ShannonMI Posted December 9, 2011 Posted December 9, 2011 you just did. which is it that? you answered both in different posts. How did I do that? I said girls love bad boys, but I don't. HELLO!!!! Stop siting my posts. You're annoying:rolleyes:
Negative Nancy Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 Baggy pants, tattoos and especially backwards hats don't make you "bad" in any way whatsoever, if you grew up in an urban environment where this idiocy is common you'd find out quickly that they're just novelties. The authentic social nuisances and smart criminals know not to advertise it You don't know how many bad police situations I've weaseled out of simply because I don't dress in "thug" clothes. i too agree. my boyfriend likes to dress preppy and reports the same thing.
Negative Nancy Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 I seem it more today. Doesn't matter the race. If they have the baggy jeans, hat on backwards, and tatted up, starting trouble, acting like they don't give a f*** the women just swoon to them. I am not talking the fat nasty girls, I mean the hot women like you would see on tv. It just gets me every time I see it. I get my fair share but do I need to go to jail to get even more hot women? Ladies please explain this to me. I seem it more today. Doesn't matter the race. If they have the tight jeans, a nice cleavage with big t**s, and good make-up, walking in heels, acting sexy, the men just swoon to these women. I am not talking about the nerdy loser guys, I mean the hot men like you would see on tv. It just gets me every time I see it. I get my fair share but do I need to go to a plastic surgeon to get even more hot men? Gentlemen please explain this to me.
Wolf18 Posted December 11, 2011 Posted December 11, 2011 I don't get what your gripe is Nancy, you obviously have a boyfriend. A younger, "hot" boyfriend with tattoos (?), so why do you still feel like you are in perpetual compettition with other women if you've already won? I'm going to assume the OP is single, as are the many males who post these anecdotes, and while some men do let women as you described catch their attention, men as a whole throw out nets (not out of nobility, but because we have to lol) very rarely do men get tunnel vision for a "type" like women do.
Negative Nancy Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) I don't get what your gripe is Nancy, you obviously have a boyfriend. A younger, "hot" boyfriend with tattoos (?), so why do you still feel like you are in perpetual compettition with other women if you've already won? I'm going to assume the OP is single, as are the many males who post these anecdotes, and while some men do let women as you described catch their attention, men as a whole throw out nets (not out of nobility, but because we have to lol) very rarely do men get tunnel vision for a "type" like women do. aside from the fact that i was just ironically trying to show the "other side" by using the OP's exact words, because women are in the same predicament, just with different factors.... ....because men are never satisfied with one woman, they always look at other women and can never make one woman at their side feel special or like the only one. so it's men who make women feel like they constantly have to compete. women want to feel special, like they are the queen to their man, and men's constant roving eyes and talks about other women can make a woman feel like she's just a "dime a dozen". as a woman you can never feel safe in a relationship because men cheat so much or would at least if they had the chance to. tons of men on here admit that they think about banging other women even if they have a girlfriend, that they envy women cos they can have sex at any time while they cannot, and tons of men cheat. it's like one woman isn't enough for a man, so even if a woman is in a relationship, she still hasn't "won", as you put it. i mean you even say it yourself in your second sentence: men throw out nets and can be attracted to many women at the same time, while women usually are happy with one man (i am at least). Edited December 12, 2011 by Negative Nancy
OnyxSnowfall Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 aside from the fact that i was just ironically trying to show the "other side" by using the OP's exact words, because women are in the same predicament, just with different factors.... ....because men are never satisfied with one woman, they always look at other women and can never make one woman at their side feel special or like the only one. so it's men who make women feel like they constantly have to compete. women want to feel special, like they are the queen to their man, and men's constant roving eyes and talks about other women can make a woman feel like she's just a "dime a dozen". as a woman you can never feel safe in a relationship because men cheat so much or would at least if they had the chance to. tons of men on here admit that they think about banging other women even if they have a girlfriend, that they envy women cos they can have sex at any time while they cannot, and tons of men cheat. it's like one woman isn't enough for a man, so even if a woman is in a relationship, she still hasn't "won", as you put it. i mean you even say it yourself in your second sentence: men throw out nets and can be attracted to many women at the same time, while women usually are happy with one man (i am at least). This has troubled me too.......
LexiB Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I'm a "hot woman" (so I've been told) and I despise thugs. Haven't been interested in that type since I was in HS and even then it was only because I didn't know any better and hadn't yet been exposed to better. There's a lot of gray area between a guy with a back bone, who doesn't take sh*t from idiots, vs. a guy who thinks someone looking at him "the wrong way" () is cause for a gun fight. It's the people who even as adults think the two are one and the same that I avoid like the plague. Male and female, for that matter.
