Stop crying about height...woman deal with it too!

[grkBoy]

I read only page 1 of this topic, but I can't feel sorry for the tall women.

 

Difference between a tall woman versus a short man:

 

Tall women still get guys wanting to date them.

 

 

So if you're the "taller" or "tall" woman who can't seem to get past the image of a man taller than you (even when you're wearing 4" heels), then it's your own fault you're single and hating it.

 

When you have options, you can't claim that you have it as bad as those with no options. A tall woman can still find plenty of men willing to date her, bang her, and commit to her. Only drawback is they might not be the height she wants.

 

So if women want to tell guys they're too shallow for not being into a "larger" woman, then the tall women are just as bad for not giving shorter guys a try.

[EnigmaticClarity]

When you have options, you can't claim that you have it as bad as those with no options. A tall woman can still find plenty of men willing to date her, bang her, and commit to her.

 

So can a short man. Where are you getting the idea that short men have less options than tall women? Both face prejudice from the opposite sex.

[somedude81]

Excuse me? I said in a previous post that I would happily date a 5'6" guy because he'd be 5 inches taller than me, which is perfect. I know I also said I prefer guys in the 5'7" to 5'9" range, but those are flexible guidelines. I meant I prefer guys somewhere around that range. One of my exes was 5'10" and my last ex said he was just under 5'7". I dated them anyway because I liked them and I was attracted to them. I also have a crush on a bartender friend of mine, and he's 5'5" (sadly, he has a girlfriend).

OK, so I was probably being too rigid there.

Trust me, there are plenty of women who would date someone your height.

My life experiences says otherwise...

 

 

You don't have to limit yourself to them, but you might have better luck with them. Have you ever tried hitting on a short girl? Or do you not notice them because you're so fixated on the taller girls who won't go out with you?

Of course I've hit on short girls.

 

I don't fixate on height. 95% of women have a height that I'm perfectly fine with. The only issue I have is when a girl is 5'9+ because things just start getting awkward. Thankfully, very few women are that tall. At the other end up the spectrum, are the under 5' women. They are also very rare.

 

How do you know? She might give you a chance. And even if she does turn you down, you don't know the reason. You assume it's because of your height, but you really have no idea.

I'd be lucky if I'd get chance, because I know that I'm not what she prefers. Height is a big part of physical attraction for women, and it's just not possible to get anywhere with a girl who is not attracted to me.

 

If a woman had a choice between me, and a 5'10 dude, why would she ever pick me?

He's said in another thread he prefers women right around his own height. If this is your actual preference, which height gives you more women to choose from--5' 6", or 6'?

 

Even if you assume 60% of women between 5' 4" and 5' 7" would turn him down, he's still left with FAR more options than a guy who is 6' who prefers women in the 5' 10" to 6' 1" range. I have the same preference he does, equal height--but he's overlooked the fact that his options are actually wider at his current height than if he were taller, which begs the question of what his actual motivation for greater height is.

 

The main reason I said I prefer women around my own height is because I don't really like girls that are taller than me.

 

If I was 5'10, I wouldn't prefer women that are my height, because that is stupidly self-limiting.

 

And no, my options are not wider at my current height, because the women who are turned off by my height are not options.

[Feelsgoodman]

This whole height thing is weird. Normally, you'd think that short people would be most attracted to other short people and tall people would prefer other tall people. Yet, North American women want a guy who is towering over them even when they are wearing heels? Really??

 

As a 6'2 man, there is no way I would date a woman who is a foot shorter than me (ironically enough, I often get hit on by women who fall in that category). It would be way too awkward. The shortest I'd be willing to go is 5'5 and my preference is 5'7 and up.

[EnigmaticClarity]

The main reason I said I prefer women around my own height is because I don't really like girls that are taller than me.

 

If I was 5'10, I wouldn't prefer women that are my height, because that is stupidly self-limiting.

 

And no, my options are not wider at my current height, because the women who are turned off by my height are not options.

 

You either didn't read my post, or didn't bother to actually consider the demographic population of women from 5' 4" to 5' 7" as compared to taller women. Even if you did...your height isn't your problem, the fact that you're a bottomless pit of pessimism is. Man up like Neil Strauss, learn what women want, and stop your whining.

[EnigmaticClarity]

This whole height thing is weird. Normally, you'd think that short people would be most attracted to other short people and tall people would prefer other tall people. Yet, North American women want a guy who is towering over them even when they are wearing heels? Really??

