? Oh wait, you're saying that anything other than shopping, clothes, and make-up is guy stuff. Well, that hardly seems fair. And it's not at all difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, and make-up. In fact, I never talk about those things with my female friends. I mean, we do wear clothes and make-up, but we don't sit around and discuss it. Maybe we don't talk about guy stuff like beer, football, or video games, but we talk about normal stuff: our favorite movies, books we've read, what's happening at school or work, our pets, last night's TV show, why PCs are better than Macs, our crazy family members, bad dates we've been on recently, politics and how much it all sucks, where we want to go for dinner, etc. I can't imagine having a conversation about shopping, clothes, or make-up. And I find it insulting that you think women have no other interests. And by the way, guys like to talk about themselves too. When you're dating, you should be trying to get to know each other. I get to know a guy by asking questions about him, his interests, his family, his life, etc. Which encourages him to tell me about himself, naturally. And he gets to know me by asking questions that encourage me to tell him about myself. Two people can't have a "getting to know you" conversation without talking about themselves.
somedude81 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) LOL dating tips for women? How to have more men than you can handle begging to date you. Step One: Be a woman. Step Two: Have some hobby or interest that is usually thought of as a guy thing. The end. BTW, since games and guitar were mentioned, can't get much better than Edited December 16, 2011 by somedude81
Author jobaba Posted December 16, 2011 Author Posted December 16, 2011 So what if a girl can play guitar? As someone with more than enough experience with music, a lot of the time it comes across as half assed, like a lame attempt to pick up guys the same way a lot of guys do it. Well. She has to be decent too. A hot little girl banging around on some power chords is not going to do anything. It takes a lot of persistence to be good at guitar, and that's what makes it hot. You don't see too many women that can rock a guitar like that. That's hot. The proof is in the pudding. An average looking, OLDER woman getting 1500 hits (from a mostly younger audience) saying she's hot, you're beautiful, I love you, marry me. If somebody told me something I could do to get 1500 girls telling me I was hot on a Youtube vid, I'd start doing it now. Anybody want to reconsider their ideas that men are the more shallow gender?
Wolf18 Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 The Fleshlight is a brand of male sex toys. The Fleshlight is designed and marketed by Interactive Life Forms (ILF).[1] The Fleshlight is named for the flesh-like material used in its inner sleeve, as well as the plastic case that houses the sleeve, which is fashioned to look like an oversized flashlight. The inner sleeve is available with vulva, anus, and mouth orifices. The inner sleeves come in flesh (from a variety of ethnicities) and ice/crystal (see-through) as well as a limited edition blue color for an Avatar-like look, and 48 different internal textures [2] (6 Fleshlight Original textures, 15 Fleshlight Girls textures, 10 Fleshlight Special textures, 5 Sex-In-A-Can textures, 12 Fleshjack Boys textures). The Fleshlight was designed by Steve Shubin.[3] He was granted a patent in 1998 for his invention, as a "device for discreet semen collection".[4] It was also designed to be a safer alternative to real sex, considering STD's, pregnancy, and involuntary celibacy.[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleshlight I'd rather use my stuffed animals, I need variety.
Oxy Moronovich Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 And it's not at all difficult to find a woman who is interested in something other than shopping, clothes, and make-up. In fact, I never talk about those things with my female friends. I mean, we do wear clothes and make-up, but we don't sit around and discuss it. Maybe we don't talk about guy stuff like beer, football, or video games, but we talk about normal stuff: our favorite movies, books we've read, what's happening at school or work, our pets, last night's TV show, why PCs are better than Macs, our crazy family members, bad dates we've been on recently, politics and how much it all sucks, where we want to go for dinner, etc. I can't imagine having a conversation about shopping, clothes, or make-up. And I find it insulting that you think women have no other interests. Thing is, women don't have any passion for anything aside from clothes, shopping, and make-up. Like I've said before, many women will start a hobby only to meet guys. Or they'll start a hobby only because it's the latest fad. Or they'll start it with genuine interest in learning it, but they'll lose interest quickly then drop it and move onto some new interest. Women never seem to immerse themselves in anything. Guys on the other hand immerse themselves in their hobbies. I know a guy who only seems to be interested in football. But he'll talk your head off about football and nothing else for hours. I know another guy who only seems to care about punk rock and marijuana. Talk about politics, history, or astronomy and he'll look like he's braindead. Talk about punk rock or marijuana and his eyes will light up and it's difficult to get him to shut up. It's difficult to meet a woman with a passionate interest. Women only seem to like quick entertainment: gossiping, shopping, watching TV, etc. I really don't think women discuss things amongst themselves. They just seem to gab from one subject to the next. Yes, it's rare to meet a woman with genuine interest in guy things. That's why guys are so intrigued by a woman who plays guitar. Far more guys play guitar than women. It's pretty easy to meet a male guitarist but difficult to meet a female guitarist.