CocoaBrown Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I seem it more today. Doesn't matter the race. If they have the baggy jeans, hat on backwards, and tatted up, starting trouble, acting like they don't give a f*** the women just swoon to them. I am not talking the fat nasty girls, I mean the hot women like you would see on tv. It just gets me every time I see it. I get my fair share but do I need to go to jail to get even more hot women? Ladies please explain this to me. I'm not EVEN gonna give you some bull**** answer and try to say women aren't attracted to bad boys. There is something about them I will admit. I am attracted to the rough around the edges look (not so much the attitude, baggy pants and the hat backwards but tattoos....mmmm yes please!) BUT I don't personally want one in my life. I think alot of it stems from what people watch on TV. The music videos and movies show these types of characters and make it seem like that's what a "real" man is. A "real" man stabs or shoots someone for looking at him funny or at least rearranges his face. I think when a man has that you better not fuc& with me look women see that as someone who will protect them. Doesn't make sense....but it's true. But, you wouldn't want those kinds of women anyway right?
Wolf18 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 I'm going to take a lit candle to my ballsack on behalf of all men for Negative Nancy and Onyx. So your boyfriend who probably cares about you deeply (unless you wouldn't be with him...right?) doesn't tell you you're amazingly hot every five minutes, that doesn't mean you're in the same boat as a guy whose completely invisible to women and gets 1 date a year, or even worse, a guy whose 30 years old and hasn't seen a vagina since he was born! Women can get affection, sex, and even commitment at a whim, if you relaxed your standards just a tiny bit. Women cheat just as much as men or more, and everyone's eyes wander Wasn't Nancy getting all tingly for the guys in that effeminate plagiarist band Crazy Town? Talk about hypocrisy. Men throw out nets because we have to, its a numbers game for most of us. We are attracted to many different "types" of women because we have a larger sexual drive and by nature find many physical varieties of women attractive, unlike many women who think they're going to marry Ashton Kutcher one day. Do you really want to trade Negative Nancy? I haven't touched a woman in 6 months, and there's no realistic solution in sight. Countless males are in the same boat, many have it a lot worse. Have you or Onyx ever been celibate against your will? If not being complimented every second is so devestating, I can't imagine what something like that would do to your self-esteem.
Author singlelife Posted December 12, 2011 Author Posted December 12, 2011 So basically even the women with good jobs and are super hot are all screwed up? They don't count? Right. smh. They are just attracted to what they are attracted to.
Author singlelife Posted December 12, 2011 Author Posted December 12, 2011 Some of ya'll are on some bull****. smh. Women are just attracted to what they attracted to.
OnyxSnowfall Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) I'm going to take a lit candle to my ballsack on behalf of all men for Negative Nancy and Onyx. So your boyfriend who probably cares about you deeply (unless you wouldn't be with him...right?) doesn't tell you you're amazingly hot every five minutes, that doesn't mean you're in the same boat as a guy whose completely invisible to women and gets 1 date a year, or even worse, a guy whose 30 years old and hasn't seen a vagina since he was born! Women can get affection, sex, and even commitment at a whim, if you relaxed your standards just a tiny bit. Women cheat just as much as men or more, and everyone's eyes wander Wasn't Nancy getting all tingly for the guys in that effeminate plagiarist band Crazy Town? Talk about hypocrisy. Men throw out nets because we have to, its a numbers game for most of us. We are attracted to many different "types" of women because we have a larger sexual drive and by nature find many physical varieties of women attractive, unlike many women who think they're going to marry Ashton Kutcher one day. Do you really want to trade Negative Nancy? I haven't touched a woman in 6 months, and there's no realistic solution in sight. Countless males are in the same boat, many have it a lot worse. Have you or Onyx ever been celibate against your will? If not being complimented every second is so devestating, I can't imagine what something like that would do to your self-esteem. Wolfy, First and foremost: blessings be to you for the candle, your ballsack, and your offering. Lastly. At least for me... it isn't about receiving compliments. It is, however, about the roving eyes and the roving minds and wanton groins. I at least, when I am in love, only do have eyes for the one I'm in love with. Fu<k anyone who claims it's impossible, I KNOW IT IS POSSIBLE, because I've lived it ... and I am referring to this "alien phenomena" enduring over multiple *years*. What damages that love for me is that such a thing has never been reciprocated. One man has been enough for me, but I have never been enough for one man. REGARDLESS of how "attractive" I am, how many qualities I refine and acquire, how many skills I learn, how much knowledge and experience I gain, what I accomplish and strive to accomplish, my passions, good times that are shared --- what I offer in ANY area of life --- sexually, intellectually, physically, emotionally, and so on and so forth. I would