Eeyore79 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Till I read this post, I was going to think he'd say yes. But now, I really don't know anymore. I should point out that the push-pull tactics described in that post only work if the woman desires you. If she's totally disinterested in you then no amount of push-pull will capture her interest. Also there has to be the right amount of pull to make sure she thinks it's worth continuing, because if it's all push then she'll just get bored and walk away. In its worst form it's an asshat's trick to heighten a woman's emotions and keep her on the leash when he has no interest in committing to a relationship with her. The decent women eventually learn this and avoid the guys who use those tactics. This type of stuff only works if you have really good looks or status IMO, but it's worth a try. Yup. The woman desires you, so you maintain her interest by repeatedly feeding her breadcrumbs to make her think she has a chance, and then backing off, so she's constantly longing for more... but she has to desire the breadcrumbs in the first place otherwise she won't chase after you to get them! If she isn't interested in you then she couldn't care less whether or not you're interested in her.
Eeyore79 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Anxiety creates attraction. The more anxiety you create in a woman, the more she will lower her guard enough so that your game will be well-received. A little bit of anxiety interspersed with showing genuine interest makes her slightly nervous and emotionally charged, but still convinced that chasing you is worthwhile and things might work out in the end. A whole lot of anxiety and showing no apparent interest will just make her think you're a rude jerk and not only are you not interested in her, but you're also not a nice person.
OnyxSnowfall Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 This is such horrible advice :lmao: At least... to develop a positive long-term and successful relationship. Personally, I have NEVER become more attracted to males who have done any of what's been included in the OP... it's rather a list of turn-offs. My ex did pull 2 and 4 with me and they were both large sources of contention within our relationship... they were things I was attempting failing to overlook. Hence our dissolution
norajane Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Till I read this post, I was going to think he'd say yes. But now, I really don't know anymore. It's almost as if women need drama, or else they get bored. Women eventually learn to know - and appreciate - the huge difference between anxiety-fueled drama and love. Some would rather have the drama, and some would rather have the love.
PlumPrincess Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 In any casual relationship, one person is creating anxiety while the other person is receiving it. How simple and yet so true when you think about it! I just had a small epiphany.
Elysian Powder Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 1. Be an interesting person who can hold an interesting/intriquing conversation, so she'll think you're an intelligent, facinating, knowledgeable and deep individual. Acting like you're bored with her conversation will get you no where, except she'll be thinking you are boring yourself. A sense of humor is also an asset. 2. Compliment her on aspects of her appearance, and make sure you are doing the most you can with yours. Insulting her appearance or making her think you find other women so attractive and not her is just going to make her feel like you're a jerk and not worth spending time on. 3. Do fun/exciting things together, and show her a good time. 4. Be polite, punctual, considerate, and do what you say you'll do--call her and see her when you say you will. In other words, the opposite of what the OP is suggesting. The women I know would dump a guy that would act like the man described in the OP. Believe it or not, women want to be treated well, not treated like worthless, expendable trash. That's dating 1950. we're in our 20's/30's and we're guaranteed to spend our lives as celibates if we take advice from older women on how to treat 20's/30's women .
Janesays Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 That's dating 1950. we're in our 20's/30's and we're guaranteed to spend our lives as celibates if we take advice from older women on how to treat 20's/30's women . I don't know....I'm in my early 30's and that stuff works like a charm on me!
Elysian Powder Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Women eventually learn to know - and appreciate - the huge difference beteen anxiety-fueled drama and love. Some would rather have the drama, and some would rather have the love. you hear that, guys? Let Women ''emotionally develop'' aka, have fun from adolescence to early 30's and then enjoy the stds and emotional baggage. And look forward to 20 years of blue balls and masturbation . Fck that. Man-up. Go get laid. Don't be the sucker; become the jerk.
Elysian Powder Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I don't know....I'm in my early 30's and that stuff works like a charm on me! Aren't you special.
KathyM Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 That's dating 1950. we're in our 20's/30's and we're guaranteed to spend our lives as celibates if we take advice from older women on how to treat 20's/30's women . FYI, I wasn't even alive in 1950. So what you're saying is that young women want to be treated like trash, and that's somehow going to impress them. Your hatred towards women is showing, dear boy. And you obviously have no clue how to attract or establish a relationship with quality women of any age, hence the propensity toward prostitutes. Just so you know, the beautiful, quality women I know who are in their 20s and 30s are with men who treat them well. Some are celebate, some are not, but they all are quality women who expect to be treated well, and wouldn't tolerate anything less.