 

No, not really. It's something people are telling themselves because they find it comforting to wallow in self-pity. About 1 in 3 women at most want a guy who towers over them, and at LEAST half of those would still date a personable, confident shorter guy.

[carhill]

What about this LS'er (on left) who struggles to find a dating partner or boyfriend? She's 6'. I'd say her anecdote supports at least some aspects of the OP. Read the thread here.

 

As imperfect humans, each of us faces unique circumstances and challenges in life. Sometimes it feels sucky. Yep.

[EnigmaticClarity]

What about this LS'er (on left) who struggles to find a dating partner or boyfriend? She's 6'. I'd say her anecdote supports at least some aspects of the OP.

 

With model looks, there is no doubt she would've been hit on a dozen or two times if she was 5' 6". It's no surprise at all that men are too intimidated to hit on a 6' gorgeous girl. Aisha Tyler at 6' and Tyra Banks at 5' 10" says they had the exact same experiences in high school. That girl will get any man she wants, but she'll need the confidence to send clear signals to guys, or even better, ask them out herself.

 

I wouldn't say my girlfriend has the model face of that girl, but at 6' 1" she, too, wasn't asked out when she was young. She wasn't asked out in her 20s either--I'm her first long-term relationship--but the way she describes herself she was likely closed off to men and didn't send out many signals. She's definitely above average in the face and has a totally kickass body too.

[iris219]

What about this LS'er (on left) who struggles to find a dating partner or boyfriend? She's 6'. I'd say her anecdote supports at least some aspects of the OP. Read the thread here.

 

As imperfect humans, each of us faces unique circumstances and challenges in life. Sometimes it feels sucky. Yep.

 

That's one example and the girl's in high school. Are we really supposed to believe tall, thin, beautiful girls get overlooked for their short, chubby, less attractive friends? I'm not buying it. Tall women get lots of male attention (unless they're aloof or socially awkward), though some men see them as intimidating and might be less likely to approach.

[EnigmaticClarity]

Are we really supposed to believe tall, thin, beautiful girls get overlooked for their short, chubby, less attractive friends?

 

You can't throw other variables besides height in without losing all meaning. Gorgeous normal-sized girls get asked out--but talls ones, not so much. Same goes for average-looks tall girls, they have a harder time than girls closer to normal.

[Feelsgoodman]

That's one example and the girl's in high school. Are we really supposed to believe tall, thin, beautiful girls get overlooked for their short, chubby, less attractive friends? I'm not buying it. Tall women get lots of male attention (unless they're aloof or socially awkward), though some men see them as intimidating and might be less likely to approach.

Agreed. As long as they are not overweight, tall women get tons of attention. If tall women didn't get attention, short women would not be wearing heels in an effort to appear taller. Now, big, fat, overweight women who are also tall are a different story of course. They height only emphasizes their obesity.

 

In summary, the attractiveness scale for women goes like this:

 

1) Tall and slim

2) Short and slim

3) Short and overweight

4) Tall and overweight

[Cypress25]

Tall women still get guys wanting to date them.

 

So if you're the "taller" or "tall" woman who can't seem to get past the image of a man taller than you (even when you're wearing 4" heels), then it's your own fault you're single and hating it.

 

When you have options, you can't claim that you have it as bad as those with no options. A tall woman can still find plenty of men willing to date her, bang her, and commit to her. Only drawback is they might not be the height she wants.

 

We're talking about tall women who don't have options. The tall women that I know complain that men aren't willing to date them because they're too tall. They don't care about the man's height and they're not rejecting anyone. It's the other way around. As much as I hate being short, I do feel bad for the really tall girls who are discriminated against because of their height. Shorter guys don't want to date them, which leaves them very few options.

 

If a woman had a choice between me, and a 5'10 dude, why would she ever pick me?

 

She might pick you if she likes you better. Or if she thinks you're more attractive. Being taller doesn't automatically make a guy more attractive. You need to look at a guy's face before you decide how attractive he is. For example, who's more attractive: Michael Cera (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI3NzQwOTA4OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODkwNzAxMw@@._V1._SY314_CR10,0,214,314_.jpg) at 5'10" or Tom Cruise (http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/specials/goldenglobes/sexymen/tom_cruise.jpg) at 5'7"?