probably give my soul to a man who was capable of reciprocating my absurd devotion and idea of dedication... one who also valued monogamy as highly as I do I really thought my "ex" could be capable of that........... but no, despite me apparently being way "above his league" (according to others), he too still fawned over other females and was drawn to them (and he was celibate for roughly 10 years when we met! He spoke of valuing sex etc but...........lol). I DON'T WANT TO BE WITH A MAN THAT DESIRES MULTIPLE WOMEN. I don't CARE if that means I will be alone until my life-span ends. I don't CARE how the poor men feel whom I reject, because I AM NOT ENOUGH for them anyway. Fu<k, they don't deserve my loyalty - nor my time, my energy, my "life". They DO always end up wanting to bang some other girl --- at the very least, being drawn to one and or fantasizing about a voluminous amount of them... AND I KNOW other men do the same to me --- countless married and taken men have tried making such a reality too :rolleyes::rolleyes: It just sickens me. I am so weary of the retarded amounts of corporeal ideals. I am sick of people's "priorities" --- their non-productivity, their fixations with flesh, beauty and entertainment and other innumerable trivial **** --- their lack of values and restraint. Wow okay I better shut up now, this is getting excessive =P Edited December 12, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Negative Nancy Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 (edited) I haven't touched a woman in 6 months, and there's no realistic solution in sight.i remember you posting that there used to be a time in your life when you were successful with women, so in the same way men on here would tell a fat woman to lose weight in order to increase her dating prospects, you could obviously do something about whatever it is that is holding you back now as well. and i agree with onyx. Edited December 12, 2011 by Negative Nancy
Wolf18 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 You sound like the perfect girl Onyx, warm and sensitive which is a rare trait these days. I read some of your other posts and think I would get along with you very well believe it or not. Then again you are just an internet person who knows what you're like in real life, maybe you're a nag who imagines every little thing as your boyfriend wanting to **** other girls . Maybe you're so perfect cuz you got a couple of kids and have to be Seriously though, women are no different even in this regard, and their eyes (and vaginas) wander too. I would even say I've had more opportunities with girls with boyfriends and even a few married ones, than I have with completely single women. I never had a serious/long term girlfriend before, so I wouldn't be able to tell you whether I would get bored as you say all your boyfriends, but I tend to value what I have in my life, and if I had a stable and loving female partner, especially after the hard time women have given me my entire life, I would probably turn the sleaziness down a few notches.
betterdeal Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 so it's men who make women feel like they constantly have to compete. Is that the same reasoning that a wife beater uses: "She made me hit her"? You see the dubious nature of such statements, I hope?
Wolf18 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 i remember you posting that there used to be a time in your life when you were successful with women, so in the same way men on here would tell a fat woman to lose weight in order to increase her dating prospects, you could obviously do something about whatever it is that is holding you back now as well. and i agree with onyx. Fat women =/= athletic build with more than enough muscularity, but not Hugh Jackman built males. I'm not some soft-bodied feeb, I should be more than good enough for women Unless you're going to pay me movie star money to dedicate 2-3 hours a day to body building, this suggestion is easier said than done. I got back into weight lifting not long ago because I enjoy physical activity, but I'm sorry, I'm just not into the vanity of it like I used to be. I also do manual labor and go to school so when I get home I'm both mentally and physically exhausted, I just can't will myself to do the 3 hour routines I used to have when I had a lot of leisure time in HS. Not to mention now I pay my own way, so the approximately 300 dollars worth of food and shakes you need to keep up the absurd protein levels required to look like one of the posters on your wall are simply something I can't afford at the moment. But why am I taking a defense here, how come you don't have to work out 3 hours a day to get intimate contact with the opposite sex?
Negative Nancy Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 make no mistake, women DO put in their three hours daily too...just in a different way. it's called make-up and clothing so you "visual" men deem us attractive enough.
Wolf18 Posted December 12, 2011 Posted December 12, 2011 Forget it Nancy, I can easily sympathize and feel for onyx, but not you. You remind me of all the women I've met in life who think they're a lot better than they objectively are. Sorry, you're not temporarily inconvenienced Royalty , and you don't have a birth right to a human staircase made up of Venice Beach bodybuilders. If you really do spend 3 hours every day before going out (which you do not), you do it because you want attention, not because your boyfriend forces you to in order to be attracted to you. And if he does, then he doesn't really care about you.