Elysian Powder Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 FYI, I wasn't even alive in 1950. So what you're saying is that young women want to be treated like trash, and hat's somehow going to impress them. Your hatred towards women is showing, dear boy. And you obviously have no clue how to attract or establish a relationship with quality women of any age, hence the propensity toward prostitutes. Just so you know, the beautiful, quality women I know who are in their 20s and 30s are with men who treat them well. Some are celebate, some are not, but they all are quality women who expect to be treated well, and wouldn't tolerate anything less. shaming language doesn't work on me, grandma, nor can you claim to know what women 20's/30's are like or want since you do not fck women, I do, which means I know what I'm talking about. hence the propensity toward prostitutes. Nah. I just have a lot of married men as friends. Your hatred towards women My contempt. I'm familiar with the ''fck around, find a sucker, marry'' and I call women on that, hence women's knee-jerk reaction to call me ''bitter''/women-hater blablaabla .
KathyM Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 shaming language doesn't work on me, grandma, nor can you claim to know what women 20's/30's are like or want since you do not fck women, I do, which means I know what I'm talking about. I'm not a grandmother, but I do have three sons probably your age (20 to 26), who have wives or girlfriends. I also have nieces, nephews your age, and between all of them, their friends, spouses, etc., I think I'm pretty clear on what younger women are looking for as well, and what works with them. Nah. I just have a lot of married men as friends. You said yourself that you partake of prostitutes. I guess that means you're not the stud you claim to be. My contempt. I'm familiar with the ''fck around, find a sucker, marry'' and I call women on that, hence women's knee-jerk reaction to call me ''bitter''/women-hater blablaabla . Don't judge all women by the few nasty ones you may come across from your twisted thinking.
Elysian Powder Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) hahahaha , I do not bang prostitutes. you've never read any post on which I claim to do so; I push for the legalization of honest sex to create a sexual outlet for average men. I'm very informed concerning prostitutes because most married men are sexually starved. I have a very abiding respect for prostitutes, having it's origin in their honesty. he few nasty ones you may come across from your twisted thinking. I'm 6'6'', fit, pretty boy, and with family money. Most women would bang me, and I've had many, many virgins, married women and other types of non-party girls buying me stuff, trying to buy sexual favors.All women react the same to an Alpha male. Don't date women, guys. Bang 'em and move on. Edited December 12, 2011 by Elysian Powder
Mme. Chaucer Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Since some of you like to polarize men vs. women so very much, just look at it this way: Really, fabulously sexy, hot women get away with playing stupid games and taking advantage of a lot of you guys, right? But if some granny, fat or ugly girl tried to pull that crap on you - you'd probably run laughing for the hills, wouldn't you? Same goes for this behavior. If the guy is fabulously attractive for whatever reason (like the Hank Moody character in the link - he is really cute, has immense sex appeal, cool clothes, drives a fab car, he's a "romantic" writer), he is going to get away with a lot of pretty nasty behavior with many women - the same women who would probably laugh if an ugly, jobless or awkward guy tried any of it on her. I think a lot of you fellows have it backwards. It's not so much that girls love douches, it's more like really attractive guys (attractive for a variety of reasons, including being good looking, rich, having a glamorous or high status job, etc.) can get away with being a douche, whereas "normal" or fugly guys cannot. And, since they're human, some of these more "gifted" guys have learned over the years (starting from their jock days in high school) to just carry on being douches. Just like some of the hot girls learned how to take advantage of guys. The idea that fawning all over a woman is unattractive is often true, but the rest of this - really bad idea, guys, to try to adopt this behavior unless it's really who you are. And if that's the case, I think you should try to better yourself as a person. In real life, outside of pick up scenes in clubs, women mostly like men who have friends, who have stuff that they're passionate about in their lives, who are truly interesting and worth spending time with - not really guys who are pretending to have those characteristics. And if the guy looks good and / or has a great deal of sex appeal, all the better.