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[grkBoy]

So can a short man. Where are you getting the idea that short men have less options than tall women? Both face prejudice from the opposite sex.

 

I dunno. Must be different worlds. I've known a handful of tall women. Most of them were adamant on finding a taller man, but they all had plenty of men who thought they were "amazing" and wanted to date them.

 

I haven't seen tall women rejected by men except a few guys who honestly were shallow IMO.

 

I'm 6', but I know a girl who is around my height. I still think she's beautiful and I would have dated her if I were single and we didn't work together.

 

Again, maybe I just haven't seen what you have.

[iris219]

You can't throw other variables besides height in without losing all meaning. Gorgeous normal-sized girls get asked out--but talls ones, not so much. Same goes for average-looks tall girls, they have a harder time than girls closer to normal.

 

I don't know tall women who can't get dates (by tall I mean 5'7-6'). I guess it depends on where you grew up and your culture. Where I'm from, height in women is associated with beauty, wealth, status. Similarly, there was a story in the news not too long ago about rich, infertile couples insisting on harvesting eggs from women who were blond, Ivy League grads, and tall (at least 5'10" I believe).

 

If you grew up in a Latino or Asian community, for example, because many are statistically shorter, shorter women will be more valued.

[Cypress25]

Normally, you'd think that short people would be most attracted to other short people and tall people would prefer other tall people. Yet, North American women want a guy who is towering over them even when they are wearing heels? Really??

 

No, not really. As another poster said, that's what many people believe, but it's not the truth. Most women prefer men who are a few inches taller. That's it. Women who want men to tower over them are in the minority. My female friend is 5'7" and she prefers guys who are around 5'11" (4 inches taller than her). I'm 5'1" and I prefer guys who are around 5'7" (6 inches taller than me). This is the norm. My tall friend goes for tall guys. I'm short and I go for short guys. I wouldn't want to date a guy who's a foot taller than me, just like my 5'7" friend probably wouldn't want to date a 6'7" guy.

[carhill]

In the case of Tommy, a tall lady married him and, later, married another man shorter than herself. I'll bet she could tell stories from her younger days as a gangly redhead.

 

In the case of the referenced LS'er, how many ladies responding to this thread were still virgins at 17, not to mention, as that poster related, never having had a boyfriend or being kissed properly by a young man. Probably very few. So, for her, regardless, it's an issue. She sees her friends, like those ladies posing with her, with young men and hears about their love affairs and it bothers her. Why is it happening that way? Who knows? I opined partly due to the jailbait factor and partly due to high school boys being intimidated by her height and beauty. Is that true? Unknown. Evidently, she's dealing with it too, just in a different 'direction' than a short young male. She's an outlier to the 'norm'.

[EnigmaticClarity]

I dunno. Must be different worlds. I've known a handful of tall women. Most of them were adamant on finding a taller man, but they all had plenty of men who thought they were "amazing" and wanted to date them.

 

I haven't seen tall women rejected by men except a few guys who honestly were shallow IMO.

 

I'm 6', but I know a girl who is around my height. I still think she's beautiful and I would have dated her if I were single and we didn't work together.

 

Again, maybe I just haven't seen what you have.

 

Indeed, different worlds. Of course men don't "reject" tall women--I live in a world where at least 2 out of 3 women--maybe even 3 out of 4--wait for men to ask them out almost exclusively, therefore rejection isn't part of the formula--taller girls simply get asked out less while waiting for men to approach them. DEFINITELY different universes.

[somedude81]

You either didn't read my post, or didn't bother to actually consider the demographic population of women from 5' 4" to 5' 7" as compared to taller women.

Do you even know what you are talking about?

What about this LS'er (on left) who struggles to find a dating partner or boyfriend? She's 6'. I'd say her anecdote supports at least some aspects of the OP. Read the thread here.

 

As imperfect humans, each of us faces unique circumstances and challenges in life. Sometimes it feels sucky. Yep.

She's 17, most men her age would be intimated by a tall women.

 

When she gets a few years older it won't be as much of an issue.

 

I'd also wonder what type of men she is interested in.

We're talking about tall women who don't have options. The tall women that I know complain that men aren't willing to date them because they're too tall. They don't care about the man's height and they're not rejecting anyone. It's the other way around. As much as I hate being short, I do feel bad for the really tall girls who are discriminated against because of their height. Shorter guys don't want to date them, which leaves them very few options.

What is the longest they've been complaining about being single?