Woggle Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 Women are just as bad as men when it comes to cheating and the roving eye. I hate the fact that men get all the blame for this when cheating is not a gender specific issue at all. If it makes anybody feel better one woman has always been enough for me.
lino Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 aside from the fact that i was just ironically trying to show the "other side" by using the OP's exact words, because women are in the same predicament, just with different factors.... ....because men are never satisfied with one woman, they always look at other women and can never make one woman at their side feel special or like the only one. so it's men who make women feel like they constantly have to compete. women want to feel special, like they are the queen to their man, and men's constant roving eyes and talks about other women can make a woman feel like she's just a "dime a dozen". as a woman you can never feel safe in a relationship because men cheat so much or would at least if they had the chance to. tons of men on here admit that they think about banging other women even if they have a girlfriend, that they envy women cos they can have sex at any time while they cannot, and tons of men cheat. it's like one woman isn't enough for a man, so even if a woman is in a relationship, she still hasn't "won", as you put it. i mean you even say it yourself in your second sentence: men throw out nets and can be attracted to many women at the same time, while women usually are happy with one man (i am at least). This is an extremely unbiased & accurate description of how things work and doesn't sound bitter at all.
NYC-BigKat Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 I seem it more today. Doesn't matter the race. If they have the baggy jeans, hat on backwards, and tatted up, starting trouble, acting like they don't give a f*** the women just swoon to them. I am not talking the fat nasty girls, I mean the hot women like you would see on tv. It just gets me every time I see it. I get my fair share but do I need to go to jail to get even more hot women? Ladies please explain this to me. This is true story yes. My uncle is a lowlife & always has a girlfriend of a 7 or 8 & he's like a 6 with no morals & drinks alot. My cousin wont shave his face & he has 2 girlfriends with nice bodies. I'm a nice person & I always try to do the right thing & girls look for excuses not to date me but they look for reasons to be near these baddies .
betterdeal Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) So be a bad boy if you want the life the bad boys have. Women, like men, like people then can rely on, and that generally means someone who doesn't piss around pretending to be one thing when they're actually another. If you're a quiet, thoughtful, intellectual bookworm, own it. If you're an angst ridden adrenalin junkie, own it. Be it. Be you. Even bad boys can be relied on. Not for day to day chores, perhaps, but to be what they are and to deliver what they promise. Some girls (pretty, plain or ugly) will find you attractive because you stand out by not trying to stand out. If it does what it says on the tin, someone will want to take it off the shelf. In my experience, lots of pretty girls like a bit of rough because they're more fun, more genuine, less controlling, more willing to sort sh*t out, whilst the pretty boys are either vein and self-regarding or incredibly timid and unsure of who or what they are, so they spend their time living up to expectations too much: in either case they are not fully present nor engaging. Use your wits, your intelligence, your cunning and verve to full effect. P-Diddy plays to his strengths, but so does Stephen Fry who has millions of women who'd do him, and he's a 50-something gay for chrissakes! I do think it's harder for young men these days, because of mixed messages, and polarisation of character types, by advertisers and the entertainment industry, and the fact that so much entertainment is industrial nowadays. It's easy to sit and play WoW 20 hours non-stop and get absorbed by it, but it doesn't have half the benefits of playing frisbee, football, soccer, bumming around, dancing or socialising. Someone sat staring at a screen (and gnashing his teeth to stumps) is just not that good a catch for a lass. So manage your screen time, (including mobile phones) and just do other stuff that brings you into contact with people in actual reality. More exposure, more chances of success. Edited December 13, 2011 by betterdeal
OnyxSnowfall Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) You sound like the perfect girl Onyx, warm and sensitive which is a rare trait these days. I read some of your other posts and think I would get along with you very well believe it or not. Then again you are just an internet person who knows what you're like in real life, maybe you're a nag who imagines every little thing as your boyfriend wanting to **** other girls . Maybe you're so perfect cuz you got a couple of kids and have to be Seriously though, women are no different even in this regard, and their eyes (and vaginas) wander too. I would even say I've had more opportunities with girls with boyfriends and even a few married ones, than I have with completely single women. I never had a serious/long term girlfriend before, so I wouldn't be able to tell you whether I would get bored as you say all your boyfriends, but I tend to value what I have in my life, and if I had a stable and loving female partner, especially after the hard time women have given me my entire life, I would probably turn the sleaziness down a few notches. We probably would get along quite well --- I do have a soft spot for high intelligence (especially if it's in conjunction with off the wall vulgarity and the like) - I'm not perfect though, I'm nuts. Still, too bad you live in one of the nastiest parts of hell (Poor Wolfy). It probably isn't a gender thing (though I have wondered if the majority of promiscuous females are simply acting out of spite and or insecurities and are not genuinely enjoying it beyond those ends... [then again, surely there are males who are promiscuous for similar reasons...]) Most people don't seem to really know how to value what they have... it's definitely a virtue to be able to... Edited December 13, 2011 by OnyxSnowfall