Negative Nancy Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Make her think something is wrong... you want to put a girl in a state of insecurity where she’s thinking of her faults instead of your own. You want her to be self-conscious that she’s lacking in a quality that either you want or that other girls have. Here are four ways to implement that strategy: 1. Make her think you’re bored with her conversation or story. Look around the room when she’s rambling about some nonsense. Let out an uninspired “That’s nice” when she was expecting a stronger reaction. Tight game here is pretending you don’t hear a lot of what she says. 2. Make her think she’s not good-looking enough. When you’re with her in a night venue, point out a girl hotter than her and ask, “What do you think of that girl?” She will give her answer and then ask you if you think she’s hot. Poorly evade the question by hesitating for a few seconds and then saying something like, “Her high-heels are nice.” Tight game here is having a roaming eye on exceptionally beautiful women. 3. Make her think you’re going to flake or stand her up.Take a long time to confirm dates, almost as if it was an afterthought. Then show up 15 minutes late, enough so that she texts you asking where you are. You’re doing it right if she’s visibly annoyed by the time you arrive. Tight game here is being forgetful, busy, or putting her last in a list of things you need to do. 4. Make her think you only want to use her for sex.*Repeatedly take her to the same bar venues. Insist on “movie” nights. Gently shoot down her suggestions to do something different like a day hike or a wine festival outing. Tight game here is not wanting to be seen too much with her in public. I didn’t invent the rules of human nature. I didn’t declare that instilling insecurity in another person is the optimal way to keep their interest in you at a high level, but that’s the reality. If you like a girl, you have to do things that show you don’t like her while at the same time escalating the encounter by touching, kissing, and venue changing to your bedroom. While some of these suggestions can be relaxed on more sensual foreign women, with American girls you have to be cold and heartless in other to get the most amount of sex. Anxiety creates attraction. The more anxiety you create in a woman, the more she will lower her guard enough so that your game will be well-received. It forces her to question her value instead of yours. In any casual relationship, one person is creating anxiety while the other person is receiving it. If you’re not the one creating it, then it’s not her that’s getting gamed. http://www.rooshv.com/make-her-think-something-is-wrong you sound like you've read too much pua forums, usually they advise doing that **** and call it "negging", "push-and-pull" and "freeze out" (or whatever stupid terms they come up with). or are you just advertising your stupid website?
Negative Nancy Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 I push for the legalization of honest sex to create a sexual outlet for average men. I'm very informed concerning prostitutes because most married men are sexually starved honest sex? you mean the illusion prostitues create that they actually like the average joe enough to have sex with him when the man deep down knows she's probably repulsed by him and only lets him do her for his money? why are so many men ashamed to admit that they have been with prostitutes? because it has a certain social stigma, and rightfully so, because it shows him being capable of using women and it makes him look like a loser who can't get a woman to save his life. i would never be with a man who's ever had a prostitute.
somedude81 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Women eventually learn to know - and appreciate - the huge difference between anxiety-fueled drama and love. Some would rather have the drama, and some would rather have the love. And when does that start to happen? How long do I have to wait? I should point out that the push-pull tactics described in that post only work if the woman desires you. If she's totally disinterested in you then no amount of push-pull will capture her interest. Also there has to be the right amount of pull to make sure she thinks it's worth continuing, because if it's all push then she'll just get bored and walk away. In its worst form it's an asshat's trick to heighten a woman's emotions and keep her on the leash when he has no interest in committing to a relationship with her. The decent women eventually learn this and avoid the guys who use those tactics. Yeah, I had a feeling those tricks would never work for me. I can't get a woman to desire me in the first place. Sadly there is a lot more than to what KathyM said. 1. Be an interesting person who can hold an interesting/intriquing conversation, so she'll think you're an intelligent, facinating, knowledgeable and deep individual. Acting like you're bored with her conversation will get you no where, except she'll be thinking you are boring yourself. A sense of humor is also an asset. 2. Compliment her on aspects of her appearance, and make sure you are doing the most you can with yours. Insulting her appearance or making her think you find other women so attractive and not her is just going to make her feel like you're a jerk and not worth spending time on. 3. Do fun/exciting things together, and show her a good time. 4. Be polite, punctual, considerate, and do what you say you'll do--call her and see her when you say you will. In other words, the opposite of what the OP is suggesting. The women I know would dump a guy that would act like the man described in the OP. Believe it or not, women want to be treated well, not treated like worthless, expendable trash. Though the key is probably all in number 1. Be an interesting person who can fascinate her. That's basically what a player is right? Somebody who is exciting to her. And no, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with being intelligent and having deep conversations. Because I already have that down, as well as everything else.
somedude81 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 you hear that, guys? Let Women ''emotionally develop'' aka, have fun from adolescence to early 30's and then enjoy the stds and emotional baggage. And look forward to 20 years of blue balls and masturbation . Yeah, that part really bugs me. I just have to sit back, watch and wait. All I can do hope is that she doesn't get too screwed up while she's "learning."
KathyM Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 hahahaha , I do not bang prostitutes. you've never read any post on which I claim to do so; I push for the legalization of honest sex to create a sexual outlet for average men. I'm very informed concerning prostitutes because most married men are sexually starved. I have a very abiding respect for prostitutes, having it's origin in their honesty. I'm 6'6'', fit, pretty boy, and with family money. Most women would bang me, and I've had many, many virgins, married women and other types of non-party girls buying me stuff, trying to buy sexual favors.All women react the same to an Alpha male. Don't date women, guys. Bang 'em and move on. No prostitutes for you, huh? Could have fooled me with the way you go on about it. So you're not a whoremonger, but you are a homewrecker. Charming. Your mother must be so proud.
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