 

She might pick you if she likes you better. Or if she thinks you're more attractive. Being taller doesn't automatically make a guy more attractive. You need to look at a guy's face before you decide how attractive he is. For example, who's more attractive: Michael Cera (http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTI3NzQwOTA4OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODkwNzAxMw@@._V1._SY314_CR10,0,214,314_.jpg) at 5'10" or Tom Cruise (http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2009/specials/goldenglobes/sexymen/tom_cruise.jpg) at 5'7"?

How about actually comparing two guys who are roughly as attractive as each other, but one is 5" shorter.

 

The girl would never choose the short guy.

[Wolf18]

I would go out with a tall broad, but finding a woman who is willing to go out with a guy even 2 inches shorter is finding a needle in a haystick to say the least. I don't know where women like Cypress live that tall women are willing to go out with males of any height, because its certainly not the reality I've seen among people I know and even in my own personal experience.

 

I'm not the only one who feels this way. If you're a tall girl and you arent obese or hideous, and still not getting guys hitting on you, then make a move yourself, you'd be surprised at how many men are open to you but dont bother because they assume you will reject them for not following the much taller rule a vocal majority of women have imposed.

 

The general rule is that men are supposed to be 4-6 inches taller than women, atleast in America and Britain. Even Cypress, who claims "not to care" and be open, at 5'1 will only date guys 5'7 and up (lol). That is on the shorter side of average height. That's about as liberal as the average woman gets on this matter, so I give Cypress credit for that (she could be one of those 4'8 girls that demands 6'2 and up which is more common), but pretending the situation of a 5'6 guy is the same as a 5'10 girl is absurd.

[serial muse]

Do you even know what you are talking about?

 

She's 17, most men her age would be intimated by a tall women.

 

When she gets a few years older it won't be as much of an issue.

 

I'd also wonder what type of men she is interested in.

 

What is the longest they've been complaining about being single?

 

 

How about actually comparing two guys who are roughly as attractive as each other, but one is 5" shorter.

 

The girl would never choose the short guy.

 

OK.

 

Seriously, now. This is just getting ridiculous.

 

Honestly, it is perfectly reasonable for women to have complaints and issues about the dating world. Tall women DO have it harder than shorter women.

 

Yet, from what I've seen on this thread, even this TOTALLY REASONABLE POINT is being discounted, merely because the guys on here INSIST that NO WOMEN could POSSIBLY REALLY have dating issues.

 

Are women allowed to complain at all on loveshack anymore? Seriously??? Is there no point at which you guys are going to allow that they might have trouble in the dating world? Any time a woman says she's having difficulty on here these days, she gets told that it's because she's too picky. She's tall? Well, she's too picky. She likes geeks? Well, she's too picky. She likes short guys? Well, she's too picky...oh, and she's also LYING.

 

It is seriously enough. The OP has a legitimate point, and it would be SO NICE if people could just take what she has to say at face value and allow her to discuss it without telling her all the reasons why she's wrong, simply because she has two x chromosomes.

 

This is not logical, fellas. It's not. You're assuming that because YOU have trouble, ALL WOMEN must be dating like gangbusters, or else turning YOU away. And yet. That is NOT. LOGICAL. It is your emotionality that is getting in the way. These people have never met you, and never rejected you. Yet you are not allowing these strangers, who happen to be women, to express their own anxieties, because you insist that yours take precedence and are more anxiety-producing.

 

Well, they're not. You don't get to shut people up just because you're having your own problems. Everyone has ****ing problems. We all like to talk about them, and we will.

 

SERIOUSLY. CUT. IT. OUT.

Edited December 9, 2011 by serial muse

[Wolf18]

OK.

 

Seriously, now. This is just getting ridiculous.

 

Honestly, it is perfectly reasonable for women to have complaints and issues about the dating world. Tall women DO have it harder than shorter women.

 

Yet, from what I've seen on this thread, even this TOTALLY REASONABLE POINT is being discounted, merely because the guys on here INSIST that NO WOMEN could POSSIBLY REALLY have dating issues.

 

Are women allowed to complain at all on loveshack anymore? Seriously??? Is there no point at which you guys are going to allow that they might have trouble in the dating world? Any time a woman says she's having difficulty on here these days, she gets told that it's because she's too picky. She's tall? Well, she's too picky. She likes geeks? Well, she's too picky. She likes short guys? Well, she's too picky...oh, and she's also LYING.