verhrzn Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Thing is, women don't have any passion for anything aside from clothes, shopping, and make-up. Like I've said before, many women will start a hobby only to meet guys. Or they'll start a hobby only because it's the latest fad. Or they'll start it with genuine interest in learning it, but they'll lose interest quickly then drop it and move onto some new interest. Women never seem to immerse themselves in anything. Guys on the other hand immerse themselves in their hobbies. I know a guy who only seems to be interested in football. But he'll talk your head off about football and nothing else for hours. I know another guy who only seems to care about punk rock and marijuana. Talk about politics, history, or astronomy and he'll look like he's braindead. Talk about punk rock or marijuana and his eyes will light up and it's difficult to get him to shut up. It's difficult to meet a woman with a passionate interest. Women only seem to like quick entertainment: gossiping, shopping, watching TV, etc. I really don't think women discuss things amongst themselves. They just seem to gab from one subject to the next. Yes, it's rare to meet a woman with genuine interest in guy things. That's why guys are so intrigued by a woman who plays guitar. Far more guys play guitar than women. It's pretty easy to meet a male guitarist but difficult to meet a female guitarist. So, essentially, what you're saying is, to put another spin on it... that women will at least try something different even if it doesn't necessarily interest them, and are open to learning things that attract the opposite sex even if they decide later on it's not their thing. Guys, on the other hand, will obsessively focus on very few particular things and inflict their hobbies on everyone around them. I mean, girls learn guitar/sports, even if fleetingly, to be attractive to guys.... why don't guys ever try learning the things that seem to be attractive to women (according to you)? Oh. Because men's hobbies are "interesting" and women's hobbies are shallow and boring. And if a girl claims she likes a man's hobbies, then she better PROVE IT or else she's a poser, how dare she even TRY to be non-shallow. Ya know, I run into this attitude all the freaking time in nerd cycles. Somedude claims that all you need to be is female and like "male" things.... Except whenever I offer up that I like stereotypically male hobbies (like video games, martial arts, comic books) then all of a sudden I must prove it. I must show that my knowledge and my passion is equal to every male nerd around me, or else I'm "not a real nerd." The result? I get tired of defending myself and trying to prove myself, over and over, and I walk away. Because ya know what, I DON'T know off the top of my head what issue of the Batman comics Dick Grayson first appeared in, or what was Lord Fay's oldest son's name, or that I don't have a Platinum achievement in Skyrim yet. These things are my hobbies, but I'm not OBSESSIVE about them. So eventually, I just have to admit defeat. And then those very same guys complain about how women are so very rarely interested in "male" hobbies. Furthermore, what a conundrum you put girls into! The number one piece of advice I get back from posters about how to improve my attractiveness is to 1) wear make-up and 2) wear "good looking, sexy" clothes. Well ya know what.... a knowledge of good make-up and how to dress the female form is actually kind of involved. (Quick! My shoulders are wider than my hips, but my bust is wider than my waist... What body shape am I?) If I want to look the level of attractiveness that a lot of guys demand, I HAVE to make make-up and clothing (and shopping, because clothes shopping is actually freaking difficult) a full time hobby. It SUCKS. I hate it. That's WHY I wear simple jeans and a nice blouse. But then I'm not impressive enough looking. Seriously. You claim women are shallow, but then you demand that women be shallow in order to be attractive. You demand that women have "interesting" hobbies and not be posers, but then you chase them off if they don't meet your insanely high expectations. Guys with this attitude CAN NEVER BE SATISFIED. Edited December 16, 2011 by verhrzn
Els Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 Meh, I don't think anyone should pick up a hobby 'just' to attract the opposite sex. Your lack of passion will show through, and the more observant and intelligent guys will notice it. As a female coder and semi-competitive gamer, I have noticed that it draws attention, yes. But really, if I did not enjoy it and was just doing it for the attention, I would have quit long ago. Why would you spend tens of hours a week doing something that you don't enjoy just because it attracts the opposite sex? If you're a girl and attracting the opposite sex is your ONLY motive, those hours would be far better invested in beauty care, shopping for flattering clothes and the gym - that will still bring you more male attention than the small niche you hope to attract by faking a hobby.
Author jobaba Posted December 16, 2011 Author Posted December 16, 2011 Just play guitar? I've played about an hour or so a day for 40 years. To play like the gal in the video...perhaps 5 years minimum. 365 hours times 5 or ....we'll round it off to 2,000 hours of practice. The girl in the video (Jennifer Gamble) is a well known guitar instructor so she probably actually plays 3 or 4 hours a day. Folks have no idea the number of hours of practice most musicians have put in. Then, don't assume you'll have a band to play in...and 'if' you have a band, don't assume they can get a gig anywhere to actually play. Yea, you got me. It is true. It would take a long time to play like her. But the point is how attractive she is. Funny how the stereotype is that women flock to men who play guitar. I find that completely untrue. How many Martins do you own?
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