Wolf18 Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 (edited) We probably would get along quite well --- I do have a soft spot for high intelligence (especially if it's in conjunction with off the wall vulgarity and the like) - I'm not perfect though, I'm nuts. Still, too bad you live in one of the nastiest parts of hell (Poor Wolfy). It probably isn't a gender thing (though I have wondered if the majority of promiscuous females are simply acting out of spite and or insecurities and are not genuinely enjoying it beyond those ends... [then again, surely there are males who are promiscuous for similar reasons...]) Most people don't seem to really know how to value what they have... it's definitely a virtue to be able to... What does it mean to be nuts? A lot of traits I hear people refer to as "nuts" I find to be noble and beautiful. A lot of "nuts" and "intense" people are really just normal people living in an era where the mutants and robots control the narrative. One man's nuts are another mans...errr um well you get my point. People don't value anything these days exactly because they're NOT "nuts" or "intense" about them. The only feelings this new sophisticated modern human understands are: 1) that feels good on my pp place, 2) I'm Hungry 3) I need my ludes and bong , the life they talk me/drug me into living isn't very satisfying Stay true ponyboy. I will, will you? Edited December 13, 2011 by Wolf18
Negative Nancy Posted December 13, 2011 Posted December 13, 2011 this post isnt by me, but it describes how i feel still dont understand this need that men have to always be looking at other women. You say you love us and we are beautiful, sexy, blah blah blah. Well how do you think we feel about all that when we catch you eye screwing another lady. I gotta give some of you props though because you have it down to a science or think you do. You chick will be in a store with you and suddenly you see a girl who catches your eye, so you hang back a little pushing the buggy with all her stuff in it. My favorite is the" I have to go the mens room" which just happens to be in the direction she is going. Maybe you will get a chance to check out her rear end. What happened to "baby your so sexy"? Apparently it isnt enough to keep your attention to stay shopping with us instead of chasing her down. I mean even if it is just to drool and you arent the kind of guy that tries to get phone numbers for later, its still wrong. Why are you with the woman your with if you cant keep your eyes on the prize? he still has the man phobia thing where he has to check out females in my presence. He does it with skill, no tripping over himself or running into poles. He even has made me at fault a few times saying that I want my hair a certain color and he was just looking at her hair picturing it on me....yeah right! My favorite in this case is "how do you know I was looking at her I could have been looking at something that just happened to be in that direction" Of course you were, her rear end. I am not at all ugly, I get plenty of guys trying to holla if you know what I mean. So I dont understand why my husband who is so inlove with me and tells me I am so hot all the time has this irresistable need to look at other womens assets. Its not a divorce matter because my love runs deeper than that. Im just not buying the "we are wired that way" logic. What are you thinking about when you see these women? More importantly what do you think they think about you when they see you are with someone and eyeballing them? Most women to tell you a secret dont like being stared at like a juicy steak. There is just no class in it. We dont enjoy the stupid comments or lame pick up lines either. They are so played out just so you know. Do you keep her image in your head so the next time you have sex with your beautiful girlfriend you can use it? Dont even try to say women do it too!!! I am here to tell you there are not enough good looking men that are worthy of that kind of looking. Sorry , just fact. Plus women dedicate to the man they love meaning no straying of any kind including checking out another man. Out in public when you do this to your women your making yourself look stupid, and your dissrespecting the female your with. If you have a family with her that is even worse. My husband checks out women when we go to the gym, and ocassionally when we are out in town and I am big enough to tell him I saw what he did and I am not happy. I wont let a man treat me that way. I am worth more than that and your women are too. It still hurts and it has made it where i dont go with him to the gym. I give it to him sometimes it isnt his fault because like a train wreck if a chick is dressed like a tramp everyone even other women are going to look. However what makes it okay for men to do this?
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