 

It is seriously enough. The OP has a legitimate point, and it would be SO NICE if people could just take what she has to say at face value and allow her to discuss it without telling her all the reasons why she's wrong, simply because she has two x chromosomes.

 

SERIOUSLY. CUT. IT. OUT.

 

 

If you're a tall girl who wouldnt date a guy her height or shorter, then you indeed have no right to complain.

 

If someone's starving to death because they can't afford to eat caviar every day, then nobody's going to sympathize with you. Most of women's dating issues, unless they're really fat or have downs syndrome, are of this variety.

[somedude81]

OK.

 

Seriously, now. This is just getting ridiculous.

 

Honestly, it is perfectly reasonable for women to have complaints and issues about the dating world. Tall women DO have it harder than shorter women.

 

Yet, from what I've seen on this thread, even this TOTALLY REASONABLE POINT is being discounted, merely because the guys on here INSIST that NO WOMEN could POSSIBLY REALLY have dating issues.

 

Are women allowed to complain at all on loveshack anymore? Seriously??? Is there no point at which you guys are going to allow that they might have trouble in the dating world? Any time a woman says she's having difficulty on here these days, she gets told that it's because she's too picky. She's tall? Well, she's too picky. She likes geeks? Well, she's too picky. She likes short guys? Well, she's too picky...oh, and she's also LYING.

Going to be really blunt here.

 

Do women have a right to complain about having difficulty finding men to date?

 

No.

 

The average woman, has it about 100 times easier than the average man. I could add a few more zero's and it would still be accurate.

 

Even if tall women, have it harder than average height women, they still have it much easier then men do. I'm sorry that you are only hit on 20 times a month vs. the 50 times a month that normal girls get. Most men are lucky to get hit on once a year.

 

There are only a few reasons why women may have problems finding a man.

 

They are:

She's overweight

Too picky

Goes for players

She's too quiet and men think she's disinterested

She lives in an area with few eligible men.

 

There may be a couple more.

[Dust]

The average woman, has it about 100 times easier than the average man. I could add a few more zero's and it would still be accurate.

 

Even if tall women, have it harder than average height women, they still have it much easier then men do. I'm sorry that you are only hit on 20 times a month vs. the 50 times a month that normal girls get. Most men are lucky to get hit on once a year.

 

 

You do realize as a man you can hit on 100 attractive women in the course of one day right?!

 

I mean you go to some festivelle or party or what ever and you see 100 good looking women you can aproach and talk/flirt ask out all of them like some silly quagmire and girls will say yes.

 

vs women who don't produce testorone like we do because they have no balls and for the most part and for most women lack even the courage to walk up to and say hi and introduce themselves to a handsome stranger let a lone ask him to do something with them.

 

So yeah women get asked out more then men. But men ask out more then women... so ask girls you like out! problem solved... oh yeah you want to be a pretty girl

[ThaWholigan]

You do realize as a man you can hit on 100 attractive women in the course of one day right?!

 

I mean you go to some festivelle or party or what ever and you see 100 good looking women you can aproach and talk/flirt ask out all of them like some silly quagmire and girls will say yes.

 

vs women who don't produce testorone like we do because they have no balls and for the most part and for most women lack even the courage to walk up to and say hi and introduce themselves to a handsome stranger let a lone ask him to do something with them.

 

So yeah women get asked out more then men. But men ask out more then women... so ask girls you like out! problem solved... oh yeah you want to be a pretty girl

 

Ya, that brings us to the other problem. Approach Anxiety aka "i will be rejected every single time" syndrome

[somedude81]

You do realize as a man you can hit on 100 attractive women in the course of one day right?!

 

I mean you go to some festivelle or party or what ever and you see 100 good looking women you can aproach and talk/flirt ask out all of them like some silly quagmire and girls will say yes.

 

vs women who don't produce testorone like we do because they have no balls and for the most part and for most women lack even the courage to walk up to and say hi and introduce themselves to a handsome stranger let a lone ask him to do something with them.

 

So yeah women get asked out more then men. But men ask out more then women... so ask girls you like out! problem solved... oh yeah you want to be a pretty girl

Of course I can ask out 100 women at a party but I'd be lucky if 1 said yes. Conversely, a woman may only get hit on my 20 guys, and all she has to do is decide yes or no. And if the woman actually decides to be more aggressive, there is no limit to what she can get.